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Etarbitrev
09-05-2014, 04:05 PM
Various people have asked me to do a Level 15 Enchantress Guide so seeing as though I'm not going to be doing 15-20 alot anymore I thought I'd share my "secrets" lol.

BEWARE THIS IS ONE HELL OF A GUIDE ITS VERY LONG --> but on the + side its EVERYTHING I know about 15 Mages (that i can think of atm) ;).

BUILDS:
There are various different builds you can use but different ones have different requirements (obviously) so I'll tell you the dis/advantages of them all.

IMO there are 2 builds.

1. The common but VERY effective
6 light 5 heal 1 drain 1 fire 1 frost

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Advantages:
Very good all-rounded build has the potential to beat NEARLY everything.

Disadvantages:
The only disadvantage is you can be beaten by other mages with 'Founders Helm'.
Founders Helm gives +5 DPS & +5 Armour so it is a MAJOR advantage at this level.

2. Founders Build
6 light 4 heal 1 frostbite 1 frostwall
1 fire 1 drain

Advantages:
Once mastered is literally unbeatable

Disadvantages:
VERY hard to master & only PROPERLY works with founders helm. *P.S Onebeastmage uses it but it is still possible to beat him using the correct gear.

STATS:
For both builds you should always use 22 INT & 57 DEX.

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22 INT enables good mana regen which is essential in the majority of mage vs tank fights.
This combined with the DEX enables good nuke power.

List of Gear...

Helms:

Woodland Cap102616
15 Plat (L.15 Fox Special Edition Set) bought in store

H'ween DEX/INT Helm 102618
Farmed in H'ween event, mainly bought from CS


Weapons:

Toyman102619
Farmed in 2010 Xmas Event, mainly bought from CS
Paw102620
Farmed in H'ween Event, mainly bought from CS

Dreamer's Wand102621
35 plat (L.10 INT plat pack) bought in store


Shield:

Evidence Bracer 102614
Farmed in H'ween Events, but mainly bought from CS

Cuddle-Me102615
Farmed in Xmas Events, but mainly bought from CS


Armor:

Artisan102622
Very rare recipe can be farmed (then crafted), but mainly bought from CS

Expert102622
Very rare recipe can be farmed (then crafted), but mainly bought from CS

Alchemist102623
Very rare recipe can be farmed (then crafted), but mainly bought from CS


Rings:

Champion's Fine Platinum Band102624
10 plat in store

Magician's Fine Golden Band102625
10 plat in store


SETUPS:
1. ~ DMG ~ H'ween DEX helm, Toyman/Paw, Evidence Bracer L.15, Expert L.15, 2 Crit/8 DPS ring.
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2. ~ Midfight Regen.
*IMPORTANT*
Okay this might seem quite complicating or pointless,
BUT, in my opinion its essential:

It really helps because if you wear the same vanities, then your opponent WONT NOTICE the midfight change IF YOU CHANGE FAST ENOUGH.

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Ok so heres what you do:

1. Wear '15 plat' L.15 fox Helm.
2. Wear a random Weapon & Shield (that you won't have in your invent after you delete them).
3. Wear Alchemist L.5 Armour.
4. Wear 1 m/s 1 h/s 8 DPS ring.
5. Save this into 1 of the loadout slots.
6. DELETE the "random Weapon & Shield".
*Make sure that none of that specific "random Weapon & Shield" are in your inventory.*
7. Go from "Toy" loadout to "Midfight Regen".
(You should have your regen stuff but toy aswell.) --> This is the same for if you wear a forgotten bow set.


Explanation:
Now that this is done, when ur 1/4 mana u can switch to 'midfight regen'.

****Also a bonus is you can use
2. 'Midfight Regen' for any gear setup, so if you wore forg you would still change to the most effective regen set.****

3. ~ Armor ~ H'ween INT helm, Artisan L.15, Paw/Toyman L.15, (Preferably Pink)Bracer L.15, 2% Hit 6 Armour Ring
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*IMPORTANT*
Although it seems minor, you will need to buy FESTIVE HAT from the cs or if u have the red version wear that, as it gives 1.5 Armour and PL doesn't work in 0.5s so it rounds it up to +2 armour for the supposedly +1 vanity Helm.

4. ~ Full Regen ~ '15 Plat' L.15 fox Helm, '35 Plat' L.10 Dreamer's wand, Alchemist L.5, Xmas Cuddle-me/ornament, 1 m/s 1 h/s 6 armour ring.
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COMBOES:
Basics.. The High Damage combo is Frost + Fire (make sure they're frozen before using fire).
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Also, if you're clever to deal a lot of damage at 1 given time, use the skill delays, for example, light/drain delay.
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VS BEAR - Frost them after they stomp and make sure you stay out of slashing distance. I normally use: light, fire, heal (if stomped), frost (after stomp). And then repeat but whilst they are frozen you can heal up to full hp again, then repeat.
KEY POINTS: Know your ranges or you'll get your face slashed off by bears. + Dont underestimate "Raged" Auto damage, more often than not its 70-100 per auto + stomp, So make sure you give urself time away from their auto range, because it accumilates.102633

VS MAGE - this is the slightly trickier part... Some mages comboes are different so you have to work around this --> if they did frost light fire drain heal. You could counter it by doing light heal frost fire drain. But it would have to be timed well.
Mages IMO are very much about improvisation. You have to know a mage's weakness/strengths and use it against others.
This is why it is very hard for me to put into words how to vs a mage. The BEST way is definitely to try things out for yourself and the more u try the better you will get.
THE OVERALL: Your aim is to either: 1. Save mana till they're fully debuffed by light, then swap to DMG and then try to kill. OR. 2. Save mana till they swap to their mana set, but you need to anticipate this & try to full combo whilst they switch, which will put them on the backfoot if it doesnt kill them.

