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Titanfall
09-14-2014, 06:42 AM
THIS POST HAS BEEN CLEANED UP. AFTER SOME THOUGHT I HAVE COME UP WITH A FINAL IDEA.

The idea of the lottery system is to help Arlors economy by creating a gold sink. To enter you simply buy a ticket from the lottery NPC by going to a town. The lottery lasts 24 hours and the ticket price depends on what type of lottery it is (Read below).

THE FINAL IDEA:

TO ENTER THE LOTTERY:
Go to any town. Find the lottery NPC (Name hasn't been decided)
Purchase a ticket from him. And wait to see if you've won after 24 hours. If you've won you'll be notified on your alerts and you can go claim your prize from him.

NORMAL LOTTERY SYSTEM:
This is where you pay 5k to enter and the prize is 100k. This lottery happens once a day and lasts 24 hours so everyone can enter. You also win the lottery exlcusive vanity which is tradable.

SUPER JACKPOT WEEKEND:
This is a special weekend event. (Doesn't happen every weekend)
For every person that enters the jackpot is increased by 2.5k.
Ticket price stays the same.


MYTHIC LOTTERY:
This happens once a month. Costs 50k to enter so people don't abuse it by making loads of accounts. You have a chance to win ANY MYTHIC EGG. You also win the vanity. No gold is included in the payout so its a PURE gold sink.

ARCANE LOTTERY:
This also happens once every month. It costs 100k to enter. You have a chance to win ANY ARCANE EGG. As this happens 12 times a year, And there are 6 arcane eggs. Each month has a SPECIFIC egg that will be up for grabs and it will go in the order in which they released. Etc. First month hammerjaw then glacian then samael.
This is so that the same egg isn't given away twice (Which can happen if its a random egg). You also win the exclusive lottery vanity. This is also a PURE gold sink.

kinzmet
09-14-2014, 06:53 AM
+1, its better to gamble with golds than plats (lockeds).

obee
09-14-2014, 08:02 AM
People can exploit this by making a ton of accounts

Appeltjes
09-14-2014, 08:05 AM
People can exploit this by making a ton of accounts

How? More chances also will cost the player more gold.

Titanfall
09-14-2014, 08:13 AM
People can exploit this by making a ton of accounts

Well either way they still have to pay gold.
Make multiple lotteries run at the same time so they cant enter in a specific one.

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Maketaca
09-14-2014, 08:22 AM
People can exploit this by making a ton of accounts

It doesnt matter, 600k gold or more still goes out of the economy.

basketholic209
09-14-2014, 08:37 AM
People can exploit this by making a ton of accounts
Lol, please explain.

aarrgggggg
09-14-2014, 08:44 AM
i like this idea however i do think that if this were implemented Jackpots should be higher than 100k
If you dont make the grand prize worth winning why play at all
and lets face it 100k doesnt go very far in this game.

In order to make people buy the tickets i would think the prize needs to be 500k or higher but also with a stipulation that X amount of players need to purchase a ticket in order for the drawing to take place.
In the case that not enough players entered the lottery than everyone would simply cash in their original voucher for the original purchase price.

Also another idea as far as lottery is concerned is maybe make a once a week or bi-weekly drawing with an arcane egg or another highly sought after item as the prize instead of gold.
Perhaps a new exclusive item that can ONLY be won by winning said lottery.

Volt
09-14-2014, 08:50 AM
i like this idea however i do think that if this were implemented Jackpots should be higher than 100k
If you dont make the grand prize worth winning why play at all
and lets face it 100k doesnt go very far in this game.

In order to make people buy the tickets i would think the prize needs to be 500k or higher but also with a stipulation that X amount of players need to purchase a ticket in order for the drawing to take place.
In the case that not enough players entered the lottery than everyone would simply cash in their original voucher for the original purchase price.

Also another idea as far as lottery is concerned is maybe make a once a week or bi-weekly drawing with an arcane egg or another highly sought after item as the prize instead of gold.
Perhaps a new exclusive item that can ONLY be won by winning said lottery.

