PvP class Rogue damage adjustments in Team Death | Official Discussion Thread

[Hercules]

What do you think?

I Believe that is unfair and now mages are more strong, I want a damage adjustments for mages!

[Ebezaanec]

This topic has been going on for seasons.

Nerfing rogues would reduce their effectiveness in the DPS and single-target DMG category. Mages were not exactly designed for 1v1. Group clashes are more suitable. For example. 5 mages vs 5 rogues = ?

On the other hand, buffing mages might cause some more problems. Survival is a mage's problem. Maybe buff armor or buff the arcane shield. After all, the most likely reason you created this thread was in response to combo KO's from rogues which connects to their dmg OPness

[Hercules]

I prefer less DPS that reduce DMG :(

[Im back dudes]

have u not seen
mage > rogue
rogue > tank
tank > mage ?
why adjust mage damage?
bad enough we still get 1 shot without shield.
plus mages need the buff.
if you adjust our damage its easily
rogue > mage
rogue > tank
Its supposed to be balanced pal

[Hercules]

have u not seen
mage > rogue
rogue > tank
tank > mage ?
why adjust mage damage?
bad enough we still get 1 shot without shield.
plus mages need the buff.
if you adjust our damage its easily
rogue > mage
rogue > tank
Its supposed to be balanced pal

error! now is..
tank>rogue
mage>rogue

[Im back dudes]

idk what braket you play...
thats certainly not endgame for that matter

[Xpolosion]

Lmaoooo are rogues seriously complaining -.-

[Im back dudes]

ikr

[Instanthumor]

I Believe that is unfair and now mages are more strong, I want a damage adjustments for mages!

You call a nerf for mages?

Let's gang him.

[Madnex]

Seeing how easier it became for mages to wreck rogues now, I respec'd for PvE on rogue. You can almost hear the ring rogues' surprise when they drop from mythic mages; quite nice. :)

[Gensin]

I Believe that is unfair and now mages are more strong, I want a damage adjustments for mages!

XD, This literally made me fall off my chair srsly..

[Idly]

Official discussion thread lol
Nerf mages because you cant one shot us anymore... here are some words that us mages have been hearing for a long long long long time.

LEARN TO PLAY YOUR CLASS BETTER XD

mwahahahahaha

[Quickrr]

XD, This literally made me fall off my chair srsly..
Don't laugh at what he believes lol I can see where he's coming from rogues are just upset that we're nerfed in CTF and Now tdm its a bit annoying and I do miss the old PvP clearly won't be coming back tho since all the warriors and mages complained to sts and they finally budged

[Gensin]

Don't laugh at what he believes lol I can see where he's coming from rogues are just upset that we're nerfed in CTF and Now tdm its a bit annoying and I do miss the old PvP clearly won't be coming back tho since all the warriors and mages complained to sts and they finally budged

Do you play mage?

I left my mage twink for some valid reasons. Mages have been suffering from seasons to seasons, Fact: It is almost impossible for a mage to defeat a tank. (Look at 1:59 in this video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T88ndFimsos Credits to Conradev) in this video a mage with Arcane ring and arcane staff, got defeated by a warrior with a mythic weapon.

[Quickrr]

Do you play mage?

I left my mage twink for some valid reasons. Mages have been suffering from seasons to seasons, Fact: It is almost impossible for a mage to defeat a tank. (Look at 1:59 in this video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T88ndFimsos Credits to Conradev) in this video a mage with Arcane ring and arcane staff, got defeated by a warrior with a mythic weapon.
That doesn't really prove anything..

[Quickrr]

Do you play mage?

I left my mage twink for some valid reasons. Mages have been suffering from seasons to seasons, Fact: It is almost impossible for a mage to defeat a tank. (Look at 1:59 in this video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T88ndFimsos Credits to Conradev) in this video a mage with Arcane ring and arcane staff, got defeated by a warrior with a mythic weapon.
I'm not talking about endgame BTW sorry I didn't mention that I'm talking about Twinks endgame damage Nerf for rogues isnt much because u can still do one combo and kill with 490+ damage

[Gensin]

That doesn't really prove anything..

