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Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 03:33 AM
EDITED: I replaced the 2nd and 3rd person to a litteral name so that you can picture the flow easily.

Ok, math question: You saw a Red Arlor cap for warrior in auction cost 97k only!!!, so you decided to borrow Remiem 50k, and another 50k from Samhayne to buy the said vanity. After you bought the vanity how much gold left on your pocket? Answer: 3k, ryt? Then you decided to return the 1k to Remiem and another 1k to Samhayne, so you still owe Remiem and Samhayne 49k each... How much gold left on you???
1k ryt???
Thus:
49k + 49k + 1k (on you pocket)=99k...

Where is the 1k????
The one that can answer will receive a jester vanity set! :-) sorry Im poor

Stewart Griffin
04-25-2014, 03:34 AM
Ugh could fishing reading there were too many numbers :)


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Coffee Mctgl
04-25-2014, 03:39 AM
you shoudnt add the borrowed money and the money you gave back together. add the borrowed money frst then add the change separately.
50k+50k = 100
100-97k = 3k
give them 2k so u still have 1k

100k - 2k = 98k

98k - 1k u have = 97k.

lol hope im right


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Xeusx
04-25-2014, 03:52 AM
1k is in your pocket and other 1k is in your other friend's pocket

elmanco
04-25-2014, 03:53 AM
?..taxes...lol...

U have the suit (97k) + 1k gold = 98k
And ur friends (-49k each) = -98k

98k+(-98k)= 0

elmanco
04-25-2014, 03:56 AM
Or like finally u say
49k+49k+1k=97k+1k+1k (the 1k each friend have on their pocket)

skorpionx
04-25-2014, 04:07 AM
Ok, math question: You saw Red Arlor in auction cost 97k only, so you decided to borrow me 50k, and another 50k from a friend to buy the vanity. After you bought the vanity how much gold left on your pocket? Answer: 3k, ryt? Then you decided to return the 1k to me and another 1k to your other friend, so you still owe me and your friend 49k each... How much gold left on you? 1k ryt? 49k + 49k + 1k (on you pocket)=99k. Where is the 1k???? The one that can answer will receive a jester vanity set! :-) sorry Im poor


49k + 49k + 1k (on you pocket)=99k
This passage is wrong xP xP if you sum what you remain and what you have to do is also like sum beans and carrots as same mat to make a cook recipe


You should sum what you decide to consider,or what you borrow or what you need to pay and you will have the correct answer
Need to pay: 49x2(remain) +1(played to you) +1 payed to your friend total 100

the 1k in this case is the trick to fall the donkeys( because you haven't pay to noone)


Most important thing: IGN skorpionx ;)

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Kellhus
04-25-2014, 04:08 AM
you shoudnt add the borrowed money and the money you gave back together. add the borrowed money frst then add the change separately.
50k+50k = 100
100-97k = 3k
give them 2k so u still have 1k

100k - 2k = 98k

98k - 1k u have = 97k.

lol hope im right


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Not if you bought the item.

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Coffee Mctgl
04-25-2014, 04:09 AM
oh


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Kellhus
04-25-2014, 04:12 AM
50+50=100
100-97=3
3-2=1
You borrow 100. Paid out 97+2=99. You have 1k in your pocket.
I guess this is what you are asking?!
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mightymynk
04-25-2014, 04:18 AM
Ok i know this question. I have encounter it before. Actually the 1k has gone nowhere. The question is just tricking u. Anyway what you do is give 500 to each of your friend from the 1k u hav in ur pocket. So now u owe them 48.5k each. So 48.5k + 48.5k = 97k and u had 3k before. 1k each to friend and 500 given later. So 48.5k+48.5k+1k+1k+500+500= 100k . Hope this was nice explanation. Ask if u have any question

Kellhus
04-25-2014, 04:26 AM
Ok i know this question. I have encounter it before. Actually the 1k has gone nowhere. The question is just tricking u. Anyway what you do is give 500 to each of your friend from the 1k u hav in ur pocket. So now u owe them 48.5k each. So 48.5k + 48.5k = 97k and u had 3k before. 1k each to friend and 500 given later. So 48.5k+48.5k+1k+1k+500+500= 100k . Hope this was nice explanation. Ask if u have any question

Exactly so the 1 k is in your pocket. We can all make up the rest of story for where it went. Bought 1k worth of pots, bought egg worth 1k, have to someone else etc etc. Point is that one k is with you to you do something with it.

