50's booting lower levels

[davidis57]

Remember 50's you were once 30-49. Most want to lvl. Booting 45-49 especially. I understand those who are going there at really low are sucking xp and items. Really low levels bother me too. I am 49 and have not got past the 3rd lvl of ao3. Groups always leave I end up dying not to mention a few times getting booted by 50's. There are just not enough groups xping. Most are there to get the best items. I could care less about items. I got 2 good bows which are not the best but are pretty good. One is lvl 50 I will use it then. I dont care about pvp I got my fill playing L2 for years. I say all this so you can understand that not everyone who plays here is young, selfish, and lame. Make the community better or people will play somewhere else. If that happens it will be boring in game. Btw - I am 60 years old and been playing games since Atari days and a former Game Admin for L2.

[BlasterBird]

First, welcome to the forums!

And then, there are always people like that in game, just can't change their minds or influence them in any way. I personally wouldn't boot for anything unless they were very low level, like 30-40 in ao3, or if they weren't helping at all.

Just gotta live with it unfortuanately, but your close enough to 50. After 50 nobody will boot you.

[recklessfa]

Welcome!
Yes it's sad and Lots of us been there.
Not so long ago you would get booted because you didn't have the sparking set that, supposedly, would give the team an advantage, although you might just already be a very valid asset. I ended up asking 'can we clear please every time' or creating my own games to reach 50, making a few friends in the process.
I remember it took me three days to get help to kill the keeper. (he was mean back then). (bakam: thank you:)
Devs are changing the boot process, let's hope they'll find a way to limit lvl49 been booted for no good reason, but I'm not sure it is possible.
Add syvy, I can give you a hand
soon enough you'll be the one helping out, so forget/ignore those who boot you now and might add u as a friend in a day or so;)
Good luck

[recklessfa]

Woups, I write to slowly. BlasterBird said it all ;)


after 50 nobody will boot you.

Just not sure about that... but let's pretend ;)

[BlasterBird]

Well, I would hope that nobody boots at 50.

[krowssin]

If you need someone to play with...add: kidslice

[Palyna]

hmm ya I can understand, people used to call me noob 49! and ask me to leave. So angry and I still remember the nick of one nasty person! I never boot low level and I never boot anyone. if really needed, I will tell nicely. Now I always create my own game at AO3 Keeper map and solo till anyone join me. or join friends' game.

[thugimmortal]

Wow a 60 year old playing pl.

man thats made my day ive had people call me old lol and im 30.

Anyway welcome if you need a hand in ao3 give me a shout

respect to the elders.

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k628/thugimmortal/yoda_biography_3.jpg

[RedRyder]

Yea thug always levels people. Also feel free to add my characters in my sig and I'll help you unlock all the levels of ao3

[drewcapu]

Sometimes, I think the level cap in this game should be based on a player's age

;)

[BlasterBird]

Sometimes, I think the level cap in this game should be based on a player's age

;)

Id be just reaching twinking level then :(

[chrononh]

Some people boot just because they can. I joined a Jolly Old Father Frost "game" one time to turn in a winter quest, and I was booted with the reason being "lol." I don't mind leaving if they ask me to. But I put everyone who's ever booted me rudely from their games on ignore.

David, add me (Chrononh for Mage, Chronnonh for bear) and I'd be happy to help go through the rest of AO3 with you. :)

[Vaelma]

Lol Chronoh I got booted when I joined a VL group last night with the message "kick three."

I have no idea what that means cept maybe they were going for a new record of booting lol. And yup now they on ignore.

David feel free to add me also. I remember a couple of great level 50's who helped me clear all those dungeons before I turned 50. I will alway be grateful to them. And I believe in paying it forward.

Without giving up my age, I too began playing with Atari. I have played or tried every mmorpg ever distributed in the U.S. Including L2. There are a lot of us old folks playing this game. I think we're just a bit quieter, and we don't talk about our poopy holes.

