PVP Glitch. Has anyone else experienced it?

[Joncheese]

I wanted to ask on here to see if anyone else had experienced this before i put it in the Technical Section.

Yesterday i was in PVP and i was fighting a warrior, after going up against him for about 7-8 seconds he performed a Skyward Smash and FLEW AWAY. Yes i did say that..... He flew.

Later whilst on my warrior i did the same thing. Skyward Smash and Boom i flew over about half of the map. Myself and Emma also witnessed a smurf who was doing it too.... and he/she was doing it on command and would not tell us how they did it.

Before you say it, this isnt lag, i'm very aware of what lag is and my connection is 80mb. So what the hell is it? I know that others have experienced this as they have mentioned it before. Also i believe that it is shown on this video at about 1:00.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iGgBKQ0flI

I'm merely using the above video as an example as you can clearly hear them surprised at what has happened too. I am in no way suggesting that the above warrior was doing it command. I only wish i had been recording the warrior that i came up against yesterday, as he literally flew over a wall.

Any thoughts?

[falmear]

I wonder if this happens when the other person is lagging?

[Joncheese]

I wonder if this happens when the other person is lagging?

Maybe, but i dont think so. Like i said there was a smurf doing it on command and someone also told me that there was a warrior doing it on command also..... Its happening too frequently to be lag i think.

[Haligali]

There were always glitches in the ctf arena, wall jumper warriors, long shooter rogues, fireball comes from other side of the map. Even myself in season 3 just walked into the wall, dont know how, never happend again.

[Commanderkeen]

I've done what you are describing but this was in WT1-4.

[Puntus]

U can have lag with green ping , trust me ur description its a lag , yes I know sounds strange lag with green ping , but it happens , sometimes im with green ping and my avatar act like red ping, I just talked about it with one friend and he was the number 1 in ctf kills in PL , and he said me u can be lagy with green ping

[Sibayjing]

I know what you mean, I've done many times in running Jarl. But not everytime, maybe It works when you spam skill. In fact "flew away" only works when you charge or not SW and ennemy/ barrel is a little bit far away from your zone. Sometimes It also works when there is nothing near you

[kummitus]

I have also seen some warriors flying far over walls in ctf map.

[Daddyblu]

U can have lag with green ping , trust me ur description its a lag , yes I know sounds strange lag with green ping , but it happens , sometimes im with green ping and my avatar act like red ping, I just talked about it with one friend and he was the number 1 in ctf kills in PL , and he said me u can be lagy with green ping

nah its not lagg.. i got 50+ ping with 20 mbps connection there is no way in hell i would lag.

if i down load movies from Utorrent or Vuze or any torrent site it will take 5-10mins MAX.

but i saw a lot of rouge who wall hack and shoot in a place where you can damage them.. also you can screen shot them bec. they are out of the map.

warriors who wall hack and jump high... Smash has a protocol it will go jump to the enemy in range. but i saw one warrior his smash wont jump towards enemy but instead the location where he wants his warrior to be.

[Joncheese]

nah its not lagg.. i got 50+ ping with 20 mbps connection there is no way in hell i would lag.

if i down load movies from Utorrent or Vuze or any torrent site it will take 5-10mins MAX.

but i saw a lot of rouge who wall hack and shoot in a place where you can damage them.. also you can screen shot them bec. they are out of the map.

warriors who wall hack and jump high... Smash has a protocol it will go jump to the enemy in range. but i saw one warrior his smash wont jump towards enemy but instead the location where he wants his warrior to be.

This ^^^^^^

Its definitely not ping related. The rest of us were moving at normal speed with normal gameplay. Myself and Emma are sat next to each other, both with no problems.

[Daddyblu]

This ^^^^^^

Its definitely not ping related. The rest of us were moving at normal speed with normal gameplay. Myself and Emma are sat next to each other, both with no problems.

well its normal john a few players always find ways to hack the system & to cheat the system.

scammers and hackers and cheaters are all the same = they want the easy way around.

what bad about wall hack and glitch if used on a official tournament and no admin is watching.

next time i would request an admin to observed match, same with Warcraft there is an option to be observer - where you can view the players in all angle.

[smuggs]

Your ping doesn't mean there can't be lag....that's YOUR connection...the server can still lag due to the amount of players. And its possible to cause artificial lag too...thats how a lot of newer mmos get item dupes. I'm a software engineer and I can tell you right now those numbers mean NOTHING if the server is lagging or someone is causing it to lag. The only other way someone could do this is packet manipulation and its just not going to happen without patching the cyclical redundancy check inside the game...being a server sided game you're talking about patching the server and there would be logs of someone doing this.

Its lag.