Elaborate.
In the video a mage with arcane ring got doomed by a warrior without one. Isnt that clear enough?

[Instanthumor]

Elaborate.
In the video a mage with arcane ring got doomed by a warrior without one. Isnt that clear enough?

He deliberately put in the clip of me losing that one time because of lucky panic :p This was last season before new dumb client. Any warrior now without Bulwark is as good as food.

[Gensin]

He deliberately put in the clip of me losing that one time because of lucky panic :p This was last season before new dumb client. Any warrior now without Bulwark is as good as food.

Exactly!
So no for the OP, dont nerf mages.

[Instanthumor]

Exactly!
So no for the OP, dont nerf mages.

Should nerf/change Bulwark proc instead.

[obee]

...No

[Titanium]

Nerf mages? Is this a joke? Poor little blue guys... they have to activate the shield wherever they go

[obee]

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[Hercules]

You call a nerf for mages?

Let's gang him.


Official discussion thread lol
Nerf mages because you cant one shot us anymore... here are some words that us mages have been hearing for a long long long long time.

LEARN TO PLAY YOUR CLASS BETTER XD

mwahahahahaha


Nerf mages? Is this a joke? Poor little blue guys... they have to activate the shield wherever they go


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I´m sorry but what mean nerf? no can translate it to spanish :P

[Idly]

I´m sorry but what mean nerf? no can translate it to spanish :P

Means take away our skills/stats/abilities. Ie make us weaker

[Unafeuec]

Seeing how easier it became for mages to wreck rogues now, I respec'd for PvE on rogue. You can almost hear the ring rogues' surprise when they drop from mythic mages; quite nice. :)

I am an arcane mage and I've dropped from numerous mythic rogues, with this it should be about even now. Warriors are always hard to kill no matter what class you play. I've been away a week, but this does urge me to come back and play

[Xeusx]

I´m sorry but what mean nerf? no can translate it to spanish :P
I wanna nerf your emote in your sig.

[uunknownn]

When rogue pets dmg% boost will be fix??;/

[Thrindal]

How exactly is this thread "Official"?

[Arrowz]

Ik this was meant to nerf endgame rogues, but now at twink lvls warriors are op in all game modes.

[Xpolosion]

Make warriors bulwark curse a rare proc that's all

[Anarchist]

How exactly is this thread "Official"?
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[butterspar]

What do you think?

I Believe that is unfair and now mages are more strong, I want a damage adjustments for mages!
Nerf the weakest class in the game, gg

[Gess]

Were rogues underpowered in ctf? I don't think so. Now TDM is just the same as ctf, right? I don't see how that could cause any problems to rogues.

[rhomjhie]

Instead of nerfing anyone , why not just increase the total damage reduction on a pvp map ?

Leave the stats as is ! With the recent update ! I regret putting my 5 skill points on passive damage.

[dannyrse]

This isnt good for low lvl rogues now tanks hav more dmg and hp how they supposed to win??

[Sfubi]

I suggest this tread be deleted and recreated. The majority of the comments are about other classes as well as mostly useless.

The title of this thread is "PvP class Rogue damage adjustments in Team Death" Not "Suggested improvements or reductions for Mages and Warriors"

[obee]

This isnt good for low lvl rogues now tanks hav more dmg and hp how they supposed to win??
Rogues always win....Mages are the ones being killed over here

[Idly]

I suggest this tread be deleted and recreated. The majority of the comments are about other classes as well as mostly useless.

The title of this thread is "PvP class Rogue damage adjustments in Team Death" Not "Suggested improvements or reductions for Mages and Warriors"

And the OP says 'I want a damage adjustment for mages'

[Hail]

I havent been in tdm since we were nerfed (I play rogue at lv9) but unless the damage % from our pets is fixed, it only seems fair that this nerf should have been postponed until this problem was fixed. Mages and Warriors now have more damage in both ctf and tdm than rogues, how is that fair? I guess I will be using my tank more often now.

As for a higher level rogues perspective I understand why we were nerfed but still 20% and no pet dmg % is quite a bit of damage.

