Stomp madness

[Blaquehaaart]

Can you guys stop stomping every time the cool down is up?

Seriously, it's a crowd control nightmare!

By the mid 30's the novelty should wear off.

I especially can't stand it when I beckon, only to have another warrior stomp right into the pile enemies that I have so neatly grouped together.

Please don't stomp bosses all over the board...

Please don't stomp enemies into other enemies in elite dungeons...

Do stomp: as an oh crap button, and you are about to die and need to get people off you...stomp off enemies swarming the healer...

Rule of thumb: if you don't know whether or not to stomp don't!!!

[juhnken773]

Ehh, this thread won't help.

It's inevitable.

[dirtball]

If all the enemies are grouped together then the birds use their blast shot and mages follow with their stuff...bye bye enemies. Bears are supposed to keep groups of enemies contained in a small area so others aren't hit by them and can do the killing while the bear takes the punishment. In elite dungeons and AO3 simply do not pull too many enemies at once and you shouldn;t have a problem.
I agree that it is annoying when two bears are counter pulling and stomping. In areas without corners it will always happen. There still aren't all that many forum members compared to players.

[Zeus]

Sorry to break it to you, and this is not to anyone in particular or meant to take offense, but people who mostly aren't on the forums or experienced, (mynas gen, new droid gen(some are exceptions) etc. They have not picked up the tactics yet or way to play the game most efficiently along with maintaining the level of fun. There are a few ways to go about this. You can either teach them, let them learn with time, not join that person's games, stick with an experienced group of friends, ignore them and move on, or keep buying trash can pots every game :)

[Blaquehaaart]

I can see it being fun for the first 30 lvls or so, but I've see lvl45s doing it like crazy. You'd think that after 40 or so level you'd start playing to your characters strengths and learn how to control crowds well. Eh, me thinks that people just want their warriors dpsing as high as they can, with disregard to everyone else. If that's the case stomp first, then, beckon everyone back together.

Eh, I just think it frustrating, and rude when I'm trying to keep the mobs together and some other warrior is jumping in the pile of leaves I just raked together.

[Lubinski]

get together with a good group and they may listen to your tactics, but I agree, I also use stomp way more than i should

[Arterra]

stomping is ok. its the way they do it that sucks.

beckon in, then move to the side and stomp them towards wall or preferably a corner. then aoe death!

[ParalyzedWalrus]

the stomping isent a problem when u have a megablaster ( with the great distance )

[Arterra]

the stomping isent a problem when u have a megablaster ( with the great distance )

only if you plan on single target removal. we are more worried with using mage and bird skills effectively.

[Blaquehaaart]

Stomp first, then beckon! If you wanna go stomp crazy pull the boss/adds in the corner, then you can go stomp crazy for the extra dps. I really don't mind how someone does crowd control as long as they are making the run easier.

Warriors main strength is crowd control. Considering their dps is nowhere near birds and enchantress' your actually hurting a group if you are not doing it right.

I'd much rather be play whack a mole with attack/debuff rotation than chasing a boss around the board. If you're tanking and can get the a hell scream/crushing blow/taunt/mega slash rotaion up (evade and ironblood are my "oh crap" buttons) with the other group members debuffs, you won't take any damage, even with a two handed weapon. Then you can blast out the dps of your slashes. If you really wanna spam stomp, pull the boss into a corner with beckon, then add stomp into the rotation.

In any case, control is the name of the game.

Spam stomping resets boss fights, pulls adds, puts teams mates at risk, increases the risks of wipes, makes the crowd control a disaster, and kills the dps of the other members. If you really want the novelty of pushing enemies around the board, spam beckon, it'll make things much easier for everyone.

[Retributionzx]

Firstly from the way your complaining about the stomping it seems your nt a bear therefore it shouldn't matter just attack then from distance though if your a bear your self you probably should stomp because if your a bear you would understand that bears dont do much damage. Or you could ask the bear go lure them in for you. Btw this stomping madness only happens at low lvl dungeons so it shouldn't be a big problem n I do enjoy stoning because it helps with eushing

[ciss]

I'm a new gen player (Droid), but gave my best to pick up from here and there, and with some reading and experiencing, and with some help from members from the forum here, I got the hang of it, and consider myself a quite skilled bear now.