[bhutkeyur]

It happened to me once in rooks nest elite. My warrior and other party member reached to the boss. I use SS and flew at start but happen only once (During Nordor expansion).
My ping was also high 500-dont know max no. (256kbps gprs connection)

[Viprogue]

I read your description and video that you have posted.

Obviously the person who was taking the video had a lag at the moment at 1:00. The reason is that, when you see the video carefully, a warrior suddenly appeared from no where and died at the same time another warrior who used sky smash and disappeared.

As many people have already commented here, this kind of glitch happens randomly due to lag or spamming skills.

@Daddyblu
if you think the opponents cheated in an official tournament against your team and you have the video to prove, why not just directly send the link to sts support team to take look. If what you are saying is correct, sts will ban those players. I think you know the truth but just muttering since you lost.

[wlsgh15]

Daddyblu l. U sounds that one of my team in tour used glitch? No way. Only ur team have complained while I fought with 4teams

[Joncheese]

Your ping doesn't mean there can't be lag....that's YOUR connection...the server can still lag due to the amount of players. And its possible to cause artificial lag too...thats how a lot of newer mmos get item dupes. I'm a software engineer and I can tell you right now those numbers mean NOTHING if the server is lagging or someone is causing it to lag. The only other way someone could do this is packet manipulation and its just not going to happen without patching the cyclical redundancy check inside the game...being a server sided game you're talking about patching the server and there would be logs of someone doing this.

Its lag.

So if its lag how was the smurf doing it on command?.... he zoned as soon as we started asking questions. Whilst lag can affect you, it is not responsible for someone doing it as and when they want to. I have also spoken to numerous people and they have confirmed it. I appreciate that lag does cause you to have mulitple issues though.

I'm not familiar with programming, but have spoken to many that are. Hence why im trying to clarify this. Thanks for your insight.



well its normal john a few players always find ways to hack the system & to cheat the system.

scammers and hackers and cheaters are all the same = they want the easy way around.

what bad about wall hack and glitch if used on a official tournament and no admin is watching.

next time i would request an admin to observed match, same with Warcraft there is an option to be observer - where you can view the players in all angle.

I totally agree.

[wlsgh15]

And also to johncheese, the tour been officially finished n this video already proved by devs. If u want a drama, please do in town. I dont wanna hear this through forum. And according to apollo team vs my team,they had many kills 2warriors. If this thing cheat/hack whatever then, how could they kill alot and protect flags.

[Joncheese]

And also to johncheese, the tour been officially finished n this video already proved by devs. If u want a drama, please do in town. I dont wanna hear this through forum. And according to apollo team vs my team,they had many kills 2warriors. If this thing cheat/hack whatever then, how could they kill alot and protect flags.



Dude what are you on about? I'm not creating drama... Re read my OP, i never asked anything about the tournament. If you have issues with someone else please take it up with them.



I'm merely using the above video as an example as you can clearly hear them surprised at what has happened too. I am in no way suggesting that the above warrior was doing it command. I only wish i had been recording the warrior that i came up against yesterday, as he literally flew over a wall.

Any thoughts?

No drama here, i'm merely looking for insight into the issue brought up.

Also Sptcuz is involved in this discussion... He knows that i am not refering to him, or the tournament...... as you say, its over with. I'm fully aware of this thank you.

Also my name is spelt without an 'H'. thanks

[wlsgh15]

The video u said example but according to daddyblu`s video its final tour video. And i am very sick of this stuff. And its not cleared well. If a warrior use cs then ss instantly fast it looks fly away. Also one more point. I have been played this game from late season1. Well m not pro but experienced. In my point of view flew away the wall is not glitch. Its literally laggy

[Alfai]

nah its not lagg.. i got 50+ ping with 20 mbps connection there is no way in hell i would lag.

if i down load movies from Utorrent or Vuze or any torrent site it will take 5-10mins MAX.

but i saw a lot of rouge who wall hack and shoot in a place where you can damage them.. also you can screen shot them bec. they are out of the map.

warriors who wall hack and jump high... Smash has a protocol it will go jump to the enemy in range. but i saw one warrior his smash wont jump towards enemy but instead the location where he wants his warrior to be.

Thought MONEY could by everything..including cheat hack victory etc *cough

On topic: i still think its ping john its getting worse now.really fedup to play

[Daddyblu]

And also to johncheese, the tour been officially finished n this video already proved by devs. If u want a drama, please do in town. I dont wanna hear this through forum. And according to apollo team vs my team,they had many kills 2warriors. If this thing cheat/hack whatever then, how could they kill alot and protect flags.

its not about the tournament its about the glitch.