It's only 5k to play. It's worth finding the npc and giving the gold in 1 minute for a chance of 100k

aarrgggggg
09-14-2014, 09:08 AM
It's only 5k to play. It's worth finding the npc and giving the gold in 1 minute for a chance of 100k
I mean i do agree with you, but i am thinking on a grander scale.....think of how many people would play. ALOT
The higher the prize's value the more people that would play thats all im saying.

Maybe have 3 lotterys, a daily lottery grand prize being say 500k for the winner, a weekly with the grand prize being idk 2million perhaps.

and lastly maybe a bi-weekly or monthly lottery giving a grand prize of an exclusive item or pet.

Really im just thinking aloud

The concept is good, The possibilities are endless, Will sts implement this?

I highly doubt it, it has been suggested many times. Could be a great thing if it were implemented because it would give the average joe non plat user a chance at "striking it rich"

Hope is a powerful thing, give people hope in getting those exclusive items they will be more likely to stay :)

Visiting
09-14-2014, 09:17 AM
What if the gold amount was.calculated by the game, say 1 person enters it gives 2.5k (lol), say 10k people enter (5mil of gold) the prize is 750k gold? Or somesuch like that.

Titanfall
09-14-2014, 09:27 AM
I mean i do agree with you, but i am thinking on a grander scale.....think of how many people would play. ALOT
The higher the prize's value the more people that would play thats all im saying.

Maybe have 3 lotterys, a daily lottery grand prize being say 500k for the winner, a weekly with the grand prize being idk 2million perhaps.

and lastly maybe a bi-weekly or monthly lottery giving a grand prize of an exclusive item or pet.

Really im just thinking aloud

The concept is good, The possibilities are endless, Will sts implement this?

I highly doubt it, it has been suggested many times. Could be a great thing if it were implemented because it would give the average joe non plat user a chance at "striking it rich"

Hope is a powerful thing, give people hope in getting those exclusive items they will be more likely to stay :)

Appreciated the feedback arg, But I dont think its a good idea to give away arcanes. Maybe increase the jackpot to about 200k, And add in a bonus prize such as a lottery exclusive vanity.

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Ebezaanec
09-14-2014, 10:30 AM
Question, would the ticket be located in stable or will it be in your inventory?

The idea has been suggested multiple times, but I don't think there was ever any developer input. Just goes to show that there must be a money-making component in it for the company.

Maybe have the Lottery NPC randomly spawn in PvE maps and let plat-spenders have an option of buying the ticket with plat directly from the NPC in a town.

Sdbigdaddy
09-14-2014, 12:01 PM
I like it. How about we expand this and make a "casino hall". You can play blackjack, slots, poker..lol. Or just at the home page give people a choice between playing this game or a slot game.

Jonnymaynard
09-14-2014, 01:07 PM
Idea is nice but it dont fix our problem. AL's economy is messed up because of super rich merchers/plat farmers that make too high prices. They dont mind a loss of 5k ...

Dex Scene
09-14-2014, 01:52 PM
Awesome idea...
I will do +1 for any gold sink idea and this is by far best gold sink idea.
It would be fun to buy some and try luck.
STG where are you? Read this

Titanfall
09-14-2014, 05:10 PM
Idea is nice but it dont fix our problem. AL's economy is messed up because of super rich merchers/plat farmers that make too high prices. They dont mind a loss of 5k ...

That 5k stacks.

Reunegade
09-14-2014, 05:46 PM
That 5k stacks.
And why would you want to pay more than 100k, which is close to nothing for the richest people in the game if that's the payout?

Titanfall
09-14-2014, 05:49 PM
And why would you want to pay more than 100k, which is close to nothing for the richest people in the game if that's the payout?
Why would rich people even play apart from having the chance to win the exclusive vanity?
The idea of this is to create a gold sink. That 5k everyone will spend will stack and help the economy.
Theres a lot of people who'd enter to win 100k with just 5k. If that's not enough increase the payout or decrease the ticket cost.

