New arena soooooo awesome!

[Meemaw]

Ok. This new arena stinks... it really does... the bosses kill tanks so fast... Tell me this... is 6.7k hp a lot to you..? Apperently not to the arena. For the arena, you need a minimum of 7k hp (Warr.) if you dont want to get 1/2 shotted... +1 Arena.

The Singe and Bullwark buffs were WAYYYYY to out of the blue, I had a 5m deal that failed and i felt ok cuz it was onyl 7m bulwark... then the buff happened, and now i cant ever be good in pve again! +1 Arena. (Also I think someone I know *not naming* loved to merch singes around 13m... well... this is what happens when promises and hopes are made high. +1 Spacetime studios. )

Arena is too small, the spiders are way too strong for their own good, basicly.. what scares me is that I used more Hp potions on 1 boss run in arena then I use in elite Tind. in a whole map run... thats horrifying... + 1arena.

I'm scared about planar tombs... if this is what arena is made into, whats to come for planar tombs? :nightmare: :nightmare: :nightmare: (for people who dont know, Yes, this is arena, the bug is fixed... and yes, it seems like the bug is still there, but its not, thats just REALLY op arena). -1 Spacetime Studios.

THIS IS P2W. Well. You wanna do arena? Buy some plat, open some lockeds, get a bulwark or arcane stuff, THEN you'll have a chance! (This whole thing requires P2W... no, there's REALLY no free value in this. making something op as hell that a 6.7k hp tank cant even do 2min of is not free... you guys really messed it up this time..) +1 arena.

So... highlight of the day! I hate endgame, im done with arena and planar tombs, If the christmas or halloween event suck, then logging off end game... forever...

Btw: If you ever want to opose or anything in game, pm my twink Oghuze, I'm ok with haters, let em hate. I speak my opinions, you speak yours! :)

- Ajaxfalls

[Rhaindra]

Totaly agree with you. My Tank with 6.9k hp can't stand on curse/spider/poison for 5sec. I,m using combo VB and Juggernaut can't help anymore. :(

[Xorrior]

My opinion is that this arena and boss/mob strength is designed for future expansion and gears. Yes they made it too hard on release, those spiders and exploding mario mushrooms are horrifying.

I think the devs have already nerfed it a little. I as a tank with 6.4 HP was soloing Frostir prox curse, had to give up due to my damage output being almost non-existent..zzzz.

It's just the start of the new season, so we will def get stronger with newer gear. In an expansion or two we will be wondering what all the fuss was about. Our current stats/gears do make it an immense struggle, hence all the ankhs and lixers flying about.

[Serancha]

The Singe and Bullwark buffs were WAYYYYY to out of the blue


Yes, they've only been being discussed for 3 months. Totally out of the blue.

Just about anyone who reads the forums at all knew those buffs were coming. They even tested the Bulwark buff on the public test server.

[Mortalninja]

Totally Agrre >:( I need like 800-1k pots for rutger... (If I can survive the whole fight, cuz its really difficult to survive it) arena is too difficult >.< +1

[Hectororius]

I'll just remind people that Arena is meant to be the toughest of the toughest challenges out there. Its meant to be harder than elites with the increased challenges.

People quickly forget that at lvl 36 cap, the Original Arena was just as difficult as it is now, and with the servers issues now fixed, the arena presents a fair challenge. Its gonna be cheap, its gonna make you rage, its gonna make you cry. BUT thats what its for.

I played today and could not finish a full round after several attempts. There's nothing wrong with not being able to complete the arena. It just means I need to improve my game.

Good Luck.

[Caabatric]

I'll just remind people that Arena is meant to be the toughest of the toughest challenges out there. Its meant to be harder than elites with the increased challenges.

People quickly forget that at lvl 36 cap, the Original Arena was just as difficult as it is now, and with the servers issues now fixed, the arena presents a fair challenge. Its gonna be cheap, its gonna make you rage, its gonna make you cry. BUT thats what its for.

I played today and could not finish a full round after several attempts. There's nothing wrong with not being able to complete the arena. It just means I need to improve my game.

Good Luck.
Also lets remind people that they should be ko ed and with no plat finish this lvl.