You also need to have a collection of different tactics & strategies to beat different playing styles as different people play differently (obviously).

VS BIRD - Not very hard, if their 'break' hurts alot heal it & nvm about the roots, if their break doesn't hurt then fire, heal roots, frost and kite the combo, as they probably have high blast. However the majority now have high break, so watch for that.

VS HIPPO - Not too complicated, heal their dashes as it prevents them from comboing, make sure you're constantly kiting and frosting them after they heal. It is very much a mana fight vs rhinos. So when they switch to mana regen, you use 'forg' + 'midfight regen' set to nuke them whilst not running out of mana.

VS FOX - I haven't vsed a challenging fox since the dmg nerf so don't worry, just make sure you hit them with light and time your heals right.

And if you're successful with this, then you will most likely get a lot of kills ;) ty mega
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Hope it wasn't too long of a guide, mages are a brilliant class imo so I hope you will enjoy it as much as I do.

If you want to challenge yourself try to look for mages like: Onebeastmage(quit), Zetris(quit), Haxnuke(quit), Eminem(quit) or Me (I'm the most active atm), Mobbed(quit also >_>),
additions to this are: Eternaltoast & Lamars & Superdryjpn they have read this guide & have improved no end because of it.

Or bears like: Fight (aka hungrybastard, aka Divinerusher), Megatwink(banned), Bous(quit), Bossology(quit), Fighter(quit), Terror(banned) (aka fetishzs(current name of new char) or fetishsz idk), Ogstealth, Whiippd, Vaws

P.S sorry if I missed anyone out.
Don't forget to press the THANKS (thumbs up) button if it was helpful
����
Special Thanks go to: Megs, Bree, Kaw & Cana(for the "Ello?")


EDIT: I take it back. Paw is more noob than fbow. Use toy. Toy bae.

& Finally,


Wp'd.


~> Inv




P.S - As many of you already know I have quit so you wont see ME ig. For more info ask somebody old who knew me

Etarbitrev
09-05-2014, 04:39 PM
Hahaha :P

AppleNoob
09-05-2014, 04:46 PM
Various people have asked me to do a Level 15 Enchantress Guide so seeing as though I'm not going to be doing 15-20 alot anymore I thought I'd share my "secrets" lol.

BEWARE THIS IS ONE HELL OF A GUIDE ITS VERY LONG --> but on the + side its EVERYTHING I know about 15 Mages (that i can think of atm) ;).

BUILDS:
There are various different builds you can use but different ones have different requirements (obviously) so I'll tell you the dis/advantages of them all.

IMO there are 2 builds.

1. The common but VERY effective
6 light 5 heal 1 drain 1 fire 1 frost

102630

Advantages:
Very good all-rounded build has the potential to beat NEARLY everything.

Disadvantages:
The only disadvantage is you can be beaten by other mages with 'Founders Helm'.
Founders Helm gives +5 DPS & +5 Armour so it is a MAJOR advantage at this level.

2. Founders Build
6 light 4 heal 1 frostbite 1 frostwall
1 fire 1 drain

Advantages:
Once mastered is literally unbeatable

Disadvantages:
VERY hard to master & only PROPERLY works with founders helm. *P.S Onebeastmage uses it but it is still possible to beat him using the correct gear.

STATS:
For both builds you should always use 22 INT & 57 DEX.

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22 INT enables good mana regen which is essential in the majority of mage vs tank fights.
This combined with the DEX enables good nuke power.

List of Gear...

Helms:

Woodland Cap102616
15 Plat (L.15 Fox Special Edition Set) bought in store

H'ween DEX/INT Helm 102618
Farmed in H'ween event, mainly bought from CS


Weapons:

Toyman102619
Farmed in 2010 Xmas Event, mainly bought from CS
Paw102620
Farmed in H'ween Event, mainly bought from CS

Dreamer's Wand102621
35 plat (L.10 INT plat pack) bought in store


Shield:

Evidence Bracer 102614
Farmed in H'ween Events, but mainly bought from CS

Cuddle-Me102615
Farmed in Xmas Events, but mainly bought from CS


Armor:

Artisan102622
Very rare recipe can be farmed (then crafted), but mainly bought from CS

Expert102622
Very rare recipe can be farmed (then crafted), but mainly bought from CS

Alchemist102623
Very rare recipe can be farmed (then crafted), but mainly bought from CS


Rings:

Champion's Fine Platinum Band102624
10 plat in store

Magician's Fine Golden Band102625
10 plat in store


SETUPS:
1. ~ DMG ~ H'ween DEX helm, Toyman/Paw, Evidence Bracer L.15, Expert L.15, 2 Crit/8 DPS ring.
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2. ~ Midfight Regen.
*IMPORTANT*
Okay this might seem quite complicating or pointless but it really helps because if you wear the same vanities then your opponent often doesn't notice the midfight change.
102609
Ok so heres what you do:
Wear '15 plat' L.15 fox Helm.
Wear a 'Placement' Weapon & Shield.
Wear Alchemist L.5 Armour.
Wear 1 m/s 1 h/s 8 DPS ring.

Now, save this into 1 of the slots and then DELETE the PLACEMENT items. Make sure that none of that specific item is in your inventory so then when you go to outload it you will wear the last weapon/shield you wore.

