I dont think i will ever get around to a warrior now

[Arterra]

i got a retired lv 36 Mixcoatl and he is not going anywhere. i need motivation. but i see no future for a bear yet.

[Blaquehaaart]

Roll a strength mage. You can tank, heal, and dps...

[Arterra]

already have one. thats not what im asking for.

[Seratonin]

already have one. thats not what im asking for.

You're asking for a better reason to play a bear then? Right now there is hardly a future for them. But maybe with harder dungeons, they will be useful for crowd control, and boss tanking.

[Lesrider]

You're asking for a better reason to play a bear then? Right now there is hardly a future for them. But maybe with harder dungeons, they will be useful for crowd control, and boss tanking.

That's what we had, and they took it away.

[Seratonin]

That's what we had, and they took it away.

Hopefully they will bring it back with Elite dungeons =p

PS get on and farm with my mage for totems =p

[Rusalio]

Well have to agree, but a bear in my mind is worth having especially if you run with lower levels. Its fun to teach the noobs what a bear offers and crowd control. Personally I have yet to run with an ALL bear team to see how it fairs. They are tanks and powerful ones at that.

[Zeus]

I used to love to be able to join any team and not get booted on my bear with full rift set back when they didn't neuter victory lap. I would join and the entire team would be like, "OMG, Bodyguardz is here, we got a good tank now". Now when I join games, have the time I get booted for the reason: Sorry, bears got neutered and suck now, you are not needed, We would rather replace you with someone else." Funny how things work eh

[Kossi]

delete it, make it into a lv 20 dex bear twink :)

[Phoenixking]

Well bears are reallly useless they really bore u huh arterra u swing a sword the doesnt look cool wen used and use not so cool skills u also ave to get close to the opponent and get hurt now a bear also dies quicker so u really have no motivaition

[rogoku]

only motivation now is to find a good guild then make bear train join guild. They'll use bears alot.

[Wildder]

Good to hear you have goals! :)

[jjjjaaaakkkke]

What's the point of announcing this in public Arterra?

[Steverd]

I also stopped using my level 50 Bear, like most people after they got nerfed.

Now I farm with my lvl 50 Mage.

Steverd

[Blaquehaaart]

I think this is a cry out to devs to buff bears...eh, mele classes are weak in all mmo's...it comes with the territory.

[Lesrider]

Actually, don't melee classes usually pack a hard punch, since their drawback is they can't fight from afar? If they have to get down and dirty with the enemies, there needs to be some incentive. Otherwise, why bother?

[Blaquehaaart]

Nah...other classes usually complain when mele classes get buffed, because of pvp reasons. I don't think it's possible to balance in mmo to suit pvp and pve. Balancing a the classes for pvp will gimp some classes for pve, and vice versa.

When group roles are involved like tanking, healing, and dps it makes sense in pve to give a taking class high single target dps, to keep threat, and give casters decent range damage and aoe damage to keep them versatile. However, with that same formula applied tanks would murder everyone in pvp because they have high armor and can dish out crazy damage. Keep in mind that most people think of pvp in the context of one on one.

Frankly, I think the best way (not perfect) to balance mmos would be to balance the game simply around group play...pvp and pve. I don't think healing classes should be able to heal/buff themselves, but have better and more versatile damage skills and de-buffs. Tanks should have awesome damage...and maneuverability around the board. Frankly, it's overpowered healing that kills mmos...

[TheLaw]

It really depends on what you think, for me, i have like 3 Level50 Bears. 1 for every type, as for all the others. But Bears are only good at 1 type, Strength. Maybe you are used to playing Birds and Mages. I definitely love playing the bear in PvP.

[Blaquehaaart]

Eh, I haven't really seen any epic pvp battles or anything that makes me want to pvp seriously. My experience is just one or two overpowered twinks ruling the board...but maybe that just put a sour taste in my mouth.

[rogoku]

Nah melee in pvp is fair. you can run and fight they can run or fight. They need to get buffed. PvP with melee is lame. Because you can run behind trees and stuff and they die. IMO they need more def.

[Blaquehaaart]

The problem with a lot of mmos, in the context of ranged class with high dps, is auto targeting. Mele classes should be able to dodge by moving out of the way of attacks. Auto targeting allows people to just press a button and get hits from a distance. Mele classes have a range limitation...maybe birds should have dead zones like hunters in Wow. I honestly don't think they thought out the group roles in this game.

[Arterra]

oooo my forgotten thread has returned :)

anyway yea, this is half a question to people whether i should have worked on bear or continued high level farming, and half a statement to devs (NEVER SAY THE 'P' WORD)
in any case, consider the basic foundations of this game: teamwork. I think the dead zone idea is AWESOME. if they are too close, you really shouldn't be able to keep shooting like that.
that would
a) make certain abilities like avian scream actually increadibly ESSENTIAL
b) even out ranged bawssness and make it all fair, and bring it back to the fact that this game STRESSES balanced teamwork. (as in a bear keeping away targets.)

i suppose mages could have no dead zone, but in general since they have uber skills, weak weapons are allowable. honestly, keeper staff in PvP will murder if given more than a second.

[Blaquehaaart]

I can see a class being over powered in one aspect of the game and gimp in the other, but bears are gimp in pvp and pve...it's sooooo sad really.

[Origins]

I went against the norm and just built a full str bear using all pink gear from shadow caves, I find in a group its fun to play but alone I get murdered with out tanking health pots.