This is the quote that changed my way of playing as a bear, and if any bears read this, you should try do the same:


Iron blood and evade (if its a heavy mob), beckon, taunt, hell scream, (leave a bit for mages/birds to combo), and just when they are about finished you stomp them away. In between the wait you can probably take out 1-2 with slashes. Just rinse and repeat. Your evade/iron blood buffs probably won't be ready in time before you can take the next mob, so I suggest just alternate amounts of huge mobs. First wave is a big one, next one is a smaller one and repeat. Though if your confident in your mage and they can clear fast, you can very much use your evade/iron blood rotation.


This is an epic quote from Ellyidol!

[StompArtist]

Sorry Mate. Boot me from your game if you will but I am in the mid 40's and I cannot get enough of the pull them all around and stomp them away! LOL Hey I play this game for fun and this is part of the fun. Mind you I also taunt a lot so I guess it evens out.

Most my deaths I got by the pull/stomp "effect" and I wouldn't have it any other way... Or by doing a suicide run in a level and trying to get as many enemies after me as possible after me... Some players get angry with the style, others laugh... and a lot are real good at adapting to it and when I find those we clear levels in the blink of an eye. To each his style of playing bro. Important thing is to have fun.

Cheers.

[Retributionzx]

You guys have to understand part of being a bear is this. Stomping isnt the only annoying if u were serious u could add in elfs that don't heal or revive, birds who just run away n melée characters can't attack n there's leechs. Having other problems/ issues stomping would be one of my least issues that I'm worried about n it happens mostly at low lvls

[StompArtist]

You guys have to understand part of being a bear is this. Stomping isnt the only annoying if u were serious u could add in elfs that don't heal or revive, birds who just run away n melée characters can't attack n there's leechs. Having other problems/ issues stomping would be one of my least issues that I'm worried about n it happens mostly at low lvls

Not to mention the mages that find themselves alone in a party run ahead of everybody into a cluster of enemies, die in 2 seconds sharp and start saying "rev" every 2 seconds as if anyone could do anything about it.

[Blaquehaaart]

Eh, I played a healer in WoW so I don't expect anyone to heal. I know what it's like to heal instances with tanks that run in blindly, screaming for heals and pulling way too much aggro and not managing the CC, causing wipes, and blaming the healer and the rest of the team. It's the same kinda guys that spend most of the pvp game yelling at healers...while the healer is get constantly jumped, and they do nothing about it. Thus, I wouldn't heal anyone that expected it just based on the fact that they are usually pretty bad players, and have horrible team ethic. Healers pick and chose who to heal, and I don't blame them. I'd usually heal people that I know can manage the CC and not pull to much aggro...or were mindful and skilled enough to get people off of me in pvp. Otherwise, I'd let them die so I could save myself and people actually helping the group.

Spam stoppers are probably 2nd worst type of players to leeches...and I'm saying this from the point of view of a warrior. If an elf doesn't want to heal I'll pop pots...I rarely ever touch my gold so I don't care. If people run off and get themselves kill, I don't care either -- they are not ruining my game.

You know who ruins my game though? Spam stompers!!! They make boss encounter difficult, they make aoe for the mages difficult, they screw up everyone else's CC, they make runs slower and more frustrating. It's a horrid ability that I be happy was striped from warrior, even without a replacement skill.

Spam stompers are like your friend's little retarded brother that tags along, when you and your friends are playing basketball. You know, that little twerp that never passes, can barely dribble, is slow as hell, takes blind shots that he never makes, and thinks he's an all-star. When in reality, he's just ruining the game for everyone that where nice enough to let him play.

[Retributionzx]

Blaque do u have a bear by any chance because if you don't like I said before you have to be a bear to understand stomping. Plus stomping is good for rushing it pushes away npc that block the tankers. Without blasting them away tankers can't move therefore everyone gets killed. Though are correct that healers don't have to heal yet that means tankers dont have to tank? N you were also mentioning removing the skill stomp well if mages aren't healing wouldn't it be fair to remove heal n revive also?

