Post Event: What is left to farm? Event gear crashes markets.

[Serancha]

Winterfest:

So first, I'd like to say this was a great event. Sts did a fantastic job of providing nice gear and keeping it rare enough to remain valuable. I also have to say that the portals were a brilliant move to get people interacting with each other, it was fantastic.


Now that Tarlok has flown home:

In the past it has always been that the best gear was farmable, and people could find it in elite chests as well. However, now that Architect and Shade armors are so far below the Tarlok (and Hellish, not to mention the lesser brands that also trump this season's armor), the value of elite chests is plummeting, and most special boss drops are...well..not special at all.


What to farm now:

There are 4 zones that drop weapons (Entombed Hammer, Architect Pylons, Quills and Blades). The value of these won't stay up long, since over-farming is a constant problem. And it's pretty certain there's many who have stacks of quills hoarded from the start of the season.

At the moment the only things worth hunting are the weapons mentioned above, essences and crates. This leaves a vast gap in end game PVE. Even the items dropped by Krunch and Bael II are worth nothing anymore. The items my party got tonight valued under 100K total.


What will happen next?

Without something to motivate, many people will stop hunting altogether and just sit and craft. This leaves the majority of the content wasted. There's a few people who hunt for the fun of hunting, but nobody is going to do that long if they have trouble even regaining their potion money.

I really hope STS has a plan to fix this, but it's a pretty tough situation. People paid plat to farm Tarlok for the top gear, so can't have their purchases made worthless, but something needs to be done. I can only suggest buffing Architect to Tarlok level and Shade to somewhere between Hellish and Tarlok, to at least give some reason to play out this season. Events are nice, but we need a game to play after they end.

Constructive ideas on solutions are welcomed.

[Prahasit Prahi]

I totally agree with u hardly I don't find anything to farm now

Arena:The loots almost we get suck now same problem with bael II and krunch II the drops are worthless and farming elite for hard 10-15 ending up with stupid loot sometimes is irritating

Whats left to loot atm for me is to sit idle and keep on upgrading gems until Super gems or else farm some locked crates or else the 4 elite maps Serancha said if not mearch that's it!!

Coming to PVP everyone knows how's end game PVP atm

Before I used to do Arena daily more than 10times and used to hunt Bael II and Krunch II...but now it's useless doing both of them


We need something interesting or anyone else suggest me what's interesting rather than those i thought of looting

[keikali]

I farmed the usual maps yesterday on our usual map rotations and I manage to loot a Pylon at level 36 and a EGP.

Went to CS and list, noticed that their prices have drastically dropped by half or more. Tis the life of a farmer.

[Sky_is_epicgearz]

everything was more fun when i wasnt at the level cap. once you have most pve aps everything gets duller. pvp aps arent fun because pvp isnt that fun anymore.....
i will put my thinking cap on later today and think of some blinding ideas (no guarantees though xD)

[Rare]

Archon rings
The weapons (yes, they'll drop in price, but don't they always near the end of a campaign?)

[Serancha]

Is it near the end though?

They've been busy making these big events. Usually expansions are announced 6-8 weeks ahead of time, and nothing has been mentioned about the next one yet, to my knowledge.

[Rare]

Is it near the end though?

They've been busy making these big events. Usually expansions are announced 6-8 weeks ahead of time, and nothing has been mentioned about the next one yet, to my knowledge.

Maybe "near the end" was a bad choice of words. It should have been "when a campaign is getting stale". Basically, as more and more people get these items and the market is saturated (or in this case, the items become obsolete), their value declines.

[wvhills]

aedenos is right. we see this every season. After a certain point people either stop playing because everything is stale or everyone gets the equips they need. The demand for farmable items then drops. This is why I usually spend the first part of the season farming then start pvping or stop playing once prices drop.

The main thing that concerns me is we haven't heard anything at all about new maps/level cap. I've asked 3 devs (justg, h2n, and samhayne) and not one of them will give a simple "yes" answer when asked if we'll see any more new levels. The closest thing we could get was g said "we will continue to support AL and no new legend titles are on the horizon". Supporting and updating are two completely different things. Personally, I don't think we will see any new maps or levels in AL so I doubt we have anything new to farm for quit a while.

P.S. I have the feeling we will continue to get events and special maps like the winter maps but I doubt we get new permanent maps and level caps. New items may be introduced but they'll be in our beloved crates.

