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LibertyBells (Jasper)
09-22-2014, 03:35 AM
Ok, after a brutal verse off with a few top of the food chain characters, has me wondering about other peoples perspective about pvp'ing. Now before anyone starts commenting terrible things about what this thread has to talk about, notice the title for this topic. If you have a problem, please leave via the return button.

Everyone argues about how Sorcerers have the best advantage in pvp because of our shield, which i have to agree on some extent, but I have a comment to say about that. Our shield is mainly based on how high our STR/INT is currently at. After a shield is cast, you have 2 seconds of invulnerability. How come this does not portray to my little blue guy? I get 4200 critted right after i cast it out. Its weird. Like the glitch to where if you cast out a heal, if you are hit RIGHT when you cast it the heal doesn't "register" and you're stuck there with the same hp you were at.

Now, the point that im hoping to make today is about the ever so talked about ganging thats going on. I know its a huge aspect of the game and yes i've done it also, yada-yada. My problem is a whole team filled with arcane rings, Sns, 300mil invested into account players.

A Sorcerer is supposedly a support class but really, who do we support?! Only thing we do support wise is either: give mana to other players, knock-off hp so other players can kill (which im okay with, pvp is a team thing), or be shooting targets for the enemies so "other players" can get kill. We already have the lowest armor/dodge/crit % in PVP HISTORY. And no, i dont want to hear stories or "How to's" from other players. I've tried everything when it comes to pvp, best thing to do is either leave, find a way to hack into AL and enhance your mage, or to raise 100m and buy an arcane ring yourself, which can take up to 5 minutes to 5 years.

Nostek
09-22-2014, 03:53 AM
Twink at all? :]

LibertyBells (Jasper)
09-22-2014, 03:57 AM
I've seen reports on twinking and i steer clear of it

Caabatric
09-22-2014, 10:30 AM
Great another pro mage gone. :(
As for ganging cant say much other than leave the game and get called a nub.

raw
09-22-2014, 12:56 PM
Jasper I empathize with you totally. Mages are a VERY difficult class to be great at because they are disproportionately weak in pvp. With the recent Bulwark buff, and razor shield glitch being abused, mages don't really stand much of a chance unless they are fully maxed.

I think the issue, however, is bigger than just going to head to head with other players, and comparing which class is better. Rather, the issue is that CTF is not being played as it was intended. It's CAPTURE THE (****ING) FLAG, not let's go 5v5 and murder eachother in a cesspool of animations, where we do the panic dance for 75% of the fight, and the team with more tanks and arcane items usually wins.

Jasper, I've said this a lot, and I think if people start playing CTF properly, then they will realize that mages are an AWESOME class. In real CTF a mage can be an asset to a team because of their ability to stun, slow, and use wind to fly by characters.

Give real CTF a try, and then reconsider how good a mage is at pvp.

Also, feel free to PM me if you're trying to organize a CTF match. I'm always down!

Caabatric
09-22-2014, 03:31 PM
Jasper I empathize with you totally. Mages are a VERY difficult class to be great at because they are disproportionately weak in pvp. With the recent Bulwark buff, and razor shield glitch being abused, mages don't really stand much of a chance unless they are fully maxed.

I think the issue, however, is bigger than just going to head to head with other players, and comparing which class is better. Rather, the issue is that CTF is not being played as it was intended. It's CAPTURE THE (****ING) FLAG, not let's go 5v5 and murder eachother in a cesspool of animations, where we do the panic dance for 75% of the fight, and the team with more tanks and arcane items usually wins.

Jasper, I've said this a lot, and I think if people start playing CTF properly, then they will realize that mages are an AWESOME class. In real CTF a mage can be an asset to a team because of their ability to stun, slow, and use wind to fly by characters.

Give real CTF a try, and then reconsider how good a mage is at pvp.

Also, feel free to PM me if you're trying to organize a CTF match. I'm always down!
Real ctf!!
Man make it 10 goals per game and ill be so happy!

LibertyBells (Jasper)
09-22-2014, 06:22 PM
Haha I have to be honest, in all my times of playing CTF I've never once tried to play the game for its purpose. Ill definitely hit you up! Sounds like CTF could be an awesome game to play if we actually capture/defend flags.

Caabatric
09-22-2014, 06:53 PM
I remember in 5th grade our class was obsessed with Ctf. We played almost everyday and went real hardcore one day when every 5th grader in the school played against the 4th and 3rd graders.

UndeadJudge
09-22-2014, 07:54 PM
Agreed, but anyone who thinks mages have "the best advantage" has ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO PLAY MAGE! I used to nuke down rogues at 24, but the new gear and skill swaps etc make it impossible.

But seriously, who on earth said mages had an advantage in pvp? That's hilariously ignorant.


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Tehh
09-22-2014, 08:27 PM
I've seen reports on twinking and i steer clear of it

Twinking has a bad rep mainly because people dont know how to ignore

Dex Scene
09-23-2014, 03:01 AM
I play my mythic mage just to receive story tokens.

Zynzyn
09-25-2014, 06:11 AM
Haha I have to be honest, in all my times of playing CTF I've never once tried to play the game for its purpose. Ill definitely hit you up! Sounds like CTF could be an awesome game to play if we actually capture/defend flags.

Players would need an incentive for wanting to win the "capture the flag'' game as a team. I had suggested in an old thread that on a player's profile, ctf games won and lost (as a team) ratio should show up. This would encourage players to play as a team and capture/protect those flags with teamwork. Without this, players just walk around aimlessly killing opponents on sight.