Lol, yes that did happen in a group....each calling the other poopy holes....laughed my butt off.

[Lesrider]

Eh I'm 28 and had an Atari growing up -- I don't think you have to be that old to have played one.

[KingFu]

First, welcome to the forums!

And then, there are always people like that in game, just can't change their minds or influence them in any way. I personally wouldn't boot for anything unless they were very low level, like 30-40 in ao3, or if they weren't helping at all.

Just gotta live with it unfortuanately, but your close enough to 50. After 50 nobody will boot you.

I do not agree with that last part.

There are multiple reasons

1) Bad gear
2) Lazy
3) Bad ratio
4) Party is full
5) They just wanna boot for fun

There are many more reasons as to why they'd boot him, but I do see 50s booted a lot.





First, welcome to the community:)

We see a few posts like this, asking for people not the boot them, but most of the time the problem isn't the people on the forums. You're kinda close to 50 (depending where you are at xp wise) Just hang in there, and join quick play games! If you can, you could try soloing ao3:2, crush the keeper, giving you nice xp and kills, along with some gold $.$

People on here may be willing to help you unlock, I don't play much anymore, but if I'm on, and I notice my pending friends, I'll add you on it, its pretty long right now but if you leave your ign I'll try and make note of it:p

[GongKilluminati]

I don't like booting either, but if someone is lvl40 and lower and goes to ao3? That's pushing it, unless you got a friend who is leveling you.
I started going to ao1 at lvl39, ao2 at 45, and ao3 at 47. Only time when i get booted in ao3 was when i went to VL as lvl 48. To beat VL efficiently you need a full team of lvl50, sometimes i see lvl 49s get booted from VL, and i kinda feel bad for them, but there is a difference from lvl 50 to 49 so they needed to be booted for a fast run.

[Norbert]

Add me on any of the chars in my sig. I enjoy playing through maps and often 40s players are more enjoyable than many of the 50s.

I started playing on Pong, you kids with your newfangled Atari!

Yeah, as a 50 I've been booted too, once also with LOL, other times with something like 'need bear'. Who knows, try not to take it personally, it's them that has the issues.

[Vaelma]

Eh I'm 28 and had an Atari growing up -- I don't think you have to be that old to have played one.

Heh, I think we're both referring to when the first Atari 2600 came out almost 30 years ago. You would have been a twinkle in your daddy's eye. :)

I just gave my son an Atari for Christmas this year. Will always be my favorite console.

[mycroftxxx]

I'll tell you why I boot non-50s. Most of the time, the levelers will just leave when we get to a boss. This totally sucks for me, because as a level 50 I have no really desire to just kill the minions; the main incentive to do the map is to kill the boss (to improve skills and get prizes).

I feel this is a social problem the designers need to solve better. (I posted a longer analysis in another thread.)

[Vaelma]

Add me on any of the chars in my sig. I enjoy playing through maps and often 40s players are more enjoyable than many of the 50s.

I started playing on Pong, you kids with your newfangled Atari!

Yeah, as a 50 I've been booted too, once also with LOL, other times with something like 'need bear'. Who knows, try not to take it personally, it's them that has the issues.

Ha! I remember my husband and I having parties at our house and everyone always ended up crowded around our IBM watching each other play Pong! No multi-player, co-op or even mice then! How funny now.

Omg my ageism is showing. :). My apologies. :)

[chrononh]

I'll tell you why I boot non-50s. Most of the time, the levelers will just leave when we get to a boss. This totally sucks for me, because as a level 50 I have no really desire to just kill the minions; the main incentive to do the map is to kill the boss (to improve skills and get prizes).

I feel this is a social problem the designers need to solve better. (I posted a longer analysis in another thread.)

Yeah, that was a frustration on my part, too (i.e. not finishing maps), especially in Keeper and, more recently, Captive. Any more, I ask when I step in the map if it's an xp run, quest, or boss kill. I think the host should inform the players what the plans are. Some hosts also require pots (for non VL runs) and those who don't want to can find another game. Maybe when they update the hosting to include level requirements and notes like "xp run" or "pots required" that booting won't be such a big problem anymore.

