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GuardianTwo
07-10-2014, 09:14 AM
1.Helena's most powerful attack can be broken when lady is winding it up by a warrior...
Chest splitter can break it.
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With this upgrade i could break that most of the time!!!


2. If you are in PUG for event run , but everyone else leaves the room seeing Helena after trying it for some time, then no one else from guild or friends can see a join button to join your map. But if you just reset the boss they can join!!!:chuncky:

Thanks for reading... If everyone knew this i am sorry to post it :tranquillity:

matanofx
07-10-2014, 09:16 AM
Thats some useful info im sure many arent aware of yet, thanks =]

GuardianTwo
07-10-2014, 09:26 AM
I thought almost all will be aware of these thing but yet there were people who told that everyone left seeing Helena and no one could help , so I posted it :)

Jig
07-10-2014, 09:31 AM
I didn't know either, thanks! It might come in handy sometime!

GuardianTwo
07-10-2014, 09:34 AM
Happy to help :biggrin:

utpal
07-10-2014, 09:38 AM
nice. that u shared. the reason I choose cs over hammer :)

Euldor
07-10-2014, 09:42 AM
I didn't know others could join after you reset a boss. Cool, thanks!

GuardianTwo
07-10-2014, 09:52 AM
I didn't know others could join after you reset a boss. Cool, thanks!

today only it happened that I got in PUG and got Ursoth but we all 4 were mages so couldnt kill .... all others left and i asked in GC and inv some but they couldnt see the join button. Then i tried to reset boss and they could join my map.. so its for sure that others can join u if u reset boss :)

Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 11:23 AM
Just tried, didn't work without charging CS. The attack is too fast. I'm personally better off holding aggro best I can and tanking through. If you have 2200 or more armor (easy with Druid will gear) and reasonable HP, she can't one hit you.

utpal
07-10-2014, 11:29 AM
Just tried, didn't work without charging CS. The attack is too fast. I'm personally better off holding aggro best I can and tanking through. If you have 2200 or more armor (easy with Druid will gear) and reasonable HP, she can't one hit you.

and with jugg top of it, she hits ur 10-20%hp.

Schnitzel
07-10-2014, 01:12 PM
um..kinda off topic, whats PUG?

Dex Scene
07-10-2014, 02:17 PM
I always select Jugg and Veng both when I see Helena to tank my party lol!!
Nice thread I'll definitely try the staggering blow :3 thanks man

Dex Scene
07-10-2014, 02:18 PM
um..kinda off topic, whats PUG?
I believe its pick up game. Running maps with Random people

Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 02:23 PM
and with jugg top of it, she hits ur 10-20%hp.
I don't use Jugg in boss fights. Doesn't help against one hits in elite and the cool down is too long. I prefer VB and just using as much armor as needed. Higher damage output and more consistent survival.

Been using this for Helena:
CS
Axe
VB
HoR

utpal
07-10-2014, 03:00 PM
I don't use Jugg in boss fights. Doesn't help against one hits in elite and the cool down is too long. I prefer VB and just using as much armor as needed. Higher damage output and more consistent survival.

Been using this for Helena:
CS
Axe
VB
HoR

nice. but u need a good mage so that axe shouldn't go to vines.

for pugs, I use ur above build except axe, I use hammer.(when 2 war including me)

and use ur above build except axe, I use jugg. (when only 1 war and others mage and rogue, its defense mode :D)

Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 03:11 PM
nice. but u need a good mage so that axe shouldn't go to vines.

for pugs, I use ur above build except axe, I use hammer.(when 2 war including me)

and use ur above build except axe, I use jugg. (when only 1 war and others mage and rogue, its defense mode :D)
Axe is directional. It has a small radius in front of you that takes priority (maybe 180°?) unless no targets are in front of you are in range. The range of axe is hard to describe since I can just know looking at the screen whether or not something is in range.
*Note: Axe has a range of priority smaller than its maximum range. Therefore, a mob in range may be over prioritized by a mob directly behind you if the intended target is too far away. There are several other quirks to axe, but those are for you to find out. Practice makes perfect.

I stand a few paces back from Helena so if vines get in my way, I can walk toward thus bow putting the vines behind me. Axe will now always hut Helena since she is the only target in front of me.

If the vines are too close to Helena, they usually flank one side. Let's say the left, just as an example. angling myself to the right will always hit her since she is the closest target. CS and 1 or 2 hits of basic attack will clear any vines that are unavoidable (will only happen if she gets stuck in the top right corner by the tree where you can only see health bars).

