What Trade-Able Elixir Kits Will Do To The Economy

[OtAtOtomustam]

With the addition of trade-able elixir kits we will see a dramatic decrease in price on any farmable high end legendary gear/locked crates. This now opens the door for everyone to effectively farm with increased stats and luck which will make their elite runs FAR easier and locked farming runs (KM3, Jarl, etc) yield significantly more results thus flooding the market with additional legendary items/locked crates that would have otherwise been attained with much more difficulty.


What can you do?

Wait it out and purchase while prices are low. Initially I speculate that we will see the most dramatic drops within the first few days after about 3-5 days the market will begin to stabilize itself. Hang onto those locked crates UNTIL STS releases their new Mythic items as the demand for locked crates will SKY ROCKET like we have not seen since halloween only this time it will be compounded even more so by the fact that multiple new Mythic weapons AND Armor will be released (not just weapons like during the halloween event) when these new Mythic are released we should see locked crates reach a minimum price of 30K if not higher.

**This is a speculative post**

[Solid]

Not really, price is determine by supply AS WELL AS demand. IF the supply is higher than the demand - then yes the price will fall highly unlikely though.

What tradeable elixers really did was make AL close to a legit free to play.

[Titanfall]

Lol they won't sky rocket as high as you think they will. The crate openers buy the crates while they are cheap and open them during special events to save ALOT of money. this hoarding tactic isn't worth the time.

[Zeus]

First off, posting tips on how to profit usually results in it not working because then everybody is attempting that tactic.

Secondly, I agree with pretty much everything else.

[Waheedski]

Where exactly is this elixir chest ? I scouted the store but only found plat purchases. Can't find the lix chest, is it in operation yet ?

[Bigboyblue]

The lepragoblin(not sure what its darn name was) shows what happens to prices when elixirs are available to everyone. Locks dropped in price by 20% or so. This should not have as dramatic of an effect because you still have to pay for the elixirs. Serious farmers will definitely buy these and it may affect higher end items a bit more severely than locks. Going to be interesting.

[Tendirin]

true... but sts is doing it right

[FluffNStuff]

Spend 12K for chance to loot a 12K item? Explain to me again how these are going to crash the price of locks?

[OtAtOtomustam]

It will increase the supply of locked crates into the market along with increasing the supply of higher end legendary items. This increase in supply wont be able to meet the demand of the market, at least not at this point in time. This will cause the prices of both to drop.

[Bigboyblue]

Spend 12K for chance to loot a 12K item? Explain to me again how these are going to crash the price of locks?

I would assume that locks will not crash 20% like they did before. Maybe 10%. The more people farming with luck the more crates found. More crates means cheaper prices. Just basing this off of the St. Pattys day event. However everyone had reroll elixir during that time. Not sure how many people will buy them. If I hadn't just bought plat I would lol. Half an hour of reroll usually yields 3-4 locks. Well worth spending 12k to make 39-52k. 27-40k profit.

[Xpolosion]

Lmao agreed

[Bless]

First off, posting tips on how to profit usually results in it not working because then everybody is attempting that tactic.
This!

Another is locked crate prices at new expansions...well if everyone hoards their locks beforehand then of course prices won't skyrocket.

[Ravager]

Prices will drop for legendaries and below.

[falmear]

Prices will fall on locked and eggs. Mostly this will kill easily farmable items. Those things that are hard to farm the prices won't fluctuate that much. In 30 minutes you can farm 2-3 locked in km3. Also people stack elixirs with combo.

[Zeus]

Prices will fall on locked and eggs. Mostly this will kill easily farmable items. Those things that are hard to farm the prices won't fluctuate that much. In 30 minutes you can farm 2-3 locked in km3. Also people stack elixirs with combo.

Agreed!

To add on to what Falmear said: not everybody can waste 10k each run for elites, especially when you factor in pot usage and other things. The people that this luck crate benefits is the hardcore farmers. For others, it's just another money drain for a chance to loot nothing.

Remember, elite tindirin runs can take 15-25 minutes, depending on the map. So, that means that you're basically putting in a 10k investment every run or every other run which adds up really quick.

[Classychic]

I've only seen a 1~1.5k drop in crate prices so far. And may I add that it is looking to e quite difficult to maximize the elixirs when you have lots of crates in your inventory. It won't work well for opening before killing the boss in elites, you're sure to die before you can finally find the kit after scrolling down. Guess you have to use the kit before starting on the boss if you want that extra 25%. I really hope sts adds a search function to the inventory.


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[falmear]

More people who get luck elixirs as opposed to farming just with lep means more chances. More chances equals more drops across the entire game. Easily farmable stuff will be hit hardest because more people will run those. Stuff thats hard to farm, those people are already using luck or combo or both. So its not going to change much. The other side of the coin is STS nerfs drops because too much stuff is dropping. There is no free lunch and there is no such thing as free to play. Read this article which is basically in defense of free to play:

http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/9/5597062/snobbery-and-fear-drive-ethical-criticisms-of-free-to-play-games

Also read the comments section and you get an idea how what STS is thinking about.

