Arcane Legend : Legend of the Giant

[Kimpling]

Im searched everywhere and still cant find the information i was lookin for. Just curious about how high our character in this AL game. So i make a little research about this only in 10 minutes, maybe u can provide some better calculations than this lol

1st, all of u know about HoR with 6 meter range

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2nd, this is the ratio between the skill range and the warrior height

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Woooot, 3.15 meter height !!! lmao of course this is a GIANT !

3rd, about rogue and mage height

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So, this is the result about our height (without any armor, helmet or vanity):
Warrior : 3.15 meter
Rogue : 2.9 meter
Mage : 1.5 meter

i dont know about the weight, dunno the metode to count it lol

Welcome to Arcane Legend, Legend of the Giant

Ps : this calculation in 2D pic, surely there will be mistake, but at least i can imagine my char in AL hahahahahaha

[Anarchist]

The smurfs aren't so small afterall they could do well in a basketball team!!

[Prahasit Prahi]

The smurfs aren't so small afterall they could do well in a basketball team!!

Hahahaha rofl

[elmanco]

Rogues uses high heels xD

[Ebezaanec]

Gotta thank Uller for those genes lol

[Madnex]

The rest of sorcerers' height is in our magic sticks.
















Of course I meant wands, what did you think!

[Ihateppl]

us mages really need to get a leg transplant

[Doomreaper]

Rogues uses high heels xD

Cracking up xD


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[Crowsfoot]

You compared the height of players to the length of HoR. Based on camera angle they could be twice as tall as you claim or even a tenth the size.

Sent using mathematical reasoning.

[utpal]

complete wrong bro.
need to use camera angle and sme 3D maths.
I think steradian should be used

[DocDoBig]

Heh, but nice idea - theory I admit!

[Linkincena]

Wow..My smurf toon is 1.5 mtrs..thats ma basketball player

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[Morholt]

You compared the height of players to the length of HoR. Based on camera angle they could be twice as tall as you claim or even a tenth the size.

Sent using mathematical reasoning.This.
The camera angle is an unknown, thus you cannot calculate the height of the warrior.

[Milan Lame Man]

Hmm so many people here claiming they love math, so lets do this.
I measured the ellipse as radius width 147 pixels, radius height 118 pixels, player projected height 59 pixels.

Computation 1: If we put a stick 6m tall at the center, it should be seen as sqrt(147^2-118^2)=88 pixels, so the player is in fact 59/88*6=4.04m tall.

Computation 2: Define camera angle, if looking from top, as 0. Then the angle is arccos(height/width)=36.6 deg. Player's projected height is real_height*sin(angle), so we have 59/arcsin(36.6)=99 pixels real player height, which funny enough gives 99/147*6=4.04m again.

Did I fail big time?

[Kimpling]

Woa 4 meter... giant -_-

Maybe devs know the answer...

[utpal]

use Pythagoras theorem lol

[Helicopter]

There is a way to achieve adjustable Camera angle..........remember Mysticaleagle? Well, he was a close friend and was a programmer/computer geek irl. He taught me how to do it. But I couldn't because I wasn't rooted. :P

[Crowsfoot]

use Pythagoras theorem lol
You need to know two sides. All we know is that:

6^2 + B^2 = C^2

Solving for B, we find that

B = √(C^2 - 36)

[Crowsfoot]

There is a way to achieve adjustable Camera angle..........remember Mysticaleagle? Well, he was a close friend and was a programmer/computer geek irl. He taught me how to do it. But I couldn't because I wasn't rooted. :P
How do you find a definite point and measure precise angles that correlate to those on a unit circle from a computer generated image? Unless we know some additional information we can never know.

[Anarchist]

How do you find a definite point and measure precise angles that correlate to those on a unit circle from a computer generated image? Unless we know some additional information we can never know.



Crow is right.
You guys are using cartesian x,y for your calculations but you need to use a cartesian x,y,z because AL is 3D based not 2D, then with the info from the skills diameter calculate the height of the toons.
*Assuming the skills diameter aren't randomly choosed by devs, though i think skills diameters are determined by power balance convienence(see whim brothers skill diameter buffs and nerfs).