I went in with a maxed mage (no arcane ring), me (average mage), full mythic rogue, and a tank.
Guess the outcome... Rogue 2 hits and dead or was it 1. The second mages shield ran out we were dead. The tank alone didn't survive 30 sec.

[Hectororius]

Also lets remind people that they should be ko ed and with no plat finish this lvl.

I went in with a maxed mage (no arcane ring), me (average mage), full mythic rogue, and a tank.
Guess the outcome... Rogue 2 hits and dead or was it 1. The second mages shield ran out we were dead. The tank alone didn't survive 30 sec.

Think of it as insane hard mode. As it should be.

[utpal]

I'll just remind people that Arena is meant to be the toughest of the toughest challenges out there. Its meant to be harder than elites with the increased challenges.

People quickly forget that at lvl 36 cap, the Original Arena was just as difficult as it is now, and with the servers issues now fixed, the arena presents a fair challenge. Its gonna be cheap, its gonna make you rage, its gonna make you cry. BUT thats what its for.

I played today and could not finish a full round after several attempts. There's nothing wrong with not being able to complete the arena. It just means I need to improve my game.

Good Luck.

exactly. but I think it's in lvl31 season. I mean Nordr expansion.
it was damn hard that time.

[ClumsyCactus]

I'll just remind people that Arena is meant to be the toughest of the toughest challenges out there. Its meant to be harder than elites with the increased challenges.

People quickly forget that at lvl 36 cap, the Original Arena was just as difficult as it is now, and with the servers issues now fixed, the arena presents a fair challenge. Its gonna be cheap, its gonna make you rage, its gonna make you cry. BUT thats what its for.

I played today and could not finish a full round after several attempts. There's nothing wrong with not being able to complete the arena. It just means I need to improve my game.

Good Luck.
You are completely correct, except one thing... Think of the legendary people...
The arena IS impossible for them.

[SacredKnight]

You are completely correct, except one thing... Think of the legendary people...
The arena IS impossible for them.

Indeed. I agree, the arena is supposed to be the toughest of the tough! The final challenge! The greatest adversary we have ever faced! But what it shouldn't be is near impossible to play without spending platinum/ankhs or thousands of gold worth of pots with only the very slightest of chances to earn only a measly bit of gold back again. Right now I think lock farming is more profitable than this ^_^

[Gensin]

Ok. This new arena stinks... it really does... the bosses kill tanks so fast... Tell me this... is 6.7k hp a lot to you..? Apperently not to the arena. For the arena, you need a minimum of 7k hp (Warr.) if you dont want to get 1/2 shotted... +1 Arena.

The Singe and Bullwark buffs were WAYYYYY to out of the blue, I had a 5m deal that failed and i felt ok cuz it was onyl 7m bulwark... then the buff happened, and now i cant ever be good in pve again! +1 Arena. (Also I think someone I know *not naming* loved to merch singes around 13m... well... this is what happens when promises and hopes are made high. +1 Spacetime studios. )

Arena is too small, the spiders are way too strong for their own good, basicly.. what scares me is that I used more Hp potions on 1 boss run in arena then I use in elite Tind. in a whole map run... thats horrifying... + 1arena.

I'm scared about planar tombs... if this is what arena is made into, whats to come for planar tombs? :nightmare: :nightmare: :nightmare: (for people who dont know, Yes, this is arena, the bug is fixed... and yes, it seems like the bug is still there, but its not, thats just REALLY op arena). -1 Spacetime Studios.

THIS IS P2W. Well. You wanna do arena? Buy some plat, open some lockeds, get a bulwark or arcane stuff, THEN you'll have a chance! (This whole thing requires P2W... no, there's REALLY no free value in this. making something op as hell that a 6.7k hp tank cant even do 2min of is not free... you guys really messed it up this time..) +1 arena.

So... highlight of the day! I hate endgame, im done with arena and planar tombs, If the christmas or halloween event suck, then logging off end game... forever...