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Socrates
04-25-2014, 04:33 AM
lol the 1k is in your pocket

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 04:44 AM
1k is in your pocket and other 1k is in your other friend's pocket
Almost there Zeus!!!

Socrates
04-25-2014, 04:49 AM
I think I got it the 1K is in my pocket the other 1k is in your pocket and the other 1k is at my friend's pocket

faychen
04-25-2014, 05:02 AM
100k = red arlor (97k) in my inventory + 1k in my pocket + 1k I returned you + 1k I returned another friend


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Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 05:19 AM
49k (you owe me) + 49k (you owe to your friend) = 98k + 1k (on your pocket) = 99k....
Again, where is the 1k more??? Remember, you borrowed a sum total of 100k all in all.

leokenpachi
04-25-2014, 05:30 AM
1k is on your pocket or my pocket

Socrates
04-25-2014, 05:32 AM
well let's see now the other 1k was used to buy the vanity am I wrong?

Xeusx
04-25-2014, 05:40 AM
1k is on your hand or in your stash.

Socrates
04-25-2014, 05:46 AM
1k is on your hand or in your stash.

lol bro he means the one extra 1k that remains from 49k+49k+1k (on my pocket)

Xeusx
04-25-2014, 05:50 AM
Now i got it
The other 1k is on your other pocket or wallet.

Socrates
04-25-2014, 05:50 AM
bro is it possible that that 1k doesn't even exist because the money you own to your friends now are 98k plus the 1k so where you find that 1k more? Unless you mean 1k in real life

skorpionx
04-25-2014, 06:09 AM
bro is it possible that that 1k doesn't even exist because the money you own to your friends now are 98k plus the 1k so where you find that 1k more? Unless you mean 1k in real life

Exact I have explained a couple of page ago where the trick is!

You can't multiplicate money if you aren't the central bank


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xlovableaze
04-25-2014, 06:20 AM
You have 2 friends and you gave them back 1k each. So the 1k left is on ur wallet


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Bigboyblue
04-25-2014, 06:54 AM
What the heck is the question here? I have read it several times and yet I don't understand what you want to know. Where the 1k is? There is no missing money here. What has happened is as follows :

Money borrowed :
Person 1 = +50k
Person 2 = +50k
Total = +100k


Money Owing
Repay Person 1 - 1k(total remaining -49k)
Repay Person 1 - 1k(total remaining -49k)
Total Repaid = -2k
Total Owing = -98k

Total Debt = -2k + -98k = -100k

It all adds up. Another way to look at it is as follows :

Money borrowed :
Person 1 = +50k
Person 2 = +50k
Total = +100k


Money Owing
Repay Person 1 - 1k(total remaining -49k)
Repay Person 1 - 1k(total remaining -49k)
Total Owing = -98k

Total Debt = 1k(in pocket) + 97k(Arlor) -98k(owing) = 0

It all adds up. There is a flaw in the way the question is worded. Its misleading. There is no 1k.

cooletzzz
04-25-2014, 07:54 AM
U bought the vanity 97k and asked credit worth of 100k.
100k-97k=3k
U give back 1k and having 49k credit each and 1k left.
49k+49k=98 (still credit left)

Ps. You cant add ur 1k left in ur pocket against the credit.

Correct formulas:

Credit+credit=credit
Paid+paid=paid
Balanced+balanced=balanced

you cant mix the formula!

Deadroth
04-25-2014, 07:59 AM
1 k is in your player wallet.

Better ask for something... more... HARD? idk..

All who posted above me with their calculations.. just.. lol.
This is a troll contest. This is obivious he have 1k at his player account.
No need to make special formulas here.

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 09:08 AM
Lol deadrothz :-) you are the 1 that Im expecting to answer this question :-) try to lay down some formula

Socrates
04-25-2014, 10:54 AM
lol man are you trolling us we said every possible combination and still no winner?
1) the 1k is in my pocket
2) the 1k is in my friend's pocket
3) the 1k is in your pocket
4) the 1k is in your real life
5) the 1k it was used to buy the arlor vanity
6) there isn't 1k
SO I AM SCRATCHING MY HEAD AND STILL CAN'T FIND OUT WHAT OTHER COMBINATION MIGHT BE zzzzzzzz

Deadroth
04-25-2014, 11:22 AM
Ok, math question: You saw Red Arlor in auction cost 97k only, so you decided to borrow me 50k, and another 50k from a friend to buy the vanity. After you bought the vanity how much gold left on your pocket? Answer: 3k, ryt? Then you decided to return the 1k to me and another 1k to your other friend, so you still owe me and your friend 49k each... How much gold left on you? 1k ryt? 49k + 49k + 1k (on you pocket)=99k. Where is the 1k???? The one that can answer will receive a jester vanity set! :-) sorry Im poor

To borrow You?... Makes no sense, it is like i gave You 50k and got 50k from friend. To borrow from you if so... idk..

