Devs: How to Dilute Scamming on Trades Over 10 mill.

[ign Boss]

It's obvious that there are many scammers in the community. It's almost a monthly event that someone is scammed out of 30 mill trying to buy a precious 71 elite, etc.. I've discovered a simple (god forbid excessive amounts of coding) and easy way to cut scams in half WITHOUT altering the gold cap!

But first, Here is a video of the hassle and nervous trust required to purchase an Elite Marlin Sword. (Not everyone is as lucky as I am to find a decent seller. He could have just as easily been a scammer. You will notice many opportunities for scam during the video. The original, uncut video was 20 minutes long.) Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2ZsMG4znw

So back to the post.

[emoji184]The Ore[emoji184]

My idea is to significantly reduce the risk in purchasing/selling items that are worth more than the gold cap of 10 mill, as well as save a great amount of time and effort in the process. I believe of a material called an ore. However, this material is not used for crafting. They are an addition to the store. (The icon would be similar to this [emoji184] and the tab would be called Ores)
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/18/5c85841a61f4c613e8740deaaab43bfc.jpg

What is an ore?

Ores will be used to make large trades without the hassle of a middle man or fifty twinks. Each ore will be purchasable for gold and will liquidate for near their purchase price. They are tradeable, stashable, etc. You will now be able to store your gold as ores and keep them either on char or in your stash. None of this 50twink/transfer gold buisness.

The Silver Ore
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/18/30ed7cb477defd0530cccb0fa9b4e47d.jpg
The silver ore will be worth the least, however still useful in trades from 11 mill to 20 mill.

Purchase price: 2,505,000 OR 2,500,000+3 plat
Liquidation price: 2,500,000

The Gold Ore
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/18/351093f774b6f088f872c976bc89b9d0.jpg
The gold ore will be worth more than the silver ore, and are useful in trades from 15 mill to 30 mill.

Purchase price: 5,010,000 OR 5,000,000+5 plat
Liquidation price: 5,000,000

DIAMOND ORE
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/18/9bf01aff6191deac617c95d2180798bf.jpg
The diamond ore is the most precious type of ore and can be used for great trades of 17.5 mill to 40 mill!

Purchase price: 7,515,000 OR 7,500,000+7 plat
Liquidation price: 7,500,000

If you like my ideas be sure to give me a "thank" so it gets noticed! Tell me what you think too. Together we can protect ourselves from scam.

Love,
Allhail


ign ALL HAIL

[synfullmagic_23110]

Nice

[ign Boss]

Edited


ign ALL HAIL

[ign Boss]

(Check out my recent ems purchase and video there is a surprise at the end)[emoji6]

ign ALL HAIL

[Beezlewtf]

.wut

[Dolloway]

amazing idea

someone should hire this man

[Boiled_35]

I like it.

[RATTANSINGHNAGRA]

Or the devs could increase the gold cap or make it unlimited.

[Hawkbby]

Good Job, really, a fantastic idea to cut down scams. I wish this was implemented.

Proud Officer of All Hail.

[ign Boss]

Good Job, really, a fantastic idea to cut down scams. I wish this was implemented.

Proud Officer of All Hail.

Watch the video ending lol


ign ALL HAIL

[synfullmagic_23110]

Good to know I can trust you
And wow u just have 3.5bill laying around .-.

The most I gotten at once is 6m

I wish I merched that hard

[Armourslash]

Nice guide there.

[Charmstrange]

I like this idea a lot, but I think it needs to be scaled up exponentially to accommodate all future trading needs. How about this:
Silver Ore = 1 Gold Cap
Gold Ore = 4 Gold Caps (purchased with 4 Silver Ores)
Diamond Ore = 16 Gold Caps (purchased with 4 Gold Ores)
Neutron Star Ore = 64 Gold Caps
(Purchased with 4 Diamond Ores)

Converting either up or down could cost a plat or gold fee as you stated in your plan, such as trading 1 Diamond Ore back to 4 Gold Ores, for example.

I suggested the multiplier of 4 to reflect how many items fit in the trade window. With this plan, a player could put up to 257 Gold Caps in the trade window (that would be max gold + 4 Neutron Star Ores).

Of course, this plan could be scaled up to the next tier if players begin requiring trades of up to 10 billion (ish) gold, 40 billion (ish) gold, or 160 billion (ish) gold, etc, etc...

And.... Then someone really could rule the world Muahahahahaha

Edit: why do I feel like eating cookies and milk after writing that?

[ign Boss]

I like this idea a lot, but I think it needs to be scaled up exponentially to accommodate all future trading needs. How about this:
Silver Ore = 1 Gold Cap
Gold Ore = 4 Gold Caps (purchased with 4 Silver Ores)
Diamond Ore = 16 Gold Caps (purchased with 4 Gold Ores)
Neutron Star Ore = 64 Gold Caps
(Purchased with 4 Diamond Ores)

Converting either up or down could cost a plat or gold fee as you stated in your plan, such as trading 1 Diamond Ore back to 4 Gold Ores, for example.

