Contest of Arcane Legends

[leojnv]

I wonder why always the rich people win contests?

contests are always "easy" can be said, but for weak people who do not have much gold is too difficult, a clear example would be this:

Arcane ring contest: Day 11: April 3, 2014 - 9:00 PM cdt - All 6 New Pets (Singe, Scorch, Scorn, Spitfire, Shadowlurk, Wurmtongue), people who do not have gold to buy these new pets no they could do that day by the issue of having these new pets that cost a lot of gold.

see what I'm getting at? that's one of the reasons which never participated in the contests.

because rich people always win, those who do not need such arcane ring for example, take advantage of poor people and do not give them a chance to win so they can advance in the game.

in my opinion SpacetimeStudios want rich people even richer becomes instead the poor to stay poor. -.-

Thanks for reading this

[Serancha]

Seriously, all you had to do was go to Paradise Pier and wait around for the pets to be present. People were running around with the contest pets all day, just to help others out. I was one of them.

This seems like a thread of a player who doesn't want to bother earning gold, and just wants everything for free. Why are you poor? There are hundreds of mythic players who have never spent a single dollar on plat. I know because I have a guild full of them. Whining about things being unfair because you don't have gold is just anouncing you're too lazy to bother. Sorry, but this is just honesty. There is no excuse for someone to be poor in this game. Not everyone can be an arcane player, but everyone should be able to make enough to at least buy basic gear, a pet, and potions. Daily quests get you that much.

[leojnv]

lol have a service that you can spend a day waiting for that, with all due respect I tell you this

[Ishtmeet]

Singe Rescue's 3 random winners and Jester Vanity Contest is a great example. +1 leojnv

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[Ishtmeet]

Serancha I understand u.. and in this thread I only love" The famous plat spenders always win contest".

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[Morholt]

It is a contest. Not a giveaway. There is a difference. This isn't little league. Not everyone gets a trophy for participating.

Day 11? I did that without owning a single one of those pets.

[Ishtmeet]

Morholt if you have good guild, friends it is easy. But what about some of those who dont have any of these? Will they say everyone can u summon ur pet so i take a pic? And being called beggars?

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[Shanamerny]

I agree with Serancha here..many ppl were in town with their pets out for that day (including myself). The day with pic of scorn? I stood in town for 1 hour helping guildies who could join me and others from town. They didn't say, buy this pet and take a pic..just to take a pic with it. There are many people who are not plat users or rich and still found a way to post up even the most difficult challenge in these pics. Unless you tried all of your options, you're just ranting on forums :/ sorry but true

[Bigboyblue]

I did multiple pics in expedition camp. Sat there for less than a half an hour for the 6 pets shot and the 6 titles shot. Took a little bit of time but it was possible for everyone. The only thing that wasn't possible was for low lvl characters to complete all 20 days. If you are over lvl 34 there is no reason you couldn't have entered everyday with a bit of effort on those hard days.

[ClumsyCactus]

Lol if you are so mad about loosing in a contest, just don't enter it and you won't have to bother.

[Fyrce]

I jumped to several of the towns. Within about 10-15 minutes, you had all the pets. All you had to do was listen to the people telling you to take the screenshot NOW!

Same with the titles.

If you were a bit more creative, you run around towns remembering who has the rarest pets, then go into a tavern and invite them all. Taverns also had lots of people with the new pets gathering.

In other words, meet your fellow players. Discover the world. That sort of thing.

(I stood in towns and taverns for several hours on each of those days, switching pets, titles, and saw many others doing the same. As I've posted before, those town meets were beautiful to watch -- the whole community coming together, so many great people)

[Morholt]

Morholt if you have good guild, friends it is easy. But what about some of those who dont have any of these? Will they say everyone can u summon ur pet so i take a pic? And being called beggars?

Sent from my GT-S7562 using TapatalkFrom the very beginning, I believe it was Delphina who said, "this contest is going to require you to get help from friends and guildmates to complete all the challenges."

Also...remember...it's a contest. Not a giveaway. You have to 'compete' to some extent. If it was so that EVERYONE could be in the drawing to be randomly picked...why bother with the whole 20 days of screenshots? At that point...it should just be sts randomly awarding an arcane ring to an account. And where is the fun in that?

[Ishtmeet]

I got all the pets excpt singe and I helped a lot of people in screenshot myself. I know who will win. No new name so I didn't bothered to entered a silly contest.

