L71 Swift Talon, Legit or bugged/hacked?

[Apa]

Hey everyone. I was in balefort today until I got a pm 'I heard you're rich'.. But thats not the point. This guy came to me and showed me a L71 Swift talon...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/23/gaqy7uta.jpg

I don't actually know if there was a cheat engine or bug involved so thats why I'm asking what you guys think.
The guy claims it was the 'first ever' swift talon to be crafted and the devs patched a bug after this one was crafted.......... I don't know if I believe that but anyway!
In the picture above this shows a L71 swift talon which seems to have similar stats to the original, L75 swift talon.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/23/yqedy3uv.jpg

In the above picture here I have compared swift talons to the original L75 swift talon and it shows that this seems to be a genuine talon. The only difference between the two is the damage.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/23/eru9uryr.jpg

Also you can see that the L71 swift talon won't 'set' with the rest of the L75 swift pieces.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/23/sa4utyru.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/23/7a7uty2a.jpg

In the final two pictures above shows another slight comparison of the two talons, an attempt of trying to prove that it really is a legit L71 swift talon.

So anyway. To take things further I also thought I should go back to what I said in the first sentence of this thread and continue.. the guy wanted to trade it for all three 71 elites, Esb, Ewt and Ems. Which is the reason he came to me in the first place. I didn't know and I still don't know if its a real L71 swift talon, or just a bug through the trade window that he was able to manipulate but I asked him to wear it on a L71.
Then the problem came where he didn't have a L71 so my friends and I suggested that he let my L71 wear it to prove if its actually a real L71 Swift talon. He didn't trust me which is normal of him. But then he says that I have to give Esb to him and two other elites to his most trusted friend as a fail safe (just in case I scam him, he can still walk off with my elites) but I didn't agree to this as I found it rather fishy..

So aside from all that and keeping in mind of the situation that happened to me, could this be a real L71 swift talon or a bugged/hacked swift talon. Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks for taking the time to read.

[Trollish]

Wao.


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[Ssneakykills]

Just a bugged talon and I wish him luck with finding 3 elites for it

[Trollish]

HAX


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[Trenton]

That's rly cool but I honestly believe it's real, bcus it doesn't make set. It's not like he's wearing a different piece of crafted set because he's full Dex (full enough to not be able to use any others)

I'm sure it's a bug that any level weapon back when BSM came out could be crafted but people were too busy trying to get L75 sets so before it got patched, only one or two people got a L71/L73 crafted weapon.

[yuxilor]

1 the two elites were supposed to be held by a mutually trusted friend: rikstrife.
2 you can't mix lvl 71 and 73 flying and have it set, similarly, lvl 71 and 75 swift will not set
3 as far as I know this is the first documented case of a L71 dragon master item

[Somemager]

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have found the rarest item in the game.

[Hover]

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have found the rarest item in the game.

Gurgox 1h hammer is.

[Trenton]

Gurgox 1h hammer is.
Yet they fixed that as where they will probably fix this swift talon

[Apa]

Yet they fixed that as where they will probably fix this swift talon

Well even if they don't fix it he can keep dreaming about getting all three 71 elites for it. Cause personally no matter how rare it may be the 71 elites are way kooler. And i believe that the majority (if not all) of people who own them wouldn't want to trade it for this lousy talon.
The only difference about it is L71. What is so interesting about that, right? (;

☆〜（ゝ。∂）


Ladies and gentlemen, *I believe we have found the rarest item in the game.

Proud of me? ;3


Just a bugged talon and I wish him luck with finding 3 elites for it

Sarcasm? xD

[johnny6880]

Not worth it for elites unless it was a full 71 swift set..

[programmed]

Isn't swift only l75 though and flying is the one that is l71? Does this mean that there may be a few people with other l71 swift items to make a set?

[Sheugokin]

Oh darn!!!


Let me get that and I'll level to 71 to be OP!

[Trenton]

Yes if L71 Swift set was forreal then Def be worth 3 elites

[Laar]

Is this hax?

[synfullmagic_23110]

wow......

[programmed]

Yes if L71 Swift set was forreal then Def be worth 3 elites

Maybe if it was a full set but I wouldn't think just a talon would be worth that much.

[Trenton]

I feel like this isn't a glitch.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/23/ea0faa9344dd842ee32721f7146a7312.jpg

The L71 Flying Talon has less dmg and crit than the L71 Swift Talon, and as you can see here, the L71 Savage Scythe has 3 extra armor than the L71 Beastly Scythe, but less stats than a L75 Savage Scythe. If it was a glitch, it wouldn't have preset stats that are right in between the L71 and L75 piece, right?

[nutthebear]

I'm buying it


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[BroadCastle]

Strange how something like this happens :) I was present by the trade with scythe today and the original owner told me he simply crafted l75 scythe and "somehow it was l71". However, what makes me wonder is the fact that such a items appear both in these days, over a year after its origin (due to what these guys said). Something is telling me there is some pitfall in that :D Or anyone met these items befor, in the short period of 14 months?

[Trollish]

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The hax is real.


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[synfullmagic_23110]

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The hax is real.


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Missed a "]" at end

[Trollish]

Missed a "]" at end

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[Laar]

Is that just beastly with a bugged name?

[BroadCastle]

Is that just beastly with a bugged name?

It has higher stats though.

[Trenton]

Is that just beastly with a bugged name?
Just like my post said, it has higher stats than L71 Beastly and lower than L75 Beastly/Savage

[tarlan]

farm sand caves with 71?

[Sheugokin]

farm sand caves with 71?

Well sand caves would not drop beastly so I guess you just gotta craft it.

