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maximuszxz
08-10-2014, 09:03 PM
Dear STS designers,

If you don't know yet, the game is currently very very unbalanced class wise, rouges are owning and 1-2-3shotting everyone in pvp. Warrior suppose to be a tank but can't even last 2-3 shots from a rouge? There is something seriously wrong here. The best weapon right now for warrior still is the level 31 maul, which came out more than a year ago. There's nothing really to do pve at the moment, all there is left for us to do is pvp, and pvp right now is so unbalanced, with the bug in TDM, the bugged juggernaut and the outdated weapons. Please make the bulwark a decent pvp weapon too, right now it is not even comparable to magma claymore or the goblin glaive in terms of pvp, yes we do get more armor but we don't deal any damage and our heal sucks. Adding simply some str and 200 armour won't help it much, like what everyone says it needs a complete overhaul with more damage, better attack range and proc. When everyone wants a new pvp weapon why give us a pve weapon,a not so good one either. Who says sword and shield weapon can't be a pvp weapon. This game is very gear dependent, meanwhile rouges and mages got a great new weapon, we warriors got the most disappointing mythic weapon since this game launched! I mean if it is not a mythic weapon, we wouldn't expect it to be that good, but it is mythic, so please make it good. Thank you so much revising the bulwark. We warriors love this game too and want to enjoy it as much as the other classes.

fiftyonecents
08-11-2014, 09:22 PM
Agreed , this game is very " gear'' dependent you make a solid point there bro. It makes me wonder why a warr is the last in line to get a weapon that balances us out between all classes. Not sure about the bulwark atm , to me its strictly for pve , tanking in elites honestly. Don't want to beat a dead horse but yeah , throw in a weapon that we can use in Pvp and pve a hybrid weapon worth buying beside the outdated arc maul. I have had both the maul and the glaive either way I get one shot killed by the new mythic weaps available these days, I no longer pvp with my end game toons atm , I have to resort to twinking nowa days. Sad but true.

+ 10 on this thread bro :)

maximuszxz
08-11-2014, 10:11 PM
bump! I hope the designers rem sam or someone can read this and take into consideration when making the revision.

Ishtmeet
08-12-2014, 11:14 AM
Do you know i love using bulwark in PvP. Charge your attack and that curse reflects 75% of the damage done.
In clashes This bulwark and maul would definitely be the best weapon. If theres a team that has maul+bulwark, they'll dominate as that heal proc is op too!
Yes they gonna buff it, but remember rogue is a 1-1 class and no one can compete them in pvp :3
If theyre buffing it, I want 200+ armour +20 str + increased range+ More dps( More faster it will charge primary attacks) + 600+ Heal for 4 times during proc(adding 200 armour as usual and reducing enemies armour). That's it.

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Crowsfoot
08-12-2014, 02:35 PM
Do you know i love using bulwark in PvP. Charge your attack and that 1) curse reflects 75% of the damage done.
In clashes This bulwark and maul would definitely be the best weapon. If theres a team that has maul+bulwark, they'll dominate as 2) that heal proc is op too!
Yes they gonna buff it, but remember rogue is a 1-1 class and no one can compete them in pvp :3
If theyre buffing it, I want 200+ armour +20 str + increased range+ More dps( More faster it will charge primary attacks) + 600+ Heal for 4 times during proc(adding 200 armour as usual and reducing enemies armour). That's it.

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1) Dev confirmed (Carapace): the reflect deals half the WARRIOR'S raw damage. It is constant and not 75%, lol.

2) The heal is a PvP addition, but does a very small heal. It makes the warrior a support clash really. The Bulwark is awful for landing kills and I would much rather have a glaive in PvP. I tested the bulwark in PvP during free respec.

Ishtmeet
08-12-2014, 03:02 PM
1) Dev confirmed (Carapace): the reflect deals half the WARRIOR'S raw damage. It is constant and not 75%, lol.

2) The heal is a PvP addition, but does a very small heal. It makes the warrior a support clash really. The Bulwark is awful for landing kills and I would much rather have a glaive in PvP. I tested the bulwark in PvP during free respec.

Depends on how you use, the days do you know rogues with myth bow and ring one hit you with jugger and venge active as well? With bulwqrk, we can stay alive at those crits. In a clash, warrior dead= team dead so survivability> Heal and proc. Thats why i said, one maul and one bulwark team! For random joining in tdm etc, bulwark aint good because of low damage and super low heal. But remember that proc(280-300 heal per tick for 4secs, for me) in pvp passes to the nearby ally and it really helps a lot. It passes 3 times! I.e i get the heal, player a,b and c will get that heal as well. 1k hp return is cool. :)

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Kingofninjas
08-12-2014, 04:00 PM
I'm a rouge and when I compare the stats of the expedition recurve and mythic bow, I see an almost 70 damage boost. If seen players with that boost go from doing 3.5k to a fully geared tank to 4k+ dmg. Combined with nox and piercer many mythic bow rouges can do over 5k dmg to a tank with jugg down. Come on give tanks a break. The bulwark while admittedly is a great weapon for clashes, it completely fails as a decent investment for anyone who does not clash regularly.

