Minimal stat range for elites! need help!

[Khylan]

Since it has finally become necessary to have a real group for elites I need help with what minimum stats should be for each class. Skill choice aside, what do people think the baseline stats should be? I am not interested in fully mythic/arcane uber toon, just want the minimal stats should look like mythic or not (the stats I put for a rogue are attainable without 36 mythic armor for example).

So, if you are a well geared player and have some skill, what is the threshold for another player of your class in your group? I will fill this in as people post, thanks for the help!

Rogue:

HP: 3200+
Dodge%: 35+
crit %: 25+
damage: 420+
armor: (mythic) 1363 (non mythic) ???


Warrior (tank mythic) source: Utpal (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?106971-utpal)

HP: 6k+ (6.5k+ is recommended)
Armour: 1850+ (2k+ recommended)
DMG: 250+

reommended set: upgraded mythic set.
any weapon will do. conqueror wall of potency is good if u dnt hav pavise.
pet: valkin, prance, snaggletooth.

Warrior (dps)

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Sorcerer (source Keikali (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?100662-keikali))

HP: At least 3.2K HP which is already pushing it. 3.4K HP or more is recommended
Dodge: lolwut?
Crit: Nowadays more than 25%. Crit kills.
Damage: 400+. 500+ is recommended
Armor: 1.1K+

[keikali]

Sorcerer

HP: At least 3.2K HP which is already pushing it. 3.4K HP or more is recommended
Dodge: lolwut?
Crit: Nowadays more than 25%. Crit kills.
Damage: 400+. 500+ is recommended
Armor: 1.1K+

This is strictly endgame elites. Brackenridge? Ain't nobody got time fo dat.

[supersyan]

samael

[utpal]

warrior:
HP: 6k+ (6.5k+ is recommended)
Armour: 1850+ (2k+ recommended)
DMG: 250+

reommended set: upgraded mythic set.
any weapon will do. conqueror wall of potency is good if u dnt hav pavise.
pet: valkin, prance, snaggletooth.

[Frekken]

Yeah I saw some 140damage warrior with blight in a party recently 0.o

[Anarchist]

What is the build for warrior? i am thinking of going:
Skyward smash.
Jugg.
Horn.
Venge.

and use a tanking weapon...

Is this a good elite build?

[Ravager]

What is the build for warrior? i am thinking of going:
Skyward smash.
Jugg.
Horn.
Venge.

and use a tanking weapon...

Is this a good elite build?

Thats mostly a pvp build.
Make sure to add taunt. Consider replacing jug with cs for the feeble and taunt.

[Waheedski]

warrior:
HP: 6k+ (6.5k+ is recommended)
Armour: 1850+ (2k+ recommended)
DMG: 250+

reommended set: upgraded mythic set.
any weapon will do. conqueror wall of potency is good if u dnt hav pavise.
pet: valkin, prance, snaggletooth.

Can you achieve those stats without a non myth gear set up. I am lvl 41 and have peaked on 5.6k health and 1900 armour, I have maxed out my strength, might and durable skill points, my current health and armour is not even good enough for solo Tindirin lol. I have architect helm and plate, Arlorian wall of will weapon lvl 41 and Abbadon as pet also lvl 41.

My damage output is kinda low like 189, but I'm a tank, I leave the damage to the mages and rogues.

Any advice to improve my stats would be appreciated greatly thank you.

[Khylan]

updated info, thanks peeps for contributing!

[Sorcerie]

So it looks like for the sorc class you need to be full mythic with a lvl36 mythic staff and a Samael in order to have the proper HP, crit, and armor stat to be of real use to your party.

Let's hope that the lvl 31 mythic weapons get replaced by the lvl 36 in locked soon or else we sorcs are all SOL for the elite maps.

[Anarchist]

Thats mostly a pvp build.
Make sure to add taunt. Consider replacing jug with cs for the feeble and taunt.

Wops i though it was good for pvE i did some research and dig crowfoot build up:

Wind.
Jugg.
Venge.
Horn.

how do u see this?

[Ravager]

Thats mostly a pvp build.
Make sure to add taunt. Consider replacing jug with cs for the feeble and taunt.