Btw: If you ever want to opose or anything in game, pm my twink Oghuze, I'm ok with haters, let em hate. I speak my opinions, you speak yours! :)

- Ajaxfalls

You dont expect a arena with arcane fossil will just be easy as 1 2 3.. You do realize the consequences of it being easy right? More fossils the cheaper it will get.

Use common sense, Ankh's and Elixir kits ever heard of those before? Both can be free and both can be bought in gold. And its not like you run alone, Theres billions of acane and mythic toons out there, those plat farmers...

[Gensin]

Also lets remind people that they should be ko ed and with no plat finish this lvl.

I went in with a maxed mage (no arcane ring), me (average mage), full mythic rogue, and a tank.
Guess the outcome... Rogue 2 hits and dead or was it 1. The second mages shield ran out we were dead. The tank alone didn't survive 30 sec.

Ever heard of ANKHS?

[Gensin]

You are completely correct, except one thing... Think of the legendary people...
The arena IS impossible for them.

I wouldnt think a legendary will just hop into arcane.

Legendary peeps needs to get mythic set first and then go to the arena. The correct cycle in farming perspective.

[obee]

You dont expect a arena with arcane fossil will just be easy as 1 2 3.. You do realize the consequences of it being easy right? More fossils the cheaper it will get.

Use common sense, Ankh's and Elixir kits ever heard of those before? Both can be free and both can be bought in gold. And its not like you run alone, Theres billions of acane and mythic toons out there, those plat farmers...
The chances of looting fossils are low lol. Very low.

[GoodSyntax]

The chances of looting fossils are low lol. Very low.

Very, very, very low...


I'm approaching 50 Arena Master Chests that I've opened, every single one has been an Epic, no Legendaries, and I can only LOL at the odds of getting a Fossil. Sure, the Fossil is the primary incentive to farm the Arena, but come on! So, at least for me, it is <2% chance of a Legendary (which currently includes Architect gear???) from the chest. If the Fossil is two orders of magnitude more rare, I'm facing a <0.02% chance???

I remember back in S2/S3, Malison was the equivalent of an Arcane pet (he was the best pet for a very long time); but now, who doesn't have Mali? Yes, I get it, Nekro is Arcane, blah, blah, but in time, everyone should stand a reasonable chance to get him if they continue working hard in the Arena, continue running enough elite Tindirin to acquire 15 Vials and get all three Parchments.

The Fossil should be about half the drop rate of an egg off of Arachna (which is pretty rare, IMHO) -you don't see that many of those eggs in auction, and the value hasn't budged by much as this season wore on. I just don't see the market suddenly being flooded by Fossils and Nekro. The pet's value has already dropped by a lot, and I'm totally comfortable with maintaining a high value on Vials. 45m for Nekro is reasonable, even in the face of a double odds weekend and near zero availability on Vials for the past few weeks.

Most farmers will keep one Nekro for their endgame toons (maybe even their twinks as well) before they start selling additional eggs. If that means that in 3 or 4 seasons, the value of Nekro drops to 10-12m, the same way that HJ value has fallen, then that's fair, since we will likely have other things to chase and hope to get tremendously lucky.

[Chrisaetoshawker]

We can get fossils for free without opening locked!! Yes!! But we just don't know when:p
It's like lottery, most of the time i don't expect to have any reward

[Chrisaetoshawker]

Most farmers will keep one Nekro for their endgame toons (maybe even their twinks as well) before they start selling additional eggs. If that means that in 3 or 4 seasons, the value of Nekro drops to 10-12m, the same way that HJ value has fallen, then that's fair, since we will likely have other things to chase and hope to get tremendously lucky.

Well unlike PL(or other games) pets can be opened since level 1, meaning that if they keep having new arcane pets(ofc they will only buff) twinks will be op as well...just my opinion

[Dex Scene]

I dont need fossils. I need happy halloween ap (which is now replaced by mushrom) and i need fun. Hard arena is welcome not impossible arenas. When there is One shot kill it is no skill needed..just need rich inventory, lots of golds to buy pots and ankhs period.
I can stand if stg stop their majority of players from participating some maps or arena but i cant stand people trolling others and insulting others when they are giving feedbacks on its being too hard for them!!!