Explanation:
Now that this is done, when ur 1/4 mana u can switch to 'midfight regen' & the opponent won't notice (if you're quick enough).
Also a bonus is you can use 2. 'Midfight Regen' for any gear setup, so if you wore forg you would still change to the most effective regen set.

3. ~ Armor ~ H'ween INT helm, Artisan L.15, Paw/Toyman L.15, (Preferably Pink)Bracer L.15, 2% Hit 6 Armour Ring
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*IMPORTANT*
Although it seems minor, you will need to buy FESTIVE HAT from the cs or if u have the red version wear that, as it gives 1.5 Armour and PL doesn't work in 0.5s so it rounds it up to +2 armour for the supposedly +1 vanity Helm.

4. ~ Full Regen ~ '15 Plat' L.15 fox Helm, '35 Plat' L.10 Dreamer's wand, Alchemist L.5, Xmas Cuddle-me/ornament, 1 m/s 1 h/s 6 armour ring.
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-----

COMBOES:
Basics.. The High Damage combo is Frost + Fire (make sure they're frozen before using fire).
102634
Also, if you're clever to deal a lot of damage at 1 given time, use the skill delays, for example, light/drain delay.102635

VS BEAR - Frost them after they stomp and make sure you stay out of slashing distance. I normally use: light, fire, heal (if stomped), frost (after stomp). And then repeat but whilst they are frozen you can heal up to full hp again, then repeat.
KEY POINTS: Know your ranges or you'll get your face slashed off by bears. + Dont underestimate "Raged" Auto damage, more often than not its 70-100 per auto + stomp, So make sure you give urself time away from their auto range, because it accumilates.102633

VS MAGE - this is the slightly trickier part... Some mages comboes are different so you have to work around this --> if they did frost light fire drain heal. You could counter it by doing light heal frost fire drain. But it would have to be timed well.
Mages IMO are very much about improvisation. You have to know a mage's weakness/strengths and use it against others.
This is why it is very hard for me to put into words how to vs a mage. The BEST way is definitely to try things out for yourself and the more u try the better you will get.
THE OVERALL: Your aim is to either: 1. Save mana till they're fully debuffed by light, then swap to DMG and then try to kill. OR. 2. Save mana till they swap to their mana set, but you need to anticipate this & try to full combo whilst they switch, which will put them on the backfoot if it doesnt kill them.

VS BIRD - Not very hard, if their 'break' hurts alot heal it & nvm about the roots, if their break doesn't hurt then fire, heal roots, frost and kite the combo, as they probably have high blast.

VS HIPPO - Not too complicated, heal their dashes as it prevents them from comboing, make sure you're constantly kiting and frosting them after they heal. It is very much a mana fight vs rhinos. So when they switch to mana regen, you use 'forg' + 'midfight regen' set to nuke them whilst not running out of mana.

VS FOX - I haven't vsed a challenging fox since the dmg nerf so don't worry, just make sure you hit them with light and time your heals right.

And if you're successful with this, then you will most likely get a lot of kills ;) ty mega
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Hope it wasn't too long of a guide, It's literally everything I know about mages so I hope you will enjoy it as much as I do.

If you want to challenge yourself try to look for mages like: Onebeastmage, Zetris, Haxnuke, Eminem or Me (I'm the most active atm)
Or bears like: Fight (aka hungrybastard, aka Divinerusher), Megatwink, Bous, Bossology, Fighter, Terror (aka fetishzs or fetishsz idk)

P.S sorry if I missed anyone out.
Don't forget to press the THANKS (thumbs up) button if it was helpful ��
Special Thanks go to: Megs, Bree, Kaw & Cana.
I shall never be pro like fight :"(. Anyways good guild.

Etarbitrev
09-05-2014, 04:50 PM
Guide* :P

programmed
09-05-2014, 04:52 PM
Didn't you already make a l15 mage guide?

Etarbitrev
09-05-2014, 05:02 PM
Yea but ppl annoyed me by saying it wasnt good cus had no pics & I missed out some details + I took out fbow cus nub.

programmed
09-05-2014, 05:09 PM
Yea but ppl annoyed me by saying it wasnt good cus had no pics & I missed out some details + I took out fbow cus nub.

Well you're going to get negative feedback in a guide, especially when it was your first.

Etarbitrev
09-05-2014, 05:15 PM
Ik, it was just going to keep annoyin me until i fixed it tho :)

breeisbae
09-05-2014, 05:22 PM
Great guide! Loved all of it! My fav part are the special thanks! Hehe[emoji23][emoji12]

Etarbitrev
09-05-2014, 05:30 PM
;) np & I'm glad u liked it :D

Rescind
09-05-2014, 05:31 PM
Inklood da stats ov da itemz fer moar info

Etarbitrev
09-05-2014, 05:32 PM
Dam that took some understandin lmao

Rescind
09-05-2014, 07:07 PM
Hao so diffkult Tu uhderstand mi languege

Etarbitrev
09-06-2014, 04:08 AM
Kus et iz rily randm.

Burningdex
09-06-2014, 06:03 AM
perfect kudos to you :)

Education
09-06-2014, 11:01 AM
Nice guide, now I need to help Tree figure out a movie snack :/

Etarbitrev
09-06-2014, 11:15 AM
Lol & tyvm Burnin

Rescind
09-06-2014, 01:35 PM
I dun tink itz viry hard tu undiestand mi languige

Etarbitrev
10-16-2014, 09:36 AM
RIP Mega

bosstinytitan
01-21-2015, 07:18 PM
Nice guide!

