Guide For Endgame Int Mages: Global Cooldown Time and Skill Activation Time

[Sheugokin]

Hey guys! This is my first guide so please give me some constructive criticism! Thanks and if this helped, please hit the tnanks button on the lower left of the post! :)

People have been complaining about "mana shield lag" or heal lag and stuff like that. In my opinion, Global Cooldown is definitely necessary to learn skill in PvP and in a much lesser extent, PvE. That way, "nubs" will not be randomly spamming kills and somehow getting a kill.

I think Mages have the most spells with a skill lag time. Skill lag may be like mana shield, lightning, icestorm, frostbite, heal, drain, and revive. Bird's skill lag spell can be the thorn wall. Being aware of these lag times with help a lot in PvP. For example, if a bird is fighting a mage in endgame, the bird can easily, with swift elite bow set, thron root, blast shot, and hit repulse/blind shot. However to prevent that from happening, one can utilize the skill lag time of mana shield.


This is what I do as an int mage vs. any birds (usually) in respect to the mana shield: I usually buff and then wait for a sec and taunt the birds without getting hit/stunned. Then, I hit mana shield and wait 1 sec and charge at the bird. M.S. has about a 2 sec lag time. So within that 1 sec, the bird would hit its blast into my health pool, but the next attack would hit my mana. Now I can use my mana to shield me from dying as well as nuking it.

Heal's lag time can be used because it requires real skill to heal at the right time especially in CTF. When you get hit you can heal right before the nuke and then pray for the best. Healing just before the nuke will give heal enough time to actually work. You will see your health pool depleting rapidly and then an increase. Same thing with healing tanking characters. You heal right when they are getting hit so that lag time can heal it while it is fighting.

Revive has one of the longest, but in my opinion, the best lag time. This one takes REAL skill. When reviving, you want to revive your teammates into safety. (This is CTF strategy btw.) When they die and in range to a corner of a wall with nothing blocking it (not including any characters), then you go towards the wall. And step out of the corner, hit revive and immediately run back towards the wall. This lag time will transport the character not where you hit it but the position where you revived it 1 sec after you hit it. Also, when you hit revive, you need to make sure that no enemy is trying to nuke you. If they are, try healing right after reviving. Don't worry, this is one of the hardest skills to master.

Frostbite has a lag too. (A very important skill in Arena.) You can hit frostbite and plan your fire to hit combo. Just wait when the skill is 3/4 the way to your enemy and hit fire. Very crucial to hit it at that time because if your enemy is an experienced mage, they will just heal right after it gets 3/4 of its way to them, and remove the frostbite, thus rendering you fire useless as a combo. Same idea with icestorm except make sure you're in range.

At endgame or close to endgame, drain is the most vital, strongest, and most versatile of the 12 skills. Not only does it hit your enemy hard, but it replenishes your health pool. Drain also has a very long lag time. Just make sure when you drain when getting nuked, don't heal to quickly. You need to know all of these lag times. I think drain has a 3 sec lag time, not sure. In arena, if you and your enemy are both late mana shielders, then drain timing combined with heal is important. When they drain and then fire, make sure you heal right after fire goes through, because you know that the lag time is going to be gone, so you need a somewhat full health pool to tank the drain. While you are healing at the right time, get your drain and fire in too. Hopefully your skills reign supreme!

Lightning- not really as crucial but when vsing non-str characters, you want to try to get light in in range. Especially for kiting int mages and birds. For int mages that don't use mana shield immediately, you want to try to make sure to get light in. That lag time will get them because when you hit light and then fire, fire hits first, and then the lag time for lightning finally goes through.

The other skills I really don't think have a significant lag time: firestorm, blessing of vitality, blessing of might, weakness, and nightmare.


From hardest to master to easiest in my opinion:

1. Reviving
2. Mana Shield
3. Heal
4. Drain (Disputable between heal and drain)
5. Frostbite + Firestorm combo
6. Lightning


Sorry if this is too long, but this is just a brief overview! :)

Thanks and that's all! Plus, if I made any mistakes, please do post and send me the grammatical/content errors.

[Promagin]

Nice guide :)

[Laar]

Nice. This would help mages a lot.