You have arcanes? You are more than rich? You farmed so many plats and bought some? The arena is not hard at all for you? Good for you. Give your feedback just like others. Don't go on insulting others that they shouldn't dream about this that, do this that, heard about this ankhs that anks bla bla.
I go drink some and calm down. Laters

[Gensin]

I dont need fossils. I need happy halloween ap (which is now replaced by mushrom) and i need fun. Hard arena is welcome not impossible arenas. When there is One shot kill it is no skill needed..just need rich inventory, lots of golds to buy pots and ankhs period.
I can stand if stg stop their majority of players from participating some maps or arena but i cant stand people trolling others and insulting others when they are giving feedbacks on its being too hard for them!!!

You have arcanes? You are more than rich? You farmed so many plats and bought some? The arena is not hard at all for you? Good for you. Give your feedback just like others. Don't go on insulting others that they shouldn't dream about this that, do this that, heard about this ankhs that anks bla bla.
I go drink some and calm down. Laters

Well, 98% go for the the loot. And you might also, dont tell me you dont need fossil lol, a massive lie.
Now your just pointing fingers :).
Well its no insult you see, its a suggestion in a interogative form, arena is hard, without spending a little gold you will not suceed, theres plenty of people running it and almost all have mythic gear and almost arcane ring, Not my problem anymore if you take it hard. As because theres always critics in the world.

[Gensin]

The chances of looting fossils are low lol. Very low.

Well its a start, and its possible but in a very low rate.

[Chrisaetoshawker]

Well I've been thinking of a chest that does guarantee to have at least a reward(not junk) like locked.
The lowest reward for locked is 2k, why not for other hard-to-obtain chests?

[Candylicks]

Very negative post Ajax and I am sorry you feel that way. You are a fun person to play with and it saddens me to read this. First, arena is hard yup. You have to work with your party and learn the strategy for each encounter. Don't expect it to come easy, it doesn't. Second, StS has done a lot to make the game a balance of F2P and P2W. You can now buy Ankh kits and rev without purchasing plat. The entire last event, all of the non-plat players made bank so your complaints are really invalid.

You don't have to P2W to acquire arcane items. I can name off a lot of non-plat players who bust their butt in the game and have arcanes. You can earn these things by either spending time or money, but it's possible both ways.

I hope you stick around and see the game for what is the most important... meeting friends and sharing in a love for playing a game together. AL is an awesome community!!!

[Dex Scene]

Well, 98% go for the the loot. And you might also, dont tell me you dont need fossil lol, a massive lie.
Now your just pointing fingers :).
Well its no insult you see, its a suggestion in a interogative form, arena is hard, without spending a little gold you will not suceed, theres plenty of people running it and almost all have mythic gear and almost arcane ring, Not my problem anymore if you take it hard. As because theres always critics in the world.

I need the fossil but i dont expect to get one. I don't run arena for fossil. When the arena didn't have fossil i still used to run arena 4/5th of my time playing AL.

Iam sorry if i point my fingers at anyone. If you guys do run them well, give the feedbacks without flamming others and try helping others or give suggestions, that all i wanna say.
Completing the arena with little golds? Last time i defeated glob and bloodhammer, i wasted lots of ankhs and hundreds hunereds of pots and couldn't defeat the next boss stahl so couldn't complete the arena! Its not little gold.
Anyway i won't be here arguing anyone anymore. I hate fights :)

[Chrisaetoshawker]

I need the fossil but i dont expect to get one. I don't run arena for fossil. When the arena didn't have fossil i still used to run arena 4/5th of my time playing AL.