Etarbitrev
01-22-2015, 07:38 AM
Cheers :)

HeyitsTubs
01-22-2015, 08:12 AM
yeah, helped me alot!

Etarbitrev
01-22-2015, 08:16 AM
I'm glad it did :) maybe eventually we'll be at the same ratio as bear:mage. Instead of mages being outnumbered 3:1 normally.

HeyitsTubs
01-22-2015, 08:31 AM
yeah ikr

HeyitsTubs
01-22-2015, 08:32 AM
hey, and if u got time, please check out my entry for the 20m Level One Contest (page 7)

Click the thanks if ya like it! Thanks .

Etarbitrev
01-22-2015, 06:15 PM
Ok will do :)

Etarbitrev
01-26-2015, 08:40 AM
Is there any point in me adding an Fbow section to this?

iRandom
01-26-2015, 10:04 AM
Is there any point in me adding an Fbow section to this?

no.

zaorago
01-26-2015, 11:23 AM
One of the best L.15 Mage Guide's i have ever encountered. +1

Etarbitrev
01-26-2015, 04:32 PM
Tyvm :)

AppleNoob
01-26-2015, 05:04 PM
Is there any point in me adding an Fbow section to this?

No, but I want an expert's opinion!

iRandom
01-26-2015, 10:34 PM
No, but I want an expert's opinion!

no.

Vvriter
01-27-2015, 12:51 AM
5 Heal, 5 Fire, 1 Frostbite, 1 Ice Storm,1 Drain, 1 Light

6 Heal, 5 Fire, 1 Frostbite, 1 Drain, 1 Light

6 Heal, 1 Fire, 5 Frostbite, 1 Drain, 1 Light

Are fun too :eagerness: (Trash Vs. Mages & some Rhinos though)

Etarbitrev
01-27-2015, 02:27 AM
Lmao @vvrit you forgot old build, 6 drain 6 fire 1 frost 1 heal

iRandom
01-27-2015, 11:02 PM
Lmao @vvrit you forgot old build, 6 drain 6 fire 1 frost 1 heal

thats by build

Etarbitrev
01-28-2015, 05:17 AM
Besh beeld evar.

Communion
01-28-2015, 05:58 AM
I shall never be pro like fight :"(. Anyways good guild.

Dang, lel thought it was the actual thing cuz i scrolled down at the start and skipped the guide to see how far it would go, since verti said it would be a long guide.. 😇

Etarbitrev
01-28-2015, 06:07 AM
Wut?

Buchmeister
02-03-2015, 09:41 PM
Hate to disagree with you but paw is actually a very good weapon because it's CHEAP. Toy is good as well but it's hella 'spensive

Etarbitrev
02-04-2015, 03:37 AM
Where did I say Paw is worse than Toy? If I did, it was probably the biggest mistake I've ever made.

As far as I'm concerned,
Toy>Forg>Paw.

I've always said that.

Motivating
02-04-2015, 10:35 AM
omg ty fur dis gied liek omg dis help mi so mush

Etarbitrev
02-11-2015, 05:01 PM
Updated.
- clarify what to do with the 'mid fight' loadout & how to go about setting it up.

~> Inv

AppleNoob
02-11-2015, 11:02 PM
Updated.
- clarify what to do with the 'mid fight' loadout & how to go about setting it up.

~> Inv

Clarify how to press buttons.

Morphing
02-12-2015, 03:29 PM
You use FB >_>

Morphing
02-12-2015, 03:30 PM
Great Guide

ToastyLord
02-12-2015, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the guide! helped me out a lot

(Yay I was mentioned :D)

Edumacation
02-14-2015, 10:42 PM
STG should have a "Guide of the Year" sticker. I know it won't happen, but it's worth a try.

Etarbitrev
02-24-2015, 03:38 AM
:O yeah great idea.

Etarbitrev
03-01-2015, 04:29 PM
Pm any ideas you have that I could include to aid this guide & make it better or easier to understand in anyway.

~> Inv

AppleNoob
03-02-2015, 08:15 AM
Fighter hasn't quit.

Etarbitrev
03-03-2015, 05:04 AM
He hasn't??
What level he PvP? I rarely see him at 15 >_>

AppleNoob
03-03-2015, 10:11 PM
He hasn't??
What level he PvP? I rarely see him at 15 >_>

He was 15 or 18. All I know is I rushed him with my 17 mage.

Etarbitrev
03-04-2015, 04:00 AM
When? Recently?

AppleNoob
03-04-2015, 07:44 AM
When? Recently?

Yes, a couple of days ago.

Etarbitrev
03-04-2015, 05:48 PM
Wao fighter nub.

Etarbitrev
03-15-2015, 11:07 AM
15 needs more mages & decent pvpers in general dont be hesitant to pm me if you need help with anything ig.

Motivating
03-15-2015, 11:59 AM
Can u halp me.

zaorago
03-15-2015, 04:47 PM
15 needs more mages & decent pvpers in general dont be hesitant to pm me if you need help with anything ig.

You commented just so your guide gets up there :)

AppleNoob
03-15-2015, 06:34 PM
15 needs more mages & decent pvpers in general dont be hesitant to pm me if you need help with anything ig.

I'm here, surely that's all you need.

Pretzelthekid
03-17-2015, 02:12 PM
I need a paw :p

Etarbitrev
03-17-2015, 06:18 PM
You commented just so your guide gets up there :)
Honestly, I'd say thats 50/50, cus they aint enough good 15 mages about now so it sucks.