No complaints with the proc, just saying maybe give it a significant damage boost so that the damage comes maybe on level with the magma claymore of assault. I think that should passify tanks and make pvp a bit more balanced. After all the bulwark is a MYTHIC weapon and in no case should give about the same damage than the lv 41 legendary swaord and shield

Kingofninjas
08-12-2014, 04:01 PM
Depends on how you use, the days do you know rogues with myth bow and ring one hit you with jugger and venge active as well? With bulwqrk, we can stay alive at those crits. In a clash, warrior dead= team dead so survivability> Heal and proc. Thats why i said, one maul and one bulwark team! For random joining in tdm etc, bulwark aint good because of low damage and super low heal. But remember that proc(280-300 heal per tick for 4secs, for me) in pvp passes to the nearby ally and it really helps a lot. It passes 3 times! I.e i get the heal, player a,b and c will get that heal as well. 1k hp return is cool. :)

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dont forget the armour boost from the proc. cant even count how many times that proc has saves me in a clash. no changes needed on the proc

maximuszxz
08-12-2014, 08:18 PM
BUMP!

Ishtmeet
08-12-2014, 08:51 PM
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I'm a rouge and when I compare the stats of the expedition recurve and mythic bow, I see an almost 70 damage boost. If seen players with that boost go from doing 3.5k to a fully geared tank to 4k+ dmg. Combined with nox and piercer many mythic bow rouges can do over 5k dmg to a tank with jugg down. Come on give tanks a break. The bulwark while admittedly is a great weapon for clashes, it completely fails as a decent investment for anyone who does not clash regularly.

No complaints with the proc, just saying maybe give it a significant damage boost so that the damage comes maybe on level with the magma claymore of assault. I think that should passify tanks and make pvp a bit more balanced. After all the bulwark is a MYTHIC weapon and in no case should give about the same damage than the lv 41 legendary swaord and shield

No, shield weapon isn't meant to do deal damage. If it gets that much dmg, like clamore assault, i would say, Bulwark > glaive

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maximuszxz
08-13-2014, 06:04 AM
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No, shield weapon isn't meant to do deal damage. If it gets that much dmg, like clamore assault, i would say, Bulwark > glaive

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There is nothing wrong with Bulwark>Glaive, bulwark is level 41, glaive is level 36. Why can't shield weapons deal damage? daggers deal damage, bows deal damage, staves deal damage, guns deal damage, no matter what waepons mages and rouges get they deal good damage. If shield doesn't deal damage, fine, then buff it by 1000+ armor, because at 2600 armor my warrior still gets 2 shotted by rouges.

Ishtmeet
08-13-2014, 07:51 AM
Luck = the oh so common "messed up" or "lag" problem.

Shield weapons are meant for tanking. Warriors will be too op if they get damage as well as this armour boost. And FYI, rogues and mages are meant to deal damage, warriors are meant to handle aggro and take damage.
That's why.

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maximuszxz
08-13-2014, 07:55 PM
Shield weapons are meant for tanking. Warriors will be too op if they get damage as well as this armour boost. And FYI, rogues and mages are meant to deal damage, warriors are meant to handle aggro and take damage.
That's why.

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The way the game currently is, warriors, the so called "tanks" are getting two shotted by rouges. And c'mon warriors being op? we all know what the op class is right now, some rouges have 1600+ armor and 4k+ health and insane damage. Rouges can tank quite good too, especailly when you are only dealing few hundred damage to them each hit and they are doing 5k+ to you. Like I said, want warriors to be tanks only, fine, give the bulwark +1000 armor, even with that rouge can probably still hit 3-4K on us "tanks". You know why I put quotation marks around the word "tank", because given how wars are performing now, they surely don't live up to the word "tank".

maximuszxz
08-14-2014, 06:33 PM
BUMP! even with the current changes on test server, bulwark still needs more buff!
Keep in mind this is LEVEL 41 MYTHIC WEAPON!

