How am I doing?

[Deanoboi]

Currently level 26, these are my stats, can someone let me know how I'm doing so far? I'm PvE with dual wield weapons, please see the spec I have been using and please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Thank you for looking.

[SacredKnight]

I was going to give you some advice, then I realised I don't know the first thing about being a rogue .-.

[Zeus]

You'll definitely need to respec:

- All points into dexterity
- 5/5 Aimed Shot
- 4/5 Veil (No Combustion Upgrade)
- 1/5 Piercer (No upgrades)
- 5/5 Nox (charge nox to stack AOE dott)

Aimed shot is the boss killer! It's vital in ANY rogue build.

[Atten]

How did you contain the word "***" in your name? Lol

[Deanoboi]

You'll definitely need to respec:

- All points into dexterity
- 5/5 Aimed Shot
- 4/5 Veil (No Combustion Upgrade)
- 1/5 Piercer (No upgrades)
- 5/5 Nox (charge nox to stack AOE dott)

Aimed shot is the boss killer! It's vital in ANY rogue build.

Ok thank you for the info, when it comes to shadow piercer do I not want the healing upgrade? Iv gotten very use to using it when 50% hp ish, also what do I do with the spare points? I though surly having 5/5 on all my 4 skills is the way to go?

[Deanoboi]

You need to understand the purpose of your character. Anything that doesn't increase your dmg output significantly is a luxury. Look at the skill upgrades and find out more about what they do for your ability to deal dmg. If it doesn't do that, it's a wasted skill/stat point. Being lvl26 means you have to be practical with the limited number of points you have.

I'll use Zeus's suggested build as an example. Maxed Dex stat points
points increases your dmg and crit%. Aimed shot with maxed upgrades is the primary dmg dealer for any rogue and also the primary dmg multiplying skill (read fine print of each upgrade to appreciate why). Nox bolt deals single target dmg and also has dmg multiplying upgrades. Veil doesn't deal dmg on its own but upgrading it appropriately increases dmg output as well as survivability. Shadow pierce (uncharged) deals decent dmg but the upgrades are a luxury or a waste of time (again, read fine print or if you have plat to spare go test out the upgrades to see my point). The hp recovery upgrade is nice to have but if you're a pve rogue then you have pots for that purpose.

IN SUMMARY- scrutinize your rogue! Getting better means you be meticulous about finding out more about your toon and how each tweak changes it and makes it better. Don't be restricted to dubious dictums eg. "Maxing out a skill is always the way to go". Instead explore your character in an unrestricted way and you'll have yourself a practical build you know will work for you, just like how we all did so long ago.

Thank you :)

[Deanoboi]

Also when using dual wield I wanna aim for high DPS, if using a bow I wanna be aiming for Damage?

[nelson131]

i use heal and multi target on sp... though u shouls follow saf. she"s op

[Soundlesskill]

All main points to DEX
5/5 Aimed shot
4/5 Nox, no range
4/5 veil no explosion
you can go trap or piercer here, but i suggest you go for pierce, because if you went trap, you'd have to not get veil because another one in your party should have it. Dont think about it tho because its only something you do when youre like.. running lb runs.
2/5 piercer, I personally get the heal upgrade, because I like it, but you dont really need it #PotSpam
Also 5/5 passive dex, 5/5 int, dmg or crit. Up to you, it doesnt really matter much.
Sorry my uber bad grammar, but I'm lazy. Dont ever charge nox unless you do like wt4 runs or idk.. just normal maps... nevermind just dont ever charge nox or pierce. AS Can be charged, but most players dont. gl

[Myica]

hello guys. I'm sorry if I do not write well in English.
I think leading dagger (pierce shadow) is a good upgrade. Following the Safira's reasoning this update allows us to do more damage. What do you think?

Myica :)

[Zuorsyra]

I dunno why people always use nox, I use razor shield it grants 20% dodge dis way I can survive a little longer when fighting mobs..

[Alrisaia]

Where are all the rogue guides? Where are all the rogues who help new players? What is a warrior doing in here insulting a new player? What happened to the community? :grumpy:

Thanks to Saf, Zeus, and Noisy :)


Also when using dual wield I wanna aim for high DPS, if using a bow I wanna be aiming for Damage?

DPS is a simple formula:
damage * attacks per second = DPS

So, here's one way to look at that:

the faster a weapon is, the higher it's DPS is, assuming the DAMAGE of the weapon is equal. For instance, if you had a bow and a pair of daggers that had equal damage, the DPS would be substantially higher on the daggers since they're faster. The damage for your skills would be equal - since the skills use the Damage stat and not the DPS stat.

Typically however, you'll find that sacrificing DPS in order to get a higher Damage score will yield far better results in the long run. Consider how often you're using skills vs using the autoattack button. If you're using the build above, you barely have time to tap the autoattack button since you're busy spamming your skills. In fact, the cycle for Aimed shot, Nox bolt, Pierce is just about perfectly timed so that there are very few autoattack opportunities.

To answer your question directly, no you should always aim for damage if you use skills most often. If you find yourself tapping autoattack most often, you should focus on DPS.

- Alri

[Deanoboi]

Thanks guys lots help much appreciated :)

I prefer bow now I find it's dmg to be better tbh and easier soloing :)

[UndeadJudge]

hello guys. I'm sorry if I do not write well in English.
I think leading dagger (pierce shadow) is a good upgrade. Following the Safira's reasoning this update allows us to do more damage. What do you think?

Myica :)

Charged pierce does less damage than tapping pierce for whatever reason.


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[Newcomx]

IMO, better change your veil to trap... your damage too low... 15% dmg from 181 maybe just below 30 dmg + you using bow. You can achieve it by using pet. Except you often run with Warr. 20% armor help warr. Maybe if you already achieve higher dmg u can change to veil again. CMIIW

[Soundlesskill]

I dunno why people always use nox, I use razor shield it grants 20% dodge dis way I can survive a little longer when fighting mobs..

It has a longer cooldown, that's why it's not seen as much :)
For raising PvE kill count (WT4), razor shield is good.

[Soundlesskill]

Where are all the rogue guides? Where are all the rogues who help new players? What is a warrior doing in here insulting a new player? What happened to the community? :grumpy:

Thanks to Saf, Zeus, and Noisy :)



DPS is a simple formula:
damage * attacks per second = DPS

So, here's one way to look at that:

the faster a weapon is, the higher it's DPS is, assuming the DAMAGE of the weapon is equal. For instance, if you had a bow and a pair of daggers that had equal damage, the DPS would be substantially higher on the daggers since they're faster. The damage for your skills would be equal - since the skills use the Damage stat and not the DPS stat.

Typically however, you'll find that sacrificing DPS in order to get a higher Damage score will yield far better results in the long run. Consider how often you're using skills vs using the autoattack button. If you're using the build above, you barely have time to tap the autoattack button since you're busy spamming your skills. In fact, the cycle for Aimed shot, Nox bolt, Pierce is just about perfectly timed so that there are very few autoattack opportunities.

To answer your question directly, no you should always aim for damage if you use skills most often. If you find yourself tapping autoattack most often, you should focus on DPS.

- Alri

+ The main reason you aim for a higher damamge stats is because a rouge is purposely in the game or Single Target Damage. As a rouge your job is to focus down the bigger mobs and the boss, with DPS you will slow yourself in comparison to bursting down a boss with higher crit and damage boost.

[tortugarabioso]

Don't use SSS, completely worthless, and nice name btw.