Ridiculous BUG in ctf

[Zynzyn]

When is the ridiculous pet damage-boost bug in ctf for rogues going to be fixed? We already know that only rogues in ctf are not getting their pet's dmg boost. New pets are being released but what about fixing of this pet damage bug first? Can we know when is the fix coming up?

These are ctf room stats for Rogue and Tank twinks (for example both lvl 14, both maxed out and both with same pet). I am wearing maxed gear (rogue) and the tank in the picture is also wearing maxed gear. Suppose we duel, how will it be a fair match?

As seen in the pics, there is a noticeable damage difference which is so inappropriate according to class. The tank has almost same mana with ancient pot gear (plus dova regen plus vengebuff mana recovery), more armor, more health and "more dmg" too?!! How is this balanced?

Because Rogues are not getting the damage-boost from pets and tanks are getting, it is impossible to enjoy pvp like this in a ctf room. Highly imbalanced is the phrase.



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Rogues used to be squishy but damaging and tanks used to be tanks. Now tanks are becoming tanky rogues with neverending mana. Atleast the pet damage boost for rogues in ctf should be fixed soon.

[dannyrse]

This bug needs to be fixed immediately its pathetic how this is diminshing our stats this isnt fair on all rogues so do somerhing about it!

[Vaeriu]

It's kinda weird how this is a big issue and that it (obviously) adversely affects a rogue's pvp standard in ctf.
STS pls do something about it, this is NOT fair.
Sure rogues are op but don't nerf us like this v.v lol

[Bigboyblue]

That kdr O.o. Doesn't really look like the nerf is affecting you that much. 6.75 kills : 1 death. You're doing very well already.

[Madnex]

They've said that they're looking into changing how the buffs/debuffs system works -- which is what's causing this -- so.. perhaps after the skill system refinements, this will be addressed.

[Zynzyn]

That kdr O.o. Doesn't really look like the nerf is affecting you that much. 6.75 kills : 1 death. You're doing very well already.

First off, the nerf affecting me is out of question, because my point is not the damage nerf in ctf. No part of my thread says that I am not ok with the rogue damage nerf in ctf, does it? 10% dmg nerf is not the issue of this thread, Bigboyblue. This thread is about pet damage boost not being received by rogues in ctf.

[Omisace]

IMO the class is already OP in PvP because even with this dmg buff bug from pets present they still dominate the leaderboards. These stat adjustments on all classes in PvP works in a way to make battles more balanced. So if atm rogues are OP even while "bugged", I doubt StS would change this. Remember, your class might be a bit lacking in dmg but you have these skills that are most deadly in PvP so even if you're fighting a warrior with a slightly higher dmg than you he wouldn't be able to one shot your nor crit you with half of your max HP.

[Bigboyblue]

First off, the nerf affecting me is out of question, because my point is not the damage nerf in ctf. No part of my thread says that I am not ok with the rogue damage nerf in ctf, does it? 10% dmg nerf is not the issue of this thread, Bigboyblue. This thread is about pet damage boost not being received by rogues in ctf.

I didn't mention the 10% damage nerf did I? Just said you were doing well regardless. It was actually a compliment. I know my post didn't address the post topic. Was just saying you were doing well.

[Madnex]

IMO the class is already OP in PvP because even with this dmg buff bug from pets present they still dominate the leaderboards. These stat adjustments on all classes in PvP works in a way to make battles more balanced. So if atm rogues are OP even while "bugged", I doubt StS would change this. Remember, your class might be a bit lacking in dmg but you have these skills that are most deadly in PvP so even if you're fighting a warrior with a slightly higher dmg than you he wouldn't be able to one shot your nor crit you with half of your max HP.
They should and they will. It's not just the pet's damage buff that is canceled, the whole buff/debuff system is flawed. Fix what's wrong with the core game mechanisms and then we can discuss about adjustments to balance smaller parts of the game.

[Speedofsound]

Fixing the dmg nerf in ctf would ruin endgame pvp. I use the new bow and samael and tdm where the nerf is not applied i have killed tanks in 1-2 combos. Every rogue who gets comboed dies instantly unless they wear an arcane ring

[Ishtmeet]

My lvl 12 had 113.9 damage, all grand gems and rogue having 100 damage was giving a good fight to me.
Rogue need skill to kill a warrior. They are already OP with those ridiculous crits.

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[Zynzyn]

My lvl 12 had 113.9 damage, all grand gems and rogue having 100 damage

Thanks for the input. Its confirms my point that Tanks are getting a lot more damage than Rogues in ctf (twinklevel). This damage difference between tank and rogue doesnt seem right, since Rogue is the damage class, tank isnt. Its all haywire now in ctf. And yes the pet dmg buff will be fixed soon, hopefully.