[GuardianTwo]

I agree with the thread that only rich player gets richer in these contests . I also got some rude people who just teleported away when I asked plz help with ss didn't even replied "I gtg" anything like that. But I was too much lucky since got very helpful Guildies with their help I got those 2 most difficult ss (6 diff title and pets ) in almost 1/2hr after getting online. But still I think what if there were lesser pets to get like only five other except that singe /wurmtongue/shadowlurk since they were most difficult to get at that time and for that title just that warmonger was most difficult ! It could have been helpful to those not having a nice guild nor rich friends ...

[Shanamerny]

I agree with the thread that only rich player gets richer in these contests . I also got some rude people who just teleported away when I asked plz help with ss didn't even replied "I gtg" anything like that. But I was too much lucky since got very helpful Guildies with their help I got those 2 most difficult ss (6 diff title and pets ) in almost 1/2hr after getting online. But still I think what if there were lesser pets to get like only five other except that singe /wurmtongue/shadowlurk since they were most difficult to get at that time and for that title just that warmonger was most difficult ! It could have been helpful to those not having a nice guild nor rich friends ...

It wouldn't be a challenge if it wasn't a bit difficult.

[GuardianTwo]

It wouldn't be a challenge if it wasn't a bit difficult.

I am not saying to remove all those pets just one of them , thus there will be atleast less burden to find 3 rich people who r nice .... And yes these other 2 pets are also difficult to get at that time.
And for title what if the warmonger title was replaced by some title which is difficult to get but not only rich people havong it ? Yes I agree if warmonger is removed it would be very easy ss.
Edit: And I liked that ss of maneater with 10 minions and taking ss at a certain place... These are like challenge. And those ss of stahl in arena and with gold chest and tooth without gear are like challenging (+luck) . These are equally difficult (and easy) for all kind of players. Not like those ss with 6 new pets in which one should be rich or should have rich friend. Or just lucky to get someone like Serancha in some town.

[Anarchist]

As for the ring contest a 1 day discount has already been giving and that is more than enough.

As for the rich always winning this is not true in numerous contest i have seen a large quantity of average players also winning.

Most of the "poor" players you mentioned are poor cause they are casual and have no deep interest in the game so they don't even partecipate in contests talkless register on forum.

The majority of players on forums that partecipate actively in contests and brainstormings are most certainly those who have a good interest in the game and aren't from the noob and poor class, this is probably what makes it appear as if the rich always win: the simple fact there are more rich and average players on forum compaired to the poor ones. The vast majority of the poor players prefer to play the game just the way it gets to their device.

[Counterhit ph]

Singe Rescue's 3 random winners and Jester Vanity Contest is a great example. +1 leojnv

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Agree. i was going to comment these.
They said they choose it ramdomly but why do always arcane players always win.

[Xeusx]

Agree. i was going to comment these.
They said they choose it ramdomly but why do always arcane players always win.
Its a random...
They use RNG (Random Number Generator) for choosing winners...
Jester vanity contest is a contest that are using RNG
And, singe contest is a contest that mods/devs choosing the winners..

[utpal]

when i log in AL it got me directly to paradise (coz last time i was there wheb i log off) and saw most of ppl with any of these 6pets. u need only luck and patience by jumping between paradise and expedition lol

[nickaizoku]

Well im poor too..i dont have those pet. but seriously. Here arcane legend community is generous. As long as u ask properly and get their permission. Im sure they who those have that pet willing to take screenshot with you.
if someone that dont want Im sure theres alot more.
That how I got my screenshot. :) keep trying buddy. Alot good and awesome player here.

[Serancha]

"The famous plat spenders always win contest".



Not all people with well known names are plat spenders. And there are very few people I know who are famous FOR spending plat. So either way, this appears to be a generalization for all "well known" players. (I also suspect in this case "plat spender" actually means "crate popper").

Unless they are a personal friend or guildmate, or running around bragging, there is no real way to know if someone spends plat or earns gold to buy their items. Many many people get mythic and arcane items without spending real money.

I don't get the derogatory attitude some people have about plat people anyways. Remember these people are the ones who pay so you can play for free. If anything you should cheer when they win something, because it might encourage them to chip in for more development.

[deathwraithx]

Not all people with well known names are plat spenders. And there are very few people I know who are famous FOR spending plat. So either way, this appears to be a generalization for all "well known" players. (I also suspect in this case "plat spender" actually means "crate popper").

Unless they are a personal friend or guildmate, or running around bragging, there is no real way to know if someone spends plat or earns gold to buy their items. Many many people get mythic and arcane items without spending real money.

I don't get the derogatory attitude some people have about plat people anyways. Remember these people are the ones who pay so you can play for free. If anything you should cheer when they win something, because it might encourage them to chip in for more development.