Buchmeister
03-20-2015, 09:28 PM
"Paw is more noob than fbow. Use toy. Toy bae."

I disagree with that exact statement ^

omgteenwolf
03-22-2015, 02:57 PM
this was so in depth, great guide!

Etarbitrev
03-24-2015, 03:44 AM
"Paw is more noob than fbow. Use toy. Toy bae."

I disagree with that exact statement ^
Well, fbow proc is kiteable & there are ways to get around the hit debuff.
paw proc is stackable (rare tho ill admit) & almost always happens to me immediately after heal so = dead.
After dedicating 75% of my PL time at 10-20 & around 90% playing mages then I think ik what I'm talkin bout bruv ;)

carepackage
03-28-2015, 01:23 PM
ahh bro you forgot me in there. ;P

-Nubsixteen

AppleNoob
03-28-2015, 09:48 PM
ahh bro you forgot me in there. ;P

-Nubsixteen

U no deserve luv

Motivating
03-29-2015, 05:25 AM
Bruv.

Etarbitrev
04-14-2015, 02:46 AM
Been asked to bump this by zork cus he's blind & a newb to forums

Etarbitrev
04-14-2015, 02:49 AM
Fair one. Yeh I cba to edit so I'll just say I've put you in in the small print

Budapest
04-15-2015, 03:13 PM
Good guide. I'm a fan of 1 Frostbite 6 Lightning 4 Heal 1 Firestorm 1 Drain 1 Revive build though.

Budapest
04-15-2015, 03:18 PM
Good guide. I'm a fan of 1 Frostbite 6 Lightning 4 Heal 1 Firestorm 1 Drain 1 Revive build though.

Oh, and my personal favorite.
6 Frostbite 3 Lightning 1 Firestorm 4 Heal

Budapest
04-15-2015, 04:40 PM
OH! You should also add a Forgotten Bow section.

Etarbitrev
04-15-2015, 05:03 PM
The build you mentioned doesn't work in PvP, just thought I'd tell you before you die needlessly cus I'm that thoughtful.
also, there isn't much point, not many 15 mages can acquire a 15 pink fb + majority of them aren't committed + just no thanks.

Budapest
04-15-2015, 05:35 PM
The build you mentioned doesn't work in PvP, just thought I'd tell you before you die needlessly cus I'm that thoughtful.
also, there isn't much point, not many 15 mages can acquire a 15 pink fb + majority of them aren't committed + just no thanks.

I posted two. The first one works quite well, and is probably even better than your first one in team fights. As for the second one, that was Pre-Fbow, and it was quite fun. Still is. I've used them both and I've been quite successful with my 15 mages. Also, there's a lot of point. I haven't seen one 15 mage rocking any gear that's less than 500k...since Pre-Fbow due to the Paw+Evi/Fbow OPness. You also have a Paw+Toyman+Evi in your guide? Quite sure Paws+Evi go for as much as 15 Fbows, if not more... & Toymans...not even going to go into that. Just saying a Lv.10-15 Purple Fbow can beat some of the best gears (Pink Paw/Pink Toyman+Evi/Snipers), and it costs around 300k-500k to obtain one. I highly suggest putting this into your guide, as L.10 Dreamer's wand really isn't that viable for 10-20 PvP these days. "+ just no thanks" Darn. I'll just make one with Fbows included since you're too lazy. :encouragement:

Etarbitrev
04-15-2015, 05:53 PM
Well, wasted effort for one reason + I dont really care about this game as much as I used to for a variety of valid reasons. Also the builds you suggested, in my experience, aren't good. If we're talking team fights then thats a completely diff style, setup & type. Also, if you haven't seen a mage wearing less than 500k, thats probably because people dont like losing with snipers & candle. Get a 10-15 purp fbow & use that vs a bear, idk whether you meant that or not, but still that wouldn't work. + I made this guide when you could buy a purp paw for 100k & evid for 200k.
Still though, feel free to, imo, waste your time making a guide catered, stereotypically, towards newer players(100% guarentee majority of them dont even know what the forums even is).

Etarbitrev
04-15-2015, 05:57 PM
Also, without sounding aggro, I didnt post these for them to be sub par standard & be "quite fun" in the fact that they are only good for things like trolling & killing noobs.

& you misunderstand why I put the wand in the guide. It is for regen after fight. Not mid fight. Hence the named loadout MID FIGHT which does not include dreamers, we clear on that? Ya?

Budapest
04-15-2015, 06:16 PM
Well, wasted effort for one reason + I dont really care about this game as much as I used to for a variety of valid reasons. Also the builds you suggested, in my experience, aren't good. If we're talking team fights then thats a completely diff style, setup & type. Also, if you haven't seen a mage wearing less than 500k, thats probably because people dont like losing with snipers & candle. Get a 10-15 purp fbow & use that vs a bear, idk whether you meant that or not, but still that wouldn't work. + I made this guide when you could buy a purp paw for 100k & evid for 200k.
Still though, feel free to, imo, waste your time making a guide catered, stereotypically, towards newer players(100% guarentee majority of them dont even know what the forums even is).

Sorry for all the prices of gear then, but if you did in fact make these when Paw+Evi were 300k, then Fbows can be a good alternative seeing how they go for around 300k. If you are reviving these guides for your friends who are lost for whatever reason... I still recommend a Fbow section. As for the 10-15 Fbows not being viable vs Bears, sorry to say but...they work as good, if not, then even better against bears than Paws do. That's just my opinion though, I've always preferred nuking over tanking.
I'll get to it eventually, if I ever do.