- Samdegreat
09-15-2014, 03:28 AM
i like this idea however i do think that if this were implemented Jackpots should be higher than 100k
If you dont make the grand prize worth winning why play at all
and lets face it 100k doesnt go very far in this game.

In order to make people buy the tickets i would think the prize needs to be 500k or higher but also with a stipulation that X amount of players need to purchase a ticket in order for the drawing to take place.
In the case that not enough players entered the lottery than everyone would simply cash in their original voucher for the original purchase price.

Also another idea as far as lottery is concerned is maybe make a once a week or bi-weekly drawing with an arcane egg or another highly sought after item as the prize instead of gold.
Perhaps a new exclusive item that can ONLY be won by winning said lottery.

Yeh I agree for us 100k doesn't go far but think about when we first started the game, 10k went far for me lol
100k to a new player is the equivalent to a mill for us...

This will bring a slight element of fun into the game as let's be honest it's dieing out and give new players a chance to get gold although losing 5k would kill them lol :)

Goodhabbit
09-15-2014, 03:54 AM
Nice Idea! +1

I think you can redeem your prize in another npc and he/she will give you a vanity that only winners of the lottery can get and it should be non- tradable. The npc should be located in all towns so it will not be hard to find for newbies. This should be drawn everyday.

For me 100k is enough, even though the price is not that high....., let say im a newbie then i won the lottery and I am able to save at least 60k and I bought lepre and start hunting...... It would be a great help for a newbie..Even for us, 100k is not that easy to get, an instant 100k is really good.

Maybe we should also have this lottery for platiniums maybe 30k for a chance of 30 platiniums because most player don't have any idea about the forum weekly raffle for 30 platiniums why not put it in the game eh? (This is weekly)

matanofx
09-15-2014, 03:58 AM
STS can take this idea and do wonderful things with it, many great suggestions and im sure the crew wants a gold sink too

The gold-sink vanity is nice and i hope they make new types of it and make the one we have now discontinued, but the lottery ticket thing is something even i would do with my extra gold, and im very cheap.

Idly
09-15-2014, 05:28 AM
I like the idea but not so much the gold prize as it kind of removes the gold sink aspect ( even though it does take out a lot of gold) maybe like some suggested a unique vanity or a new luck pendant say 25% reroll chance. Id increase the buy-in to 10-20k and make it so you can purchase upto 100 tickets, that would really take the gold from the uber rich :)

Prahasit Prahi
09-15-2014, 05:30 AM
One of the finest idea ever seen by me in this forums.

Heads up!

Bigboyblue
09-15-2014, 06:28 AM
This lottery could be a great idea. Maybe make the payout half of the amount that is spent playing it. So 1000 characters buy a ticket at 5k a piece. That is a total investment of 5mil. That draw pays out 2.5mil to the winner. I think a weekly draw would be more than enough. This acts as a gold sink and I think it would be greatly affective. I know I would play every week.

I also like the idea of a monthly draw for an arcane item. These tickets need to cost atleast 50k. This is a 100% gold sink. It offers a great reward but all gold spent on this draw is removed from the economy. I feel this would remove a vast amount of gold each month and who doesn't want a chance at an arcane item. It gives free players an actual chance at getting one. As it stands right now a free player has very little chance of obtaining an arcane item.

Callmemr
09-15-2014, 09:04 AM
+1
But i think the jackpot has to be higher.
Otherwise, not many players will play the lottery cause why spending 5k when the chance of hitting the jackpot is very rare and the price is not worth it.
But good idea, like it.

utpal
09-15-2014, 09:16 AM
5k is very less lol.
100k would be good.

lethaljade
09-15-2014, 09:20 AM
If its a gold sink why is the prize gold .. nice idea however few adjustments, make it an exclusive item/vanity thats only won through this lottery, make the cost 20k not 5. If the prize was merely a small gold prize, a lot of people wouldn't participate in it, for example a 100k /500k prize has no interest to me, might do it once, but not exactly interested, if there was exclusive vanitys rotated this would be more of an attraction, just a suggestion.

