CtF Reform

[Solid]

Is CtF actually CtF?

Does everyone know what CtF stand for? - Capture the Flag

Does AL's 'CtF' actually involve fighting to defend or capture the flag? - Obviously not.
AL's CtF consists of gaining kills and deaths, flags are done for the luxury of an AP.

To fix this fake 'CtF' mode, I think that there is a solution.

Every time your teammate scores a flag, you get a flag added to your stats, BUT every time the enemy scores a flag - a flag is subtracted from your stats.

This would motivate players to actually flag and defend their flag resulting in an actual 'CtF' match.

Thoughts?

[Bless]

That's a really competitive way of encourage old CTF and remove free flagging. I like it.

[Candylicks]

I have heard many ctf'ers complain about this issue, sounds like a good suggestion.

[Solid]

I have heard many ctf'ers complain about this issue, sounds like a good suggestion.

Truth is, no one is a ctf'er they are tdm'ers in CtF

[Candylicks]

Ya it was same in pl. We all just killed each other and the real ctf'ers yelled and asked us to leave. Idk what the solution is here but the Aps perpetuate the issue for Al.

At least you are opening up the door for some suggestions, I hope they are taken into consideration. Pvp needs revamp here for sure, starting with ctf.

[Gameplay]

Is CtF actually CtF?

Does everyone know what CtF stand for? - Capture the Flag

Does AL's 'CtF' actually involve fighting to defend or capture the flag? - Obviously not.
AL's CtF consists of gaining kills and deaths, flags are done for the luxury of an AP.

To fix this fake 'CtF' mode, I think that there is a solution.

Every time your teammate scores a flag, you get a flag added to your stats, BUT every time the enemy scores a flag - a flag is subtracted from your stats.

This would motivate players to actually flag and defend their flag resulting in an actual 'CtF' match.

Thoughts?

sounds like a very solid idea, will give some people motivation to "CTF" i think, lets say its 5v5 and blue scores a flag would the flag be subtracted from everybody on the red side?

[Classychic]

Im curious as to how this will affect the current leaderboards. If implemented, then the people who have maxed APs will likely stay on top for as long as they stay ingame to get the new achievements.


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[Deadprezz]

1+ ! best way to end free flaging

[Hiosahaf]

What if someone has 0 flags? Not a bad thought though, really amazing.

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[Solid]

What if someone has 0 flags? Not a bad thought though, really amazing.

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If someone has 0 flags, then they will begin their CtF experience the legitimate way, with an actual CtF game type.

[Hiosahaf]

If someone has 0 flags, then they will begin their CtF experience the legitimate way, with an actual CtF game type.

Yes, I know that.. I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. It's a great idea and I completely support it.

You say that one flag will be deducted if the opposition scores.. so if someone has 0 and then the opposition scores?

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[Kellhus]

I wish theyd bring king of the ring like in DL. Good fun.

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[Vixenne]

I wish theyd bring king of the ring like in DL. Good fun.

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Yeah that was pretty fun actually.

[Foebegone]

I don't PvP much but it would be nice instead of kills/deaths or flags to just have games won in CTF and games won in tdm.

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[Cero]

It is a good suggestion but it still doesnt solve the kill/death in ctf.
If devs want so even if many people will cry, the best solution is to change ctf kill/death to win/lose plus flag counts.



Kill : 1m. --- Win : 10
Death: 0 --- Lose: 10
Flag : 2k --- Flag: 3

[Energizeric]

The problem with this suggestion is that it will result in people leaving games when it becomes obvious they are on the losing side. So games will empty out really fast.

I solution is to add a new stats called "Team Wins" and "Team Losses". Here is how it works:

1) If you leave a game in the middle and your team wins, you do NOT get a win.

2) If you leave a game in the middle and your team loses, you DO get a loss

3) If you join a game in the middle and your team is already losing, then you do NOT get a loss if your team ends up losing

4) If you join a game in the middle and your team wins, then you DO get a win (unless you leave before it ends)


This will encourage team work, and will encourage players not to leave during a game even if their team is behind.

[Farz]

The problem with this suggestion is that it will result in people leaving games when it becomes obvious they are on the losing side. So games will empty out really fast.

I solution is to add a new stats called "Team Wins" and "Team Losses". Here is how it works:

1) If you leave a game in the middle and your team wins, you do NOT get a win.

2) If you leave a game in the middle and your team loses, you DO get a loss

3) If you join a game in the middle and your team is already losing, then you do NOT get a loss if your team ends up losing

4) If you join a game in the middle and your team wins, then you DO get a win (unless you leave before it ends)


This will encourage team work, and will encourage players not to leave during a game even if their team is behind.

Solid.

[valheeru]

another thing i would love it see is assist flags , that will increase teamwork now everyone just stands in q to pick flag

[Endkey]

another thing i would love it see is assist flags , that will increase teamwork now everyone just stands in q to pick flag

That will be kinda hard to implement...

over all with energizerics suggestions and ctfs idea...i guess this can work

[epicrrr]

Everybody gang the flagger lol,this could work needs a lot of feedback; and a good planning this could enhance or totally destroy the PVP scene. We at low level dont really care so if this gets implemented i suggest only 40-41 (endgame).

[Foebegone]

Everybody gang the flagger lol,this could work needs a lot of feedback; and a good planning this could enhance or totally destroy the PVP scene. We at low level dont really care so if this gets implemented i suggest only 40-41 (endgame).

That's kinda the idea of CTF, its meant to be tactical and require teamwork.

And on the point of ppl leaving match if they think they will lose, just make it a loss if you leave the match even if your winning or losing. Ppl will cry over DC s but that will be a minority.

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[Milan Lame Man]

BUT every time the enemy scores a flag - a flag is subtracted from your stats.

It won't really work with negative numbers.
What if someone has 100 or whatever flags AP and lose some? Do they lose the AP?

Also I believe your idea is a negative-sum game, so over time, everyone would be at or below zero flags, unless 5v1 farming is organized.


This would motivate players to actually flag and defend their flag resulting in an actual 'CtF' match.

The solution you are looking for is to remove CTF kill counts from character's stats. It's CTF, not deathmatch. Life looses should not count as long as objective is reached.

It is possible to add "deathmatch in crypts" to keep killers happy.

[Solid]

It won't really work with negative numbers.
What if someone has 100 or whatever flags AP and lose some? Do they lose the AP?

Also I believe your idea is a negative-sum game, so over time, everyone would be at or below zero flags, unless 5v1 farming is organized.



The solution you are looking for is to remove CTF kill counts from character's stats. It's CTF, not deathmatch. Life looses should not count as long as objective is reached.

It is possible to add "deathmatch in crypts" to keep killers happy.

Did you even read my post....

[Zylx]

In addition to that, add a separate PvP mode with as similar a map to CtF's. One of the reasons i like CtF's map (probably not alone) is that i dont have a giant OP troll chasing me around such a wide-open zone while im fighting. But i agree. CtF should actually be Capture the Flag, not Cease the Feeble.

[Milan Lame Man]

Did you even read my post....
Yes, it is hard to multi-quote without actually reading.
Can you be more specific?