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Bous
08-04-2014, 03:12 PM
The l77 crafted INT set is so underpowered. Mages have low armor and health(400-500 health) and die before we can get 2 skills off. Bears have 800 health and all they have to do is beckon stomp and mages die. I compared the l77 crafted wand set with fiery and they were about the same. L77 INT set is a slap in the face

Ps - L77 lustrous INT bracer requires Dex. Fix that too please

ign Boss
08-04-2014, 03:14 PM
The l77 crafted INT set is so underpowered. Mages have low armor and health(400-500 health) and die before we can get 2 skills off. Bears have 800 health and all they have to do is beckon stomp and mages die. I compared the l77 crafted wand set with fiery and they were about the same. L77 INT set is a slap in the face

Staff set is maybe better

ooommmggg
08-04-2014, 03:15 PM
Hopefully :)

tarlan
08-04-2014, 03:17 PM
i saw staff set has some crazy proc, debuffs move speed and dodge and dmg maybe more, and with the 0.8 speed it can rly devastate bears

Prosecuted
08-04-2014, 03:27 PM
There needs to be more of a stat difference between the fiery wand set and the L77 crafted int set. The 77 set seems much harder to get compared to fury, and it's 2 levels higher.
Maybe boost the armor on it, or something to increase the lifespan for those who use it.

Trenton
08-04-2014, 03:27 PM
The staff set is pretty decent, saw Burstnuke eat some bears today like they were birds :3

Bous
08-04-2014, 03:29 PM
The staff set is pretty decent, saw Burstnuke eat some bears today like they were birds :3
Please fight a bear with crafted L77 str set

Trenton
08-04-2014, 03:31 PM
Please fight a bear with crafted L77 str set
Never said I fought anyone? Anyways, was sort of a joke, OBVIOUSLY something needs done about it.

Ssneakykills
08-04-2014, 03:56 PM
Someone get on the case with screen shots comparing the two sets please

Samhayne
08-04-2014, 03:57 PM
Hey guys,

The design behind the L77 Armor sets was that STR was tanky, DEX was in the middle and INT was damag-y. If all of the sets were to have a corresponding armor value change, then that begs the question, why have the different sets? Just make one homogeneous set and call it good? If you don't want superior + damage, then maybe a STR set up (paladin) on your mage is an option?

Honestly, the sets were created with PvE in mind and not PvP balance. We know that PvP in Pocket Legends is already a bit, hmm, how to put this delicately... wonky. This stems from many things done years ago. Adding the lvl 77 content was not an attempt to address PvP balance, but to instead give diversity to engame PvE.

At this point, we want to give things a bit more time to settle out before jumping to make more changes. Thanks for the feedback.

Ssneakykills
08-04-2014, 04:01 PM
Hey guys,

The design behind the L77 Armor sets was that STR was tanky, DEX was in the middle and INT was damag-y. If all of the sets were to have a corresponding armor value change, then that begs the question, why have the different sets? Just make one homogeneous set and call it good? If you don't want superior + damage, then maybe a STR set up (paladin) on your mage is an option?

Honestly, the sets were created with PvE in mind and not PvP balance. We know that PvP in Pocket Legends is already a bit, hmm, how to put this delicately... wonky. This stems from many things done years ago. Adding the lvl 77 content was not an attempt to address PvP balance, but to instead give diversity to engame PvE.

At this point, we want to give things a bit more time to settle out before jumping to make more changes. Thanks for the feedback.

Once everything has settled in like the cap etc are we due a pvp balance to fix this wonky pvp? I can't see anyone complaining about anything once it's finally fixed or shall I say Imporved? Because you did say on dolloways thread you were looking into it before

P.s I would also like to thank you for the mini expansion I don't want to sound ungrateful

Dolloway
08-04-2014, 04:03 PM
I fought Burst. Staff set doesn't stand a chance against the new 77 STR set.

Sure, the new proc is nice and does hurt when it hits, but I have 88 dodge buffed so it barely ever hits.

Burst has 157 armor with the new staff set too, so it definitely needs a defensive boost in stats. I think that's lower than Fiery staff set.

Sheugokin
08-04-2014, 04:07 PM
I fought Burst. Staff set doesn't stand a chance against the new 77 STR set.

Sure, the new proc is nice and does hurt when it hits, but I have 88 dodge buffed so it barely ever hits.

Burst has 157 armor with the new staff set too, so it definitely needs a defensive boost in stats. I think that's lower than Fiery staff set.


It is lower b/c fiery staff has like 170 ish armor.

Bous
08-04-2014, 04:21 PM
@ samhayne
There was a time where pvp wasn't "wonky". The only reason it's "wonky" is because every time space time releases a cap they add massive crit/hit/dodge but forget about boosting armor On the squishy classes like Mage and birds where we only have 400-500 health when bears have 800-1000
A mage with 10,000 damage is no good when you get beckon stomped gf

Thanks for the new cap tho

Bous
08-04-2014, 04:34 PM
@ samhayne
Also when you talk diversity you haven't joined a PvP game where almost every class is str because of how op it is. The 76 cap I rarely ever saw int mages and most were pallys due to the massive armor/dodge the Int set is missing

Trenton
08-04-2014, 05:07 PM
Hey guys,

The design behind the L77 Armor sets was that STR was tanky, DEX was in the middle and INT was damag-y. If all of the sets were to have a corresponding armor value change, then that begs the question, why have the different sets? Just make one homogeneous set and call it good? If you don't want superior + damage, then maybe a STR set up (paladin) on your mage is an option?