I don't think they have a problem with plat spenders. But when plat starts to seem to give advantage to people beyond the game, then they have a problem. :)



Plat spenders are crucial to this game and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about

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[gaararhen]

Chances of winning

Rich people - 90%

Poor to Average people - 10%

[Anarchist]

I choose not believe the contests are hand picked but i would also like to see that famous RnG cause this time it wasn't added to the winners thread.
I would also like to finally see a contest were i know nobody among the winners. Like "who is this dude that won".

Cause in every darn single contest there is alwsys a darn famous winner. And he or she doesn't win the lowest prize but the best.

This just a observation though, theoretical BS.



#wheretheRnG?

[Anarchist]

A good way to remove doubts would be making a video or streaming when the winners are sorted out. :)

[GuardianTwo]

I don't get the derogatory attitude some people have about plat people anyways. Remember these people are the ones who pay so you can play for free. If anything you should cheer when they win something, because it might encourage them to chip in for more development.

Ok so according to you plat spender rich people should be the most winning people in these contests. But what if we just think one scenario : Let normal but hardworking people be the people winning most contest (in eg 3:1 odds just eg ) then for rich people who have not got that shard ring (just eg) will pop crates use plats for getting that shard or ring thus more profit. And what now is happening, plat spender/rich people getting shard or ring in contest so they doesn't need to pop crate use plats for it(if they have still not found before the contest) so less profit since other people are obviously willing to get item but yet obviously they are not plat spender so they won't pop crates thus less profit. And if they(rich/plat spender) already have got that thing and they are already rich and now they will sell that thing for much much gold and just accumulate gold.

What are your thoughts about it?
(Plz I have no hatred towards any of them I am just saying. No offence plz.)

[Serancha]

That is not what I said. Read the rest of my post. Selective quoting is inaccurate.

The contests are not rigged. Random number generators do not have IQ's to say "pick the rich person's post". It is luck of the draw. I am a normal, hardworking person. I earned my gear by farming and selling everything I found. It took me over 10 months to get enough together to buy Sam, but I don't feel I have more of a right to win a contest than someone who spent hundreds of actual dollars to pop crates for their gear.

In any case, are you saying plat players should not be allowed to participate in contests because they got big-ticket items sooner than you? The whole concept of the game is that you can get anything by hard work, and if you spend real money you can likely get it sooner.

Should they make all the good contests for non-paying customers only? Should the paying customers have a lower chance to win? I'm sorry, but the argument does not make any sense whatsoever.

[deathwraithx]

That is not what I said. Read the rest of my post. Selective quoting is inaccurate.

The contests are not rigged. Random number generators do not have IQ's to say "pick the rich person's post". It is luck of the draw. I am a normal, hardworking person. I earned my gear by farming and selling everything I found. It took me over 10 months to get enough together to buy Sam, but I don't feel I have more of a right to win a contest than someone who spent hundreds of actual dollars to pop crates for their gear.

In any case, are you saying plat players should not be allowed to participate in contests because they got big-ticket items sooner than you? The whole concept of the game is that you can get anything by hard work, and if you spend real money you can likely get it sooner.

Should they make all the good contests for non-paying customers only? Should the paying customers have a lower chance to win? I'm sorry, but the argument does not make any sense whatsoever.

Only thing that was said was once you win a big ticket prize you should be put on hold for the next few contests,you interpreted it wrong :)


And plat players having an advantage is absolutely irrefutable. But suggesting that that should give them advantages that move forward from acquiring items/gold faster to an edge on forum competitions is a little weird don't you think?

And everyone knows that random number generators are used but when the winners are popular plat spenders so many times,it kinda looks suspicious. I'm not saying it is,I'm just telling you what it looks like.

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[baddiva]

day 11 is a hard challenge... I know what it feels... :) I gve up on that

[Yakiniku]

Lol, talk about sour grapes.

But if people are going to be too bitter to enter future contests because they lost out on this one, then hey that's better odds for the rest of us. :)

[LordDravek]

Hmm... I can see the point of this thread, but I can also see where it fails.

1. First resource problem: No guild wants a noob. So the idea of joining a guild with helpful players is out the window. Not to mention, most of these top guilds stay within their cliche.

2. This 'run around town and find people to help idea' is next to non-existent. There's a limited amount of players who are willing to help new people because of all the scammers, beggers, and short-term players.

So... yes. I can see where low level players have a limited chance during contests.

My motto for any new players: Put in the time, Enjoy the prime. Otherwise... movest along thou short-term children.

