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iacito
05-11-2014, 06:11 PM
While looking at the stats of the new legendary gears, I noticed that the stat pattern has changed for lvl 40-41 legendaries have changed. Elite legendary gears, instead of havingdidpoint attributes more than the gear lvl, only have 3 points more.For example, the lvl 41 elite totems instead of having 46 INT as their base stat, have 44 INT. This change also occurred in crates gear, which,instead of having 3 more attribute points than the gear lvl , only have 2.

While this doesn't greatly affect new gears (as they have more dmg (weapons), more armor (armor and helm), and better procs and aesthetics), it does affect upgraded gears and their value. Upgraded lvl 40 helms,armors,rings and weapons only have 2 stat points more than elite legendary gears from the past season (they do give more DMG and hp, but they barely increase survivality). For example, lvl 41 archon rings only have 3 stat points more than lvl 36 archon rings and nothing more. This change in the pattern also makes the crate gears, from lvl 5-36, weaker than the one from the previous season's and also decreased their potential value.

Questions for community:
Do you think that the change affected the worth of the new items?(would they have been more expensive or easier to sell if the pattern stayed the same?)
Why did Sts change the pattern?( is it because of the new stagger system?(will the gears released further on follow the old system?))
What do you think about the change? (is it irrelevant to you or?)

P.S Only the top elite legendaries(brutality/security for mage, brutality/will for rogues, and will for warriors) had their base stat 5 points more than the item lvl, and only the top crate weapons( brutality/security for mage, brutality/will for rogues, and will for warriors) had had their stat at 3 stat point more than the gear lvl; it varies when you change the type of the gear, but all of the lvl 40-41 Elite legendaries have 2 stat points less than they should have had, and all of the crates one less.

Morholt
05-11-2014, 09:27 PM
When people first got their hands on the lvl 40/41 archon rings, they mentioned the stats being lower than expected. Sts responded that it is part of the new itemization.

Crowsfoot
05-11-2014, 09:31 PM
Another bug difference in gear, for warriors at least, is that the highest damage weapons and armor no longer have the highest or near highest armor stats. For example; compare the Demonlord sets to the magma plates.

iacito
05-12-2014, 12:29 AM
When people first got their hands on the lvl 40/41 archon rings, they mentioned the stats being lower than expected. Sts responded that it is part of the new itemization.
Does the stat of the ring being lower imply that a superior set of legendary rings is going to be released? And if they are released, will they replace the old rings or would they be obtainable through a new medium?

Morholt
05-12-2014, 12:46 AM
Does the stat of the ring being lower imply that a superior set of legendary rings is going to be released? And if they are released, will they replace the old rings or would they be obtainable through a new medium?There has been no official word about.
We can all only guess at what will (or will not) happen for now.

Personally, I sure hope some GOOD lvl 41 legendary rings come out...it's a little silly that the mythic ring has had the lifespan of an arcane item...

iacito
05-12-2014, 03:52 PM
There has been no official word about.
We can all only guess at what will (or will not) happen for now.

Personally, I sure hope some GOOD lvl 41 legendary rings come out...it's a little silly that the mythic ring has had the lifespan of an arcane item...
The mythic ring is still predominant because of its huge Hp boost over legendary rings. So for any other rings to be considered by players, they either need to have a considerable amount of damage more than the mythic ring, or rival its HP all the while competing with its DMG.

Rare
05-12-2014, 04:33 PM
Here is something interesting I found comparing a L41 Archon Ring of potency (2 normal dex gems) with a L40 Gold Ring of Potency (1 normal dex gem):

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/va8ybyhu.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/9emeneju.jpg

Look at the difference in the price tags. Even going up to an Archon Ring of Potency with 2 grand dex gems is only slightly better. And right now posted for 5m+ on cs.

To summarize... two things. First, people are waaaay overvaluing things. Second, the scaling of the items has left a lot to be desired. I'm just not sure how it will work out. Maybe the coming event will introduce a new set of gear that will outperform the current gear.

On the one hand, I hope so, because other than warrior Magma, the new sets are pretty sorry (looks great though). On the other hand, I hope not because it will create a pretty nasty trend in AL.

Shameless plug (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?153057-The-future-of-itemization-and-locked-crates)

Crowsfoot
05-12-2014, 04:41 PM
Here is something interesting I found comparing a L41 Archon Ring of potency (2 normal dex gems) with a L40 Gold Ring of Potency (1 normal dex gem):

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/va8ybyhu.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/9emeneju.jpg

Look at the difference in the price tags. Even going up to an Archon Ring of Potency with 2 grand dex gems is only slightly better. And right now posted for 5m+ on cs.

To summarize... two things. First, people are waaaay overvaluing things. Second, the scaling of the items has left a lot to be desired. I'm just not sure how it will work out. Maybe the coming event will introduce a new set of gear that will outperform the current gear.

On the one hand, I hope so. On the other hand, I hope not because it will create a pretty nasty trend in AL.

Shameless plug (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?153057-The-future-of-itemization-and-locked-crates)
Archon rings grants +93 armor​ ​when equipped. You can't inspect that stat increase until equipped.

88042

88043

See? That is why it has such a high price tag. The level 41 version has the highest damage and armor stat of any ring for warriors.

Rare
05-12-2014, 04:43 PM
Archon ri gs grants +93 armor​ ​when equipped. You can't inspect that stat increase until equipped.

That interesting. Doesn't show up in the item description at all.

Edit: Ah that's probably for the str version. Didn't take into account the passive stat issue.

Crowsfoot
05-12-2014, 04:47 PM
Archon rings grants +93 armor​ ​when equipped. You can't inspect that stat increase until equipped.

88042

88043

See? That is why it has such a high price tag. The level 41 version has the highest damage and armor stat of any ring for warriors.


That interesting. Doesn't show up in the item description at all.
It's the "+2.5% armor" part. It is, in actuality, 93 armor no matter what gear is equipped.