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Tactical use of axe is crucial. I highly encourage practicing your aiming of Axe. A good place to test it is Elite rooks nest. The first pull has several archer and several archers (you want a mix) pick a specific mob you wish to hit and practice knowing the above information.

Ishtmeet
07-10-2014, 03:13 PM
This is nice idea but so sad i am one of the tanks, who doesn't uses chest splitter for tanking :3

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Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 03:15 PM
@OP 5/5 CS? Decimate almost never works and the push back makes you lose aggro. :(

tharidom
07-10-2014, 04:21 PM
and with jugg top of it, she hits ur 10-20%hp.

Sorry but 10/20% then u have quite low armor or hp with jug on I survive with around 43% hp.

Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 04:34 PM
Sorry but 10/20% then u have quite low armor or hp with jug on I survive with around 43% hp.
61% :p

tharidom
07-10-2014, 06:02 PM
61% :p

Not as rich as a certain person >_>.

Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 06:04 PM
Not as rich as a certain person >_>.
If you buy a cheaper archon, and clean or regular gem gear; I have less than 1mil in gear.

Disregarding supers, I only have 3-4mil in gear at the moment. I haven't run any event maps with the bulwark yet.

tharidom
07-10-2014, 06:07 PM
If you buy a cheaper archon, and clean or regular gem gear; I have less than 1mil in gear.

Disregarding supers, I only have 3-4mil in gear at the moment. I haven't run any event maps with the bulwark yet.

I have archon of fatality already:)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/thaar11/F2CBBFC0-7630-49F9-B6B6-136BCE5FB156_zpse1sjelqp.png (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/thaar11/media/F2CBBFC0-7630-49F9-B6B6-136BCE5FB156_zpse1sjelqp.png.html)

These are my stats (my own wilds amulet is in upgrade).

Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 06:14 PM
I have archon of fatality already:)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/thaar11/F2CBBFC0-7630-49F9-B6B6-136BCE5FB156_zpse1sjelqp.png (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/thaar11/media/F2CBBFC0-7630-49F9-B6B6-136BCE5FB156_zpse1sjelqp.png.html)

These are my stats (my own wilds amulet is in upgrade).
So you have the two most expensive pieces. My other pieces of gear are a conqueror's wall of potency and a druid will set (less than 50k for all three items).

tharidom
07-10-2014, 06:15 PM
So you have the two most expensive pieces. My other gear is a conqueror's wall of potency and a druid will set (less than 50k).

I use ancient armor of potency,myth helm,goblin glaive.

Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 06:18 PM
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So I'm rich for using cheaper gear :dejection:

tharidom
07-10-2014, 06:20 PM
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Cant see it:/ maybe this was the thing that sts ment with posting to much pics(on the sticky forums at the contest forum this can be read).

tharidom
07-10-2014, 06:21 PM
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So I'm rich for using cheaper gear :dejection:

U did use like all my dream weaps (glaive,maul,whatever cool things u also have used:/).

Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 06:39 PM
U did use like all my dream weaps (glaive,maul,whatever cool things u also have used:/).
My weapons (by season):
1) Gravity Well of Force (was a mage in season 1)
2) Arctic Ward of Will and a Dark Watch Sword of Assault (sold after two weeks)
3) Storm Sword of Potency
4) Northern Tower of Savvy and later an Entombed Hammer of Warfare
5) Entombed Hammer of Warfare (lvl 35) and later the Fortified Glaive of Tactics
6) Conqueror's Wall of Potency/Magmatic Claymore of Will and now I am replacing the Conqueror's Wall with the Bulwark.

Facts:
-Season 1 I actually became a semi-wealthy player merching chests and eggs.
-I lost 2mil (a lot of gold at the time) in season 2 and never recovered. I was scammed, but never cried over it. I was left with just over 50k.
-I farmed elite SS for hours but never looted anything more than 5k from an EGP. I opened hundreds.
-I lost 600k (a lot at the time) attempting to merch. I haven't attempted to merch since due to my inability to judge when crates will be mass opened and my lack of funds to invest in the more profitable items.
-I ran 20+ oltagrs a day and finally looted mythic mage armor from an EGW, I bought a warrior's myth armor with the funds and started my trek towards top gear for the first season ever. I had at most had 2-3 maxed pieces prior to season 4 and never had a maxed weapon.
-I was only able to afford the pavise once there was less than a month left in season 4.

tharidom
07-10-2014, 06:45 PM
My weapons (by season):
1) Gravity Well of Force (was a mage in season 1)
2) Arctic Ward of Will and a Dark Watch Sword of Assault (sold after two weeks)
3) Storm Sword of Potency
4) Northern Tower of Savvy and later an Entombed Hammer of Warfare
5) Entombed Hammer of Warfare (lvl 35) and later the Fortified Glaive of Tactics
6) Conqueror's Wall of Potency/Magmatic Claymore of Will and now I am replacing the Conqueror's Wall with the Bulwark.