[Ishtmeet]

Thanks for the input. This damage difference between tank and rogue doesnt seem right, since Rogue is the damage class, tank isnt. Its all haywire now in ctf. And yes the pet dmg buff will be fixed soon, hopefully.

If tanks are nor meant to deal damage, how can we kill rogues? Yes we need damage to kill them. They are too op and this nerf doesnt make any changes.

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[MoloToha]

Is it just a stat show bug, or damage is really reduced in PvP for rogues?

[Bigboyblue]

Is it just a stat show bug, or damage is really reduced in PvP for rogues?

Damage gets a 10% debuff in ctf. Also a damage pet does not add any damage. It is not a display issue. However TDM does not have this applied to it. It's only for ctf.

[Madnex]

Is it just a stat show bug, or damage is really reduced in PvP for rogues?
Not a display bug.

Debuffs take precedence over buffs. So imagine what a stable -10% damage debuff means in CTF for rogues; it means that no other damage buff, be it damage bonus from pet, damage bonus from Shadow Veil, damage bonus from passive etc. will get nullified as if it's not even there AND afterwards, the -10% debuff takes effect. That leads to damage debuffs of -20% and up, something that was obviously not the intended result.

[Cero]

Tdm doesnt have this dmg nerf so if you dont like ctf's dmg nerf try tdm.

[Crazymobkiller]

Im sick and fed up with this stupid nerf. no dmg boost at all

[Zynzyn]

Not a display bug.

Debuffs take precedence over buffs. So imagine what a stable -10% damage debuff means in CTF for rogues; it means that no other damage buff, be it damage bonus from pet, damage bonus from Shadow Veil, damage bonus from passive etc. will get nullified as if it's not even there AND afterwards, the -10% debuff takes effect. That leads to damage debuffs of -20% and up, something that was obviously not the intended result.


This.:encouragement: He totally understood the issue and has articulated it very well.

[kinzmet]

Whatever we say in this thread doesn't matter. The devs are busy on the nekros thingy. -.-"
Damage nerf is OK! But please fix the pet damage buff, skill damage buff, and item proc damage buff!
They have the time to code for the new pet/quest, but the OLD damage buff issue? NOTHING! (fainted)

[ItsGhostu]

Whatever we say in this thread doesn't matter. The devs are busy on the nekros thingy. -.-"
Damage nerf is OK! But please fix the pet damage buff, skill damage buff, and item proc damage buff!
They have the time to code for the new pet/quest, but the OLD damage buff issue? NOTHING! (fainted)

Agreed, we didn't waste our golds and plats for NOTHING.
Something should be done to fix this %dmg from our pets, we 'waste millions to buy hj, singe or samael so that we dont receive the dmg boost in ctf. :mad:

[Vaeriu]

The main issue is
1) Why just us rogues? You may be like 'Oh crap rogues are so OP' but if rogues get such a big debuff at ctf, against good warriors at lower twink lvls, where rogues don't crit insanely, we exhaust our mana just to get the tanks to 40% then get back to scrambling for packs. That is not fair. You can even see a distinct difference when you are fighting a guild war in ctf and tdm, the damage difference is extremely noticeable.
2) The problem isn't the damage nerf, I wouldn't really care if its a dmg nerf, but pet damage % boosts do not show on ctf for rogues. Rogues. And only rogues.
3) Rogues are never too OP, just like look. Tanks get invulnerability for 2 seconds, a HOT which (assuming rogues don't crit) actually heals more than what we deal. They have vb, which makes me cry if they get a dws proc as well (It hurts T.T) and then they have the insane juggernaut. 3 healing moves. 3. Good tanks at ctf with a dps weapon (not devourer :<) will likely exceed a rogue's dmg and dps. Well I understand that rogue skills are meant to do damage but, the crit stacks from aimed shot are greatly hindered by warrior stuns, hor's shield and interruptions from wind ups. And then factor in that ridiculous dmg nerf. It's not very pleasant to be a rogue these days *-* I'll be stuck in tdm for a while lol

[Excuses]

You should play pvp with warrior on end game before you complain about class adjust in pvp.
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I would rather say ctf and tdm should have same adjustment cuz they both r pvp room. But pet dmg% should work in both map imo too.

[Speedofsound]

I think they should nerf rogue damage in tdm aswell or nerf the mythic bow because in tdm i run samael and new mythic bow and i can insta combo warriors.