Re Atari, I think my cousins had one. My first memory of video games was Super Mario on the Nintendo, which I never got to play because the bigger kids always "booted" the smaller kids off the console. Guess some things never change. :)

[Duke]

I'm leveling an alt pure mage, with the game plan of finishing all of the quests in order (within practicality) and moving on to the next zone when I'm done with all quests. The only time I've had to stop to "grind" was to pick up a couple of levels to get to 30 for Frozen Nightmares.

It's really annoying getting booted by 50s from an unlocked level 30 (elite, but 30 nonetheless) map, when I'm just as capable as a level 50 mage in buffing, healing, and reviving. I'm not a leech, I'm actively contributing, and despite being there primarily for the quests, I finish levels (and have gotten a nice handful of pinks -- the only non-quest pinks this character has gotten so far!), but I regularly get booted by 50s simply for being "low level".

[mycroftxxx]

If you actually know how to play, you're probably more useful in FN than many of the 50s. I've seen entire teams of 50s get wiped in there… utterly ludicrous. No, having all shadow gear doesn't mean it's safe to walk into a room full of yeti and wake them all up. Duh. By contrast, I've done if a few times with just one other player and it's been fairly fast. (It's hard for me to solo, because kiting doesn't work well on my PoS phone—Nexus One not recommended for gaming. I've done it, but it takes a long time.)

[Snakespeare]

Duke, there's not much you can do about that. But map 5 of Lost Expedition, over and over, will get you some more pinks. Every Ice Demon has a chance to drop one, and one day I actually got four pinks in one run.

That is an honorable way to level ("game plan of finishing all of the quests in order (within practicality) and moving on to the next zone when I'm done with all quests"), but it isn't practical. The elite quests can wait, in my opinion, until after Swamps, or even until after level cap.

[davidis57]

Drew, would that make most of them lvl 10?...lol

[Lesrider]

Duke, there's not much you can do about that. But map 5 of Lost Expedition, over and over, will get you some more pinks. Every Ice Demon has a chance to drop one, and one day I actually got four pinks in one run.

That is an honorable way to level ("game plan of finishing all of the quests in order (within practicality) and moving on to the next zone when I'm done with all quests"), but it isn't practical. The elite quests can wait, in my opinion, until after Swamps, or even until after level cap.

I swore I wouldn't respond to you anymore, Snake, but I can't help it. You're such a hypocrite!!! In one post you say people should only be allowed to farm an area that's appropriate for their level, preventing lvl 50s from farming lower-level areas. Then in another post you recommend someone wait for the level cap before they do a lvl 30 campaign!

Make up your da** mind!!!!

That's all, I'm going back to not repsonding. I just felt someone needed to respond to this BS.

[davidis57]

Thanks for all the replies I am Timbabird in game.

[davidis57]

I love to finish a map. I figure whatever the group is there for xping covers it all. Once you get to 50 you can either farm it or help others. Only time I leave is when my phone is dying.

[Hekpoc]

I do not agree with that last part.

There are multiple reasons

1) Bad gear
2) Lazy
3) Bad ratio
4) Party is full
5) They just wanna boot for fun

There are many more reasons as to why they'd boot him, but I do see 50s booted a lot.





First, welcome to the community:)

We see a few posts like this, asking for people not the boot them, but most of the time the problem isn't the people on the forums. You're kinda close to 50 (depending where you are at xp wise) Just hang in there, and join quick play games! If you can, you could try soloing ao3:2, crush the keeper, giving you nice xp and kills, along with some gold $.$

People on here may be willing to help you unlock, I don't play much anymore, but if I'm on, and I notice my pending friends, I'll add you on it, its pretty long right now but if you leave your ign I'll try and make note of it:p

Lalalala I LOOOOOOOVE the boot button. Ill admit it. Why? Mystical has answered all of it.