Budapest
04-15-2015, 06:18 PM
Also, without sounding aggro, I didnt post these for them to be sub par standard & be "quite fun" in the fact that they are only good for things like trolling & killing noobs.

& you misunderstand why I put the wand in the guide. It is for regen after fight. Not mid fight. Hence the named loadout MID FIGHT which does not include dreamers, we clear on that? Ya?

I see. I usually just carry out regen with my fbow + alchemist setup, and continue putting pressure on the other mage to heal, while I have infinite mana to spam lightning+heal (only 2 skills that matter in 15 mage v mage tbh).

Etarbitrev
04-15-2015, 08:20 PM
@1st comment, I don't know, but forg is considered quite useful yes I will admit, however, paw vs fb, when used correctly paw wins. Thats one of the myriad of things I'll thank One for showing me.
Although, I 100% agree Forg can be highly effective in regen situation paw vs forg, forg won't get the chance to last that long without have stacked proc throughout the fight continuously as the dmg becomes too much to sustain.

debateable about the 2 skill thing, yeah light & heal are endlessly more important, that isn't to say frost & fire dont matter.. They do insanely, otherwise I'd be lvl13 again lol.

This isn't to say that I wont, but all the people I have personally refered to this guide, have either been rich enough to get all the gear or they are checking to see what they are doing wrong or differently to me in PvP.

also, if there are little bits I haven't added, maybe it'd be better for the community that reads this to fill them in independantly as they need to actually put some effort in instead of being spoon-fed all the info.

cheers for the ideas tho

Budapest
04-15-2015, 10:26 PM
My pleasure. :loyal:

carepackage
04-16-2015, 04:27 PM
zzz I might make a mage sometime...got enough money
-Nubsixteen

Etarbitrev
04-16-2015, 04:30 PM
Hit me up with a pm ig & I'll help you out once you tell me what you are able to get with all that moneyz ;)

Domestically
04-16-2015, 05:32 PM
Hit me up with a pm ig & I'll help you out once you tell me what you are able to get with all that moneyz ;)

You mind helping me with 15 or 20 mage? I want to start

Budapest
04-16-2015, 10:38 PM
You mind helping me with 15 or 20 mage? I want to start

I recommend going straight into 35/40. You'll learn everything at that level.

Motivating
04-17-2015, 01:54 AM
lol ^

11...

Etarbitrev
04-17-2015, 02:48 AM
I recommend going straight into 35/40. You'll learn everything at that level.
I'm sorry but 35-40 mage is a fast paced 15-20 mage.
Oh forgot to mention,
don't die more than 2x vs the same person if nobody knows who you are, as they'll most likely start to team you.
don't join any 40 games
don't sound AT ALL sarcastic to anyone otherwise they'll rush you...
...make sure if you get in this situation^ make sure you don't start winning him otherwise he'll get his fwens/gildies & team you.
don't argue with anybody at that level, they'll rush you.
don't be arrogant to anyone you'll be rushed :D
don't be modest, gets you nowhere:smiley_simmons:

So, the overall conclusion, learn how to mage then go back to 35 & dominate everybody at that level & say "That was a Badmove"

N' yes I'd be more than happy to vs.. Owwnn* anyone at 35 just ask me below :encouragement:

Leave comments & likes below (what else you gonna do), aaand as always Wp'd. & Good Gaming.

Motivating
04-17-2015, 09:35 AM
35-40 sounds fun, I'm gonna try it!

Budapest
04-17-2015, 11:16 AM
Sorry but 35-40...is hardly a "fast paced 15-20 mage".

15 won't teach you about BoM/BoV importance.
15 won't teach you how effective, & ineffective MS (Mana Shield) can be.
15 won't teach you how effective, & ineffective debuffs can be.
15 won't teach you how to STR mage/pure as an INT mage.
15 won't give you a vast majority of gear selections...as it's ineffective to even try.
15 won't teach you why everyone dislikes Dogs/Defenders/Virgins. :)
@ 15, you'll get rushed by anyone if you look the slightest bit of noob, or "unknown".
don't sound AT ALL sarcastic to anyone otherwise they'll rush you...
...make sure if you get in this situation^ make sure you don't start winning him otherwise he'll get his fwens/gildies & team you.
don't argue with anybody at that level, they'll rush you.
don't be arrogant to anyone you'll be rushed
don't be modest, gets you nowhere

All of these apply to 15.
Don't join any 20 games. You'll be rushed by every rhino, and most likely won't have a chance at winning as a 15 mage by yourself.

Overall conclusion: You'll learn more at 35, than you mostly likely will at 15. The 30-35 community is also less fragile than the 15-20 :), & you'll see a majority of the good 30/35 mages that still play from time to time (Smith + Blitz + Swagrose, all I saw just yesterday), and can most likely ask them for tips. 3 brains can surpass 1. :)

Budapest
04-17-2015, 11:18 AM
lol ^

11...

Lol ^ at this lol ^

Etarbitrev
04-17-2015, 11:33 AM
Cheers for the bump :)

Budapest
04-17-2015, 11:38 AM
Another W. :encouragement:

Etarbitrev
04-17-2015, 12:55 PM
Thanks. Keep em up?