Facts:
-Season 1 I actually became a semi-wealthy player merching chests and eggs.
-I lost 2mil (a lot of gold at the time) in season 2 and never received. I was scammed, but never cried over it. I was left with just over 50k.
-I farmed elite SS for hours but never looted anything more than 5k from an EGP. I opened hundreds.
-I lost 600k (a lot at the time) attempting to merch. I haven't attempted to merch since due to my inability to judge when crates will be mass opened and my lack of funds to invest in the more profitable items.
-I ran 20+ oltagrs a day and finally looted mythic mage armor from an EGW, I bought a warrior's myth armor with the funds and started my trek towards top gear for the first season ever. I had at most had 2-3 maxed pieces prior to season 4 and never had a maxed weapon.
-I was only able to afford the pavise once there was less than a month left in season 4.

Lol started my acc

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/thaar11/D1E68480-B150-43C0-BA3C-6307D62A3A5C_zpsh2vouiyv.jpg (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/thaar11/media/D1E68480-B150-43C0-BA3C-6307D62A3A5C_zpsh2vouiyv.jpg.html)

So have no idea what everything was worth those days.

Crowsfoot
07-10-2014, 06:47 PM
Lol started my acc

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/thaar11/D1E68480-B150-43C0-BA3C-6307D62A3A5C_zpsh2vouiyv.jpg (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/thaar11/media/D1E68480-B150-43C0-BA3C-6307D62A3A5C_zpsh2vouiyv.jpg.html)

So have no idea what everything was worth those days.
The maximum gold you could carry used to be 9,999,999. Arcane hooks were once 5mil if memory serves.

GuardianTwo
07-10-2014, 10:54 PM
Just tried, didn't work without charging CS. The attack is too fast. I'm personally better off holding aggro best I can and tanking through. If you have 2200 or more armor (easy with Druid will gear) and reasonable HP, she can't one hit you.
I used to charge it every time normally, but sometimes even non-charged attack too broke it, maybe it breaks with some %chance if non-charge. But who cares lol , we have enough time to charge it . :)


@OP 5/5 CS? Decimate almost never works and the push back makes you lose aggro. :(
This is like 1.5-2month old build, I was playing with my mage since then... And I didn't knew much of these builds lol, but if you see that push sometimes help, if some dps is stuck in those vine from ground , and by mistake u use uncharged CS it atleast pushes Helena and thus its line of action of attack displaces lol, so dps is saved!!! What do u think about this? And I have experienced this thing..

utpal
07-10-2014, 11:22 PM
Sorry but 10/20% then u have quite low armor or hp with jug on I survive with around 43% hp.

sorry, of u didn't understand what I meant,
but
I said Helena hits "YOUR" 10-20% HP when jugg is active.
so I meant, Helena hits crowsfoot to 80-90% (since he has 6.5k+ HP and 2.6k+ armour )
when jugg active.
Didn't said Helena hits crowsfoot TO 10-20% HP lol.

and I use 6.1k HP and 2.5k armour in Helena (my Max stats)
so my stats is good. and she hits me to 30-40% and when jugg active, she hits me to 50-60%

seems like u got low HP and armour since she hits you to 43% to u even when ur jugg active LOL.
when she crits, i bet u get one shot. and i m 100% sure u use lvl36 mythic set with conqueror wall.

tharidom
07-11-2014, 03:13 AM
sorry, of u didn't understand what I meant,
but
I said Helena hits "YOUR" 10-20% HP when jugg is active.
so I meant, Helena hits crowsfoot to 80-90% (since he has 6.5k+ HP and 2.6k+ armour )
when jugg active.
Didn't said Helena hits crowsfoot TO 10-20% HP lol.

and I use 6.1k HP and 2.5k armour in Helena (my Max stats)
so my stats is good. and she hits me to 30-40% and when jugg active, she hits me to 50-60%

seems like u got low HP and armour since she hits you to 43% to u even when ur jugg active LOL.
when she crits, i bet u get one shot. and i m 100% sure u use lvl36 mythic set with conqueror wall.

And if u read my other messages u can see that I don't use those, I use a goblin glaive, myth helm, ancient potency armor, archon fatality, wild will.