You need to know two sides. All we know is that:

6^2 + B^2 = C^2

Solving for B, we find that

B = √(C^2 - 36)

Just as Crow said Pitagora isn't enough you need to know the Z value.
Putting CAMERA ANGLE(Z) =0 IS WRONG that is 2D.

Finding the Z value is the main problem, done that the problem becomes a piece of cake.

[Milan Lame Man]

How do you find a definite point and measure precise angles that correlate to those on a unit circle from a computer generated image? Unless we know some additional information we can never know.
Well the ellipse on the ground and knowing it is a circle with 6m radius should give enough information.
New values, taking perspective into account:
ellipse half width: 147 pixels
ellipse half height from center up: 118 pixels
ellipse half height from center down: 152 pixels
toon projected height: 59 pixels
real ellipse radius: 6 m

After some math this gives camera angle 25.3 degrees, pixel size 1/500, toon's feet distance 20.3m, and toon height 4.5m.

Now is there a dev who could tell us the real values? Eyeballing it, the toon sure is higher than 2m, more like the 4+.
Or a real geek to verify my findings or explaining why they are wrong?

[borix]

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:tongue: Please continue this is a fun exercise.

[DocDoBig]

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[Milan Lame Man]

I thought it was funny how so many people said they are good at math, even love it, so I wanted to put their skills to a test.
Fail, me and them both.

[SayCreed]

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Meme queen takin that aswell crai

[Crowsfoot]

Honestly, I won't even try to explain the math at hand. Look up the terminology yourself.

FYI: you can't use 3D trig to solve for a computer generated image.

[Milan Lame Man]

FYI: you can't use 3D trig to solve for a computer generated image.
Well I did assume that the projection plane is flat. And pixel aspect ratio 1:1. Obviously most phone's screens are curved, and pixels are rectangles or even worse. And the engine takes that into account. My fault.
I would love to be enlightened though. Too bad it's not gonna happen :-(

[H2N]

Hmm so many people here claiming they love math, so lets do this.
I measured the ellipse as radius width 147 pixels, radius height 118 pixels, player projected height 59 pixels.

Computation 1: If we put a stick 6m tall at the center, it should be seen as sqrt(147^2-118^2)=88 pixels, so the player is in fact 59/88*6=4.04m tall.

Computation 2: Define camera angle, if looking from top, as 0. Then the angle is arccos(height/width)=36.6 deg. Player's projected height is real_height*sin(angle), so we have 59/arcsin(36.6)=99 pixels real player height, which funny enough gives 99/147*6=4.04m again.

Did I fail big time?


Woa 4 meter... giant -_-

Maybe devs know the answer...

Math don't lie.

Honestly I don't know the answer, but Mily's explanation, right or wrong, is good enough for me, until something better comes along.

I just stand next to those canoes, and eyeball it.

[Milan Lame Man]

Honestly I don't know the answer
ROFL
Maybe the artists/designers know?

[H2N]

ROFL
Maybe the artists/designers know?

Got this reply from the lead artist:

"the warrior is 2.5 meters tall"

[DocDoBig]

But then it means the Nott's are barely 90 centimeters tall!




Literally .... smurfs.

[Anarchist]

Got this reply from the lead artist:

"the warrior is 2.5 meters tall"

*SDANG* see you were wrong Milan?
The missing X factor you can't calculate is the camera angle(Z).

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[H2N]

*SDANG* see you were wrong Milan?
The missing X factor you can't calculate is the camera angle(Z).


So now you should be able to calculate the camera angle, right?

[DocDoBig]

67.3801°

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[Anarchist]

So now you should be able to calculate the camera angle, right?

Since we have the correct height yes. You can calculate Z by following the inverse procedures you should have done calculating the height! :)

But i have D- in maths and my errors makes the maths teacher cry everyday except saturdays and sundays when i don't have maths lessons!
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[Hoardseeker]

*SDANG* see you were wrong Milan?
The missing X factor you can't calculate is the camera angle(Z).


So now you should be able to calculate the camera angle, right?
H2N,Make Warrior HoR to Heal Players in Whole Map=8meter and Players=Correct height! LOL

[Painting]

I think u did an oopsie on the little thing called 'calculating'

[Agirlnamedbob]

I think u did an oopsie on the little thing called 'calculating'

I think you did an oopsie on replying almost 5 years later.