[Anarchist]

Eh i saw this coming thats why i created a twink to pvp till StS will do something i barely even log on my main to farm anymore.
The best solution would be leaving things exactly the way they are now.

Creating a new map in the next expansion with better gears than tarloks that drop from mobs to substitute shuyal.

End lvl Players will go and farm in the new maps and tarloks will become a discotinued twink set till next christmas.

[Remiem]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

[Ravager]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

Thanks. We need a better name for you also. Moderator13 sounds so generic.

[Prahasit Prahi]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

Good to hear
Time to wait...n we r waiting eagerly

[Anarchist]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

\(* o*)/ - <3 MODERATOR13<3

[Solid]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

If its the double bard tokens, *sigh*

If its arcane/mythic vanities with stats, :D

[Vystirch]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

Plz PLz PLz PLz PLz PLz something to do with pets!

[Serancha]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

Thanks for the response. (Agree with Rav about your name too.)

Just as a followup:

As mentioned in some of the other posts, this is a problem as we get to a certain point in the season, (I have been here since season one, so am aware of this) but never were the main items of the season made obsolete by the mid-season point, leaving elite farming pointless.

The events have been nice but only really involve normal maps. Why do we work so hard to get mythic gear if we're just supposed to run normals? We could do that naked with a bow or a set of mythic blades. Not everyone wants to put up with the drama and hostility that is rampant in PVP now. Some people play to have fun and be cheerful, and to do that they need something that's a challenge outside the pvp arena.

[Remiem]

Thanks. We need a better name for you also. Moderator13 sounds so generic.

I get re-named soon. :) I got a generic name as a newbie but soon you all will know my true (kind of) identity!

[Anarchist]

I get re-named soon. :) I got a generic name as a newbie but soon you all will know my true (kind of) identity!

If you give us another little hint on new update content, i will suggest you a very nice name xD

[Zylx]

Pleeeeaaaaaaaaaaasseeeeeee do something with the guilds!!!! Look at Oedid's thread in the suggestions section!!!

[wvhills]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

we'll see if the big announcement is new maps/level cap or another add on. I'm leaning toward and add on but hoping I'm wrong.

[csyui]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

I wish there will be a release of new lv36 mythic ring or amulet.

[Remiem]

If you give us another little hint on new update content, i will suggest you a very nice name xD

Let's just say that something powerful is awakening in the land of Arlor and it won't be long until it comes out of the "woodwork." ;D

[TheReturn]

Times like this are tough sarancha but you can farm gems and crates still. 2k is a lot when it adds up
Keeping going up hill and don't slide down the hill you feel me

[Serancha]

Let's just say that something powerful is awakening in the land of Arlor and it won't be long until it comes out of the "woodwork." ;D

Such a tease.... We're going to have to make that a really good name.

[Anarchist]

Let's just say that something powerful is awakening in the land of Arlor and it won't be long until it comes out of the "woodwork." ;D

Fufufu i love this mod, any way its sounds like a expansion to me.

maybe a Jungle expansion(?) , Woodwork(?)


I hope you will like these:

"Modcore"
"Serpico"
"Maldrake"
"Alchemist"

Thank you xD

[Solid]

Let's just say that something powerful is awakening in the land of Arlor and it won't be long until it comes out of the "woodwork." ;D


If I understood that correctly, are you hinting at a new expansion and level cap?

QUICK SELL ALL THE MYTHICS

[bhutkeyur]

New patch cming :) Expanson - no...we have just entered shuyal.

[Anarchist]

Or maybe woodwork means just a craft.
Maybe its just a new crafting method like Vystirch own.

:S

[Serancha]

Or maybe woodwork means just a craft.
Maybe its just a new crafting method like Vystirch own.

:S

That's a sad thought - but the key word was "awakening"! That implies something alive

[Sky_is_epicgearz]

everything was more fun when i wasnt at the level cap. once you have most pve aps everything gets duller. pvp aps arent fun because pvp isnt that fun anymore.....
i will put my thinking cap on later today and think of some blinding ideas (no guarantees though xD)

Lol quoted myself :3

Well I was recently playing this game on my device, which I somehow managed to forget the name of :/ it's not so huge but the gameplay is similar to AL.
More to the point.. In pvp they have a mode called 'warlord battle'. It's very fun in order to win you have to earn the most points in the battle and the best way to do so is to become the warlord in that match as much times as possible.
At the start of the battle there is around 6 players, one of which starts as the warlord. The warlord basically is a beefed up, super-sized version of your character and it will take the rest of the players to defeat him. The player that lands the killing blow on the warlord will become the new warlord. A kill result is a given number of points and a kill assist will lead to a given number of points but will be less points than a kill. Around the playing arena players can find special power ups that will give you an edge in defeating the warlord, however the the warlord cannot use power ups since he is already super strengthened. The player that earns the most points at the end of the time wins the game. The use of points will determine which players are assigned to which games. Players with similar points scores will be grouped into a match. This eliminates players with arcane/mythic going against a non-mythic player.