I suggested the multiplier of 4 to reflect how many items fit in the trade window. With this plan, a player could put up to 257 Gold Caps (that would be max gold + 4 Neutron Star Ores).

And.... Then someone really could rule the world hahahahaha

So you want it to be worth 640,000,000? K. Gf when you accidently liquidate


ign ALL HAIL

[Charmstrange]

So you want it to be worth 640,000,000? K. Gf when you accidently liquidate


ign ALL HAIL

The point I was making is that if you don't have exponential scaling, you can't really break out of the limitations of the current gold cap/trade window configuration. You might as well just trade 4 night starrys (or something of comparable value) instead of 4 ores that are worth 6-7 mil each.

And... If you think 640,000,000 is crazy, check out my edit ;)

[ign Boss]

The point I was making is that if you don't have exponential scaling, you can't really break out of the limitations of the current gold cap/trade window configuration. You might as well just trade 4 night starrys (or something of comparable value) instead of 4 ores that are worth 6-7 mil each.

It's not the same at all though


ign ALL HAIL

[Ssneakykills]

I hate that when you have to click the confirm about 3 times til it goes yellow and accepts and good idea their would be literally no scams this way at all

[Charmstrange]

Ok it's not the same, I was just expanding on your idea in a way that would accommodate any size of trading needs. Players already require safe trades of amounts greater than 40 million. I wasn't trying to criticize you.

[Zodiarck]

nice guide

[ign Boss]

You don't have to worry anout accidentally liquidating because if you do you'll either get your gold back or it wouldn't let you because it would be over the gold cap!*


ign ALL HAIL

[for the lulz]

there shud be ones for 10 mil and you can craft 4 of the 10 mil ones into 40 mil ores . then use the 40 mil ones to purchase really super expencive stuff like black drag , to fit it all into one trade

[Nihiliste]

Great idea, bic!

[Trenton]

Lel didn't know you were Powerpink

Ur pretty cool ^.^

Also how'd you find time to get 100k deaths._.

[ign Boss]

Lel didn't know you were Powerpink

Ur pretty cool ^.^

Also how'd you find time to get 100k deaths._.

I hire people in china


ign ALL HAIL

[angeldawn]

I love the idea cuz it will stop wasting my time ;p

But I also worry it could cause things to inflate in value cuz trading more than 10m will be easier. But who knows ;)

[ign Boss]

I love the idea cuz it will stop wasting my time ;p

But I also worry it could cause things to inflate in value cuz trading more than 10m will be easier. But who knows ;)

Bes middle woman


ign ALL HAIL

[angeldawn]

Did I say ....
I [emoji173]️the video? It was awesome !

[ign Boss]

Did I say ....
I [emoji173]️the video? It was awesome !

Did you like the ending?


ign ALL HAIL

[angeldawn]

Yes loved it !!!!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/20/2equje9y.jpg

[Samhayne]

Great idea and a perfect fix for the big money problems. No guarantees as to if or when it would be implemented, but it's on the list.

[Cavoc]

Great idea and a perfect fix for the big money problems. No guarantees as to if or when it would be implemented, but it's on the list.

Best response I've seen in a long time.
And I love the idea (even though I only have enough for like 1 ore).

[Charmstrange]

there shud be ones for 10 mil and you can craft 4 of the 10 mil ones into 40 mil ores . then use the 40 mil ones to purchase really super expencive stuff like black drag , to fit it all into one trade

Yep, I agree
already posted this...see above

[synfullmagic_23110]

Best response I've seen in a long time.
And I love the idea (even though I only have enough for like 1 ore).

I would have enough for none :(

[Fusionstrike]

Great idea and a perfect fix for the big money problems. No guarantees as to if or when it would be implemented, but it's on the list.

Why would you choose to implement something like this rather than just raise the gold cap? All you would have to do is raise the cap to 1 billion, and stick a few commas in the display screens to help make the numbers more readable. Even the craziest no-life player isn't going to be making trades in the billions, so that new cap would be essentially "infinite" for PL's economy as it stands. And you wouldn't have to make new gold-convertible items just to move money around.

[Mayaross]

Nice thread +1

[Armourslash]

Yes loved it !!!!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/20/2equje9y.jpg

Aww you got the BSOD :(

[ign Boss]

Aww you got the BSOD :(

You need to watch the video to find out why.


ign Allhail

[snowfu]

It's obvious that there are many scammers in the community. It's almost a monthly event that someone is scammed out of 30 mill trying to buy a precious 71 elite, etc.. I've discovered a simple (god forbid excessive amounts of coding) and easy way to cut scams in half WITHOUT altering the gold cap!