Budapest
04-17-2015, 02:08 PM
You mind helping me with 15 or 20 mage? I want to start

Oh and, 30-35 is significantly cheaper than 15-20. Takes you about 2m for decent gears, & if you aren't feeling the vibe(2muchego) you can drop it and go to another level easily. :)

Rescind
04-17-2015, 02:20 PM
Swagrose isn't that great tho. He gets angry when he loses or says "luck"

Etarbitrev
04-17-2015, 03:24 PM
Lol AMEN to that^

@Nubsixteen sure mate pm me ig with my KNOWN char that ISNT banned :smiley_simmons:

Burningdex
04-17-2015, 05:50 PM
Lol vert, whos ur 35? ill 1v1 oin my 30 >:-) add me on burningdex

Motivating
04-17-2015, 06:36 PM
I played 30 once, it was painful.

Etarbitrev
04-18-2015, 04:12 AM
Ahahaha I'll second that moti, it was painful for my mage & painful for my eyes XD

Etarbitrev
04-21-2015, 05:16 AM
Budapest you suck at your job, wtfh is going on.
L2Bump

Etarbitrev
04-21-2015, 05:19 AM
666th post :O ^

also, Burn vs my 30 mage, I'll shrek you ;)
P.S, dont try n vs my 35, the rektage will be too real (might break the game)
P.S.S the name is Wenchant (30), & Badmove (35)

GiveMeWings
04-21-2015, 05:21 AM
666th post :O ^

also, Burn vs my 30 mage, I'll shrek you ;)
P.S, dont try n vs my 35, the rektage will be too real (might break the game)
P.S.S the name is Wenchant (30), & Badmove (35)
U suck at 35 :3

Budapest
04-21-2015, 04:27 PM
Budapest you suck at your job, wtfh is going on.
L2Bump

Excuse me...

I'm bes, ok.

Etarbitrev
04-22-2015, 02:53 AM
#Ego vs me (anyone)

Etarbitrev
04-28-2015, 03:00 AM
Omg buda, nvm, YOU'RE FIRED.

Opening job position: Bumping my thread :O
leave job applications below & I'll get back to you, its a minimum wage job so you be getting 200g for eery bump if you get the job.

AppleNoob
04-28-2015, 07:40 AM
Bump! (Yes, I'm that poor)

Etarbitrev
04-28-2015, 09:08 AM
Lmao, leave ur CV below pls :banana:

zaorago
04-29-2015, 12:36 AM
Yo invert will be making my last video. And i really want you in it!

Etarbitrev
04-29-2015, 02:16 AM
Tell me when pal, I will definitely be on later tonight. We gonna F*** S*** up.

Etarbitrev
08-04-2015, 05:46 AM
Worth a bump for a change of all the " Who's the best Level 'X' " threads lol.

iRandom
08-04-2015, 10:22 AM
Worth a bump for a change of all the " Who's the best Level 'X' " threads lol.
Useless to say 15. We already know who the best is.

Etarbitrev
08-05-2015, 05:57 AM
Lol ... Humour me.

iRandom
08-05-2015, 10:20 AM
Lol ... Humour me.

Wasp ofc! He too pro for us! DDDD:

Etarbitrev
08-11-2015, 06:55 AM
Idk how to reply to this, at first I laughed, then was confused, now I cant stop laughing lol

AppleNoob
08-11-2015, 01:30 PM
Wasp ofc! He too pro for us! DDDD:

He's still at 15? I thought he ran off to 25.

Etarbitrev
08-12-2015, 02:28 AM
One of the many reasons for my reaction(s).

lordtp
09-25-2015, 02:26 AM
Hey Invertibrate, that was a great guide.

But I am confused with a skill you mentioned as frostwall, I think you meant ice storm. Please correct that.

And I would like to see your skill map as well so to get a better understanding of in which order to use skills when fighting bears, mages or birds.

Thanks again for this great guide friend.
Subscribed to this thread ^^

IGN:Lordtp

Iilhopeliliil
09-25-2015, 02:52 AM
Hey Invertibrate, that was a great guide.

But I am confused with a skill you mentioned as frostwall, I think you meant ice storm. Please correct that.

And I would like to see your skill map as well so to get a better understanding of in which order to use skills when fighting bears, mages or birds.

Thanks again for this great guide friend.
Subscribed to this thread ^^

IGN:Lordtp

A skill map does not determine the order in which you use your skills. (:

lordtp
09-25-2015, 02:54 AM
A skill map does not determine the order in which you use your skills. (:

I know but still wanted to see it.

IGN:Lordtp

Etarbitrev
10-01-2015, 03:29 PM
My skill layout (according to others) is quite unorthodox,
I can't screenshot anymore so I'll have to explain it to you.

begin with the bottom right corner and going up. Then back down to the bottom & up again. And so on.

frostbite, lightening, firestorm, heal.
nothing, nothing, drain, nothing

I was a toymage which soully relied on mana draining, then killing during regen phase. I would highly recommend utilising frost lightening drain fire, this is the best combo as it incorporates the freeze debuff, light debuff & the momentary frost-fire debuff which makes the drain do insane damage for that level. Make sure however they use heal before you start the combo otherwise they'll ruin it.

Madfisho
10-01-2015, 06:53 PM
Hey beezle


Sent From My Apple SmartWatch Using Tapatalk! :D

Hurikazz
10-07-2015, 10:32 AM
wait....
If i charge ur gonna Heal, but i wont use Redemption, waiting for next Charge and Combo U (ur Heal is still on Cooldown)
:)

Burningdex
10-28-2015, 03:42 AM
loooooooool
142406

Ignitedmage
11-05-2015, 11:26 AM
Oh my gosh its you... What does Wp'd. Means? .-.