[synfullmagic_23110]

Revive has one of the longest, but in my opinion, the best lag time. This one takes REAL skill. When reviving, you want to revive your teammates into safety. (This is CTF strategy btw.) When they die and in range to a corner of a wall with nothing blocking it (not including any characters), then you go towards the wall. And step out of the corner, hit revive and immediately run back towards the wall. This lag time will transport the character not where you hit it but the position where you revived it 1 sec after you hit it. Also, when you hit revive, you need to make sure that no enemy is trying to nuke you. If they are, try healing right after reviving. Don't worry, this is one of the hardest skills to master.

U can sometimes do it the correct timing u rev ur self
Done it a couple times my self ;)




<3

[XghostzX]

Nice guide Sheu. Yeah, a common misconception is that people think mages suck because of their delayed skills. I, in fact, think it's what makes makes a good and bad player distinct from each other.

As a mage, unless you have mana shield on, timing up your drain and heal is probably the most essential thing you can do. When I 1v1 vs Pallies, I have to make sure I use drain about half a second after they've casted spells, and then use heal right when I'm about to be frozen.

Although str mages are more OP, playing INT mage is 10x more fun. You feel pretty good about yourself when you get a kill, plus (IMO) it's the best team/support player when used appropriately.

The revive is KEY in CTF. That small delay time is what keeps your teammates from dying again. Sheu, you should try using a rhino and their 14 meter revive (9 skill points into revive). It has a slightly longer delay than a mages rev, and it's pretty fun to use.

[dudetus]

As a pro mage I have to disagree with this guide and decline to offer any sort of constructive criticism.

[XghostzX]

As a pro mage I have to disagree with this guide and decline to offer any sort of constructive criticism.

Noob

[Laar]

As a pro mage I have to disagree with this guide and decline to offer any sort of constructive criticism.

Noob
Lol ^_^

[Sheugokin]

@ All


I really appreciate your feedback guys. Really means a lot! So happy :)

[Caiahar]

Lol noob sheu made a guide


I like it :D

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[Reunegade]

What separates a pro mage and a noob mage is dudetus

[Sheugokin]

What separates a pro mage and a noob mage is dudetus

This guide separates boys from men :)

[dudetus]

What separates a pro mage and a noob mage is dudetus


This guide separates boys from men :)

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[Gaunab]

Great thread!

Another fun thing about revive is that the delay allows you to revive an ally even before he dies. So, if you see your teammate about to be beckonstomped into oblivion you can press revive a second before he drops dead (while he's still in range) and revive him even though he is lying in other corner of the map.

[Booked]

Wao Alex pro mage :3 I'll put that in practice when i get my mage to 75 :)

[Sheugokin]

Lol naomi please you pro at L 1, you can own me regardless lol.

[anahadaz]

Sheugokin thanks for useful information I'm always killed xD but can you recommend the right skills set up for an int fiery mage? Like what points to give each skill? That would be great! Thanks in advance! :)

[Sheugokin]

This is all I can tell you b/c my skills are kinda a secret

Try have Frostbite so your opponent will be frozen for a longer period of time, you can try 9.

Lightning is a must 9

Heal doesn't need to be at 9

1 on Revive

9 on Firestorn is a must

Icestorm is up to you

Drain at 9 is a must

Weakness and nightmare is optional

Mana Shield is up to you but have at least one on it

9 on buffs is a must

[largecommand]

This is what I do as an int mage vs. any birds (usually) in respect to the mana shield: I usually buff and then wait for a sec and taunt the birds without getting hit/stunned. Then, I hit mana shield and wait 1 sec and charge at the bird. M.S. has about a 2 sec lag time. So within that 1 sec, the bird would hit its blast into my health pool, but the next attack would hit my mana. Now I can use my mana to shield me from dying as well as nuking it.

Why cant you do this vs me?

[Sheugokin]

B/c I like going easy on nubs like u.

Trash pls. :)

[Fear]

I'm bes mage

[anahadaz]

This is all I can tell you b/c my skills are kinda a secret

Try have Frostbite so your opponent will be frozen for a longer period of time, you can try 9.