But first, Here is a video of the hassle and nervous trust required to purchase an Elite Marlin Sword. (Not everyone is as lucky as I am to find a decent seller. He could have just as easily been a scammer. You will notice many opportunities for scam during the video. The original, uncut video was 20 minutes long.) Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2ZsMG4znw

So back to the post.

[emoji184]The Ore[emoji184]

My idea is to significantly reduce the risk in purchasing/selling items that are worth more than the gold cap of 10 mill, as well as save a great amount of time and effort in the process. I believe of a material called an ore. However, this material is not used for crafting. They are an addition to the store. (The icon would be similar to this [emoji184] and the tab would be called Ores)
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/18/5c85841a61f4c613e8740deaaab43bfc.jpg

What is an ore?

Ores will be used to make large trades without the hassle of a middle man or fifty twinks. Each ore will be purchasable for gold and will liquidate for near their purchase price. They are tradeable, stashable, etc. You will now be able to store your gold as ores and keep them either on char or in your stash. None of this 50twink/transfer gold buisness.

The Silver Ore
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/18/30ed7cb477defd0530cccb0fa9b4e47d.jpg
The silver ore will be worth the least, however still useful in trades from 11 mill to 20 mill.

Purchase price: 2,505,000 OR 2,500,000+3 plat
Liquidation price: 2,500,000

The Gold Ore
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/18/351093f774b6f088f872c976bc89b9d0.jpg
The gold ore will be worth more than the silver ore, and are useful in trades from 15 mill to 30 mill.

Purchase price: 5,010,000 OR 5,000,000+5 plat
Liquidation price: 5,000,000

DIAMOND ORE
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/18/9bf01aff6191deac617c95d2180798bf.jpg
The diamond ore is the most precious type of ore and can be used for great trades of 17.5 mill to 40 mill!

Purchase price: 7,515,000 OR 7,500,000+7 plat
Liquidation price: 7,500,000

If you like my ideas be sure to give me a "thank" so it gets noticed! Tell me what you think too. Together we can protect ourselves from scam.

Love,
Allhail


ign ALL HAIL

I think you should add another type of ore that would be-

Wooden Ore, great for trades of 10k-50k
Cost to buy- 11,000 gold OR 1,000 gold+ 2 plat
Liquidation Price- 9k

Stone Ore, great for trades of 100k-500k.
Cost to buy- 98,000 gold or 50,000 gold+ 30 plat.
Liquidation Price- 40k

[ign Boss]

I think you should add another type of ore that would be-

Wooden Ore, great for trades of 10k-50k
Cost to buy- 11,000 gold OR 1,000 gold+ 2 plat
Liquidation Price- 12k

Stone Ore, great for trades of 100k-500k.
Cost to buy- 98,000 gold or 50,000 gold+ 30 plat.
Liquidation Price- 200k

You don't need that cause you can just use gold. Also, I you buy it for 11,000 and sell for 12,000 everyone will keep doing that to make gold.


ign Allhail

[Somemager]

You don't need that cause you can just use gold. Also, I you buy it for 11,000 and sell for 12,000 everyone will keep doing that to make gold.


ign Allhail


Dat exploit doe.

[synfullmagic_23110]

Dat exploit doe.


The email address for our support team is support@spacetimestudios.com - they would be the ones to talk to. :) Best of luck!

[ign Boss]

The email address for our support team is support@spacetimestudios.com - they would be the ones to talk to. :) Best of luck!

Lol this is irrelevant


ign Allhail

[snowfu]

You don't need that cause you can just use gold. Also, I you buy it for 11,000 and sell for 12,000 everyone will keep doing that to make gold.


ign Allhail
I changed it. :P

[BroadCastle]

I use my super enchanted and community respected vote to support the original idea! :D It's really great solution. Smooth and simple. Thumbs up!

[ign Boss]

I use my super enchanted and community respected vote to support the original idea! :D It's really great solution. Smooth and simple. Thumbs up!

Thanks lol


ign Allhail

[Armourslash]

Well, scamming will fade away if this idea is implemented.

[Trenton]

Well, scamming will fade away if this idea is implemented.
Lolno it won't

[bosstinytitan]

I want to bump this thread so more devs can see it

[ign Boss]

I want to bump this thread so more devs can see it

Don't do that its against the rules.

[Caiahar]

I do indeed congratulate you, sir!

But then again, wouldn't it be easier for StG to raise the gold cap instead of adding new items?

But this works too!

[Card]

necro btw this is great idea doe

[dudetus]

The idea is good but IMO the "charging money" into those ores isn't the option as I'd imagine it isn't that easy to do. Better would be IMO that those ores can be purchased for 5 and 10 mil and their liquidation price would be the same. There's no use for 1m ore as the issue is trades over 10 mil.