[Lesrider]

Whoa whoa whoa. No need to remove skills because some people don't use them correctly.

Simple solution: add to your friends list those who do know how to play correctly, and form your own teams. If someone doesn't play the way you like them to, just try to avoid playing with them. Simple.

And yes, stomping is great for rushing (as long as the bear doesn't stomp the barrel the Mage is next to).

[StompArtist]

Eh, I played a healer in WoW so I don't expect anyone to heal. I know what it's like to heal instances with tanks that run in blindly, screaming for heals and pulling way too much aggro and not managing the CC, causing wipes, and blaming the healer and the rest of the team. It's the same kinda guys that spend most of the pvp game yelling at healers...while the healer is get constantly jumped, and they do nothing about it. Thus, I wouldn't heal anyone that expected it just based on the fact that they are usually pretty bad players, and have horrible team ethic. Healers pick and chose who to heal, and I don't blame them. I'd usually heal people that I know can manage the CC and not pull to much aggro...or were mindful and skilled enough to get people off of me in pvp. Otherwise, I'd let them die so I could save myself and people actually helping the group.

Spam stoppers are probably 2nd worst type of players to leeches...and I'm saying this from the point of view of a warrior. If an elf doesn't want to heal I'll pop pots...I rarely ever touch my gold so I don't care. If people run off and get themselves kill, I don't care either -- they are not ruining my game.

You know who ruins my game though? Spam stompers!!! They make boss encounter difficult, they make aoe for the mages difficult, they screw up everyone else's CC, they make runs slower and more frustrating. It's a horrid ability that I be happy was striped from warrior, even without a replacement skill.

Spam stompers are like your friend's little retarded brother that tags along, when you and your friends are playing basketball. You know, that little twerp that never passes, can barely dribble, is slow as hell, takes blind shots that he never makes, and thinks he's an all-star. When in reality, he's just ruining the game for everyone that where nice enough to let him play.

Sounds like you need to Host and boot the bears out if this is such an issue to you. Meanwhile I am certain that most other players enjoy the company of us the stomp happy bears.
No need to punish other people because your playing style does not work well with players that use stomp.
I say keep the skill, host your own "bear free" dungeons and everybody wins!

[Retributionzx]

Lesrider I have nothing wrong with the skills I reckon every skill is good. If I were to change skills I would add more. Plus barrels shouldn't kill u anyway just heal if they do try step away from the tanker more or shoot the barrel ealier n one last thing for blaque PL isn't WOW n you can always make your own private party if you don't like team work.

[Lesrider]

I know how to deal with the barrels. But some players are a bit too reckless with them for my taste. The best teams I'm in can rush without throwing half the team backwards from a barrel.

Edit: I have been playing mostly without bears on my team these days, since bears have been nerfed terribly. And I think the once in a while that a bear does join the team is when I have more trouble avoiding barrels. If there's no bear, I tank as pally, so I'm leading, and try to avoid blowing up the barrels. It is possible to rush without destroying your teammates. And mages are supposed to stick close to bears, so it's wise if a bear can place his stomps away from the barrels.

Again, I know how to deal with them, and they don't often kill me. But it's just not a wise thing for a bear to do.

[Blaquehaaart]

Yes I play a bear...once again, I play a bear...for the third time, I play a bear. I think I've said that in every post. I don't know why people keep telling me, "well if you played a bear". It's my only toon in PL.

No most people do not like stomp happy bears...only the person stomping gets a kick out of it because he can sent people flying around the board.

I don't have a anything wrong with stomp...I still use it...for the purpose of crowd control. However, most bears will pull every one around them stomp them to spread them out. Very rarely do I see a bear run to the side of pile and stomp it in one direction...like into a corner, or a wall. For the most part, bears like to send mobs and people flying around...the further the better. Stomp is the move that causes the most hindrance in the game...healing doesn't spam healing isn't gonna dramatically slow down a run.