PS This has been said before but here we go again..... there is a HUUUGE difference between 49 and 50. Dont believe me? All you 49's I will gladly PVP you and will pay you 200k gold if you win a 10 round match. No entry fee required. Oh and Elite gear vs regular pink once again huge difference.

[Fyrce]

I don't mind most booting. People have their reasons and I can start my own game or join friends. So...

A couple thoughts on finishing up Ao3, especially some of the more popular levels, like Ao3:2 or Ao3:3: You can always join a 1/2 done, mostly empty game to finish it. Sometimes the boss is gone, sometimes just most of the mobs. You then invite your friends in and then learn the area. You should be able to do it and finish all levels Ao3 with or without a level 50's help. If the boss is gone, the rest of the level should be easy, even for a non-level 50. I would bet that you'll find lots of helpers though. Most people are nice.

Maybe what annoys me is the leveling players who think they need level 50s to help them... learn that you DO NOT. You and your friends are perfectly capable of clearing Ao3. That's how everyone used to do it, in a much harder Ao3.

[Axey]

WOAH THERE, i LOVE helping lower levels, ):

[Duke]

Duke, there's not much you can do about that. But map 5 of Lost Expedition, over and over, will get you some more pinks. Every Ice Demon has a chance to drop one, and one day I actually got four pinks in one run.

That is an honorable way to level ("game plan of finishing all of the quests in order (within practicality) and moving on to the next zone when I'm done with all quests"), but it isn't practical. The elite quests can wait, in my opinion, until after Swamps, or even until after level cap.

It ain't about "practical", I'm actually on a mission to try and do all of the quests in order and see what it means for character development and leveling. This is an alt created for this specific pupose - my main pure 'chantress is level 48.

[JackDonkey]

Lol booting is fair. If you join their game and they want to be solo or with certain people. Or maybe you are going ahead they have every right to boot you.

PRO TIP:
What I normally do is once I join ask if I can stay if it's a no they'll just boot, but if you do ask you have a way better chance of staying in ;)

[mycroftxxx]

If you want to be solo, you should set a password so nobody else can join.

[Westpsy]

Lalalala I LOOOOOOOVE the boot button. Ill admit it. Why? Mystical has answered all of it.

PS This has been said before but here we go again..... there is a HUUUGE difference between 49 and 50. Dont believe me? All you 49's I will gladly PVP you and will pay you 200k gold if you win a 10 round match. No entry fee required. Oh and Elite gear vs regular pink once again huge difference.

Not to say your point isn't valid on some grounds, but the logic in posing the difference between a 49/50 in pvp vs pve isn't sound. While in pvp, the slightest difference in stats and skills(I use this term loosely to mean pushing buttons in the right order the fastest over varying connection speeds) makes the difference between a death and a kill, the same does not apply in pve. Enemies are not cognitive and unable to play in a intelligent and efficient manner. So, with the main variable in pve being party dynamics and cohesion(not the best gear), a party of 49s with a full understanding of dynamics and cohesion is> than a party of 50s (with best equip). While this point can be discussed and criticized more with other variables, I'll leave it at this because I need to study for exams:)

[davidis57]

No matter what dungeon your doing the principal is the same nothing makes the game more fun and lvling easier than a good party of players who understand their char and its role. Not staying together or leaving when you level or finish your quest is a sure sign of selfish play. I have yet to get through lvl 3 of ao3. I believe the reason for this is people want bosses or fast lvling and they drop when they accomplish theit goal. The lvl is difficult enough without all the bs. I use lots of pots and still die at least 3 times and than look around and just me there. Its daytime now in the philippines while others are sleeping. So my friend options are limited. Like I said before I do not care about pvp and will not be taking part.

[mycroftxxx]

See what I said about this here:
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?16765-Booting&p=179643&viewfull=1#post179643