Iam sorry if i point my fingers at anyone. If you guys do run them well, give the feedbacks without flamming others and try helping others or give suggestions, that all i wanna say.
Completing the arena with little golds? Last time i defeated glob and bloodhammer, i wasted lots of ankhs and hundreds hunereds of pots and couldn't defeat the next boss stahl so couldn't complete the arena! Its not little gold.
Anyway i won't be here arguing anyone anymore. I hate fights :)

Yes, more people like Kali plz;)

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?176245-Idea-For-Future-Client-Improved-Auto-Adjustable-PvE&p=1829079#post1829079

[Dex Scene]

Yes, more people like Kali plz;)

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?176245-Idea-For-Future-Client-Improved-Auto-Adjustable-PvE&p=1829079#post1829079
The community needs more people like kali :)

[Sorcerie]

Very negative post Ajax and I am sorry you feel that way. You are a fun person to play with and it saddens me to read this. First, arena is hard yup. You have to work with your party and learn the strategy for each encounter. Don't expect it to come easy, it doesn't. Second, StS has done a lot to make the game a balance of F2P and P2W. You can now buy Ankh kits and rev without purchasing plat. The entire last event, all of the non-plat players made bank so your complaints are really invalid.

You don't have to P2W to acquire arcane items. I can name off a lot of non-plat players who bust their butt in the game and have arcanes. You can earn these things by either spending time or money, but it's possible both ways.

I hope you stick around and see the game for what is the most important... meeting friends and sharing in a love for playing a game together. AL is an awesome community!!!Sorry Candy, but atm I don't think the new arena is for the casual player. Anyone wearing pinks doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell in the new arena seeing as how I'm a full super gemmed arcane mage and I still haven't finished a single run - never mind actually finding a party who can help you complete a full run without dropping a fortune on elixirs, ankhs, and pots.

So I'm not farming deaths or wasting gold on kits, it's just not worth it for the drops. Period.

[GoodSyntax]

So I'm not farming deaths or wasting gold on kits, it's just not worth it for the drops. Period.

This is really the biggest reason for not going. The return on investment in arena is really, really bad. If I were to put a value on the Arena Chests (since you can't sell them), I'd say 7-10k MAX. A single drop with a super-low chance at Planar Gladiator gear, and effectively a zero chance at a fossil. Better to invest in Elite Copper/Silver Dragonchests, at least you can get eggs out of them, and you get three rolls instead of one.

The cost to acquire the Arena Chests far exceed their value right now.

[Sorcerie]

This is really the biggest reason for not going. The return on investment in arena is really, really bad. If I were to put a value on the Arena Chests (since you can't sell them), I'd say 7-10k MAX. A single drop with a super-low chance at Planar Gladiator gear, and effectively a zero chance at a fossil. Better to invest in Elite Copper/Silver Dragonchests, at least you can get eggs out of them, and you get three rolls instead of one.

The cost to acquire the Arena Chests far exceed their value right now.Well, the plat spenders and the rich always get first dibs on whatever they can manage to get from new content when it drops, so let the plat and gold sink do it's magic until the rest of us can actually play the game without losing everything we have in the process.

I'll just wait till they find the balance for everyone else. >_>;;

[Gensin]

I need the fossil but i dont expect to get one. I don't run arena for fossil. When the arena didn't have fossil i still used to run arena 4/5th of my time playing AL.

Iam sorry if i point my fingers at anyone. If you guys do run them well, give the feedbacks without flamming others and try helping others or give suggestions, that all i wanna say.
Completing the arena with little golds? Last time i defeated glob and bloodhammer, i wasted lots of ankhs and hundreds hunereds of pots and couldn't defeat the next boss stahl so couldn't complete the arena! Its not little gold.
Anyway i won't be here arguing anyone anymore. I hate fights :)

Well we must be different perspective, I can do the arena well and I spend like 19 ankhs only, not bragging.

[Dex Scene]

Well we must be different perspective, I can do the arena well and I spend like 19 ankhs only, not bragging.
19 anks. So thats like almost 45-55k gold. Not to mention the hp and mana pots. All for one run. I wont call it costly but its not cheap at all.
I would love challenges, we all do. But if it wasn't for One hit KO I would love the arena. Anyway i respect your opinions and would be keen to get tips, helps/suggestions from you guys soon.

[Anarchist]

There are people that still think one can gain arcanes through farming?

Maybe in the past but right now it is impossible apart from fossil.

and in the past 1/1000 made it.

[joydhillon]

Spend gold trying to farm arena. Get nothing in return.
P.s : not talking about nekro.

[Candylicks]

There are people that still think one can gain arcanes through farming?

Maybe in the past but right now it is impossible apart from fossil.

and in the past 1/1000 made it.