It's a novelty that should wear out after your thirties, because it really hurts the team if it isn't done right.

Yes...if a healer doesn't want to heal that's fine...you don't have to tank. However, they are not being a burden to you by not healing...they are doing you a favor. It doesn't surprise me that a stomp spammer feels like elves are obligated to heal them. Stomp spamming is a very selfish way of playing.

[Retributionzx]

Lesrider I don't understand why you have to be so close when your rushing I can rush with a lvl 1 n I won't die, just stay back n you still won't die all the npc's aim for first rusher which is normally the tanker. Though one thing thats frustrating me is why your saying bears have to tank n they can't stomp while mages don't have to heal or revive. Well you guys make it sound you have to follow your rules or your aren't allowed to play.

Another about the barrels you mentioned you barely play with bears so I don't see that as a problem n barrels only become a problem in over, Gurg n keeper basically. Plus most people pot up n mages always can heal themselves or revive n if u aren't healing other use ur own pots I normally rely on my selve so I use hp pots all the time.

Also blaque u mentioned nt seeing much cornering so your probably rushing so I don't understand why u wat the npc surrounding u? If ur still lvling tell the bear to do corners if he doesn't know how just say lure them in the corner n no pushing skills. Stomping isn't a problem at all for lvling once you ask them once.

Btw blaque it ain't selfish of stomp spammers if your claiming mages aren't healing even when they know someone need help. Though that's a minor problem for me the only thing that trouble me is orb hogging mainly mages do it n I find it a lot better when everyone grabs one orb for themselves. Oh n if mages aren't obliged to heal them safe goes with anyone that is a warrior obliged to tank.

Just to classify one thing if you see a bear making npc flying very far its because he's usig lure n stomp at the same time this increase pushing distance so it's basically both skills that cause the huge push backs but I'm nt going in to a luring debate.

One last thing to Lesrider normally when you find barrels you will find a group of npc normally one will paralyze the tanker that's the main reason he has to stomp so he doesn't get paralized.

[Blaquehaaart]

By no means am I saying that mages shouldn't heal...what I'm saying is that warriors need to get over the mentality that mages are required to heal them. Just pop pots if you're in trouble, and manage your aggro. As for orb hogging...as sad as it is this game is completely unbalanced. Mages are the most important, because they can heal and revive...birds are second because their dps is insane...and bears are just charity cases, because the best bear with only increase the speed of the run marginally...or decrease it via spam stomp. Honestly, if they don't balance the classes everyone will have a mages...which is already becoming the case.

And no, you don't need to tank if you don't want to...frankly, warriors only make good tanks on bosses, because they can mitigate spike damage better. For grinding, birds and mages can hold much better aggro on groups, and are better suited...they can easily spec for strength and wear plate and use shields. Warriors, in their current state, are only the kings of crowd control. The irony is that most warriors make crowd control a nightmare via stomp spam.

[Retributionzx]

Well that's the first I have heard of mages being the best on ao3 the order ik is bears, avians the mages. I agree with this because I have found out tankers r important especially when it comes to rushing n avians because they do the most damage mages r only helpful when healing or reviving but they normally die first unless they hide which is normally he case in ol n Gurg, seems such a waste of a character n normal they die even when hey grab orbs non stop. N I find bears very good for reducing damage but my favorite thing about bears is the normally r the last one surviving n they survive long enough for everyone to return depending if the others respawn normally no one respawns.... Really by pain second biggest besides orb hog. Blaque u might say beard r useless becauz elfs can become paladins but i find them a lot weaker nt only me bt a lot of my friend paladins seem weak n they seem to die alot compared to bear viewing ur comments I think ur a big fan of elfs yet u say elfs r the best for there healing n reviving but through your previous comments u say mages don't have to heal n it seem like u don't heal much so if everyone acted that way mages have no advantage over other class's.

[Lesrider]

Retribution, please try using some punctuation. I would discuss this with you, but reading your 10-line sentences is making me dizzy.

