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ClumsyCactus
08-14-2014, 06:02 AM
I have 2 things to say about pvp.
1. It is incredibly rude to join a random pvp room, and then tell people to leave.
I know you want a ultimate team, but it is just not acceptable unless the person you want to leave is rude,spotblocking,or the fight has turned into a guildfight.
And, if it has turned in to a guildfight, that is not my buisness. BUT you people Who can't handle when someone from another guild is better than you are truly childish.
Also, for the less ranting part of it...
2. Why is samael so amazing?
Lets compare
Samael:25 primary,10 int,10% dmg (12 really, but officially 10?)10% crit, 100 health
Nekro:20 primary,15 int/dex/str,12% dmg,10% crit,6 mana regen

Nekro has superior stats, atleast if you choose mana regen over health.
And, also, nekro has better int,dex,str boost.
Why does everyone want samael?
The regen on a samael passive is not even that good, pretty terrible tbh.
Is samael AA so OP That everyone Wants him or what?

Alhuntrazeck
08-14-2014, 06:08 AM
1. You'll be asked to leave if you're a) in a guild fight, b) blocking or c) flagging. There is no other conceivable reason, except if you're like severely undergeared with a hellish set on or something.

2. Nekro is rare, damn rare. The fossil alone costs 100m+. People with smaller budgets get Samael and TBH it is an amazing pet, its AA nearly always panics, auto attack panics a lot, and the regen is very noticeable, more than the mage's heal's regen. Coupled with an SNS user, you get some serious HP back. It is overall a great pet for the price.

keikali
08-14-2014, 07:00 AM
1) #lol@pvderp
My suggestion? dgaf and kill them all. wahhh wahhh I can't kill anyone on opposite side cause they're my frandz, then gtfo. You call it ganging? I call it collaborative teamwork. You call it a block? I call it a challenge. I've had all of them happen to me and like I said, dgaf. I go into Pvderp to have fun and kill. Been starting alot of trouble lately and i'm loving it.

2) Samael has a VERY high % AA derp stun along with passive stun. He hits like a truck and his regen is like potting (exaggeration here).

ClumsyCactus
08-14-2014, 07:18 AM
1. You'll be asked to leave if you're a) in a guild fight, b) blocking or c) flagging. There is no other conceivable reason, except if you're like severely undergeared with a hellish set on or something.

2. Nekro is rare, damn rare. The fossil alone costs 100m+. People with smaller budgets get Samael and TBH it is an amazing pet, its AA nearly always panics, auto attack panics a lot, and the regen is very noticeable, more than the mage's heal's regen. Coupled with an SNS user, you get some serious HP back. It is overall a great pet for the price.
1. I use mythic gear for all except ring and bow, no supergems.
I get requested to leave alot (well, i dont pvp much, but still) due to me not getting alot of kills for being a rogue.
2. Honestly, the Only time i find the Samael regen useful is when there is atleast 3, maybe 2 users in one game :/
But, yes the Money is a good reason :)

matanofx
08-14-2014, 07:40 AM
Here's what you do, its what all the pros do, find mages, shield down, pretand ur just walking around not charging an attack and just when you get near the mage...

CHARGE AIMED SHOT FAST FAST BOOM POW KILL done. Youre pro now.

kixkaxx
08-14-2014, 07:44 AM
1. If you have Top gears and decent skills, no one will ask you to leave.

2. Samael is still very powerful, level 41 one grants 53mana/2sec, this is very very noticeable for a rogue especially you are skilled and know how to survive after a fight

gumball3000
08-14-2014, 07:53 AM
I think its extremely rude to join a room where the flag says 4-4 ( an arranged match obviously) and not leave when asked.

Gensin
08-14-2014, 07:55 AM
1. You'll be asked to leave if you're a) in a guild fight, b) blocking or c) flagging. There is no other conceivable reason, except if you're like severely undergeared with a hellish set on or something.

You forgot d).

d) If there gonna farm in there dummies.

and also

e) If there gonna host a event in a pvp arena.

Gensin
08-14-2014, 08:00 AM
2. Why is samael so amazing?
Lets compare
Samael:25 primary,10 int,10% dmg (12 really, but officially 10?)10% crit, 100 health
Nekro:20 primary,15 int/dex/str,12% dmg,10% crit,6 mana regen

Nekro has superior stats, atleast if you choose mana regen over health.
And, also, nekro has better int,dex,str boost.
Why does everyone want samael?
The regen on a samael passive is not even that good, pretty terrible tbh.
Is samael AA so OP That everyone Wants him or what?

2.) Lets compare more over rarity.

Samael:
Not so very rare, Many people have it in eggs and in stables.

Nekro:
Very rare, You barely even see one in 1 day.

Thats another reason.
And also why buy a expensive pet, rather than to get a cheap one thats good as it or more better?
People are digging and want that banish of samael rather than nekro's, Because nekro barely even stun the 40% needs to be buffed.
Another thing about the mana regen, Ripmaw was good and all when it was 26 - 31 level cap, because of its regen. Nekro's mana regen will not take long in my theory, considering that dragon enclave has been around for a while now, I think STS is maybe at making another expansion which is a minus at nekro's mana regen. because while the mana of ours get higher (because of the new level cap) the more irrelevant the regen is.

ClumsyCactus
08-14-2014, 08:03 AM
1. If you have Top gears and decent skills, no one will ask you to leave.

2. Samael is still very powerful, level 41 one grants 53mana/2sec, this is very very noticeable for a rogue especially you are skilled and know how to survive after a fight
1. Oh really? I cant post any screenshots, bcuz i cant Edit names out on my phone, but anyway... Lol
2. After a fight it is pretty useful, or during a longer Clash, but i dont understand why EVERYONE is amazed by it XD


I think its extremely rude to join a room where the flag says 4-4 ( an arranged match obviously) and not leave when asked.
Lol, i don't do that though (usually) ;)

Gensin
08-14-2014, 08:15 AM
Who does not want to 1 hit mobs? hahah.
100955
Credits to Jaytb (Tinyblue). Got it from his samael review thread.

obee
08-14-2014, 08:56 AM
XD now I'm not gonna leave when people ask me

Energizeric
08-14-2014, 12:10 PM
I never ask anyone to leave unless they are not fighting. But if there are weak players on the team and I keep finding myself alone against the entire other team (because everyone on my team gets killed immediately), then I myself leave and find another game. :)

ClumsyCactus
08-14-2014, 12:33 PM
I never ask anyone to leave unless they are not fighting. But if there are weak players on the team and I keep finding myself alone against the entire other team (because everyone on my team gets killed immediately), then I myself leave and find another game. :)

That's how to deal with it, if you want a better team you join another game :)

hercthegod
08-15-2014, 07:30 PM
If I'm in pvp and i see I've joined the team that gang me at every chance i take it upon myself to block so i can watch them suffer and moan. :D
#Revenge

Sceazikua
08-17-2014, 06:47 AM
I agree its rude to be asked to leave when its not the situations like people above said. I wasnt asked that thing many times, but I think if I was (not in those situations) I would just stay and do my best and watch them cry ;)