Better than Savage

[Dolloway]

The new level 77 STR set is better than Savage in every stat but base damage by about 40, but the skill damage is better than Savage by about 10 dmg for every skill. Also, the new sword has a -12% hit debuff dark proc. It's kind of like Orlok vs. Demonic, where Demonic has the higher base dmg.

New Lustrous STR set:

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n539/exitlude/imagejpg1-6.jpg

Savage:

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n539/exitlude/imagejpg1-7.jpg

[synfullmagic_23110]

Yup noticed that too

with L75 gear a bit off tho

Still have 2.7k plat >_> share sum

[SillyJuan]

What about dex set?

[Heroelite]

There r no sparkles for full set? :\/

[synfullmagic_23110]

There r no sparkles for full set? :\/

U can see the small blue particle in his shoulders

[Hahahahabirdy]

Woot! Great news! :D

[Xyzther]

Id say in new set vs savage in a fight, it would be pretty close and come down to skill

[Xyzther]

Also if anyone gets the dex set, I'd really like to see the comparison of that and swift ;o

[Ssneakykills]

I'm close to finished new set just need 77 armour now to have full dex set

[synfullmagic_23110]

I'm close to finished new set just need 77 armour now to have full dex set

Dagger (if there is one since L25 has dagger set) or bow?

[KingFu]

Id say in new set vs savage in a fight, it would be pretty close and come down to total luck like before

Ftfy

[XghostzX]

Dollo, do you have any clue if crafting will come into action? I wasn't sure only because I may have missed something reading through the announcements.

Edit: That dodge is still too high...

[Trenton]

Dollo, do you have any clue if crafting will come into action? I wasn't sure only because I may have missed something reading through the announcements.

Edit: That dodge is still too high...
What do you mean if crafting will come into action? That is the crafted set if you didn't know

[dudetus]

Lol.
What do you even as if it was only then while?

[XghostzX]

What do you mean if crafting will come into action? That is the crafted set if you didn't know

I didn't know, I barely log on ahah. Didn't realize there was craftable gear.

[Trenton]

I didn't know, I barely log on ahah. Didn't realize their was craftable gear.
Yes, they turn from the onyx looking gear to that, if I'm not mistaken.

[Matutd]

Ftfy

Nice sig. Guess i cant use it now, I'll prob get banned for pretending to be u

[tarlan]

dang that increase is huge, anyone to not level to 77 must be an idiot

[Xyzther]

Ftfy

I've seen many bear vs bear fights, one bear beat another 10-0 twice, they had the same gear and neither had an elite ring. Now are you gonna tell me the bear that won was extremely lucky or maybe he was more skillful?

[KingFu]

I've seen many bear vs bear fights, one bear beat another 10-0 twice, they had the same gear and neither had an elite ring. Now are you gonna tell me the bear that won was extremely lucky or maybe he was more skillful?

Can't a bear be so awful that no amount of luck can save it?

[iiirootzz]

I've seen many bear vs bear fights, one bear beat another 10-0 twice, they had the same gear and neither had an elite ring. Now are you gonna tell me the bear that won was extremely lucky or maybe he was more skillful?

Can't a bear be so awful that no amount of luck can save it?

Not when using savage.

[KingFu]

Not when using savage.

That...pretty much supports my initial post.

[Oldcoot]

I've seen many bear vs bear fights, one bear beat another 10-0 twice, they had the same gear and neither had an elite ring. Now are you gonna tell me the bear that won was extremely lucky or maybe he was more skillful?

Can't a bear be so awful that no amount of luck can save it?

Yes, yes I can

[Xyzther]

Can't a bear be so awful that no amount of luck can save it?

I don't remember exactly who the people fighting were but I remember one had a positive kdr and one had one that was like 200 neg so I'd say the one with the negative couldn't have been THAT bad, but still less skillful than the other bear

[Ssneakykills]

Dagger (if there is one since L25 has dagger set) or bow?

Bow

[Waug]

I'm only interested to c the skill dmg comparasion atm to get the bigger and actual picture.


base dmg has been decreased for dex and str sets increasing the dps while it has been increased in int set so something interestimg happened in that perspective.

[Sheugokin]

I'm only interested to c the skill dmg comparasion atm to get the bigger and actual picture.


base dmg has been decreased for dex and str sets increasing the dps while it has been increased in int set so something interestimg happened in that perspective.


Im pretty sure that it is a good thing that int sets got a boost because int mages need to support while nukng the opposing force. So it will make sense to increase damage and a little more armor.


I will be very upset if the new int set can be beaten by savage or if the int set is also u derpowered again against the other two new sets.

[Waug]

^ dats the trick new int set needed to get bit more armor but in oppose it got significant DMG boost but very little armor boost, as I said we need to c the skill DMG to get the actual picture tho..

[Stevenmc]

^ dats the trick new int set needed to get bit more armor but in oppose it got significant DMG boost but very little armor boost, as I said we need to c the skill DMG to get the actual picture tho..

The Mage damage was fine at 76, the problem was the dodge of sets. You could have 2000 damage and not be able to kill something that dodges 8 times in a row.

[Dolloway]

Toffee said new int set is bad and only adds more damage/crit over Fiery. I believe he said it has the same armor as Fiery, but I'm not sure.

[Whirlzap]

Here are some raw data taken just from examining pink set pieces. Note that set bonuses were NOT taken into account for either of the two sets, and that the added INT for each set contributes to adding more of the other stats (mainly Mana Pool). For instance, Fiery Scepter set definitely has more Damage than 243-273, but this is due to taking Set Bonus and INT attributes into account.