Covert
09-15-2014, 09:20 AM
I think this is a cool idea, DocDoBig agrees too

fumolamota
09-15-2014, 09:30 AM
I like this idea. STS should just mirror US States' lottos, but without the tax - 50% of entries go to winner. They could have a "Mega-Millions" type counter showing the size of the pot. I also like the idea of implementing multiple lottiers - daily, weekly, monthly, etc.

Titanfall
09-15-2014, 10:02 AM
If its a gold sink why is the prize gold .. nice idea however few adjustments, make it an exclusive item/vanity thats only won through this lottery, make the cost 20k not 5. If the prize was merely a small gold prize, a lot of people wouldn't participate in it, for example a 100k /500k prize has no interest to me, might do it once, but not exactly interested, if there was exclusive vanitys rotated this would be more of an attraction, just a suggestion.

So the new people enter =)
Say 500 people enter, that's 2.5mil out of the economy. And 100k comes in. =)

Titanfall
09-15-2014, 10:06 AM
FOR ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WANTING A BIGGER REWARD:
STS can make special weekends known as 'SUPER JACKPOT weekend'
On this special weekend the lottery prize is greatly increased depending on HOW many people enter.
Only on this weekend if one person enters the lottery payout increases by 2.5k.
So if 500 people enter, that's an extra 1.25mil to the payout. Ticket price says the same.
This is a special event weekend.

noisy
09-15-2014, 10:33 AM
+1
Awesome idea developers please reply,dont sleep.

Titanfall
09-15-2014, 11:11 AM
THE FINAL IDEA:

TO ENTER THE LOTTERY:
Go to any town. Find the lottery NPC (Name hasn't been decided)
Purchase a ticket from him. And wait to see if you've won after 24 hours. If you've won you'll be notified on your alerts and you can go claim your prize from him.

NORMAL LOTTERY SYSTEM:
This is where you pay 5k to enter and the prize is 100k. This lottery happens once a day and lasts 24 hours so everyone can enter. You also win the lottery exlcusive vanity which is tradable.

SUPER JACKPOT WEEKEND:
This is a special weekend event. (Doesn't happen every weekend)
For every person that enters the jackpot is increased by 2.5k.
Ticket price stays the same.


MYTHIC LOTTERY:
This happens once a month. Costs 50k to enter so people don't abuse it by making loads of accounts. You have a chance to win ANY MYTHIC EGG. You also win the vanity. No gold is included in the payout so its a PURE gold sink.

ARCANE LOTTERY:
This also happens once every month. It costs 100k to enter. You have a chance to win ANY ARCANE EGG. As this happens 12 times a year, And there are 6 arcane eggs. Each month has a SPECIFIC egg that will be up for grabs and it will go in the order in which they released. Etc. First month hammerjaw then glacian then samael.
This is so that the same egg isn't given away twice (Which can happen if its a random egg). You also win the exclusive lottery vanity. This is also a PURE gold sink.

Appeltjes
09-15-2014, 11:15 AM
THE FINAL IDEA:

TO ENTER THE LOTTERY:
Go to any town. Find the lottery NPC (Name hasn't been decided)
Purchase a ticket from him. And wait to see if you've won after 24 hours. If you've won you'll be notified on your alerts and you can go claim your prize from him.

NORMAL LOTTERY SYSTEM:
This is where you pay 5k to enter and the prize is 100k. This lottery happens once a day and lasts 24 hours so everyone can enter. You also win the lottery exlcusive vanity which is tradable.

SUPER JACKPOT WEEKEND:
This is a special weekend event. (Doesn't happen every weekend)
For every person that enters the jackpot is increased by 2.5k.
Ticket price stays the same.


MYTHIC LOTTERY:
This happens once a month. Costs 50k to enter so people don't abuse it by making loads of accounts. You have a chance to win ANY MYTHIC EGG. You also win the vanity. No gold is included in the payout so its a PURE gold sink.

ARCANE LOTTERY:
This also happens once every month. It costs 100k to enter. You have a chance to win ANY ARCANE EGG. As this happens 12 times a year, And there are 6 arcane eggs. Each month has a SPECIFIC egg will be up for grabs and it will go in the order in which they released. Etc. First month hammerjaw then glacian then samael.
This is the same egg isn't given away twice (Which can happen if its a random egg). You also win the exclusive lottery vanity.