[Daddyblu]

Thought MONEY could by everything..including cheat hack victory etc *cough

On topic: i still think its ping john its getting worse now.really fedup to play

THIS! *Cough please tell me where to buy this program ( cough ) name your price :D

[Joncheese]

The video u said example but according to daddyblu`s video its final tour video. And i am very sick of this stuff. And its not cleared well. If a warrior use cs then ss instantly fast it looks fly away. Also one more point. I have been played this game from late season1. Well m not pro but experienced. In my point of view flew away the wall is not glitch. Its literally laggy

Thank you for ur opinion. I'm looking for fact.

And I used that video as an example because even sprtcuz was surprised.

Again, nothing to do with the tournemant... Let's make that clear.

You may be sick of this stuff but others are looking for an answer, I don't understand your hostility tbh. What I'm actually looking for is a devs point of view, as I'm sure they will hold the answer.

Again, thank you for your opinion though.

[Cero]

There were always glitches in the ctf arena, wall jumper warriors, long shooter rogues, fireball comes from other side of the map. Even myself in season 3 just walked into the wall, dont know how, never happend again.




U can have lag with green ping , trust me ur description its a lag , yes I know sounds strange lag with green ping , but it happens , sometimes im with green ping and my avatar act like red ping, I just talked about it with one friend and he was the number 1 in ctf kills in PL , and he said me u can be lagy with green ping

This are the common thoughts of your surprise.
Sorry for those deffesive/offensive replies its just that using that video for this thread makes us(CTF champions:P) deffensive and making this thread on flame.

To others who think one of my teammate cheats during the tournament. Please use the "bug report" and send it to the devs. Only them who can varify my teammates action.

[Joncheese]

This are the common thoughts of your surprise.
Sorry for those deffesive/offensive replies its just that using that video for this thread makes it a flamebait.

To others who think one of my teammates during the tournament did some cheating Please use the "bug report" and send it to the devs. Only them who can varify my teammates action.

Cero I promise I'm not tryin to incriminate you, or anyone else for that matter. I have no issue with the tournemant, at all.

I merely uses it as a point of reference, be it accidental or not. My personal experience would suggest that something wasn't right so I'm looking for clarification. If I had recorded the PVP match I was in the other day then I would have, I just wasn't expecting it so had no reason to be.

No need to apologise, I hope you can see that this is a constructive thread that is not placing personal blame or pointing any fingers. I tried to word my post as appropriately as I could without making anyone look bad. I also promise you that I'm not accusing anyone of anything at all, especially cheating...l didn't even know there had been an issue with it.... Probably because I had been knocked out of the tournemant by then :D

Let's get off the pointing fingers subject and concentrate on the question in hand. It is a common issue, many say this to me each day. If it's ping related then that's fine, I just failed to see how it was if that person then ends up the other side of the wall. Ping or not, surely the game wouldn't allow you to travel through an area that you can't normally?

As I said, I'm not a dev or a software developer. Just a noob looking for an answer :)

:)

[gumball3000]

It's just lag, get over it, maybe ur lag is ok one second but maybe you hit ss during a huge ping spike. this has happened to me before in km3 and i flew directly to stonegrip.

[Joncheese]

It's just lag, get over it, maybe ur lag is ok one second but maybe you hit ss during a huge ping spike. this has happened to me before in km3 and i flew directly to stonegrip.

Great. But how does lag make you travel this amount of distance? Surely the programming would not allow you to take a path unspecified to the game format. When I lag I hit the skill, then that skill is performed however late my ping is (3000k = 3secs). It does not make my fireball fly into a new zone, or make my wind propel me half way up km3 corridor.

I'm just curious thats all. Nothing to 'get over'. Surely I'm allowed to ask this question?

[Viprogue]

lol. a lot of players including a software engineer are giving answers on your question. And yet, you are not accepting any of those answers and seeking for an answer that you want to hear.

It's a lag, very easy to distinguish. it can be a lag on you, that person, or a server lag.

Get over it dude :)

[Joncheese]

I am listening, just hear lag as the reason for everything nowadays. If that's that case then I accept that. I question stuff because I don't understand, that's all.




Lag..... The meaning of life and the answer to all problems game related.

Close the thread.

[gumball3000]

It is probably packets of data that fail to be semt/received. These may include player location and skill hit location.

[wlsgh15]

Sorry if i was rude in here but really got annoyed by people make our team pride down by shouting that our team been cheated.

[Joncheese]

It is probably packets of data that fail to be semt/received. These may include player location and skill hit location.

Thank you.


Sorry if i was rude in here but really got annoyed by people make our team pride down by shouting that our team been cheated.

I didn't. Never insinuated that at all bro. Didn't even know what you were taking about. Sorry.

[AIMEDSTRIKEZ]

Jon, yes i experienced it like many times. It happens when u have a slow connection or ure having lag. Your connection is slow and warrior must not be there where ure seeing him, so when ur connection gets okay it jst goes to its original spot and crosses all walls and looks like it flied haha ;)

[Delphina]

Closed at the request of the op.