Lightning is a must 9

Heal doesn't need to be at 9

1 on Revive

9 on Firestorn is a must

Icestorm is up to you

Drain at 9 is a must

Weakness and nightmare is optional

Mana Shield is up to you but have at least one on it

9 on buffs is a must
Awh can you not? I really need help hehe because every time I play pvp I get killed, I have

5 heal

9 lightning fire and drain

1 revive and Ice Storm

3 frostbite

9 on both buffs

9 on both debuffs

1 mana shield

Is there any way you can private message me your combo/skills set up on this? Or add me on pl anahadaz? Made my forum account like 3 years ago and have never posted, bit of a noob xD

Thanks anyway!

[killinclaw]

Good one Shue, I'll keep this guide in mind when start playing my mage again.

[darkblizzardx]

I've never understood it but what's the whole point in having a "secret" skill build?

[Sheugokin]

So people don't copy you lol. Plus, its kind of a pride thing lol.

[Gaunab]

Max: BoM, BoV, frostbite, lightning, drain, fire, manashield. 7 heal. 1 revive. 4 icestorm. No debuffs. :)

However, it's not the build that makes a great mage.

[anahadaz]

Max: BoM, BoV, frostbite, lightning, drain, fire, manashield. 7 heal. 1 revive. 4 icestorm. No debuffs. :)

However, it's not the build that makes a great mage.

I think that would be a good build for going up against an archer, because you never have time to debuff anyway because they 2 shot you! :D Thoughts sheu?

[Gaunab]

I think that would be a good build for going up against an archer, because you never have time to debuff anyway because they 2 shot you! :D Thoughts sheu?

This build provides the strongest and fastest nuke; besides icestorm all your damaging skills are maxed. Debuffs arent really needed as they force you to get close (6-8m), slow down your nuke and take away points from more important skills. Birds will kill you before you have a chance to debuff. Against other intmages 9 in ms and a strong nuke is much more beneficial than debuffs that can be kited/healed easily. Same goes against pallies, a good one will heal the debuff right away. Against bears you dont want to be close enough to hit debuffs in the first place and even if you are, the chances that the debuffs will hit through the dodge and that you will be able to get in a nuke afterwards are very slim.
Better spend your points on something you will actually use.

[anahadaz]

This build provides the strongest and fastest nuke; besides icestorm all your damaging skills are maxed. Debuffs arent really needed as they force you to get close (6-8m), slow down your nuke and take away points from more important skills. Birds will kill you before you have a chance to debuff. Against other intmages 9 in ms and a strong nuke is much more beneficial than debuffs that can be kited/healed easily. Same goes against pallies, a good one will heal the debuff right away. Against bears you dont want to be close enough to hit debuffs in the first place and even if you are, the chances that the debuffs will hit through the dodge and that you will be able to get in a nuke afterwards are very slim.
Better spend your points on something you will actually use.

You seem pretty informed and it is a good build for archers, however, I am pure int using this build and bears are IMPOSSIBLE unless you can find me a way hehe, thanks anyway!

[Gaunab]

You seem pretty informed and it is a good build for archers, however, I am pure int using this build and bears are IMPOSSIBLE unless you can find me a way hehe, thanks anyway!

Sadly, there is no build that beats a decent savage bear, no matter how skilled you are.. :/

Your best bet is trying to kite beckon and nuke afterwards. Heal off stuns and try to keep a distance, time your shield and pray for your skills to hit through the dodge.

[Sheugokin]

Sadly, there is no build that beats a decent savage bear, no matter how skilled you are.. :/

Your best bet is trying to kite beckon and nuke afterwards. Heal off stuns and try to keep a distance, time your shield and pray for your skills to hit through the dodge.

And even with that, you will lose.

[Laar]

Sadly, there is no build that beats a decent savage bear, no matter how skilled you are.. :/

Your best bet is trying to kite beckon and nuke afterwards. Heal off stuns and try to keep a distance, time your shield and pray for your skills to hit through the dodge.

And even with that, you will lose.
^^ this is why I don't endgame anymore

[Sheugokin]

^^ this is why I don't endgame anymore

It's ok, Im still waiting for nerf lol.

[Sheugokin]

Awh can you not? I really need help hehe because every time I play pvp I get killed, I have

5 heal

9 lightning fire and drain

1 revive and Ice Storm

3 frostbite

9 on both buffs

9 on both debuffs

1 mana shield

Is there any way you can private message me your combo/skills set up on this? Or add me on pl anahadaz? Made my forum account like 3 years ago and have never posted, bit of a noob xD

Thanks anyway!