Wierd one. Nothing to calculate here.

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 12:00 PM
You guys are not considering one more thing -.- Zeus was almost there honestly... try to figure it out on real money and u will certainly know where the 1k is...

Bigboyblue
04-25-2014, 12:03 PM
I think the real question is who sold the Red Arlor for 97k?

Mrmalibog, the problem with your questions is you add two negatives and a positive like they are all positives. Its really -49k + -49k + 1k = -97k. The exact price you paid for the Arlor and what is still owing. Why are the amount owing listed as positives? The question is flawed and makes no sense. Are you actually expecting an answer from someone.

My answer is TROLL!!

Socrates
04-25-2014, 12:07 PM
lol man are you trolling us we said every possible combination and still no winner?
1) the 1k is in my pocket
2) the 1k is in my friend's pocket
3) the 1k is in your pocket
4) the 1k is in your real life
5) the 1k it was used to buy the arlor vanity
6) there isn't 1k
SO I AM SCRATCHING MY HEAD AND STILL CAN'T FIND OUT WHAT OTHER COMBINATION MIGHT BE zzzzzzzz

you mean none of these are right?

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 12:08 PM
I think the real question is who sold the Red Arlor for 97k?

Mrmalibog, the problem with your questions is you add two negatives and a positive like they are all positives. Its really -49k + -49k + 1k = -97k. The exact price you paid for the Arlor and what is still owing. Why are the amount owing listed as positives? The question is flawed and makes no sense. Are you actually expecting an answer from someone.

My answer is TROLL!!
It really has bro :) at first I thought there's no answer here, but certainly has :) I will let this thread stay open until someone post the right answer....
NOTE: If there's an M.D.A.S there's also an S.A.D.M

Silent_Less
04-25-2014, 12:14 PM
The answer is : Why should I owe you and other friend 49k gold ? Because the ARLOR price is 97k , 48.50 + 48.50 = 97k , so the 3k gold left given to each of you . 3k divide by 2 is 1.5k gold . Sooooo , I dont have any gold to buy that ARLOR . I owe from both of you . Why should I take the 1k gold ? ;)

Fyrce
04-25-2014, 12:16 PM
OMG *rolls eyes*

100k = 97k item + 3k = (49k owed *2) + (1k paid *2)


You already had the right answer, but some brains will never understand it. Make some piles on a desk to see where the word problem has lied to you.

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 12:17 PM
The answer is : Why should I owe you and other friend 49k gold ? Because the ARLOR price is 97k , 48.50 + 48.50 = 97k , so the 3k gold left given to each of you . 3k divide by 2 is 1.5k gold . Sooooo , I dont have any gold to buy that ARLOR . I owe it to both of you . ;)

The sentence on red font spoiled your GOOD answer :)

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 12:18 PM
OMG *rolls eyes*

100k = 97k item + 3k = (49k owed *2) + (1k paid *2)


You already had the right answer, but some brains will never understand it. Make some piles on a desk.
Lol Fyrce :) :) :) IKR!!!

Silent_Less
04-25-2014, 12:21 PM
The sentence on red font spoiled your GOOD answer :)

The answer is : Why should I owe you and other friend 49k gold ? Because the ARLOR price is 97k , 48.50 + 48.50 = 97k , so the 3k gold left given to each of you . 3k divide by 2 is 1.5k gold

Kalahesi
04-25-2014, 12:29 PM
That question is confusing :-$


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Socrates
04-25-2014, 12:36 PM
the 1k is at my friend's pocket and your pocket because 48,50+48,50=97k so to reach 49k as you said you have to add 500gold and 500gold to both of your friends so that 1k is not solid but seperated in 2

Rare
04-25-2014, 12:40 PM
The format of the question is flawed.