[Zeus]

OMG Les you are so right, I tried reading the post above you and my head hurt after the first three lines. People, start using punctuation, it makes things much for legible for the person to read, who in return just may help you. Really, it only takes like an extra minute to punctuate.

[Retributionzx]

Yeh my english ain't so great n I I can't be bothered adding full stops n commers I normally leave then out.

[Blaquehaaart]

That's not true...warriors are not the best tanks. They are usually the last ones to die because they can't hold aggro...because they have such low damage and one aoe effect that ruins CC. Birds and mages at holding aggro far better, except on longer boss fights where a bear can simply spam taunt.

Also, I've seen a bird practically solo the overloard...and was the main tank. Of course said bird was rocking full cosmos, but never the less he was the best tank and the best dps on the team.

Warriors far at the bottom of the list...have you been on an all warrior team? It's sooo slow!!!

[Zeus]

Would that said birds name Haikus?

[bladesword]

Be a lv50 then complain, makes more sence

[Lesrider]

Yeh my english ain't so great n I I can't be bothered adding full stops n commers I normally leave then out.

Sorry, then don't expect too many people to read what you write.

[Blaquehaaart]

No I think it was birdmage...or something like that.

[Blaquehaaart]

Also how does being 50 make more sense? Does spam stomping magically stop when I become 50? Because I see a ton of 50 lvl spam stompers...

[Retributionzx]

Blaque a full team of any character aint good if I was to have a team a tanker n the rest avians. N btw tanker is when u take all the hits nt run around in circles.

[Blaquehaaart]

Wait, how are you suppose to be taking all hits when your spam stomping? I mean spam stoping is a move to get mobs off of you and give the enemy enough time and distance for the dps to pull them off you.

And no, the best team make up is a group of five mages, because they can all heal, revive, and dps...if speced right, tank.

Warrior aren't needed for any groups...tanks really aren't clutch for this game, groups can simply spam their way through campaigns. Lastly, warriors don't make great tanks, anyway, because they don't have any effective moves for holding group aggro and their dps is trumped by the other classes. Taunt only works effectively on long single target fights when you can spam it.

[Retributionzx]

Blaque i suppose to really a elf fan but i wont disagree with having a group of mages. You probably enjoy full mages groups while i prefer mixtures. Plus have you ever tried rushing with no tank normally some one dies and the mage doesn't even heal. Then when the mage releases she/ he goes back and normally dies.

Best not change the subject from stomping and which groups and class's are better. Blaque if you really hate bears just host and boot them or make a private party or if you hate avians also and prefer mages you could also do that.

n btw i only stomp if my health is low on my tank or when my whole team is out so i can survive longer i normally dont stomp because sometimes stomping actually causes your own team mates to die, sometimes it happens to me even.

[Blaquehaaart]

That's the point I making...stomp spam screws your team mates up. Why are arguing with me?

I talking specifically about stomp spam (I.e. hitting stomp every time the cool down is up, no matter the situation)

Stomp is a very usefull move if used correctly, my gripe is that it is over abused...specifically in the end game when people should be over the novelty.

...and no I'm not a fan of elves. Frankly, I think they are vastly over powered, because they can basically spec to fill every role in the game.

[Retributionzx]

Blaque i didn't start making it arguement but i'm againest people who say every bears are useless and are horrible i enjoy warriors and i dont like you posting how good elfs are i enjoy all class's not just one specific. I once wanted to be a mage more then anything but i'm in to avians now, oh probably should have read the whole comment well if you aren't such a big fan of elves why you supporting them so much and shunning bears so much?

Lesrider thank you for the srry.

[ciss]

you havent played enough a tank to really appreciate the usefullness of stomp, that s my only explanation. I agree that a bear is not (no longer after the nerf) badly needed in a group, but DONT underestimate its role in a group, especially if he does not lack leadership and enjoys planning fights and leading battles.

Yes, I agree, if you have 2 pallies full rift in your team, no bear is required, but don t forget rushes, dont forget the power of bekon (to speedy grouping for mages aoe spells) and also STOMP is a most essential spell. If there are a vast majority of bad played bears, it doesnt mean all bears are useless or can be easily replaced. Taunt WORKS and it s awesome, no matter what others may say!