Wops i though it was good for pvE i did some research and dig crowfoot build up:

Wind.
Jugg.
Venge.
Horn.

how do u see this?

Wind does a good job of taunting but it doesnt feeble and it forces cooldown of all your skills. Ive seen this work for many warriors though.

[Visiting]

No elites for me then according to Kei XD

[keikali]

Ralnub

[utpal]

Can you achieve those stats without a non myth gear set up. I am lvl 41 and have peaked on 5.6k health and 1900 armour, I have maxed out my strength, might and durable skill points, my current health and armour is not even good enough for solo Tindirin lol. I have architect helm and plate, Arlorian wall of will weapon lvl 41 and Abbadon as pet also lvl 41.

My damage output is kinda low like 189, but I'm a tank, I leave the damage to the mages and rogues.

Any advice to improve my stats would be appreciated greatly thank you.

yup. i m using gemmed tarlok will set lvl36
and gemned tarlok fitness lvl36 and winter star ring lvl36.
weapon i use conqueror of potency lvl41.
for additional armour i use lvl36 winter shield.
pet i use is snaggle valkin and prance mostly.
so my stats r 6.1k hp , 1869armour and 254dmg.
which is nt bad stats and nt good either.

if u really dnt care about dmg then u should go for lvl41 conqueror tactics set. it gives more armour and hp then architect and tarlok set. bt very low dmg.
bt dmg needed for horn healing bt ok u can pots.

architect not good as well as the arlorian wall for solo tindirin.
recommended stats can be achieved by upgraded mythic set only.

[Frekken]

Full myth mage needed its a myth.
Just go full damage. No heal, no shield, pot as needed

[inkredible]

70775
for warriors
im only lvl 40 for now.. started lvling tho i really didnt want to but

Id say 6k + health is fine, just have really high SPPS (spam pots per second)
1.8k + armor doable, i would use abaddon for pet - reduce enemies armor by 15%, hit by 20%, 10% for crit

PVE Specs i would do is : Cs/ SS/ Hor/ Jugg - 3 taunts

CS : 2/5 , 3/5
SS: 3/5 or 4/5
HOR: 5/5
JUGG: 4/5 /5/5

5/5 durable , youll be fine

[eugene9707]

Sorcerer (source Keikali (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/member.php?100662-keikali))

HP: At least 3.2K HP which is already pushing it. 3.4K HP or more is recommended
Dodge: lolwut?
Crit: Nowadays more than 25%. Crit kills.
Damage: 400+. 500+ is recommended
Armor: 1.1K+

maybe im wrong but .... this is saying you need full mythic to do it (or 4/5)?
70782
i cant even get 1.1k armor lol

[keikali]

maybe im wrong but .... this is saying you need full mythic to do it (or 4/5)?
i cant even get 1.1k armor lol

You'll do fine.

And I'm not going to lie, for a Mage you have to be geared out for the new maps. Also a full Mythic Mage Set is pretty cheap nowadays, but with all these new maps the prices might rise so I'd jump on ANY Mythic Sets for any classes now.

[famousfame]

What is the build for warrior? i am thinking of going:
Skyward smash.
Jugg.
Horn.
Venge.

and use a tanking weapon...

Is this a good elite build?


Thats mostly a pvp build.
Make sure to add taunt. Consider replacing jug with cs for the feeble and taunt.

Like ravager said that's a classic PvP duel set up do not use jugg ur just wasting skill set u will need another attack either wm or cs and personally I'd b a touch selfish and ditch taunt u will get slaughtered if u aggro mob.

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[Serancha]

Windmill has a very long cooldown. By the time you can use it again, your dps teammates are dead. Especially in these maps.

Both smash and axe have the fantastic 8 second stun, as long as you don't use prance or something equally bogus that cancels it.

Axe and cs both have feeble and taunt, so along with HoR, you can keep the mobs in place AND unable to crit. This is so important with both the scorn guys and the shamans that can all one-hit a rogue or a mage, even with full mythics.

A tough call, but any combo of those skills, along with horn / venge is excellent. As a rogue, I always end up dead with windmill warriors. Not to mention cs hits just as many mobs (since the Great Windmill Nerf of 2013).

The more damage a warrior does, the less hits he (and his team) has to take. Sword/shield combos make for very long runs with lots of death.