[stackz]

Why isn't the xp elixer sell able? This would be a huge plat boom for sets if it was trade able....its the only one lol.

Boo sts!!! Boooo!!!!

[Temarichan]

I couldn't really beleive that STS actually released these types of "packs". I was immediately overwhelmed by the thought: "now everyone can farm whenever they want to by simply buying a pack from the auction!"

Hopefully, STS knows what they're doing and that it's intentional...

I'd like to see how this all turns out

[Tendirin]

Actually i think its cool how they made the packs im sorry but it probaly wont effect the prices so many people can't be thankful over things if only you knew how hard it was to make in game items

[Madnex]

I'm opposed to this point of view. With the price of reroll kits at 12-14k each --which is essentially the price of one locked atm-- well, there certainly be an increase of the lockeds flow in the market but nothing phenomenal. A good part of the supply is coming from people who are in the zone of saving on potions and waiting for klaas reroll elixir to make 30-40k so no, I don't see this overflowing the market.

Platinum spenders hoarding crates is old news - the new incoming mythics have been announced long enough ago for any reasonable crate poppers to be stocked or close to that by now. I'm seeing a smaller case of Tindirin expansion landing-period, where locks dropped 20% simply because everyone had been stocking way too many. A potential increase --in case the new mythic amulets are that exceptional-- won't reach higher than 2-3k on average.

Valuable pinks are already dropping as more and more get the hang of new elite maps. It looks like people are expecting another batch of improved legendaries which won't happen, so that may halter the price drop once they realize it. Mythic armor won't happen either.

However, these are just calculated speculations - market is influenced by many factors we cannot predict.

[ClumsyCactus]

With the addition of trade-able elixir kits we will see a dramatic decrease in price on any farmable high end legendary gear/locked crates. This now opens the door for everyone to effectively farm with increased stats and luck which will make their elite runs FAR easier and locked farming runs (KM3, Jarl, etc) yield significantly more results thus flooding the market with additional legendary items/locked crates that would have otherwise been attained with much more difficulty.



What can you do?

Wait it out and purchase while prices are low. Initially I speculate that we will see the most dramatic drops within the first few days after about 3-5 days the market will begin to stabilize itself. Hang onto those locked crates UNTIL STS releases their new Mythic items as the demand for locked crates will SKY ROCKET like we have not seen since halloween only this time it will be compounded even more so by the fact that multiple new Mythic weapons AND Armor will be released (not just weapons like during the halloween event) when these new Mythic are released we should see locked crates reach a minimum price of 30K if not higher.

**This is a speculative post**
What i will say is Just my nooby opinion... And a few questions...
1. Is it even confirmed that they are gone release mythic armor?
2. If i remember correctly the prices on locks during halloween increased with just a little?
And also, nothing of what u just Said is logic, because the market is determined by how badly people want a specific item. And since people seem to want lockeds i guess that they will barely sink in price at all. Again, just my opinion. And i'm not even that active in the economy XD

[uunknownn]

thanks sts for this:) yes it may lower the cost of every item maybe 10% but id rather this happen yhan farming item likevim so hopeless.this came from a farmer like me who farming for two weeks but no single pinks drop on me.

[Energizeric]

My opinion is we will never again see 30k locked crates. We saw this during the first mythic weapons weekend during season 4. Not only were we told these weapons would only be available for a limited time, but we were also told they would drop with a much higher frequency, which they did. But that alone is not what made the crates go up in price so much. What did was that this was the first time we had ever had new "limited time" items introduced to crates and was also the first time we had a double odds weekend.

Prior to that weekend, nobody ever thought of hoarding locked crates, so when crate openers began opening tons of crates that weekend, the supply of them ran out. I can remember looking in the auction and seeing 5 locked crates for sale when normally there are a few hundred. So prices kept going up and I think they reached around 50k each before the weekend ended.

Now everyone always anticipates this, so people hoard, and when the special double odds/mythic weapon weekends happen, the supply is available to meet the demand, and prices do not really go up very much.

I still do like these special locked crates weekends though. I think they give a nice boost to the AL economy. It gives regular players the chance to make some money by selling locked crates for slightly more money than normal, and it creates a surplus of mythic and arcane items, which helps to bring down the prices of those expensive items a bit so that more people can afford them. The price drop is only temporary, so there are no permanent effects to the economy except some fun for everyone.

[utpal]

luck and speed elix will be bought mostly.
as speed and luck both needed in km3.

in elite all can jst open tht luck kit when boss hp low. thus price of elite items and archon will dropped more. and maybe lep price will also be dropped

[Anarchist]

With the addition of trade-able elixir kits we will see a dramatic decrease in price on any farmable high end legendary gear/locked crates. This now opens the door for everyone to effectively farm with increased stats and luck which will make their elite runs FAR easier and locked farming runs (KM3, Jarl, etc) yield significantly more results thus flooding the market with additional legendary items/locked crates that would have otherwise been attained with much more difficulty.