As some other stated, the way its laid out is incorrect.

97k + 3k = 50k + 50k
97k + 1k = 49k + 49k

if you want to add 1k to the right side, you need to add it to the left side also.

97k + 1k + (1k) = 49k + 49k + (1k)

Kalahesi
04-25-2014, 12:52 PM
Any maths professors in the house? I really want to understand...In lay mans terms.


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GoodSyntax
04-25-2014, 12:57 PM
This is a classic logical misdirection strategy used by magicians and scam artists.

The point here is that the OP wants you to focus on the fact that 49+49+1 = 99 and not 100. This misdirects you from the fact that in this equation, the item purchased with the loans is not present and the numbers are not showing up in the correct side of the ledger.

The correct equation in this game is actually:

97k (vanity) + 1k (your pocket) + 1k (friend 1 pocket) + 1k (friend 2 pocket) = 50k (loaned by friend 1) + 50k (loaned by friend 2)


Misrepresenting the above formula is where the misdirection is happening because what the OP is trying to convince you of is that:

100 <> (50 - 1) + (50 - 1) + 1

This example puts the credits and debits in the wrong locations which is why this proof fails. A double ledger system only works if the correct numbers show up on the correct side of the ledger...

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 01:03 PM
The format of the question is flawed.

As some other stated, the way its laid out is incorrect.

97k + 3k = 50k + 50k
97k + 1k = 49k + 49k

if you want to add 1k to the right side, you need to add it to the left side also.

97k + 1k + (1k) = 49k + 49k + (1k)

Bro!!! Almost there!!! but the question now is WHERE IS THE 1k???

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 01:07 PM
This is a classic logical misdirection strategy used by magicians and scam artists.

The point here is that the OP wants you to focus on the fact that 49+49+1 = 99 and not 100. This misdirects you from the fact that in this equation, the item purchased with the loans is not present and the numbers are not showing up in the correct side of the ledger.

The correct equation in this game is actually:

97k (vanity) + 1k (your pocket) + 1k (friend 1 pocket) + 1k (friend 2 pocket) = 50k (loaned by friend 1) + 50k (loaned by friend 2)


Misrepresenting the above formula is where the misdirection is happening because what the OP is trying to convince you of is that:

100 <> (50 - 1) + (50 - 1) + 1

This example puts the credits and debits in the wrong locations which is why this proof fails. A double ledger system only works if the correct numbers show up on the correct side of the ledger...

I like your answer on BOLD font... But there is a specific "p***e" where the 1k went into....

Rare
04-25-2014, 01:12 PM
Bro!!! Almost there!!! but the question now is WHERE IS THE 1k???

it never existed... it's like when you jumped into your ferrari and your supermodel girlfriend was waiting in it with with a $100 and a bigmac.... then your alarm went off.

Unless you mean "in my pocket"

Kalahesi
04-25-2014, 01:13 PM
Please tell us the answer... Thinking about this hurts :(


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Bii
04-25-2014, 01:36 PM
Red arlor cap : 97k

U borrowed : 100k

U returned : 2k , U owe 49 (x2) , U have 1k (pocket) = 1k is in the red arlor cap

Bii
04-25-2014, 01:45 PM
100k (u borrowed from samhayne + remiem) - 97k (red arlor cap) - 2k (u returned) - 1k (pocket) = 0k

Now you have a red arlor cap + 1k in your pocket, = 98k (because u returned 2k)

And you owe 49k x 2 = 98k

There's no 1k, the 1k is either in the debt of remiem + samhayne or its in the red arlor cap.

Socrates
04-25-2014, 01:48 PM
[B][I]EDITED:
Thus:
49k + 49k + 1k (on you pocket)=99k...


the 1k is in my pocket

Arturohoward
04-25-2014, 01:50 PM
- 97k/2 = 48.5K
- 48.5 + 1K = 49.5K(of each one)
- 49.5 x 2 = 99K
- 99k + 1k (on your pocket) = 100k

Here is the answer

they put 49.5k each one, no only 49.

The real "problem" is on how u did the math problem question

Bii
04-25-2014, 01:55 PM
If u must insist the 1k is there, the other 1k is either with samhayne or remiem.