What is "the vanity"?

Titanfall
09-15-2014, 11:20 AM
What is "the vanity"?
A exclusive lottery vanity. STS can work on designing that if they implement this.

Chrisaetoshawker
09-15-2014, 03:53 PM
Nice idea, kinda like insurance in real life lol

aarrgggggg
09-15-2014, 05:52 PM
Lets face it, Arcane legends is already a gambling game of sorts
Every time you open any chest at all be it locked crate, elite golden or even a lowly copper chest
You are essentially taking a roll of the dice

This idea fits perfectly with this game, and the potential rewards that sts could gain by implementing this is huge
What rewards would sts gain? Players interest whether it is existing players or new players it wouldnt matter
because more people interested in the game translates to more money being spent in game

Pros
#1 Everyone is more interested in the game
#2 Massive amounts of gold being removed from the economy
#3 ALL players have a chance at an exclusive/arcane item

Cons
I cant think of any

Amadorbibidor
09-15-2014, 05:58 PM
Wohoo lottery lol I hope I gonna win :3 (actually I hope a dev gonna see this thread lol, for now no answers)

uunknownn
09-15-2014, 09:27 PM
+1 to get 100k jackpot you need ticket worth of 10k or 500k jackpot ticket worth of 50k and so on....i also like the idea that you can only do this 2-3x a day so people wont just depend their 100% luck on the lottery...this is nice;)

Titanfall
09-16-2014, 10:02 AM
Still waiting for a dev reply

Titanfall
09-17-2014, 06:43 PM
Still waiting

spimeslam
09-18-2014, 01:31 AM
Only negative I can think of is beggars.

Iwannaberich: can I please have(cost of ticket for whatever lottery) plz plz plz plzzzzzzzzz

Imagine that echoed thousands of thousands of times each month lol. I like the idea besides all that begging that will go on.

Derezzzed
09-18-2014, 02:28 AM
+1 gold sink with rewards ilk take it any day of the week

What I will add though is sts should make a Boa (bind on account) items for this lottery so any rewards don't go back into the economy

Ex. 120m spent on lottery collectively, Sam egg given as prize, make that Sam egg BoA which means it's stash able but can't go on cs or trade

basketholic209
09-18-2014, 09:15 AM
+1 gold sink with rewards ilk take it any day of the week

What I will add though is sts should make a Boa (bind on account) items for this lottery so any rewards don't go back into the economy

Ex. 120m spent on lottery collectively, Sam egg given as prize, make that Sam egg BoA which means it's stash able but can't go on cs or trade
As long as the reward is an item, instead of gold, it's meaningless to make it untradeable.

Titanfall
09-18-2014, 05:28 PM
Only negative I can think of is beggars.

Iwannaberich: can I please have(cost of ticket for whatever lottery) plz plz plz plzzzzzzzzz

Imagine that echoed thousands of thousands of times each month lol. I like the idea besides all that begging that will go on.

The lottery ticket is untradeable =)

Helicopter
09-19-2014, 08:57 AM
I was thinking about this:

*Raise the Jackpot, probably 200k.
*New Content: Arlor Lottery (Place) found in Traveler's Outpost.
*NPCs will be found here n the Arlor Lottery
*Different Lottery types will have different Ticket Types and ticket part amounts.
*Super Jackpot will need X Lottery Shards
*Mythic will need X Lottery Shards
*Arcane will need X Lottery Shardd
-Pay 5k to NPC for a ticket slot, giving you a quest.
-The quest will tell you to find ticket parts found with any boss around Arlor.
-You will need the ff:
X Ticket Fragments
X Lottery Shards
-Once found, turn in the quest to the NPC giving you a Lottery Ticket.
-Another NPC, will ask you for a ticket and if you have one, you can turn it in and enter one of the ongoing lotteries.
-You can choose to turn your ticket in some other time. With a 30-Day limit.

Whatcha think?