What can you do?

Wait it out and purchase while prices are low. Initially I speculate that we will see the most dramatic drops within the first few days after about 3-5 days the market will begin to stabilize itself. Hang onto those locked crates UNTIL STS releases their new Mythic items as the demand for locked crates will SKY ROCKET like we have not seen since halloween only this time it will be compounded even more so by the fact that multiple new Mythic weapons AND Armor will be released (not just weapons like during the halloween event) when these new Mythic are released we should see locked crates reach a minimum price of 30K if not higher.

**This is a speculative post**
I agree.

But i don't think the new legenadries will drop faster than they are going down now on the other hand easily farmable things will drop. Lockeds might even go down as 10-11k.

[Haligali]

Now need respec and revive bundles and i swear i dont ever buy platinum again. Heh

[Waheedski]

Where exactly is this elixir chest ? I scouted the store but only found plat purchases. Can't find the lix chest, is it in operation yet ?

It's ok folks I found them, I was having a dumb moment. I knew you all where concerned about me not finding the stuff *cough* :)

[keikali]

More people who get luck elixirs as opposed to farming just with lep means more chances. More chances equals more drops across the entire game. Easily farmable stuff will be hit hardest because more people will run those. Stuff thats hard to farm, those people are already using luck or combo or both. So its not going to change much. The other side of the coin is STS nerfs drops because too much stuff is dropping. There is no free lunch and there is no such thing as free to play. Read this article which is basically in defense of free to play:

http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/9/5597062/snobbery-and-fear-drive-ethical-criticisms-of-free-to-play-games

Also read the comments section and you get an idea how what STS is thinking about.

This is correct. Legendary Pinks that drop from Elite Maps (Magma Items) will drop, but not by alot. Mainly because the people who farm these maps before these Elixirs were introduced ALREADY buy Elixirs via Plat so there is not a big change there. There are not alot of people who are willing to take the time to farm these mainly because of the organization required.

However, farming crates in KM3, Jarl, etc. is MUCH easier for them along with other easier maps like Mali etc. These will slowly see a significant drop in pricing.

[Zylx]

I dont see a very big change with the locked crate pricing. Even though these kits have been made available to non-plat users, there is still a demand. Locked crates have an interesting sales pattern in relation to other items. People arent always trying to bid each other up. If you price a locked crate lower than the lowest price, then you're either desperate, or are unfamiliar with the cs. There will always be people buying crates, so by setting a price within 2k above the lowest price, you'd still be able to sell it in a few hours. A lot of people do that. It's actually a popular merching strategy. Back on topic: Locked crates will always be in demand. Their prices shouldnt be drastically changed. There are still lots of lazy players out there, and crates are still a pretty rare drop, even with a luck buff. Although these kits are becoming a pretty good platinum to gold conversion (last i checked, 1:3,000 instead of 1:1000) making plat users richer..

[Anarchist]

I dont see a very big change with the locked crate pricing. Even though these kits have been made available to non-plat users, there is still a demand. Locked crates have an interesting sales pattern in relation to other items. People arent always trying to bid each other up. If you price a locked crate lower than the lowest price, then you're either desperate, or are unfamiliar with the cs. There will always be people buying crates, so by setting a price within 2k above the lowest price, you'd still be able to sell it in a few hours. A lot of people do that. It's actually a popular merching strategy. Back on topic: Locked crates will always be in demand. Their prices shouldnt be drastically changed. There are still lots of lazy players out there, and crates are still a pretty rare drop, even with a luck buff. Although these kits are becoming a pretty good platinum to gold conversion (last i checked, 1:3,000 instead of 1:1000) making plat users richer..

I think the only reason why locked crates is still holding its ground and not falling down is because everyone is feeling in the air the presence or the pressumed presence of a mythic weekend. So not many players are actually selling the lockeds they loot with lix or they already had but they keep on hoarding more.

[Sheener]

First off, posting tips on how to profit usually results in it not working because then everybody is attempting that tactic.

Secondly, I agree with pretty much everything else.

This.

[Zylx]

I think the only reason why locked crates is still holding its ground and not falling down is because everyone is feeling in the air the presence or the pressumed presence of a mythic weekend. So not many players are actually selling the lockeds they loot with lix or they already had but they keep on hoarding more.

Some of those people who hoard crates stock them up so they can actually open them up on said weekend. Everyone's using that tactic to sell them on mythic weekend. Not too many crates will be bought for such a high price. And to those crate-poppers, the probability of looting a mythic is like 0.1%. Double that would be 0.2%. Your odds are still terrible. :)

[Maalice]

I thinkbits a great idea. Everyone deserves the same chance at drops.