They do speed things up, no matter what one can say.

I have a 50 pally also, still I love organizing teams as the bear leader!

Therefore stop spamming your hate against bears all over your posts, it's not needed!

LE: For me, the ideal team thunder fast clearing with 0 deaths is made up of a good tank, a mage and 3 birds!

A piece of advice for all bears out there!

- spam taunt ALWAYS
- do not spam stomp
- lead the way always, take the first spike from mobs
- dont stomp when your mage and barrels are near you
- do not stomp greenie thing ( don t break archer root)
- hell scream when you see purple thing (weakness)
- stomp when your mage/s are surrounded by mobs
- did I say to ALWAYS spam taunt as soon as up, especially at bosses
- after bekon and taunt, DO not Stopm, wait there, in the middle of mobs or against the wall, wait for combos, debuff, spam taunt, slashes, and when you feel they are about to be finished up, or you are overwhelmed, then you may hit stomp.
- at bosses ALWAYS have bekon and Stomp ready, for when they move to re corner them, meanwhile use hell, slashes and normal attack.

[Blaquehaaart]

I totally agree with the play style you listed.

Although, taunt isn't as effective on mobs because they are usaully all dead by the first cool down. It is amazing on longer single target fights though...it takes about 3 taunts to establish primary aggro.

...and I don't hate bears. I hate stomp spammers.

[Retributionzx]

Good then stomp saying they are useless I'm sick of hearing other class's are better then others I believe class is unique in different area and ciss u said u don't need a bear tank because u can replace with two pallys I prefer to have one tank who can rank just as good as two pallys. Btw stmping spamming only happens barely

[Blaquehaaart]

Dude, you must be playing a whole nother game...stomp spam is pretty common, and bears are near useless. I guesses if you're two manning a dungeon. I just two manned ao2 with a 46 mage and he healed and dps'd. I basically just took the beating...that's probably the only time I was instrumental in the end game. Although the mage was good enough to watch aggro a knew where to run, and how to let me get it back. Otherwise, I just spend my time trying to keep mobs off the casters.

[Light Knight]

To be fair, there are a lot of mages who don't keep their distance and run right into the brawl. I hate when I have 2 mages right in the middle of it, and I got to go stomp it out.

Sometimes I know the other players might get annoyed that I stomped them all out, but there are some pretty stupid mages and birds out there who leave me no choice (unless I let them die). As there are many stupid bears.

[Retributionzx]

Blaque just because u experience non stomping doesn't mean we all do and as Lesrider said before make a private party there shouldn't be reason why u still experience non stomping. N as I said before stop saying bears are useless I enjoy each class as I said before so stop saying bears are useless keep those opinions to urself.

[Blaquehaaart]

Aren't opinions the whole point of a forum? I don't seem to be the only one with the opinion that bears have been nerfed to hell. Lots of people that have them stopped playing them, and and a good amount of people seem to be apprehensive about playing with them...because bears just don't have the near the dps as the other classes, ruin CC, and tanking just really isn't a necessity in this game.

As for groups, not all the good people I know are on, every time I am, so I run pick up games. I form groups as well, when needed. Thus I deal with it, which for the most part I can handle mages not healing and running in blinding, birds pulling to much aggro, mages not rezing, people to lazy to run back...honestly none of the that really affects the way I play. Most of the aggravation is from stomp spam, misuse of knock backs in general drive me nut, but stomp spam is by far the most prevelant.

LK - definitely true...I've actually been seeing that a lot from level 50's who ball out way to hard and wipe. Then, get frustrated and drop group. Eh, I only make it an effort to save people that play with the team in mind...if someone is healing they are on the top of the list for pulling agro off of. I'll disengage a boss to get mobs off them via beckon/stomp and taunt spam and super mega slash to get mobs off a healer. If the dps is managing agro than I'll make it a point to keep stray add off of them. Other warriors I leave to the own devices...and I actually like grouping with other warriors as long as the don't stomp spam, because I can't off tank mobs off the healers. Otherwise, if people are doing their own thing I let them...my priority is helping people that are helping everyone else.