Haifer
08-15-2014, 10:26 PM
BUMP! even with the current changes on test server, bulwark still needs more buff!
Keep in mind this is LEVEL 41 MYTHIC WEAPON!
Right! It's lvl 41. This means that for seasons to come it needs to be the preferred weapon for tanks. At its current state, next season something will be better.

maximuszxz
08-17-2014, 08:16 PM
Bump! Rem sam someone reply us!

kiffnshey
08-21-2014, 01:16 AM
The way the game currently is, warriors, the so called "tanks" are getting two shotted by rouges. And c'mon warriors being op? we all know what the op class is right now, some rouges have 1600+ armor and 4k+ health and insane damage. Rouges can tank quite good too, especailly when you are only dealing few hundred damage to them each hit and they are doing 5k+ to you. Like I said, want warriors to be tanks only, fine, give the bulwark +1000 armor, even with that rouge can probably still hit 3-4K on us "tanks". You know why I put quotation marks around the word "tank", because given how wars are performing now, they surely don't live up to the word "tank".

If i use bulwark this time in pvp i become water tank bulwark no meaning even have 3 super gem very hard to kill rogue or mage those hv amour 1400 above

kiffnshey
08-21-2014, 01:30 AM
Dear STS designers,

If you don't know yet, the game is currently very very unbalanced class wise, rouges are owning and 1-2-3shotting everyone in pvp. Warrior suppose to be a tank but can't even last 2-3 shots from a rouge? There is something seriously wrong here. The best weapon right now for warrior still is the level 31 maul, which came out more than a year ago. There's nothing really to do pve at the moment, all there is left for us to do is pvp, and pvp right now is so unbalanced, with the bug in TDM, the bugged juggernaut and the outdated weapons. Please make the bulwark a decent pvp weapon too, right now it is not even comparable to magma claymore or the goblin glaive in terms of pvp, yes we do get more armor but we don't deal any damage and our heal sucks. Adding simply some str and 200 armour won't help it much, like what everyone says it needs a complete overhaul with more damage, better attack range and proc. When everyone wants a new pvp weapon why give us a pve weapon,a not so good one either. Who says sword and shield weapon can't be a pvp weapon. This game is very gear dependent, meanwhile rouges and mages got a great new weapon, we warriors got the most disappointing mythic weapon since this game launched! I mean if it is not a mythic weapon, we wouldn't expect it to be that good, but it is mythic, so please make it good. Thank you so much revising the bulwark. We warriors love this game too and want to enjoy it as much as the other classes.

During at beta test server i use bulwark but still not enough damage my bulwark damage up to 390 at main server 365, why so complicated to giving to warrior good damage and good buff weapon that sts called it mythic lvl 41, is very hard to bring bulwark to play ctf or tdm, i really hope devs can adjusted good damage and dps also very good buff or warrior will be attack by rogue so easy because they know their damage high, warrior being hit 2 shot then die, pls pls make a balance dmg,I love this game dont lets us down all warrior hope better weapon to pve or pvp

Thanks
Kiffers

spimeslam
08-21-2014, 04:06 PM
I won't go into everything but I do agree with a lot that was said here. If bulwark proc did reflect damage based on damage recieved and not damage dealt it would be pretty sweet. Mob/Boss Damage and health already are higher/ lower depending on level modifiers so it would help about the same in whatever level you went to. If this was implemented maybe lower the time the proc stayed active. Well that's my 2 cents

Caabatric
08-28-2014, 09:40 PM
We WAR's playing the game dont care what's STS going to bring in the future. I rather live in now&enjoy.
Now I am begining to dislike the game same as many War friends in game. Most changing chars
Taking a break.or leaving the game.
A game suppose to be Fun leisure time.Arcane legends sts made the game BORING for all WAR's
Dont blame no one. Leaving looking for better games.
Good way to lose players
STS CONGRATULATIONS on making War a NOOB.

I am yet too see a Mage without Sam and arcane ring beat a tank even when tank uses bulwark so idk what you talking about.
I guess rogues op but I mean that's how it always is.

Imthebeast
08-29-2014, 01:19 PM
Warriors are the most needed class for ctf or 5v5 clash......they feeble rogues to where they cannot crit and give an invulnerability shield and can survive 11 seconds of hell if jugg is active. Warriors need no boost. What is needed for balance is the rogues crit to be weakened. That is all.

spimeslam
09-02-2014, 03:26 PM
I have hopes for the bulwark, but people right now would barely pay 7m for it. Which to me shows the overall doubt that even after buff it will still be a weapon with lower value. :( hope everybody is proven wrong though.. :-D

Memnoch The Devil
09-03-2014, 01:05 PM
The bulwark is such a "good" weapon that if i have conquerer of potency on and i remove from stash the bulwark it doesnt even say is better that what im equipt, keep in my mind the bulwark is +15 and the conquerer +9

Memnoch The Devil
09-03-2014, 01:08 PM
I am yet too see a Mage without Sam and arcane ring beat a tank even when tank uses bulwark so idk what you talking about.
I guess rogues op but I mean that's how it always is.