Whipped if you lost but Well Played if he lost..

Such partiality :'(

Bats
01-15-2016, 07:20 AM
Original, but always a good build.

Etarbitrev
01-29-2016, 03:56 PM
Lol ignited. You forgot whooped if I really rekt em XD

Burningdex
01-29-2016, 06:19 PM
this is still going...

u also have 3k more views den my bird guide, if i count only the deleted one, gj m8

Etarbitrev
01-30-2016, 12:32 PM
Haha cheers dude. Helping ppl from beyond the grave! :banana:

Burningdex
01-30-2016, 06:02 PM
Haha cheers dude. Helping ppl from beyond the grave! :banana:

aha, made me laugh. u got steam?

Yohan Blank
01-31-2016, 01:43 AM
I never want to do lvl 15 mage lol i always get rushed by bears with hs and rhinos with 6 temps

Etarbitrev
01-31-2016, 11:47 AM
That's why you make a level20 mage pally. With 6661 and watch them leave gsme s because you don't die.

And my steam is pedroscupcake. Rarely use it tho ;P if you play LoL you could add me? I play that more frequently and will be getting a new PC soon.

Etarbitrev
02-01-2016, 10:14 AM
Holding out for the 10k views. :banana:
Sticky plox

Beezlewtf
02-01-2016, 10:39 AM
Holding out for the 10k views. :banana:
Sticky plox

This guide helped me a ton! Thanks! [emoji1360]


Sent from my White Mocha Frappuccino.






Pocket Legends: Eggsy Kik: EggsyPL

Burningdex
02-02-2016, 12:19 AM
ill add you when i get back from work, and my bird guide, counting deleteed is @ 11k, top that ;)

Etarbitrev
02-02-2016, 03:09 AM
Give it a few more months buddy :P :banana:

Burningdex
02-02-2016, 03:56 AM
Give it a few more months buddy :P :banana:

hahaha 30 bird>15 mage (even though tbh, 15 mage would probably do more dmg)

Etarbitrev
02-02-2016, 03:58 AM
Lol 12 chars!

Burningdex
02-02-2016, 04:24 AM
Lol 12 chars!

its eleven isnt it?

derail4days

Etarbitrev
02-02-2016, 10:21 AM
12 cus ihaxor k?

Yohan Blank
02-03-2016, 10:06 AM
That's why you make a level20 mage pally. With 6661 and watch them leave gsme s because you don't die.

And my steam is pedroscupcake. Rarely use it tho ;P if you play LoL you could add me? I play that more frequently and will be getting a new PC soon.
No i never made a single pally i go for 23 mage then fbow and nuke build

Etarbitrev
02-11-2016, 05:49 PM
I metaphorically grew up w/o fbow, and from my POV I still feel pally is better

Burningdex
02-12-2016, 12:29 AM
str mage is better in every aspect at 23, if you can play it.

Etarbitrev
03-03-2016, 06:50 PM
Burn, 11k, "beat that"? Hmm, it seems I'm well on my way to doing so :):):):):)

Burningdex
03-04-2016, 11:57 PM
Burn, 11k, "beat that"? Hmm, it seems I'm well on my way to doing so :):):):):)

plus the 6k from deleted one or nah ;), gj man

Etarbitrev
03-05-2016, 11:10 AM
Hehe my old 15mage guide has 5.6k :smiley_simmons:

Burningdex
03-11-2016, 04:35 AM
204 views infront now, rip, grats man, well deserved ^____^

shameless self promotion
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jojobear34
03-20-2016, 12:42 PM
great guide

Etarbitrev
05-19-2016, 05:09 AM
bumping cus I'm alpha

Ssneakykills
05-19-2016, 03:02 PM
bumping cus I'm alpha

At least bump a good thread please

Iheybeautiful
05-20-2016, 08:21 AM
At least bump a good thread please
lololololol

Etarbitrev
05-24-2016, 10:29 AM
dayum.... rip

zaorago
05-24-2016, 01:52 PM
dayum.... rip

Stop bumping thread, thirsty.

Etarbitrev
05-25-2016, 12:33 PM
riperoni pizza

Etarbitrev
08-06-2016, 07:44 AM
bump cus whos gonna stop?

(cue: enter mod)

Burningdex
08-07-2016, 03:23 AM
shameless bump on dead forum //

Etarbitrev
08-27-2016, 10:35 AM
Yeah... I do that a lot. & this genuinely was a reply to a question i "forgot" to answer ;) or was it

idfwy
09-05-2016, 03:28 PM
Awesome guide, would you happen to know anything about 13 Mage? Besides the obvious, "Level to 15"

Etarbitrev
09-06-2016, 10:56 AM
LOL well said.
& the last time I played 13 there were 2 builds nuke & kite/mana drain. Seeing as tho nuking doesnt work at this level anymore w/o founders (mage) then I can only assume the builds (2 of them) look something like...
6 light 1 fire 4 heal 1 frost (this one is only for people confident with their kiting ability with 1 fire cus its tough work with no drain and only 4 heal. Not to mention less armor.
the other one is anti bear, this consists of 3 frost 1 heal 5 fire 1 light 2 drain. Basically if you freeze a bear and they have 4 stomp or less they wont have a 100% chance of breaking the freeze and 3 frost is long enough so that you can fire frost then when ur fire resets theyre still frozen so you can combo them. Id advise using smth like a chunker with this build cus otherwise it can be a bit tedious.