[jonboy]

Wow, I read the lot, make sure if a Mage drops a icestorm and you don't see a follow up firestorm, they are giving you the option to stomp for shattered combo, I do that but if the bear does not grab the option, I lay the firestorm down just before icestorm runs out.

[random1102]

Wow, I read the lot, make sure if a Mage drops a icestorm and you don't see a follow up firestorm, they are giving you the option to stomp for shattered combo, I do that but if the bear does not grab the option, I lay the firestorm down just before icestorm runs out.

Yeap

stomp + firestorm = godly damage
icestorm = bear's cue to STOMPP~

funny thing is
i only got to do that combo up to around ao2

after hitting ao3
stomp bears seem to be a thing of the past :(
really missed doing that combo

don't see much of them bears nowadays

[StompArtist]

I have been defending bears a lot these days and finally broke down and made a bird this weekend to see what the fuss was all about. I must admit that the game-play is much faster and must confess to thinking "here we go I got to help the bear again stomping away". I now agree that the bears although strong and fun to play with are complete dead weight to other classes. I just kept having to slow down and even turn around to help the bear running after enemies all over the place never being able to connect a hit.

Quite a disappointment really.

[Retributionzx]

Blaque forums aren't used to complain about certain topics its a source for someone to talk about a specific topic. If you really hate stompig so much just post a forum plus it is a game don't get so carried away it suppose to be fun where stomp artist said before bears are strong and fun to play with. I play PL because it's fun I don't take it so serious if I die Ill just laugh or if some amateur gets the whole team killed I'll laugh at that. Plus there has been a lot of advice from other players if u really hate stomping make a private party there shouldnt be a reason for your complaining.

Blaque just to let you could you really stop changing the topic from stomping madness to bear madness cause i would prefer PL to have three types of characters instead of two.

Remember enjoy th game don't take it so serious if your getting mad over it so much why play PL?

[StompArtist]

Blaque forums aren't used to complain about certain topics its a source for someone to talk about a specific topic. If you really hate stompig so much just post a forum plus it is a game don't get so carried away it suppose to be fun where stomp artist said before bears are strong and fun to play with. I play PL because it's fun I don't take it so serious if I die Ill just laugh or if some amateur gets the whole team killed I'll laugh at that. Plus there has been a lot of advice from other players if u really hate stomping make a private party there shouldnt be a reason for your complaining.

Blaque just to let you could you really stop changing the topic from stomping madness to bear madness cause i would prefer PL to have three types of characters instead of two.

Remember enjoy th game don't take it so serious if your getting mad over it so much why play PL?

- I think it's not stomping as much as the Bears skills being a little unbalanced. Given that the Bears have no real ability to fight from a distance it makes it very difficult to get to ranged enemies with them. Perhaps the damage should be slightly increased when hitting with Bears to re-balance the game at higher levels... Also I couldn't agree more with your statements about laughing and having fun. Key word here is GAME. lol

[Retributionzx]

Exactly this whole forum we have been going back on forth on different topics n if I were to sum it up it would take awhile yet I wouldn't take Pl so serious.

[Blaquehaaart]

No, it's stomp spamming that aggravates me...other knock backs as well, but particularly stomp because it's over abused.

[Retributionzx]

Lol I'm giving up on this forum I don't think you get what I said just before....

[Blaquehaaart]

I get what you say, but you are misinformed.

There are only two real classes in this game. Other players besides and including me, of the same (even bears with full cosmos gear) and different classes, agree that bears are dead weight in the endgame, and are not needed at all.

I'm just taking it up a notch and saying that stomp spammers actually hurt the group.

I just think it's a good idea for bear to be good charity cases and manage CC well.

[Refriedchicken]

I use stomp as soon as timer is up, but I do it smartly.

On a boss, I always angle myself to stomp it into a wall.

In a crowd, I wait for others to use their AoE, then stomo, then pull then together again.