PvE, Farming, Capping, Mythics/Arcanes... They're all becoming too mainstream.

[Zylx]

Everyone's all "im saving up for mythics!", "im gonna open a locked crate (+999 more) so i can loot a samael egg!". Everyone's so enthusiastic about obtaining the rarest items in the game that are soon-to-be extinguished by newer items that they go absolutely mad. I've gone through it before, and now, i dont care about getting the best items in the game. Heck, i dont even care about capping this season knowing that nearly everyone else is already lvl 41. It just isnt so cool and special anymore like it was in the last few seasons (i guess too many players nowadays?). So aside from all the rage-farming, crate-crazes, and levelitis-induced comas, im gonna enjoy the game with what i have and go full-on twinking for a while. Take a break from the over-traveled, linear path of success that clouds the meaning of fun and defining it as having absolutely everything. So to my friends: im taking a break from PvE for a while and moving onto non-endgame PvP. If you wanna contact me, ill mostly be on Twinkbane, Brutalpain, Darkattrocity, and Obsolescence (especially Twinkbane).

I posted this here because i wanted to see if anyone else feels the same way, or if im just insane for feeling like this.

[gumball3000]

Good luck and remember its all about having fun so do whatever works best for you.

[Xeusx]

This thread made my day.

[Kellhus]

Its same every season idk why you think this one any different. Other than the fact theres nothing but crap gear to farm with a few exceptions. But i did the same thing last season, capped then went and hid on twink.

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[Serancha]

I find it disappointing how common arcane items are.

It is only what? Just about 3 weeks into the season, and it is already becoming a frequent occurance to find 1 or 2 players with arcane rings in a hunting party and/or pvp match. Everyone and their dog has Samael. All you have to do is head to end game pvp to see it. If there are not at least 4 sams in any given match, along with usually at least 2 mauls, it is a very rare game indeed.

The amount of these items was kept rare when hooks came out - it was uncommon and noteworthy to see a rogue with hooks. With the release of the maul, it was like someone decided that they were going to multiply the drops a whole bunch of times to see what would happen. Just look around - you will see over 10x the number of end game warriors with a maul as you ever saw rogues with hooks. Even now hooks are not common. Arcane staff is getting to be seen almost as often maul now too. Is the ring next?

Arcane was supposed to be rare. Sad that it is now as common as a set of Alps, or a Mighty Berserker of Fitness was in season one.

[keikali]

When the game is getting too boring for you try something else. Whatever keeps you interested in the game is what you should be doing.

Never be a follower, but be a trendsetter.

[Milan Lame Man]

In PvP, you either meet noobs who are checking out what PvP looks like, or armed-to-the-teeth pros.
Also there is a good chance that once someone loots Samael, they keep playing, so over time, pretty much everyone is going to get one.

I wasn't here in the good old times, but I'm pretty sure few people were at the top.
Now every other person is capped for 6+ months, so it's expected that you would meet well geared people a lot.

For the OP, I have all 3 classes, and trying to get mythics and all (PvE) APs for them is going to keep me busy for the months to come. You done that already? Or no likey?

[MetalForce]

Well, as far as "mainstream" goes, of course everyone is saving up for mythics, or trying to get best gear. That's a no brainer. Frequency of certain items is a little intense, but with mythics easily attainable, which will happen to any game that goes on for a long time due to more being dropped, arcane is the new mythic. And why not? I understand in PvP this can be an issue, but the rest of the game is better when mythics and arcanes are more attainable to the average player. They get replaced by new gear eventually, so there's still a goal for players to farm/grind for. Because there's so many players with arcane, there's even more with mythics, and that makes a lot of people happy. Wouldn't it suck if you were 41 and still only had legendaries?

[Candylicks]

Capping is mainstream folks. Don't do it.

Let's make lvl 40 the new lvl 41.

[alexdroog]

Go 21. Good level for twinking.
You will meet me there in a month when i get bored of elite :-)

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[Frekken]

I dunno what's this all about... Really. That "non mainstream" attitude is so mainstream nowadays...

[Temarichan]

Arcane Legends is becoming somehwhat stressful to players whom are wanting to become a powerful player.

I've never played a game with this level of competition and competitiveness tbh, but then again, I don't play many other games.

I can't really explain lol

[epicrrr]

While some bash and antagonize people for being a toon and low level, It is fun playing this game on different perspective rather than the linear path of getting all best items on game which works on others some not so.

[utpal]

i do only bard farming and daily quest. then hv sme chat with frnds. also help some guildies . i come online for 1-2hrs a day only. i dnt do elites as it leads to frustration lol.

it seems i enjoy alot here in AL chating and hav fun with frnds XD then doing elites and getting craps :D

[ClumsyCactus]

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Nah, but seriously though, i understand what you mean :) just do what you think is funny.

