why pvp is no fun

[thugimmortal]

I have just tried the pvp for the first time today and i dont think its fun at all. what fun is entering the fight only to die in about two seconds. bears totally suck at pvp even though i was in full hate gear i was killed by a bird not even in wraith.
does armour not count here ?
So i switch to my dexchantress with full shadow and death and still died within two seconds. i know that alot of you are gonna call me a noob and that its because im rubbish.
but i think it would be more enjoyable if health went down abit slower than it is now its like instant death at the moment. wheres the fun in that

[Zerious]

Try lvl 20 twinking. I've never gotten to lvl 50 because I'm too busy pvping XD it's THAT fun

I hear lvl 30 and 35 twinks are popular too

[BlasterBird]

The problem with a level 50 pvp build is that you have to have perfect skills and fast fingers, or you die.

Not sure about the bears at 50, but for 20 bears can hold their own and beat most.

No way should there be a damage reduction or health increase for pvp, there is just a small learning curve to it.

[noobmigo]

@Blaster....ditto

[KingFu]

Well, if you don't have the right gear or build for pvp, you're not gonna do well. Bears at 50 are rally hard to play well with, as well as dextresses, their insane nukes, but require being fast and a good combo. Pvp is fun, if you know how to play it, and are good at it. Until then, I'd really practice twinking to get comfortable with pvp first, since twinking is a lot simpler IMO.

[SoulMaster]

Agree on all these posts. Bear dont really own at lvl 50. But lvl 20 pvp bear pwns thougj

[SoulMaster]

Though. Sorry for double posting

[Thedexarcher]

bears in pvp suck, make an archer account, they rule like hell!!!

[BlasterBird]

Archers are not very good at 20 unless you have a hammer or talon/shield build. Most times bears will still kill you.


Right now it kinda goes like this

bears are better than birds and some mages, birds are better than most mages, and mages are better than some bears. If you have a pounder, birds are fairly easy. If you don't, it takes a lot of strategy to take down some bears.

[Residentevil]

Ok all of you saying bears dont own at 50 have never seen a good bear, i destroy with mine or have my kills stolen by a bird/mage. Regardless of this bears can be very good at 50, just need to know how to use them.

[BlasterBird]

If you're skilled enough, any build is easy. Just harder to play imo. ;)

[bladesword]

Because some mynas gens run and scream ****

[Zerious]

Because some mynas gens run and scream ****

did someone get hurt? :3

[giayuan]

Ive quit lvl50 pvping ages ago, its just too hard! too many pros. though lvl10 and lvl19 twinking imma pwnage :D though i probably still die too the pros...

[asommers]

PvP damage is reduced by 10 percent in today's patch (53980).

-ALS

[Zeus]

PvP damage is reduced by 10 percent in today's patch (53980).

-ALS
Ya I was really surprised when I couldn't kill anybody with the combo I use. (Normally one comboes them). I guess 10 percent less damage is a lot more then I expected it would be.

[asommers]

Play it and give me feedback. I can always tweak it the other way if 10 percent is too much.

-ALS

[Residentevil]

Play it and give me feedback. I can always tweak it the other way if 10 percent is too much.

-ALS

I think less 10% would be better, maybe around 5-6%

[cuard]

well archers are done.

[Imperial-legend]

who says lvl50 bear is useless? Fabio as a bear can pwn anyone if he doesnt mess things up, also hes a great tank in FFA, and yup archers r done...

[Residentevil]

who says lvl50 bear is useless? Fabio as a bear can pwn anyone if he doesnt mess things up, also hes a great tank in FFA, and yup archers r done...

i can beat fabio just as easily as he beats me.

[Hekpoc]

I agree with res 5-6% nerf.

[jjjjaaaakkkke]

Archers are done.. WOW THIS IS BS.

[Zeus]

Play it and give me feedback. I can always tweak it the other way if 10 percent is too much.