Yep. There are, but I will tell you that they spend a TON of time playing the game and deserve every single red they own. Do you know Icedblood/Icedgiant? He's one of the CU officers. He farms the heck out of map 2 in Tind elite and has been busy busting it in Arena. I saw he's got some gladiator gear up in CS.. one item was 2m. Recently he was able to buy Kersh for his mage, and he also has glaives and bulwark on his warrior. He does not pop locked and only uses plat in small amounts for rev. When the game is in a lull he farms locked in KM3. The guy is a beast and worked very hard for what he has.

In my guild... Arkanem is now an arcane mage. He figured out how to profit well off the last event, and also does not pop locked and only uses a small amount of plat for rev.

Kyubilixious same thing. Just bought Kershal, he lived in KM3 farming locked and was able to save up for it.

It's possible. Just saying that you can play the game wisely and save you gold up to earn the items you desire. It's NOT easy but I wanted to give you some names of people so you know I'm not just saying it.

[Candylicks]

Sorry Candy, but atm I don't think the new arena is for the casual player. Anyone wearing pinks doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell in the new arena seeing as how I'm a full super gemmed arcane mage and I still haven't finished a single run - never mind actually finding a party who can help you complete a full run without dropping a fortune on elixirs, ankhs, and pots.

So I'm not farming deaths or wasting gold on kits, it's just not worth it for the drops. Period.

<3 But you aren't leaving the game over it nor do you QQ on the forums. I 100% agree the loot stinks and it needs to reward us for investing in ankh/plat/pots. Go post in the feedback thread Remi has- we've all been trying to express this sentiment. Trust me when I open my arena chests and get all purples and a freaking architect I'm not happy.

[Jexetta]

20+ completed and my best loot thus far has been 1 armor from the nordr season 18 purple items, and 1 shade crown of grace.

As per previous posts, the only reason to run arena is to get the achievement points. Running Jarl appears to be much more lucrative which is sad considering running jarl over and over has been a method for slowly making money since season 1...

I will say the graphics and environment is pretty, but that alone isn't enough to warrant running arena. Given that you can't even sell chests from arena now, and I'm not into opening chests, it's another let down.

When it was first announced that they were redoing the arena zone it gave me pause considering the majority of players hate arena - I always considered it the most hated zone in the game. In my opinion the time spent would have been nicer to develop say.... Lower hauntlet! But then again... Lower hauntlet is just a myth right?

[Justg]

Lower hauntlet is just a myth right?

*shifty eyes*

[Jexetta]

Hahahaha Justg! I literally burst out laughing.

[ClumsyCactus]

When it was first announced that they were redoing the arena zone it gave me pause considering the majority of players hate arena - I always considered it the most hated zone in the game.

Introducing Nordr, the place Where you can one-shot yourself (alpha wolf, the rogues nightmare) freeze about 27 Times per run (least) and Where there is a goat with about as high health as a normal elite boss...

[Reunegade]

*shifty eyes*
Haha

[spimeslam]

Tis true farming planar arena is harsh odds just like opening locks. You use gold/plat for elixir to farm plus gold/plat for revs because well just about everybody gets killed there some.

Majority of the time (just like locks) you use gold and plat for very little gain. You must be very evasive pot spammer if rogue or sorc and if warrior must be op armored pot spammer lol. Just 1 hit for glob took 7k HP from me (7.3k HP total). If fog hits you or mushroom hits you after a hit like that, its over and if u Rev usually at wrong time or while effect/boss right beside you, you die again before you are able to pot to save your life. And if you aren't warrior I guess you die from initial first hit so that's 1 plat possibly spent every time boss attacks.

You do all this for 1 chance of item that could be worth elite value. With locked you get 3 chances. Must do arena 3 times to get 3 items chance worth elite value. similar to locked except you just use 6k and 15 plat.. which is about what some use to try to beat arena one time but must buy elixirs too which are high value cuz of arena now.

If you aren't op geared probably best to open locks/farm elsewhere til u are, you may have a chance to make worthwhile after.