[tarlan]

Well sand caves would not drop beastly so I guess you just gotta craft it.

unless ur 71 cuz the black scales to 73/75/77
so 71 glitches n drops best from previous cap
it must be

[SillyJuan]

Strange how something like this happens :) I was present by the trade with scythe today and the original owner told me he simply crafted l75 scythe and "somehow it was l71". However, what makes me wonder is the fact that such a items appear both in these days, over a year after its origin (due to what these guys said). Something is telling me there is some pitfall in that :D Or anyone met these items befor, in the short period of 14 months?

Mayb a new glitch and the same person is trying to trick people by telling them it used to be a bug that was removed so they can get money out of it.

[programmed]

farm sand caves with 71?

These are crafted items. Flying and beastly would be the non-crafted versions but these are swift and savage.

[tarlan]

These are crafted items. Flying and beastly would be the non-crafted versions but these are swift and savage.

uncraft drops in the blacksmoke regions where as the high sand dungeons have the precrafted goodness, just the blackstone onyx items override the drap tables for 73-77

[Somemager]

Inb4 crafted 71 fiery staff / scepter

[Armourslash]

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You can get your savage, fiery or swift set at 71 and be bes at pvp :D

[ign Boss]

Strange how something like this happens :) I was present by the trade with scythe today and the original owner told me he simply crafted l75 scythe and "somehow it was l71". However, what makes me wonder is the fact that such a items appear both in these days, over a year after its origin (due to what these guys said). Something is telling me there is some pitfall in that :D Or anyone met these items befor, in the short period of 14 months?

The item was probably kept secret but once one was revealed there was no need to keep it a secret anymore


ign Allhail

[BroadCastle]

The item was probably kept secret but once one was revealed there was no need to keep it a secret anymore

ign Allhail

You have seen that lililolol guy... I can't figure single one reason why would he be keeping it in secret for more than a year. And so the second one. I simply doubt something like that can be true. For me it's much more probable that they found the glitch recently, no matter how they did it, however still it's hard to believe. Pretty mysterious stuff though :) Let's see if anything shows off.

[Suentous PO]

Laughing at ppl guessing hacks and year old secrets.
It's not like recent updates haven't borked 1h weapons;
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/lordzenu1/63CC2FE1-EA0E-4C30-8807-333B0DEACE2D_zpsa9vi0vm1.jpg (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/lordzenu1/media/63CC2FE1-EA0E-4C30-8807-333B0DEACE2D_zpsa9vi0vm1.jpg.html)

If you could hack, why waste time on only this? Why not lv 1 ring of valiance or something.

[BroadCastle]

^Sentous PO

You really do laugh at me?

Judging on "hack" is irrelevant for sure. Yet people mostly say it like some joke. I'm pretty sure nobody thought of some code hacking thus your mention about it is lil bit incorrect. Talon glitch you bring here was regular update bug corrected by devs fast - actually I don't really understand what did you mean to say about that...?

Year old secret was mentioned by me in more ironic way. I said that I doubt these weapons come from some BSM release glitch right because keeping it in secret for a year seems unbelieveable.

Honestly, your posts are usually very smart and reasonable so I'm wondering what is that thing above supposed to be :o

[Trenton]

^Sentous PO

You really do laugh at me?

Judging on "hack" is irrelevant for sure. Yet people mostly say it like some joke. I'm pretty sure nobody thought of some code hacking thus your mention about it is lil bit incorrect. Talon glitch you bring here was regular update bug corrected by devs fast - actually I don't really understand what did you mean to say about that...?

Year old secret was mentioned by me in more ironic way. I said that I doubt these weapons come from some BSM release glitch right because keeping it in secret for a year seems unbelieveable.

Honestly, your posts are usually very smart and reasonable so I'm wondering what is that thing above supposed to be :o
Lol

[Suentous PO]

@ Broadc

Sorry not making fun of anyone. Just a phrase so to speak. For me the more likely answer is that the devs messed up code and it is just now being discovered.
The talons were an example. We've had a few updates lately ( one "fix" for quests completely messed up), so to me the simplest answer is most likely.
Namely sts messed these up very recently.

[for the lulz]

trade u green forg staff + 10 mil gold for it

[for the lulz]

this might explain why my black drag armor is showing l72 instead of 71 . i was confused all along

[for the lulz]

lol jk

[BroadCastle]

@ Broadc

Sorry not making fun of anyone. Just a phrase so to speak. For me the more likely answer is that the devs messed up code and it is just now being discovered.
The talons were an example. We've had a few updates lately ( one "fix" for quests completely messed up), so to me the simplest answer is most likely.
Namely sts messed these up very recently.

All good :) I didn't get your previous post right. As i said I also think theres some simplier clue beyond. So you'd assume that some recent update may have affected these particular items turning them from l75 to l71? Well everything is posible and this is more credible than that guys storry. Still it would be pretty surprising bug. Talon bug simply affected all talons. This would have needed some reason why the other scythes/talons remained unchanged.

[Suentous PO]

Remember before the deep mt bundle was introduced?
Someone found it in their stash, wore it around town and threads popped up saying wth!?
Turned out the new vanity shared some code (admitted assumption) that caused the old Santa outfit to become the deep mt jacket briefly. I had one before they were available.
The commonality I see here is one handed weapons. So that's what I guess is the code that has been messed up.
If bits of code are shared in many places it would explain the devs statement that "it is easier to make a new game than fix an old one. "

They "fix" one thing, and several unforeseen situations cascade.

[BroadCastle]

If more instances of the same issue appear in following days, it will point out your guess as correct. With only 2 so far, it's really hard to say. My experiences from programming (however shallow) makes me assume that such an error in code would affect whole group of items, not only few. Sure they might be some surprising bounds and relations in code causing some coincidence which results in that but that would be really rare case.

[Seoratrek]

I've notified the devs of this. Thanks for letting us know! :)