[KingChronic]

I am a lvl 41 warrior with only legendaries I started playing 37 days ago and it does suck! Ive givin up on trying elites as people tend to just leave as soon as they check my stats(oh no he has purples run!! Even though I have 6khp and 1800 armor and have played mmos before ex. Runescape, WoW, Rift, LoL.. the list goes on), I would buy mythics if I could make enough money. I got tired of crate farming because of how tedious and boring it gets. Not to mention I don't pay for plat which makes it very VERY time consuming to make money. I just made my first mill the other day and to a newly capped player Endgame seems to be an elitist playground where the rich only play with the other little rich boys to keep power in check. Ill just stick with my twinks at least there its enjoyable warring with other guilds.

[ClumsyCactus]

I am a lvl 41 warrior with only legendaries I started playing 37 days ago and it does suck! Ive givin up on trying elites as people tend to just leave as soon as they check my stats(oh no he has purples run!! Even though I have 6khp and 1800 armor and have played mmos before ex. Runescape, WoW, Rift, LoL.. the list goes on), I would buy mythics if I could make enough money. I got tired of crate farming because of how tedious and boring it gets. Not to mention I don't pay for plat which makes it very VERY time consuming to make money. I just made my first mill the other day and to a newly capped player Endgame seems to be an elitist playground where the rich only play with the other little rich boys to keep power in check. Ill just stick with my twinks at least there its enjoyable warring with other guilds.
Wait Wait Wait... I started playing during the 26 cap and i'm lvl 37... #productivejina

[KingChronic]

Wait Wait Wait... I started playing during the 26 cap and i'm lvl 37... #productivejina
Clearly ive had way to much time on my hands XD and luckily started playing right before the double exp weekend when I still had the drive and motivation to solo grind lvls and maps

[PvE]

*not mainstream* I enjoy pve (not because of my in game or forum name). Keeps me striving for something new. I always farm my gear never buy because that defeats the game in my mind.

[Serancha]

Also there is a good chance that once someone loots Samael, they keep playing, so over time, pretty much everyone is going to get one.


Arcane was advertised to be "the rarest of the rare", so hard to get that you could spend a lifetime and never get one. Sure over time, the numbers of an item will increase, but it only took 2 months before Sam owners were the MAJORITY at end game. Hooks were never ever seen in the kind of numbers that Mauls were within weeks of release. Whim - it was only released for a month, and every second elite party has one. This isn't what Arcane was intended to be originally, and it's a disappointment.

[Kakashis]

I am a lvl 41 warrior with only legendaries I started playing 37 days ago and it does suck! Ive givin up on trying elites as people tend to just leave as soon as they check my stats(oh no he has purples run!! Even though I have 6khp and 1800 armor and have played mmos before ex. Runescape, WoW, Rift, LoL.. the list goes on), I would buy mythics if I could make enough money. I got tired of crate farming because of how tedious and boring it gets. Not to mention I don't pay for plat which makes it very VERY time consuming to make money. I just made my first mill the other day and to a newly capped player Endgame seems to be an elitist playground where the rich only play with the other little rich boys to keep power in check. Ill just stick with my twinks at least there its enjoyable warring with other guilds.

Impressive to make a million in little over a month as a new player! Yes, this season's elites are pretty darn tough making it a turn off when you must burn up to 50k in potions with the possibility of not looting anything. I can see how frustrating it can be to new players. The reason why it's so tough is to keep crate popping rich people happy to make farming worthwhile. At the same time it turns off 80-95% of the rest of the community. You're almost there to a mythic set though!

[Milan Lame Man]

I am a lvl 41 warrior with only legendaries ... I have 6khp and 1800 armor
That's pretty good...

I just made my first mill the other day
Now that's awesome, it took me 35 days just to get Leprechaun amulet. And I do play 5+ hours every day, 16+ on weekends. There were no gems at the time, though.


Hooks were never ever seen in the kind of numbers that Mauls were within weeks of release.
Just look at Ethyl prices. She was at 3k last week. When I started to play, she was like 25k. And she's still a pretty good pet.
This only means one thing: lockeds are being opened A LOT more than before.
Either STS would have to decrease the arcane looting chance even more, which would certainly be counterproductive, or we have to face a never ending stream of arcane items in the CS.

[Xeusx]

I am a lvl 41 warrior with only legendaries I started playing 37 days ago and it does suck! Ive givin up on trying elites as people tend to just leave as soon as they check my stats(oh no he has purples run!! Even though I have 6khp and 1800 armor and have played mmos before ex. Runescape, WoW, Rift, LoL.. the list goes on), I would buy mythics if I could make enough money. I got tired of crate farming because of how tedious and boring it gets. Not to mention I don't pay for plat which makes it very VERY time consuming to make money. I just made my first mill the other day and to a newly capped player Endgame seems to be an elitist playground where the rich only play with the other little rich boys to keep power in check. Ill just stick with my twinks at least there its enjoyable warring with other guilds.
What legendary you using?
I have 6k hp and almost 1.5k armor, do you know what legendary im using? Tarlok set of versatility, devourer maul, and cheap legendary and epic amulet and ring, also i using prance

[Zylx]

Just look at Ethyl prices. She was at 3k last week. When I started to play, she was like 25k. And she's still a pretty good pet.
This only means one thing: lockeds are being opened A LOT more than before.

