View Full Version : Help me de-crap-ify my pally.
giantjoe
01-27-2011, 10:32 AM
So I just respecced to 127-126 from 158-95 b/c I'm not doing enough spell damage. I've got no idea what type of gear to go for. Seems to me I was too soft at 158-95. One or two hits from bosses and I was done.
My Skills are as follows
5-2-5-1
5-5-5-5
5-1-5-5
Here's my current gear.
-in use- (in inventory)
-Rageborn Helmet of Destiny- (Battleforged Helmet of Destiny)
-Limbchopper of Destiny- (Flickering Blade of Destiny, Luminous Harpoon of Destiny, Plasma Axe of the Rift)
-Battleforged Plate of Destiny- (Mynas Plate of Thoth)
-Force Kite Shield of the Rift-
What should I shoot for in the gear department? Do i need to reskill after 1.7 drops?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Ellyidol
01-27-2011, 10:38 AM
Your skills are fine, the only difference we have is that I opted to max my mana shield rather than ice storm, but thats just my personal thing.
For your gear, you could use a rift set. Its the best among the str sets IMO, and they're getting cheaper. If you can hold off a few more days, they're going to get cheaper. Whats your armor and health at in that set?
They didn't say anything new on 1.7 regarding skills. So my guess is you'll just have more skill points to use.
Royce
01-27-2011, 10:53 AM
I'd definitely try to upgrade to rift if possible. If you cant afford full Rift, try for some hate pieces (better than individual rift, just no bonus for complete set), particularly plate and helm. If that's still out of your price range, at least wear the battleforged helm instead of rageborn, and personally I prefer the harpoon to the limbchopper. The chopper gives you slightly higher damage, but the harpoon has a break armor proc and gives you a tiny bit longer range (not much but enough that I find it noticeably useful on a pally).
StompArtist
01-27-2011, 10:59 AM
I use full shadow with limchopper and my stats are pretty close to yours... What makes you feel that your build is not what it should be? Perhaps it is just a "bad habit"... ie: I use to do some combos wrong and since I have remapped my spells I have observed a huge difference...
Wbto-Angeluscustos
01-27-2011, 11:10 AM
I have my pally.. and I am using
battleforgedhelm, scimatar (rift), some red destiny armor, skull rift shield thing, but like the first who commented the mana shield helps alot, im not an expert but i gues respecing your abilities would help.. :( sorry i dont know much
Royce
01-27-2011, 11:15 AM
I have my pally.. and I am using
battleforgedhelm, scimatar (rift), some red destiny armor, skull rift shield thing, but like the first who commented the mana shield helps alot, im not an expert but i gues respecing your abilities would help.. :( sorry i dont know much
There is no reason to use the scim unless you are using the whole rift set. You'd be better off with a harpoon or chopper. Also I would never put more than 1 in mana shield (unless I had no other choice which will be fairly soon lol). You get 4 armor for the first point, an only 2 points of armor buff per skill point after that. It is the smallest gain for skill point spending for any class not just mage, and totally not worth it IMO.
giantjoe
01-27-2011, 11:19 AM
Well I just did some playing after the respec, and it seems better. I also just found a Jacob's Helm of the Rift which may have helped. My issue may be more with how I play I guess??
Basically I spam in the following order.
Lightning, ice storm, fire storm.
If things get tough I spam
Both debuffs, steal health, lighning, ice storm, fire storm, lightning.
Is there a better way?
Wbto-Angeluscustos
01-27-2011, 11:20 AM
There is no reason to use the scim unless you are using the whole rift set. You'd be better off with a harpoon or chopper. Also I would never put more than 1 in mana shield (unless I had no other choice which will be fairly soon lol). You get 4 armor for the first point, an only 2 points of armor buff per skill point after that. It is the smallest gain for skill point spending for any class not just mage, and totally not worth it IMO.
omg really wow i suck.. i have alot of pinks man can u help me one day whats good for my guys cause clearly i had no idea.
Royce
01-27-2011, 11:24 AM
omg really wow i suck.. i have alot of pinks man can u help me one day whats good for my guys cause clearly i had no idea.
Lol I'm sure you don't suck. The scim isn't bad, there are just better options if you don't have full rift ;)
Anyway feel free to PM me any time.
Wbto-Angeluscustos
01-27-2011, 11:27 AM
kk and just wandering for like a helm would i use overlords helm or rift or the Jacobs helm of rift.. and I would use power armor.. cause i have power armor just never used it? but i need to know which helm to get?
Royce
01-27-2011, 12:22 PM
kk and just wandering for like a helm would i use overlords helm or rift or the Jacobs helm of rift.. and I would use power armor.. cause i have power armor just never used it? but i need to know which helm to get?
You need the OL Rift helm for the set (both Rift sets actually), and even if you were not using the whole set OL has 5 more armor than Jacobs.
Fyrce
01-27-2011, 12:24 PM
Or you could just try all your gear and see what each does to your stats, since you say you have a bunch of gear. And if same, then just try it out in fights.
Royce
01-27-2011, 12:27 PM
Or you could just try all your gear and see what each does to your stats, since you say you have a bunch of gear. And if same, then just try it out in fights.
This good advice except you should try different things out even if they don't seem equal in stats. Sometimes an item with inferior stats is better in practice because of a sweet proc or something ;)
StompArtist
01-27-2011, 12:28 PM
Well I just did some playing after the respec, and it seems better. I also just found a Jacob's Helm of the Rift which may have helped. My issue may be more with how I play I guess??
Basically I spam in the following order.
Lightning, ice storm, fire storm.
If things get tough I spam
Both debuffs, steal health, lighning, ice storm, fire storm, lightning.
Is there a better way?
That is about what I do. What I meant is the button mapping, I used to have shield, for example, on the left column at the bottom and would always forget to use it or use it too late in the fight (boss dies and then BEHOLD! shield!). Now I moved it right next to my combo column and I tend to consider it every time I do a combo... Small change made all the difference for me.
giantjoe
01-27-2011, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the input. The respec really helped. Now that I've done some playing with the new spec I've found I'm not completely useless.
Arterra
01-27-2011, 10:20 PM
Well I just did some playing after the respec, and it seems better. I also just found a Jacob's Helm of the Rift which may have helped. My issue may be more with how I play I guess??
Basically I spam in the following order.
Lightning, ice storm, fire storm.
If things get tough I spam
Both debuffs, steal health, lighning, ice storm, fire storm, lightning.
Is there a better way?
i practically use my debuffs every time i can. lets see...
debuff(s), lightning, ice(es), fire,
i use my buffs right when going into a room, and make sure to time my drain life and heal so they maximize hp recovered before slamming pots.
Fyrce
01-28-2011, 04:14 PM
Button mapping really depends on you and your play style and how you like to tap. I think most people like to buff together, debuffs together, damage together, heals together, etc. I've also tried, where if something is in a combo or I have a certain order I like to do the skills, I like then up on the outside of the square in a row or column or along the edges. I usually put things I don't use as much in the middle or bottom left corner, but it really depends on your fingers and your style.