There are bunch of reasons why I don't think it would work on a game like AL but I'm just putting it out there just in case...... :3

[conradev]

Let's just say that something powerful is awakening in the land of Arlor and it won't be long until it comes out of the "woodwork." ;D

So if I understand you correctly, you're saying that Pinnochio is the new expansion boss, and we have to target his strings and cut him down before he enrages to become a "real boy".

Galaxy Note 3

[Z]

Im guess that his hint was more like 2 hints, one with crafting and another one was posibly a new map

[Cleox]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.
Yay! Thanks about it. Good to hear. And yep, time to wait for it! & Hmm Im curious about your real identity now :o !

[Remiem]

So if I understand you correctly, you're saying that Pinnochio is the new expansion boss, and we have to target his strings and cut him down before he enrages to become a "real boy".

Galaxy Note 3

You are...not even close. But thank you for making me laugh out loud. Best guess.

[Kakashis]

I wonr deny it. The architect armors are all super hard to sell now. Weapons are worth farming, but theyre rare in drops and their price is far from being what they used to be. Overall I see that this expansion is slowly coming to an end and we all need something to freshen the interest. Would really be awesome if the current mythics could last another expansion though.

[Morholt]

Elite golds have dropped in price, but I believe it is because of a diffferent reason: nobody chose to open many elite golds because lockeds had mythic eggs & whim added to the already existing arcane pets in them. It was a month of being tempted to open lockeds instead of elite golds. Meanwhile, MANY people were farming elite Shuyal & Nordr to get portals to spawn almost guaranteed. With so many people farming elite maps more heavily and a month of little interest in elite golds due to the more attractive lockeds, the market is currently over saturated with elite golds. And currently, everyone is trying to have the cheapest elite golds for sale.

I've been holding about 12 elite golds over the last week because I know the price will rebound once the excess is bought up.



Also, hasn't it already been said that the next expansion will have a more pet involved storyline? Meaning they are already working on things?

[Zlolouux]

so if i understand you correctly, you're saying that pinnochio is the new expansion boss, and we have to target his strings and cut him down before he enrages to become a "real boy".

Galaxy note 3


lmao !!! <:

[smuggs]

I can't chime in on the whole not being worth it to farm those architect items considering I've yet to break 1m and even an extra 10k to me seems worth it if it means I'm closer to my goals.

I will however say that I do like the pinnochio idea...made me chuckle a little.

[becky_xil]

Quick.. new lvl exp.. sell mythic weap now before ita to late.. buying any mythic lv 36 10m each

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[BudakGemuk]

I don't want to give away anything, but I'll tell you guys that we do have some big things coming up very soon. :) Keep an eye out for a big announcement this or next week.

Mmm we love this, please keep the game entertaining for us and a big thank you to STG staffs for all ur hard work!

[MetalForce]

Excited for some new content, the game really needs it. I hit level cap duri g double xp weekend early december. The halloween, then winter content helped me increase my likelyhood of getting good drops to sell or wear, and at the end of winter I'm set with tarlok potency, devour bow, tarlok amulet and night ocean ring. (I'm a rogue obviously)

But now that winter has ended, what to do? Sold my hoardings right before event ended at premium price, but nothing to farm for besides locked. Invested heavily in vanities for a cash crop during next expansion, but can't afford mythic and anything else I would find doesn't compare with my tarlok gear.

So, I would thank sts for these last 2 wonderful holidays, but now that tarlok is out (and owned) what to do? I'm hoping this next patch will give us something to play for

[katish]

I get re-named soon. :) I got a generic name as a newbie but soon you all will know my true (kind of) identity!

Maybe he stops being a newbie when he reaches 100 posts!

get chatty :P

[Pandorix]

New things in game -> platinum users will enjoy

Why dont just make maps (instances) with hard bosses that drops myth/arcane eggs and items even with 1% drop chance? I understand sts need to make money to keep game alive,but its not fair for make diference betwen plats n nonplats users...if some one have money to spend on game and don't wana farm he can buy plats n open locks..
Many ppl can't aford to buy plats and get myth/arcane stuff and we all know its inposible to pvp without it. Just make some balalance so we can all have atlest close same equip or game will die slowy...