Socrates
04-25-2014, 01:57 PM
man can't you give us at least a hint

Orageunas
04-25-2014, 02:01 PM
1k is between the and ?
lol :)

Bii
04-25-2014, 02:04 PM
The place (1k) is at: Nowhere

Ign : Gave

Socrates
04-25-2014, 02:19 PM
the 1k was used to buy the vanity because all of the 3k are mentioned to be given 1st was given to remiem second was given to samhayne and you mention that the last one is in my pocket. So that leave us with the actual cost of the vanity that is 97k. If this is wrong too I am going to hit a wall HARD :P


(49k)+(49k)+1k on my pocket
(1k given)+(1k given)
this make a total of 3k so that 1k was probably used to buy the vanity so that 1k is in AUCTION

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 03:01 PM
the 1k was used to buy the vanity because all of the 3k are mentioned to be given 1st was given to remiem second was given to samhayne and you mention that the last one is in my pocket. So that leave us with the actual cost of the vanity that is 97k. If this is wrong too I am going to hit a wall HARD :P


(49k)+(49k)+1k on my pocket
(1k given)+(1k given)
this make a total of 3k so that 1k was probably used to buy the vanity so that 1k is in AUCTION
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

Now guys, first of all "I made a trick on that question" :)
There is no need for an expanded formula for this... well, u may do your own formula, but it will not answer the question "WHERE"
There is no sense of adding both of the 49k coz I owe them to a DIFFERENT individual...

Now, my question is WHERE is the 1k?
Think about it carefully and it will come up to the idea that its already in the AUCTION!!!

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 03:04 PM
BTW!!! Don't lose hope :) here's much easier 1!!! and much more prizes to be given away!!! -->http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?150660-Say-JESTER-and-quot-Win-quot-JESTER

Socrates
04-25-2014, 03:10 PM
BTW!!! Don't lose hope :) here's much easier 1!!! and much more prizes to be given away!!! --> http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?150653-JESTER-Bump!!!

did I win? if I did send my a friend request my ign is Maoejal

Bigboyblue
04-25-2014, 03:17 PM
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

Now guys, first of all "I made a trick on that question" :)
There is no need for an expanded formula for this... well, u may do your own formula, but it will not answer the question "WHERE"
There is no sense of adding both of the 49k coz I owe them to a DIFFERENT individual...

Now, my question is WHERE is the 1k?
Think about it carefully and it will come up to the idea that its already in the AUCTION!!!

I hate to say this isn't right but, this isn't right lol. There is no 1k. That's the right answer whether you agree or not. Just wanted to point this out. Why did I get so caught up in this thread lol. Maybe I thought there would be some cool answer. Maybe I need to get out more. Either way, good job on posting something I followed, but you're answer is ultimately wrong :biggrin:

Mrmalibog
04-25-2014, 03:19 PM
I'm online now... I pm you

Fyrce
04-25-2014, 05:28 PM
OMG, stupid stupid stupid.

You will never understand. It is impossible for you w/o an object demonstration and you will never perform it. Therefore you will never understand.


Now, my question is WHERE is the 1k?
Think about it carefully and it will come up to the idea that its already in the AUCTION!!!

Samdegreat
04-25-2014, 05:35 PM
You don't have 1k in your pocket as

Your in 98k of debt (so your curreny in theory is -98k)

1-98 = -97

So in your pocket you have 00000000000 :) hahaha

Or your a noob and used the 1k to list it in auction for 18000 (12day period)

leokenpachi
04-26-2014, 12:29 PM
1k is in the inventory

Bunny♥
04-26-2014, 10:12 PM
What the heck is the question here? I have read it several times and yet I don't understand what you want to know. Where the 1k is? There is no missing money here. What has happened is as follows :

Money borrowed :
Person 1 = +50k
Person 2 = +50k
Total = +100k


Money Owing
Repay Person 1 - 1k(total remaining -49k)
Repay Person 1 - 1k(total remaining -49k)
Total Repaid = -2k
Total Owing = -98k

Total Debt = -2k + -98k = -100k

It all adds up. Another way to look at it is as follows :

Money borrowed :
Person 1 = +50k
Person 2 = +50k
Total = +100k


Money Owing
Repay Person 1 - 1k(total remaining -49k)
Repay Person 1 - 1k(total remaining -49k)
Total Owing = -98k

Total Debt = 1k(in pocket) + 97k(Arlor) -98k(owing) = 0

It all adds up. There is a flaw in the way the question is worded. Its misleading. There is no 1k.

85963

hahahaha :p