Usually when something new comes out, the people who first loot it will price it at a ridiculously high amount of gold because they think no on else has looted it and its in high demand. After that, the price gradually deflates due to saturation in the cs. Then when it becomes unavailable, it will slowly inflate back up.

[UndeadJudge]

See, this is the problem with making the best gear available able to be purchased with real money. It's not the kind of "Wow! How long did it take you to loot that!" It's more like, "Open more crates, noob."

[Nawmsayin]

Some people don't have time to farm all day and night to make some change, spending money gives an advantage. STS needs to get paid some how.

If I logged on today to see that no one has an arcane ring or there were only 3 players with samael. It would be a sign to me that it is just way to hard to get any nice pets or a shard from locked crates and the value of these items would be set very high... Which means even more time spent to farm.. I would not open crates.... And boom, sts just lost 1 plat spender. But i do farm and i also open crates every now and then because the hope is still there.

[Origin]

In the early days I don't think as many people opened crates, but many peeps warmed up over the maul period.. and now the Samael/Arcane ring era looks quite like a garden that needs weeding. I share some of ur sentiments, and think going back to gameplay is a good move, good on u. Doesn't seem like u'll miss out on much. Personally I find it hard to expect much from a casual game on a mobile platform, especially if u've done hardcore or competitive gaming. I'm guessing u probably didn't retire from serious mmo so u could come to a 5-button game to get stressed out either (8 if u count pet and pots). :) Well take it easy, have fun.

[Zylx]

One of the things i dont like about some mmos is that "new content" does not actually mean "new gameplay". Sure there's an expansion to the story, a change in setting, raised level cap, and a couple handfulls of new stuff, but that only applies to what we already have, not what we could have. There isn't anything that completely WOWs us in these expansions, their purpose is to just keep players playing. Now dont get me wrong, StS is a brilliant company with a great game, but after a while, it kinda gets repetitive. It was pretty fun for my first several months of playing but after a while, i got bored of catching different fish with the same rod in the same lake. There's just nothing new to how we play. Now, if there were new skills, new types of weapons, new animations, a new leveling system, etc., then it would spice things up a bit and keep people like me playing with the new content. I really want to play AL for a long time to come, but i find it hard to do so when im playing a game the same way as i was a year ago.

[Nitexx]

This is the same problem that every MMO I have ever played will face. On the one hand the company NEEDS to make money to keep itself alive, and usually that is done by allow players to pay to get ahead, be it items or time, etc. In this case, it's items. Which means that with new level caps, new items, new pets, it's an ever escalating arms race until you can finally get that build that will one hit most people, which, unless it has a foil, will destroy the game. I agree with a Zylx that game play in generally may need to be re-thought, with strategic foils put in place, especially for PVP. It's not easy, or it would already be done. Now throw in that the economy also has to kept in check and you can see the difficulty ahead ...

[Roberto077]

It works. Seriously.

[Serancha]

Sts has already announced that they are re-working the skill system. This kind of thing takes time though. If you want new content and fundamental game changes, you can not have them all at once. Sts is not a massive company, to my knowledge, and these fine devs need to have time to do the job well. Development is so often misunderstood by the impatient. It takes time, patience and a whole lot of testing and debugging before anything can be released to the public. And once it is, there is more debugging, as nothing is ever the same when scaled from dev testing to thousands of users all at once.

[Zylx]

Im not asking for everything at once. Im asking for something completely new and innovative every now and then. Like when PvP was implemented. It added something actually new to the game. Plus, these expansions seem strictly PvE. Nothing new to PvP or Socialization.

[Anarchist]

Everyone's all "im saving up for mythics!", "im gonna open a locked crate (+999 more) so i can loot a samael egg!". Everyone's so enthusiastic about obtaining the rarest items in the game that are soon-to-be extinguished by newer items that they go absolutely mad. I've gone through it before, and now, i dont care about getting the best items in the game. Heck, i dont even care about capping this season knowing that nearly everyone else is already lvl 41. It just isnt so cool and special anymore like it was in the last few seasons (i guess too many players nowadays?). So aside from all the rage-farming, crate-crazes, and levelitis-induced comas, im gonna enjoy the game with what i have and go full-on twinking for a while. Take a break from the over-traveled, linear path of success that clouds the meaning of fun and defining it as having absolutely everything. So to my friends: im taking a break from PvE for a while and moving onto non-endgame PvP. If you wanna contact me, ill mostly be on Twinkbane, Brutalpain, Darkattrocity, and Obsolescence (especially Twinkbane).

I posted this here because i wanted to see if anyone else feels the same way, or if im just insane for feeling like this.

I understand your fustration.
It seems you too also noticed what the "new itemization system" really means.


Goodluck Zylx :)

[Aneheazatek]

Maliath , add my twink , ign superzhen :)

I understand your fustration.
It seems you too also noticed what the "new itemization system" really means.


Goodluck Zylx :)