Fiery Scepter Set VS Lustrous Energy Wand Set:

Base Fiery (per Set Piece) Stats: 42 Int, 6% Hit, 12% Crit, 5 H/s, 6 Mana, 6 M/s

Base Lustrous Energy (per Set Piece) Stats: 46 Int, 6% Hit, 12% Crit, 6 H/s, 7 Mana, 7 M/s

Improvement per Set Piece: 4 Int, 1 H/s, 1 Mana, 1 M/s

Total Fiery Set Stats (without Set Bonus): 168 Int, 24% Hit, 48% Crit, 20 H/s, 24 Mana, 24 M/s, 243-273 Damage, 213 Armor

Total Lustrous Energy Stats (without Set Bonus): 184 Int, 24% Hit, 48% Crit, 24 H/s, 28 Mana, 28 M/s, 280-305 Damage, 216 Armor

Total Improvement (without Set Bonus): 16 Int, 4 H/s, 4 Mana, 4 M/s, 32-37 Damage, 3 Armor

Basically, the Lustrous Energy set DOES provide improvement, but mainly through defensive terms (regeneration) and some damage. Surprising lack of armor though, however, this might point to the Set Bonus (for which I did not account in these comparisons) for Lustrous Energy set including a substantial armor boost over Fiery.

Swift Elite VS Lustrous Fury:

Base Swift (per Set Piece) Stats: 42 Dex, 12% Hit, 9% Crit, 4 H/s, 3 Mana, 5 M/s

Bow of the Phoenix Stats: 263-303 Damage, 0.9 Speed, 42 Dex, 1% Dodge, 9% Hit, 12% Crit, 5 H/s, 2 Mana, 5 M/s, 32 Armor

Base Lustrous Fury (per Set Piece) Stats: 46 Dex, 12% Hit, 9% Crit, 4 H/s, 4 Mana, 6 M/s

Improvement per Set Piece: 4 Dex, 1 Mana, 1 M/s

Total Swift Elite Set Stats (without Set Bonus): 126 Dex, 33% Hit, 30% Crit, 13 H/s, 1% Dodge, 8 Mana, 15 M/s, 319-359 Damage, 173 Armor

Total Lustrous Fury Stats (without Set Bonus): 138 Dex, 36% Hit, 27% Crit, 12 H/s, 12 Mana, 18 M/s, 308-348 Damage, 163 Armor

Total Improvement (without Set Bonus): 12 Dex, 3% Hit, 4 Mana, 3 M/s

Loss: 3% Crit, 1 H/s, 1% Dodge, 11 Damage, 10 Armor

NOTE that these results are misleading, as the ELITE Bow of Phoenix is part of the Swift Elite set, whereas only a pink Lustrous Bow of Earthen Fury is part of the Lustrous Fury set. The Swift Elite Bow itself is already quite overpowered in the amount of armor that it supplies a bird. Thus, the seemingly huge loss in using Lustrous Fury set is a direct result of an overpowered Bow of Phoenix's stats. That said, set bonuses were not added into these calculations, so in the end, results might differ. However, if it were not for Set Bonuses, the best results for a L77 endgame Archer could be obtained using an ELITE Bow of Phoenix and the Lustrous Fury Crown and Cuirass.

I won't post anything for STR as Dolloway's thread post better demonstrates the difference/improvement in stats. For now, though, above are the DEX and INT ESTIMATES, which could DEFINITELY be misleading, as Set Bonuses have a HUGE factor in adding superiority in terms of endgame sets.

[Dolloway]

Here's the stats on the Lustrous bow set vs. the Phoenix bow set:

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n539/exitlude/imagejpg1-8.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n539/exitlude/imagejpg2-2.jpg

I believe he told me that the skill damage is +16 over the Phoenix set for every skill on the minimum and maximum damage stats.

[tarlan]

less armor damage and crit, who wouldn't want

[SillyJuan]

Survivability > dmg anyday

[tarlan]

Survivability > dmg anyday
tell that to new gear

[Trenton]

Something has to be done about the bow set... We'll be seeing more and more warbirds if this is the true new set stats.

[tarlan]

Something has to be done about the bow set... We'll be seeing more and more warbirds if this is the true new set stats.

all the sets are very lacking in armor
if a health pool increase was maybe added as set bonus might help too

[Ssneakykills]

all the sets are very lacking in armor
if a health pool increase was maybe added as set bonus might help too

I agree of simply just a armour boost a little

[Sheugokin]

I wonder why StS would not ask for some feedback for some stat on the sets before the release of the sets. I'm not saying that StS should show us the new sets, just stat wise.

[Supershopper]

There r no sparkles for full set? :\/

There is a very small sparkles... maybe need magnifer to see them -.-

[Heroelite]

There is a very small sparkles... maybe need magnifer to see them -.-

lmao they could have even recycled one... like maybe the savage or glyph fires but a blue color, but instead they make the most elite set in the game have less impressive sparkles than the regular 25 ssc sets!

[synfullmagic_23110]

I wonder why StS would not ask for some feedback for some stat on the sets before the release of the sets. I'm not saying that StS should show us the new sets, just stat wise.

Cause we would probably say
Max on ER thang

[Bous]

Now egg set vs new str set

[iamthesurvivor]

Every1 says they farm their sets Instead of buying them. Do 77 items drop well m

[Petrichor]

I'll just post these to look at.
100230
100231

[synfullmagic_23110]

I'll just post these to look at.
100230
100231
Wow mana regen doe it's like l55 mega mage

[Ssneakykills]

I'll just post these to look at.
100230
100231

Thank you so much and glad to see the new set is better and I invested well

[Trenton]

Wow, int set actually has some decent improvements.