Honestly, the sets were created with PvE in mind and not PvP balance. We know that PvP in Pocket Legends is already a bit, hmm, how to put this delicately... wonky. This stems from many things done years ago. Adding the lvl 77 content was not an attempt to address PvP balance, but to instead give diversity to engame PvE.

At this point, we want to give things a bit more time to settle out before jumping to make more changes. Thanks for the feedback.
Sam, I know that your intentions are good with the sets, but they need a definite (small is also definite) boost. To cap to L77 is elite, and spending all this plat just for 16 extra damage is no fun. I capped to have an advantage of L76 players who DIDN'T spend the time to cap, to get an elite ring, and to farm of course. The thing is, an elite swift set is still overly better than the new crafted L77 Bow set. (Still don't know name) To have a L77 crafted set still have less crit, dodge, damage, and armor than a L75 crafted set is not benefitting any L77 user.

Also, is there going to elite weapons? I had heard this somewhere, just can't remember. Hopefully these elite weapons will have an advantage over the L76 elite bow set (if the new elite weapon is a bow) and if not, that's a shame. Sorry for the small outburst, just trying to get my opinion out here.

Waug
08-04-2014, 09:02 PM
Hey guys,

The design behind the L77 Armor sets was that STR was tanky, DEX was in the middle and INT was damag-y. If all of the sets were to have a corresponding armor value change, then that begs the question, why have the different sets? Just make one homogeneous set and call it good? If you don't want superior + damage, then maybe a STR set up (paladin) on your mage is an option?

Honestly, the sets were created with PvE in mind and not PvP balance. We know that PvP in Pocket Legends is already a bit, hmm, how to put this delicately... wonky. This stems from many things done years ago. Adding the lvl 77 content was not an attempt to address PvP balance, but to instead give diversity to engame PvE.

At this point, we want to give things a bit more time to settle out before jumping to make more changes. Thanks for the feedback.
But devs had a GOOD CHANCE to address PvP issues without much work and specially without ppls flame, lets say u guys would nerf savage or something then ppls wearing savage would complain hard but not for the new set that being release.

I expected this to happen specially because devs said many time they r gonna do it.

Once again u said u dont want homogeneous set and u guys want diversity but for ur information homogeneous set exists and that is savage set, enter a dungeon and I bet u will find half of the ppls using this set 90% cases only exception is an elix dominant party then with 4x u don't need to think about anything else.

Edit : 80-90% mages, bears, foxes, rhinos use savage set, wondering still how we have diversified sets.

Jig
08-04-2014, 09:15 PM
It's so risky, if you bump the mages health, it can make them so dam op, or so dam weak, you will still complain about the bears dodge, no matter what..

But I do still agree they need health!! Why has every single cap that health does need ever been upgraded?

Look at AL, there health is SUPER important, it probably works different there yeah but... Warriors have up to 6.5-7.4k health with, 2.1-2.3k armour, that's pretty much max stats

I think it's just too much too do in PL, I think it's best we deal with it and move on, this Pocket legends, is now in this way and always will be, unless sts has some sort of way or think about dollows/Whoisthis's threads

Burstnuke
08-04-2014, 11:18 PM
I fought Burst. Staff set doesn't stand a chance against the new 77 STR set.

Sure, the new proc is nice and does hurt when it hits, but I have 88 dodge buffed so it barely ever hits.

Burst has 157 armor with the new staff set too, so it definitely needs a defensive boost in stats. I think that's lower than Fiery staff set.
Yea i got rekt That time lol. Chances of me killing bears are higher then Fiery tho, definately. Id say staff set is a better boost then wand and bracer which is very wierd since its the other way around most of the time.

Burstnuke
08-04-2014, 11:33 PM
@ samhayne
Also when you talk diversity you haven't joined a PvP game where almost every class is str because of how op it is. The 76 cap I rarely ever saw int mages and most were pallys due to the massive armor/dodge the Int set is missing

He said PVE not PVP.

Oldcoot
08-04-2014, 11:35 PM
Yea! For pve!!

Burstnuke
08-05-2014, 12:00 AM
It's so risky, if you bump the mages health, it can make them so dam op, or so dam weak, you will still complain about the bears dodge, no matter what..

But I do still agree they need health!! Why has every single cap that health does need ever been upgraded?

Look at AL, there health is SUPER important, it probably works different there yeah but... Warriors have up to 6.5-7.4k health with, 2.1-2.3k armour, that's pretty much max stats

I think it's just too much too do in PL, I think it's best we deal with it and move on, this Pocket legends, is now in this way and always will be, unless sts has some sort of way or think about dollows/Whoisthis's threads

Go back to AL newb

Faliziaga
08-05-2014, 01:31 AM
Disillusioning that STG do not seem to have implemented any suggestion many Forumers have made regarding pvp balance. It has been said so many times , int set up str set op, now that simply continues.

Jig
08-05-2014, 01:37 AM
Go back to AL newb

100092

Faliziaga
08-05-2014, 04:44 AM
The l77 crafted INT set is so underpowered. Mages have low armor and health(400-500 health) and die before we can get 2 skills off. Bears have 800 health and all they have to do is beckon stomp and mages die. I compared the l77 crafted wand set with fiery and they were about the same. L77 INT set is a slap in the face

Ps - L77 lustrous INT bracer requires Dex. Fix that too please

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okakabarah
08-05-2014, 05:29 AM
Aņadir contenido

Trenton
08-05-2014, 09:27 AM
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This elaboration is wonderful

Instead of just saying "pls make moar op" suggest what should be fixed?

Darkterror
08-05-2014, 10:37 AM
You inT mages have only tried the bracer with dex...if im not wrong you have tried full int staff set only. But you need to try full int bracer before complaining lol.....