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Zapix
06-26-2014, 11:52 AM
1. Scrap the entire reroll system.
2. Implement a % based drop system where all Mythic and Arcane items can drop from Elite Bosses.
3. Plat can still be sold for elixirs and opening crates to get ahead.
4. Watch as your player base skyrockets through the roof because this game just became the best MMO ever created for a mobile/tablet platform.

I know my ideas are quick and to the point but seriously give this some thought STS.

Thanks, Zapix

tharidom
06-26-2014, 11:57 AM
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Crowsfoot
06-26-2014, 12:00 PM
I doubt it will be implemented. The argument will be that mythic and arcane items already drop from elite via Elite Golden Chests.

keikali
06-26-2014, 12:01 PM
One great example to base their foundation off of is WoW. I don't think AL can support a Raid system, but taking the aspects of looting from WoW is a great start.

Riptank
06-26-2014, 12:02 PM
1. Scrap the entire reroll system.
2. Implement a % based drop system where all Mythic and Arcane items can drop from Elite Bosses.


Opening crate is the STS main source of profit and mythic/arcane is the main reason why people open crate. They will not make this possible.

LordDravek
06-26-2014, 12:03 PM
I doubt it will be implemented. The argument will be that mythic and arcane items do drop from elite via Elite Golden Chests.
Yes.Agreed... and unicorns do exist. Your odds of seeing one are 1:100 trillion. Welcome to plat-free arcane country.

Zapix
06-26-2014, 12:04 PM
I doubt it will be implemented. The argument will be that mythic and arcane items do drop from elite via Elite Golden Chests.

Your right this is a response taking the easy way out and trying not to admit there is a problem. I just hope we can work together with STS to find a solution since the core mechanics/game play are great! It's just the loot system that is flawed in a major way.

Crowsfoot
06-26-2014, 12:05 PM
Yes.Agreed... and unicorns do exist. Your odds of seeing one are 1:100 trillion. Welcome to plat-free arcane country.
Wait, what?

StompArtist
06-26-2014, 12:06 PM
Wait, what?

Aren't Rhinoceroses just fat unicorns?

Zapix
06-26-2014, 12:06 PM
You guys just brush this off but seriously make the items have a bit higher % out of crates and bingo they will still sell.

LordDravek
06-26-2014, 12:07 PM
Wait, what? I was validating your "argument " that would be expressed.

keikali
06-26-2014, 12:08 PM
You guys just brush this off but seriously make the items have a bit higher % out of crates and bingo they will still sell.

I would still prefer the chance of them dropping from Endgame Elite Bosses. Remember how WoW's looting system and loot table was? That was pretty close if not perfect.

Crowsfoot
06-26-2014, 12:10 PM
You guys just brush this off but seriously make the items have a bit higher % out of crates and bingo they will still sell.
I am not opposed to your suggestion. I just don't see it happening.

I apologize for the thread getting off course. I was distracted by the unicorn comment.

Raregem
06-26-2014, 12:10 PM
Taking away the reroll system is an interesting idea, but if they tried to do something like that many people would rage quit. A lot of people look forward to seeing that message saying they rerolled for better loot and in a way it makes runs a little more interesting. Plus they make money off of the luck elixirs. I do think the introduction of tradable kits has really had a major impact on the market and stuff has been way over farmed, maybe STS could adjust the drop system for reroll making it more rare.

Zapix
06-26-2014, 12:11 PM
Yes there needs to be a chance of a straight up drop off bosses. Otherwise really what is the point in farming.

Zapix
06-26-2014, 12:13 PM
Well they can sell elixirs still that help like Magic Find. Boom your Luck Elixir kicked in giving you a chance to get an item of more rarity.

keikali
06-26-2014, 12:14 PM
Well they can sell elixirs still that help like Magic Find. Boom your Luck Elixir kicked in giving you a chance to get an item of more rarity.

I lost it at Magic Find.

Selling IST runes, PM me.

Zapix
06-26-2014, 12:17 PM
Just imagine farming elites knowing there is a chance you could get a shard from the boss! You could even do an achievement like cracking the egg on all the bosses that would give you a slightly better chance at da goodies!

tharidom
06-26-2014, 12:23 PM
Just imagine farming elites knowing there is a chance you could get a shard from the boss! You could even do an achievement like cracking the egg on all the bosses that would give you a slightly better chance at da goodies!


Well they can sell elixirs still that help like Magic Find. Boom your Luck Elixir kicked in giving you a chance to get an item of more rarity.

Elixirs would barely earn sts anything and a shard from the boss or another arcane or mythic item would make everyone quit AL if it's so easy there's no more fun, magma's decrease in price super fast so myths and arcanes would have no more value if this would be implented in the game.

Kuragasi
06-26-2014, 12:25 PM
I lost it at Magic Find.

Selling IST runes, PM me.

ROFL, will trade for SOJ?

tharidom
06-26-2014, 12:31 PM
Oh yeah and theres a lot of these forums already

Zapix
06-26-2014, 12:33 PM
Elixirs would barely earn sts anything and a shard from the boss or another arcane or mythic item would make everyone quit AL if it's so easy there's no more fun, magma's decrease in price super fast so myths and arcanes would have no more value if this would be implented in the game.

I didn't say the drop rate would be high were talking like 1 in 10,000 for an item of that rarity. The fact of the matter is that there is a chance. The only way an influx of items would happen would be because more people are actually playing the game.

tharidom
06-26-2014, 12:37 PM
I didn't say the drop rate would be high were talking like 1 in 10,000 for an item of that rarity. The fact of the matter is that there is a chance. The only way an influx of items would happen would be because more people are actually playing the game.

This will stil mean that in 1 week theres already like 7/8 mythic or arcane items since 1 in 10000 is even more than locks (my opinion).

Zapix
06-26-2014, 12:40 PM
Well whatever the locked rate is the drop rate should be less it was just a guesstimation on my part.

Anarchist
06-26-2014, 04:17 PM
Seeing sts recent market moves, Energy balls and goblin goe event, i would be more than surprised to see this implementation.
Or sts finds other ways of getting revenue or they just agree to earn less money. While the first option is what they are actually trying to do now, see energy balls, the second is pure utopy.

Xpolosion
06-26-2014, 04:22 PM
They just need to focus on elites and how to make it worthwhile eliting

Anarchist
06-26-2014, 04:26 PM
And make events not loot weapons or armors but just vanties and pets or titles.

utpal
06-26-2014, 10:35 PM
I need raid system or survival system (without using potion, how much floor u can go)

Milan Lame Man
06-26-2014, 11:12 PM
Ok back to OP.
1. I can see no real (large volume) revenue source for STS other than Lockeds and energy.
2. What would you put in lockeds? The game is failing now, IMHO, because there is nothing worthwhile in them. If suddenly 41 myth jewelry is created and put in locks, everything will start moving again, even without your suggestions.
3. If STS expects energy to replace Locks, it is very badly presented. I can see the equivalence in a way - 15 plat can buy you a chance to run a map 3 times, or open 1 Locked. But you can see on the forums that plat players didn't quite see it this way. Plus it takes a lot of time to run the maps, something plat players often don't have.

So yes, there are ways to fix it, but dropping arcanes from elite bosses isn't the thing. Yes, it would be awesome to get Sammy from Inan, but 10000 runs? Uh.