[Rare]

Chances of winning

Rich people - 90%

Poor to Average people - 10%

I'm average and I've won two contests.


Let normal but hardworking people be the people winning most contest (in eg 3:1 odds just eg ) then for rich people who have not got that shard ring (just eg) will pop crates use plats for getting that shard or ring thus more profit.

Again, you're making some bold assumptions. Just because you see someone's name on the forums or they are active in the game doesn't make them "rich". I have never been "rich" in this game because I choose not to dedicate and inordinate amount of time or money to it. However, I have been playing STS games for a loooong time. So yes, I do have a high post count on the forums. But please, don't mistake this for someone's wealth in game. This is a perception problem.

If you are going to have a contest, you have to let EVERYONE do it.

All the people complaining, I'd just like to give some food for thought. Pay it forward. I've spent a great deal of my time and "wealth" in game trying to do this. I also try my best to offer what knowledge I have whenever possible. Karma maybe? I don't know

[GuardianTwo]

That is not what I said. Read the rest of my post. Selective quoting is inaccurate.

The contests are not rigged. Random number generators do not have IQ's to say "pick the rich person's post". It is luck of the draw. I am a normal, hardworking person. I earned my gear by farming and selling everything I found. It took me over 10 months to get enough together to buy Sam, but I don't feel I have more of a right to win a contest than someone who spent hundreds of actual dollars to pop crates for their gear.

In any case, are you saying plat players should not be allowed to participate in contests because they got big-ticket items sooner than you? The whole concept of the game is that you can get anything by hard work, and if you spend real money you can likely get it sooner.

Should they make all the good contests for non-paying customers only? Should the paying customers have a lower chance to win? I'm sorry, but the argument does not make any sense whatsoever.

1. I never quote without reading that post atleast twice(coz to get clear idea of what the post says!) I had read urs too.
2. That profit that I wrote was from sts view. I think it wasn't read properly.(or just ignore this)
3. And I am not saying that normal-hardworking people should get any advantage in any contest but this should be applied to other people too. Why there are many saying that only rich people winning " gratz xyz " and all that and not saying that I didn't knew this person!
4. And yes RNG I am also feeling that it CAN be biased or whatever idk ....
5. And according to u anyone can get anything in the game and if someone spends money on game then that person can get it faster.. But should this thing be considered in unbiased contests.

It can be that idk much so I won't post anything else. And contest is done and dusted. Leave it let's look for future contests or farming :P . If anyone felt offended I am really sorry.

[Rare]

3. And I am not saying that normal-hardworking people should get any advantage in any contest but this should be applied to other people too. Why there are many saying that only rich people winning " gratz xyz " and all that and not saying that I didn't knew this person!


Because they are misinformed or draw their own conclusions.

[leojnv]

I just said that the 11th was an example of many lol

[Remiem]

Like it's been mentioned, all of the winners for this contest were chosen via random number generation (there are screenshots, just in case of disputes...), but you did have to work hard for this contest. It involved a lot of teamwork, coordination etc. Delphina and I were very careful in the contest to make sure that each shot was attainable even without platinum. It just took a little effort. For example, in screenshots with pets or titles, you weren't required to have them yourself, but find people who did have them. For a prize like an Arcane Ring, it can't be THAT easy. :)

I think what people notice is that the "rich and famous" players that you see winning contests are very active in the forums where the contest is held and in game quite often. They may have money, but that's not why they win the contests. They win because they are active and participate in just about everything, so you see them winning more often.

In contests like this we do not play favorites. We just pick randomly from the pool of participants to make it absolutely as fair as possible. Keep on trying, keep on entering and being active, and you will surely win one day.

[Anarchist]

you will surely win one day.


http://files.sharenator.com/happy_crys-s500x425-307709.jpg

[Zeus]

You know, they really do not have to even host the contest. I know plenty of non wealthy players who won.

I think what people think of non wealthy is 0 mythics, lol.

[Terracio]

Once somebody wins a contest they shouldn't be eligible for others for a while, but that's just me.

(plenty of ways to get around that though)

[Commanderkeen]

Once somebody wins a contest they shouldn't be eligible for others for a while, but that's just me.

(plenty of ways to get around that though)

StS: "Thanks for entering the weekly Tweeter contest and winning the 15 plat but you can't enter the Arcane Ring contest since you just won another contest."

Yeah something doesn't seem right about that.

[keikali]

Bunch of Tom Petty's.

[leojnv]

ok ok let the issue here, which otherwise publish on this subject I report

ty for comments