Then probably you should go pvp and see how easy is for a mage equipt all mythic to kill a tank and then we can have a chat if a mage kills or not a tank in pvp

Caabatric
09-03-2014, 10:11 PM
Then probably you should go pvp and see how easy is for a mage equipt all mythic to kill a tank and then we can have a chat if a mage kills or not a tank in pvp
I play pvp everyday. Mythic tank vs Mythic mage = mythic tank wins. Are you sure you are even using a correct pvp build. I have yet to see a mage fight a war in proper 1v1 (no interference with heal and vb) and win. I have used mythics. I dont stand a chance against a warrior and most mages agree with me. Please show me a video of the next time a mage wins in 1v1 against a warrior with full mythic and using a good build. Good tanks can match a mages dmg with a max of 100 dmg difference and a 2-3k health difference and a 1-2k armor difference. Not only that the health on war provides invisibility shield. Our only advantage is curse which with shield and heal gives us one attacking skill not enough to kill a war. In your case use heal or vb when cursed and congrats you take barely any dmg.

Mages good in group fights only and most prefer tanks and rogues over mages.
Only time i see a good mage is one with the new mythic gun but even with that tanks have a huge edge on mages since the mythic gun doesn't root in pvp.

Memnoch The Devil
09-04-2014, 06:23 AM
I play pvp everyday. Mythic tank vs Mythic mage = mythic tank wins. Are you sure you are even using a correct pvp build. I have yet to see a mage fight a war in proper 1v1 (no interference with heal and vb) and win. I have used mythics. I dont stand a chance against a warrior and most mages agree with me. Please show me a video of the next time a mage wins in 1v1 against a warrior with full mythic and using a good build. Good tanks can match a mages dmg with a max of 100 dmg difference and a 2-3k health difference and a 1-2k armor difference. Not only that the health on war provides invisibility shield. Our only advantage is curse which with shield and heal gives us one attacking skill not enough to kill a war. In your case use heal or vb when cursed and congrats you take barely any dmg.

Mages good in group fights only and most prefer tanks and rogues over mages.
Only time i see a good mage is one with the new mythic gun but even with that tanks have a huge edge on mages since the mythic gun doesn't root in pvp.



Lol.... If you expect to kill with lvl 36 mythic weapon a lvl 41 mythic weapon... thats all i can say

Caabatric
09-06-2014, 05:36 PM
Lol.... If you expect to kill with lvl 36 mythic weapon a lvl 41 mythic weapon... thats all i can say

true true but still wars can beat me with a shield and sword as long as they just take away my mana. I have seen wars just sit there heal when necessary then when the mage out of mana pummel the mage. Most mages have a problem with this imcluding some of the best mages. In group fights thats when a mage shines otherwise they are trash

SacredKnight
09-06-2014, 07:40 PM
During at beta test server i use bulwark but still not enough damage my bulwark damage up to 390 at main server 365, why so complicated to giving to warrior good damage and good buff weapon that sts called it mythic lvl 41, is very hard to bring bulwark to play ctf or tdm, i really hope devs can adjusted good damage and dps also very good buff or warrior will be attack by rogue so easy because they know their damage high, warrior being hit 2 shot then die, pls pls make a balance dmg,I love this game dont lets us down all warrior hope better weapon to pve or pvp

Thanks
Kiffers


The Bulwark is a PvE weapon. Don't expect to PvP well with it, as the devs have said multiple times this a support type weapon mainly targeted at elites.


.-.

Caabatric
09-06-2014, 09:07 PM
The Bulwark is a PvE weapon. Don't expect to PvP well with it, as the devs have said multiple times this a support type weapon mainly targeted at elites.


.-.
Very true this is why in the 3v3 tournament that renium is hosting all warriors are using arcane maul over samael. (one arcane per player which is why not both)

spimeslam
09-07-2014, 04:58 PM
Does sorcerer and rogue have lower lvl mythics that are better than the higher lvl ones? I don't know which is purely why I ask.

beezulbulb
09-08-2014, 08:32 AM
My question is: the devs said the bulwark is being revised after the test server event. It hasn't been done as of yet. When will it be revised? Alot of us have been chomping at the bit waiting for the fix. ????

spimeslam
09-09-2014, 01:34 PM
Whatever buff they apply to bulwark will be with the update to arena and tombs

Sundar Moorthi
09-13-2014, 06:27 AM
same in lvl 26 jug,heal,veng,ss tankz mythic helm +4 legendry gears + slag using tank die lik a paper arcane hooks rogues r very powerful cos thy got arcane hook+mythic helm+ 3 legendry gears + myth,arcane, pet :-) tankz die like a paper

Nowadays r tank toon its capable for pve not for an pvp believe it r not its my own reference