Skill build isn't really like a problem. It is skill. You need to follow the guild more lol. I see you in endgame, and you don't know how to kite...

[anahadaz]

Skill build isn't really like a problem. It is skill. You need to follow the guild more lol. I see you in endgame, and you don't know how to kite...

Sheu why are you rushing me in pvp right now? Is it because some guy rushed me, I rushed him back, he was convinced he didnt rush me and got ninja to hunt me, I killed ninja twice when she was rushing and now you're rushing me.. :( I'm a nice person lol I don't rush first I'm just trying to get pvp help from forums that's all..

[Caiahar]

Sheu why are you rushing me in pvp right now? Is it because some guy rushed me, I rushed him back, he was convinced he didnt rush me and got ninja to hunt me, I killed ninja twice when she was rushing and now you're rushing me.. :( I'm a nice person lol I don't rush first I'm just trying to get pvp help from forums that's all..

Rushing isn't bad. I rush sheu all the time.

Mostly to the kitchen because he spends his time playing PL he doesn't eat.

[Laar]

Sheu why are you rushing me in pvp right now? Is it because some guy rushed me, I rushed him back, he was convinced he didnt rush me and got ninja to hunt me, I killed ninja twice when she was rushing and now you're rushing me.. :( I'm a nice person lol I don't rush first I'm just trying to get pvp help from forums that's all..

Rushing isn't bad. I rush sheu all the time.

Mostly to the kitchen because he spends his time playing PL he doesn't eat.
You rush him to get him eating waffles and eggs?

[Sheugokin]

Ofc duh!

[Caiahar]

Sheu why are you rushing me in pvp right now? Is it because some guy rushed me, I rushed him back, he was convinced he didnt rush me and got ninja to hunt me, I killed ninja twice when she was rushing and now you're rushing me.. :( I'm a nice person lol I don't rush first I'm just trying to get pvp help from forums that's all..

Rushing isn't bad. I rush sheu all the time.

Mostly to the kitchen because he spends his time playing PL he doesn't eat.
You rush him to get him eating waffles and eggs?
And sausages.

[Sheugokin]

And sausages.

And BACON!!!!!

[Laar]

And sausages.

And BACON!!!!!
Mmmm bacon :O

[XghostzX]

This build provides the strongest and fastest nuke; besides icestorm all your damaging skills are maxed. Debuffs arent really needed as they force you to get close (6-8m), slow down your nuke and take away points from more important skills. Birds will kill you before you have a chance to debuff. Against other intmages 9 in ms and a strong nuke is much more beneficial than debuffs that can be kited/healed easily. Same goes against pallies, a good one will heal the debuff right away. Against bears you dont want to be close enough to hit debuffs in the first place and even if you are, the chances that the debuffs will hit through the dodge and that you will be able to get in a nuke afterwards are very slim.
Better spend your points on something you will actually use.

For healing off pallies, I actually prefer to save my heals for their frostbite and to just take the debuffs (because sometimes you'll even heal debuffs and a frostbite). But I agree, healing off nightmare is a pretty useful strategy.

Also, I don't use any debuffs in my build. As Gau said, you don't want spend your points on something that you won't use. You're focusing on maxing out your damage. I use 9 in shield as well - that +45 armor (or whatever it is) I find extremely useful... it makes me a little more tanky in CTF.

[Caiahar]

Int mages I cant defeat properly:
Ghost
Angeldawn
Sheugokin
Idk any more

[Trenton]

If you cant beat them you have a problem sir

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I'm sure you've beat them to 10, you seem like a pro

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[Narb]

Wao I see how it is

[Sheugokin]

LOL. Back on topic pls!

[Boiled_35]

LOL. Back on topic pls!

Sure I'll be back on topic lol :) I actually used some of your tips in 61 pvp. Got a little better understanding of my skills. :)


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[Sheugokin]

I vs u on my mage! Name is Reciprocate. U are very good. :)

[Boiled_35]

I vs u on my mage! Name is Reciprocate. U are very good. :)

Oh lol hey and ty, you too! :)

[Laar]

I vs u on my mage! Name is Reciprocate. U are very good. :)
And you are very bad. :)
Jk, you up for another 1v1 on our 51 mages?