Sry guys for bad english :-)

[Serancha]

Elite Bard's tales!! Make it take a decent effort to do it each time, and maybe you get a tiny chance at...... a vanity weapon??!!!?? *drool*

[becky_xil]

New things in game -> platinum users will enjoy

Why dont just make maps (instances) with hard bosses that drops myth/arcane eggs and items even with 1% drop chance? I understand sts need to make money to keep game alive,but its not fair for make diference betwen plats n nonplats users...if some one have money to spend on game and don't wana farm he can buy plats n open locks..
Many ppl can't aford to buy plats and get myth/arcane stuff and we all know its inposible to pvp without it. Just make some balalance so we can all have atlest close same equip or game will die slowy...

Sry guys for bad english :-)

Farm locked, elite and stuff.. I spend almost 2month on farming.. and now im ready for pvp.. that the sacrifice of the farmer like me.. but it worth it.. all u need is lepre, good guild and self confidence. Im enjoying pvp now :)

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[Energizeric]

First, let me comment on the original thread in this post....

Yes, everything you say is correct. However, if they were to go ahead and release a new expansion now, not only would the architect gear become worthless, but the new Tarlok, Wintermancer, Frozen and Hellish gear would all become worthless as everyone would dump their gear for the new level 40/41 gear. While that is inevitable when a new expansion comes, it would seem too soon to cause this tumble immediately after the even ends. Who wants to farm for event gear only to have it be made worthless a week or two later?

The solution for the economy is to keep the cap at 36 for at least a couple more months and let people use the new (and discontinued) gear. Then it will actually go up in price as more players decide to buy a set and merchants gradually sell off their inventory. This in turn will cause the architect gear to rebound a little as well.

The problem with this solution is that players will become bored with the game. So we need something new, but at the same time we still need the latest event gear to be relevant. So what is the solution?

The answer is something I posted a few months back...

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?114281

Not necessarily my exact idea, but some sort of quest to add excitement to the game. For those of you who played Pocket Legends, you remember how the ichor quest was a prequel to the Blackstone Mountain expansion? They should do something similar with the next expansion. Have some sort of prequel which keeps the cap at 36 for now, but also introduces some new kind of time consuming quest that will keep us busy for the next two months. Make the quest hard, something on the order of difficulty of elite dungeons -- that way people will need good gear, and thus the event gear and architect gear will be in demand.

I'm guessing we are going to see something of this type soon. Just as we had the Shuyal Arena added before the Shuyal expansion, I think we will soon find out about where the next expansion is headed.....

[bhutkeyur]

I am ready for new expansion - dont wanna sit and get bored anyway. Always want more content.

[Doomreaper]

Considering how close I am to 36, I'm hoping it won't be an extended Lvl cap before I can get that nice purple flag :)

[kjed]

i totally agree with you.

-NUFFSAID

[Serancha]

@ Energizeric I actually wasn't saying an expansion is needed.

I guess the biggest thing I'd like to see is a (non pvp) challenge suited to all this fantastic gear we have earned. Otherwise mythics will go obsolete in the next expansion and then what was the point? When the events only send us to normal maps as the most efficient way of farming, and the special drops from the bosses are no longer something people want to find, a new incentive needs to be given to farm elites. I would hate to see the game turning into just a bunch of people merching and doing pvp for months. There's so much more to it than that.

As we head into the later stages of the season, if there were a few goodies put in puzzleboxes to make them desirable again, and something to keep elite players challenged (yes, elite quests are a great idea), it may help prevent the huge decline of players we saw at the end of season 4.

Someone posted that I shouldn't worry and can still farm crates. Well, this isn't about me, or even about money. People need goals and excitement to stick around, and having only 4 runs that are worth farming is just not enough for however many thousand people are here. I have more than enough to do, and am enjoying every bit of it. But if the player base gets bored and lacks incentive, they either leave or start on dramas, fights and other annoyances, and then the fun is lost.

The devs of STS are obviously aware of all this, and it will be exciting to see the solution they have prepared. But in the meantime it can be fun to toss ideas around and see what comes up. This has been a vastly entertaining thread to read. Thanks to everyone, especially our nameless moderator for helping make a great discussion.