Sacredknight said Jarl puts out more cash for your expense (which very well may be true) unless you are extremely lucky... is it worth it... hmmm I really don't know. you can't farm arena if broke. To farm gold at arena you must be op with op group.

At 46 cap we will work our way up to reg legendaries to struggle to do elites and after you farm pro set of elite gears we will all get to finally struggle to beat arena for whatever item will be worth it at that time.

If you ask me you should be able to get all possible mythic/arcane (with exception to eggs)from locked from elite master chest. You do just get 1 chance after all from completion of arena. Of course odds would still be super low.. but would it be worth while then?

I posted this at other thread but seems appropriate here.

Sorry for long post :-/ and excuse my punctuation I fail at writing etiquette lol

[Meemaw]

Very negative post Ajax and I am sorry you feel that way. You are a fun person to play with and it saddens me to read this. First, arena is hard yup. You have to work with your party and learn the strategy for each encounter. Don't expect it to come easy, it doesn't. Second, StS has done a lot to make the game a balance of F2P and P2W. You can now buy Ankh kits and rev without purchasing plat. The entire last event, all of the non-plat players made bank so your complaints are really invalid.

You don't have to P2W to acquire arcane items. I can name off a lot of non-plat players who bust their butt in the game and have arcanes. You can earn these things by either spending time or money, but it's possible both ways.

I hope you stick around and see the game for what is the most important... meeting friends and sharing in a love for playing a game together. AL is an awesome community!!!

Thank you, but my point is although true, someone's comment on this thread was that in a little while we'll have new gear and pets and this fuss about arena being hard will all be behind us. (think it was Xorrior who said that) and that was by far the most releaving comment i've seen so far... its true, i havnt thought that way... I felt because by the time someone makes another 10mil (for me that'll take about a good 3-4 weeks. Then the bulwark will be riased double. my point is if sts expects people to get bulwark and stuff and these end game buffed gear they're in for a surprise... :/ (If you aint got 8m+ now, and you dont make it to 8m+ in about a week, you'll be a warrior without bulwark forever... unless you loot from one of those 70k each lockeds that drop greens... :(

[Hectororius]

Ppl hit the nail on the head. Arena isn't meant for under geared players. Its meant to be difficult for top geared players who already excel at the game and have a solid grasp of the mechanics of the game.

Its not meant for the casual gamer.

But a valid point is made. There should be more than just a single arcane that is worth anything inside the chest. Why not add some mythic drops as well so that the end is justified

[Anarchist]

Yep. There are, but I will tell you that they spend a TON of time playing the game and deserve every single red they own. Do you know Icedblood/Icedgiant? He's one of the CU officers. He farms the heck out of map 2 in Tind elite and has been busy busting it in Arena. I saw he's got some gladiator gear up in CS.. one item was 2m. Recently he was able to buy Kersh for his mage, and he also has glaives and bulwark on his warrior. He does not pop locked and only uses plat in small amounts for rev. When the game is in a lull he farms locked in KM3. The guy is a beast and worked very hard for what he has.

In my guild... Arkanem is now an arcane mage. He figured out how to profit well off the last event, and also does not pop locked and only uses a small amount of plat for rev.

Kyubilixious same thing. Just bought Kershal, he lived in KM3 farming locked and was able to save up for it.

It's possible. Just saying that you can play the game wisely and save you gold up to earn the items you desire. It's NOT easy but I wanted to give you some names of people so you know I'm not just saying it.

These players took a route that origined from a different period, where the game loots worthed something so if they put a lot of time and costant effort, saved up, you could "aspire" to a arcane staff.

It is always possible yes but realistically speaking:

Kershal 20m, i will remove 5m due to merching now its 15m
Lockeds 5k list it lose 300-400gold fee =4.7k
Kershal divided by lock= you will have to loot 3191 lockeds.


Magmatic totems 600k listing fee 30k =570k
Kershal= 15m
Kershal divided by totems=26

Consider i also remove the cost of every run both in kits and pots.

This are all acheiveable goals that requires a no life gameplay and tbh i know many that where saying they never popped crates and never bought plat, when i asked them wow how did you get all those stuff man they would tell me ' farmed lockeds and merched: Majority of them are banned now.