Ps. No legendary warrior should be under 6k hp. Check your spec if you are below that at 40+

[utpal]

Windmill has a very long cooldown. By the time you can use it again, your dps teammates are dead. Especially in these maps.

Both smash and axe have the fantastic 8 second stun, as long as you don't use prance or something equally bogus that cancels it.

Axe and cs both have feeble and taunt, so along with HoR, you can keep the mobs in place AND unable to crit. This is so important with both the scorn guys and the shamans that can all one-hit a rogue or a mage, even with full mythics.

A tough call, but any combo of those skills, along with horn / venge is excellent. As a rogue, I always end up dead with windmill warriors. Not to mention cs hits just as many mobs (since the Great Windmill Nerf of 2013).

The more damage a warrior does, the less hits he (and his team) has to take. Sword/shield combos make for very long runs with lots of death.

Ps. No legendary warrior should be under 6k hp. Check your spec if you are below that at 40+

What r u saying? smash and axe both useless in elites. they hav 3sec stun. nt 8s.
and y u saying prance bogus? it gives +35str and +60armour. passive stuns 5enemies.

wow . wat u said tht war should do high dmg? LOL. u think every playr has maul?
sword shield is tanking weapon. its rogue job to kill fast. not wars. war r meat shield.

all legendery warrior hv 5.8k hp maximum atm
as currently conquistor items r cheap and new legendery gears r insanely high. unless they hav super gemmed tarlok set.
and y dnt u all farmers sell at considerable price.
in auction magma sets for warrior listed for 2m for helm and 2.5m for armour.
LOL

[Waheedski]

70775
for warriors
im only lvl 40 for now.. started lvling tho i really didnt want to but

Id say 6k + health is fine, just have really high SPPS (spam pots per second)
1.8k + armor doable, i would use abaddon for pet - reduce enemies armor by 15%, hit by 20%, 10% for crit

PVE Specs i would do is : Cs/ SS/ Hor/ Jugg - 3 taunts

CS : 2/5 , 3/5
SS: 3/5 or 4/5
HOR: 5/5
JUGG: 4/5 /5/5

5/5 durable , youll be fine

6.3k health and 528 damage, would you like to divulge your gear setup :)

[Serancha]

What r u saying? smash and axe both useless in elites. they hav 3sec stun. nt 8s.
and y u saying prance bogus? it gives +35str and +60armour. passive stuns 5enemies.

wow . wat u said tht war should do high dmg? LOL. u think every playr has maul?
sword shield is tanking weapon. its rogue job to kill fast. not wars. war r meat shield.

all legendery warrior hv 5.8k hp maximum atm
as currently conquistor items r cheap and new legendery gears r insanely high. unless they hav super gemmed tarlok set.
and y dnt u all farmers sell at considerable price.
in auction magma sets for warrior listed for 2m for helm and 2.5m for armour.
LOL

Level 40 Warrior with mostly level 36 gear (35 entombed - under 160K). All legendary items and a legendary pet, with only 4 super gems in the set, which, by the way, is not a Tarlok of Assault set. Based on this, I will not bother arguing the other comments made.

This damage can be boosted to 360 with a quick change, but it costs armor, which is needed for running teams through Elites. Even still, it is enough damage that most runs take around 15 minutes at this point in the season.

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[Energizeric]

Elite dungeons are called "elite" for a reason. They are for elite players with the best gear. For others there are the regular dungeons. So if you are using level 35/36 gear and trying to do level 41 elite dungeons, you will have problems. If you are using cheap crate gear you will have problems. That is how it is supposed to be.

[Solid]

Rally cry is a must for warrior running elites.

[Serancha]

Elite dungeons are called "elite" for a reason. They are for elite players with the best gear. For others there are the regular dungeons. So if you are using level 35/36 gear and trying to do level 41 elite dungeons, you will have problems. If you are using cheap crate gear you will have problems. That is how it is supposed to be.

I was just proving the point that it is possible to get decent stats with legendary gear without spending a fortune on level 41 magma gear.

This is an alt character but has never had any issues with elites before, and the new ones I wouldn't run with any character at 40. Not because I can't, but because I respect my teammates enough not to burdon them with a 40.