[Haligali]

Need more tombs, for locked farming also, bring back the lower hauntlet pls.

[Serancha]

Elite tombs :)

[aarrgggggg]

MAPS MAPS MAPS who says we need a lvl increase to get new maps permanently.
Not I
This game seems to be based to much on the gear and not enough on the maps we play, which is the reason we play in the first place
Midas touches this idea
+10000000

[becky_xil]

If new lvl cap sound nice.. soon or later all player will hv the same build set and the same equ set.. love it.. nothing unique in game soon.. fact

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[xXz21]

i really don't like new expansions with only lv cap and 4news maps..

why people like this? justlv up and come back to the boring after 1-2 weeks..

i think theys should back the old Bael II.

why sts create a ''event'' and drops bad items? i see the last event and all events all the stuff are not good. a normal item legendary or epic have better stats.

[Fauksuras]

If they diversified items more, the market wouldn't crash over a single new item.

Granted mythic /arcane items will (and should) always be the best and should only come in one "flavor" if you will


But many legendary items are too...useless for lack of a better word.
Like you can have architect blades of brutality, riposte and potency (correct me on this) i dont see why brutality must be the best flat out, can't the others have their unique perks so somebody farming doesn't feel let down if they get them.

For example maybe have one trump the dmg, while another will give slightly less dmg but more armor, health, other will give more dps and crit.

Not high enough differences to make one best overall (since every seems to always think dmg = everything[which is why so many tanks are less than capable]) but enough to make somebody think "i think the brutality might not be best for this situation/my playstyle"

We have loadouts for different equipment combinations, give people reason to use them! That way, not all, but at least way more pink items will be worth farming and not just doing elite in the hopes of getting the flavor that's worth the big money (sometimes easily several times more than one of the "lesser" types).

In the past event they could have made tarlok items for example comparable to top pinks and made the different types worth it.

Look up Tarlok Plate of Grace lvl 36.
Not sure value now but during event it was deplorable, definitely not deserving of a item that came exclusively from Imbued Golden Chests.

[fritzce]

i think the only FLAW with the winter event is that they made "TARLOK'S LAIR" a farmable place by having people pay a measly 5 plats.

[hakoom7]

Let's just say that something powerful is awakening in the land of Arlor and it won't be long until it comes out of the "woodwork." ;D

Thats even more confusing lol, the name arlor making me guess its an expansion, but the end of ur line making me go like whaaaa! Its messing with my brain so hard

[Darkrai]

Maybe the trees come too life and the last boss called evil tree of arlor trows acid and calls mini trees too kill us i like this idea:-)

[Anarchist]

Maybe the trees come too life and the last boss called evil tree of arlor trows acid and calls mini trees too kill us i like this idea:-)

Three assassins love that.

[Desperoto]

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[VenomsChaos]

If they diversified items more, the market wouldn't crash over a single new item.

Granted mythic /arcane items will (and should) always be the best and should only come in one "flavor" if you will


But many legendary items are too...useless for lack of a better word.
Like you can have architect blades of brutality, riposte and potency (correct me on this) i dont see why brutality must be the best flat out, can't the others have their unique perks so somebody farming doesn't feel let down if they get them.

For example maybe have one trump the dmg, while another will give slightly less dmg but more armor, health, other will give more dps and crit.

Not high enough differences to make one best overall (since every seems to always think dmg = everything[which is why so many tanks are less than capable]) but enough to make somebody think "i think the brutality might not be best for this situation/my playstyle"

We have loadouts for different equipment combinations, give people reason to use them! That way, not all, but at least way more pink items will be worth farming and not just doing elite in the hopes of getting the flavor that's worth the big money (sometimes easily several times more than one of the "lesser" types).

In the past event they could have made tarlok items for example comparable to top pinks and made the different types worth it.

Look up Tarlok Plate of Grace lvl 36.
Not sure value now but during event it was deplorable, definitely not deserving of a item that came exclusively from Imbued Golden Chests.

your idea about compare made me remember my old old years when i played conquer onnline... upgradedable system on new mytic can be like that, or any pinks can be 10000/10000 than they can tradedable + compose on mytics for mytics upgrade.. for example 0/10000 on a item. low lvl pinks can be giwe 1 point, hight lvls 2-3, any items 5-10. when reach 10000/10000 item can be upgrade to next step ( every item need to a number how much point will add on main item, and ppls will know before compose )... this compose system could great but i dont think happen on a simple mobile game... good idea for market + will make ppls busy long enought