-ALS

Asommers. Archers already barely have any crit compared to the other classes, along with weak armor and their only defensive buff (dodge) getting nerfed... Now when you reduce the damage in pvp... It greatly effects them the most, and suddenly the tides have turned, and archers have trouble even killing an int mage. It was fine how it was before... Int mages could survive archers if they timed it right, which is what int is about. Archers is about spamming skills, and bears are about strategy in pvp. It's what kept it balanced. This I believe unbalanced it too much.

[Ladylove]

Archers are done.. WOW THIS IS BS.

Not really. They didn't have to try

[jjjjaaaakkkke]

I totally agree with you.. It's unbalanced for sure.

[Hekpoc]

i havent tried 50 pvp but 35 seem to be doing ok correct me if im wrong

[Zeus]

Not really. They didn't have to try

You never liked archers :). BIASE!!!!! :).

[Ladylove]

You never liked archers :). BIASE!!!!! :).

Lolllll. I have a str bird... and I'm making a dex bird for 35. Just needs leveling.. and gear... And it's not trying when an archer can just pop me on the ground with two skills. And I know I don't such THAT much. And yes, 35 is balanced

[Residentevil]

archers were a bit overpowered, not a lot but enough that they were able to work less than most people and get the same results.

[Rebel]

Level 20 pvp seems to be fine. I just played a couple of games and 1v1's with my bear. I don't see what the big deal is with the archer complaints. It's every class that the damage was lowered in. Not just archers. Basically, it is the same thing except longer. At least that's my thoughts on the issue.

Then again, longer fights means more skills used. So it basically comes down to skill cooldowns doesn't it? I also only have the perspective of a level 20 in pvp. So I may not have thought this through very well.

[jjjjaaaakkkke]

It's lvl 50 PvP that's unbalanced.

[Rebel]

It's lvl 50 PvP that's unbalanced.

Oh, I see.

[Residentevil]

It's lvl 50 PvP that's unbalanced.
its not much different balance wise from before. if they changed it to around 5% less than before not the current 10% it would be about perfect. if you disagree then you must be used to being a bird and destroying entire teams nearly alone

[jjjjaaaakkkke]

its not much different balance wise from before. if they changed it to around 5% less than before not the current 10% it would be about perfect. if you disagree then you must be used to being a bird and destroying entire teams nearly alone

Yup, I'm a bird. But, think about it like this.. An experienced bird probably won't be able to take down the average pure int. If your going to say that I'm crying about how pure int. can't kill pure int. / dexchantresses your wrong. If your a good mage you can take on a birds combo.

[Residentevil]

Yup, I'm a bird. But, think about it like this.. An experienced bird probably won't be able to take down the average pure int. If your going to say that I'm crying about how pure int. can't kill pure int. / dexchantresses your wrong. If your a good mage you can take on a birds combo.

yes but a bird can kill pure int mage then keep going fine, (remaining hp ignored, theyre still able to kill something before being killed again) unlike a pure int mage which is going to have used and lost through attack more than half to all mana and be unable to resist another attack unless lucky.

[jjjjaaaakkkke]

I'm talking about a 1v1 fight. Not a 5v5 or when your getting piled or teamed. Mage vs. dex in a fair 1v1 fight. It's obvious who will win..

[Residentevil]

I'm talking about a 1v1 fight. Not a 5v5 or when your getting piled or teamed. Mage vs. dex in a fair 1v1 fight. It's obvious who will win..

timing is a huge part of these fights, time a heal wrong and the mage is dead. but this same thing could be said about a paladin fighting a bird before, without proper timing that bird is taking out even the best paladin build

[skimmey]

Dex vs int is all about speed and timing and a right combo no 4 shot combo possible vs good mages at least u need crit luck for that hehe

[jjjjaaaakkkke]

You NEED crit luck.

[Wbto-Angeluscustos]

i got two twinks woot!!!

im just wandeirng what is good ability builds for lvl 35 bear twink and lvl 35 mage twink?