[Arrowz]

Rogues always win....Mages are the ones being killed over here

Lol i guess u dont play twinks lvls. Warriors op all game modes now

[obee]

Lol i guess u dont play twinks lvls. Warriors op all game modes now
Lol. What I'm saying is MAGES are always underpowerd

[Bigboyblue]

I keep reading a lot of comments mentioning that mages and tanks have more damage than their rogue counterparts. While it may appear that way looking at a persons stats, go into CTF or TDM and see who actually does more damage. I can tell you that a rogue hits far harder with their skills than a mage, even if the mage has higher damage on the stat sheet.

[Hail]

I keep reading a lot of comments mentioning that mages and tanks have more damage than their rogue counterparts. While it may appear that way looking at a persons stats, go into CTF or TDM and see who actually does more damage. I can tell you that a rogue hits far harder with their skills than a mage, even if the mage has higher damage on the stat sheet.

I play rogue in ctf with about 67 damage, this is going up against warriors with +2k health and roughly 80damage (best gears) and mages that can reach over 90 damage lol. Rogue has to really really really rely on crits nowadays. Not really fair tbh lol

[Bigboyblue]

I play rogue in ctf with about 67 damage, this is going up against warriors with +2k health and roughly 80damage (best gears) and mages that can reach over 90 damage lol. Rogue has to really really really rely on crits nowadays. Not really fair tbh lol

I have a level 11 warrior. I am not overpowering any rogues at that level. It is a pretty good match up between those two classes. I can win or lose any given versus depending on the skill level of the person I am going against(both no heal because with packs and HoR fights are endless). Luck plays a factor also, if I get a couple lucky stuns, or if the rogue gets some lucky crits the battle can sway in one persons favor. Mages are an absolute joke at that level. Their damage is higher than rogues at that level but they stand zero chance at actually beating any. Also they can't touch warriors.

I also have a level 7 rogue that has no problem killing warriors and mages. At this level I find rogues and warriors are equal. I can kill a warrior and they can kill me. Mages once again are a joke. They can't beat me or warriors.

Not sure what level you are twinking at(I assume level 10 or so based on your damage stat) but the levels I'm in this nerf didn't matter.

[Hail]

I have a level 11 warrior. I am not overpowering any rogues at that level. It is a pretty good match up between those two classes. I can win or lose any given versus depending on the skill level of the person I am going against(both no heal because with packs and HoR fights are endless). Luck plays a factor also, if I get a couple lucky stuns, or if the rogue gets some lucky crits the battle can sway in one persons favor. Mages are an absolute joke at that level. Their damage is higher than rogues at that level but they stand zero chance at actually beating any. Also they can't touch warriors.

I also have a level 7 rogue that has no problem killing warriors and mages. At this level I find rogues and warriors are equal. I can kill a warrior and they can kill me. Mages once again are a joke. They can't beat me or warriors.

Not sure what level you are twinking at(I assume level 10 or so based on your damage stat) but the levels I'm in this nerf didn't matter.

I got 2 level 9s. Rogue with 1.6k hp and 67dmg in ctf and my warrior has 2.7k hp and 75-80dmg with captains axe (85 max with maul).
That difference is crazy unfair imo

[Excuses]

Asking rogues pure dmg back sound like mages asking stuns back without immune and warriors asking shields back for every heals to me.

Let's have them back all? Lol


And I personally mainly play twinks too, but I agree that pvp balance standard should be on end game, not twinks.
Learn to play your class.

[Chrisaetoshawker]

Learn to play your class.

:banana: :banana:

[UndeadJudge]

I havent been in tdm since we were nerfed (I play rogue at lv9) but unless the damage % from our pets is fixed, it only seems fair that this nerf should have been postponed until this problem was fixed. Mages and Warriors now have more damage in both ctf and tdm than rogues, how is that fair? I guess I will be using my tank more often now.

As for a higher level rogues perspective I understand why we were nerfed but still 20% and no pet dmg % is quite a bit of damage.

Quite a bit of damage is 1 shot kills...and if you feel rogues are unbalanced at your level then just clash instead of 1v1. Mages can't really aim their skills, use it to your advantage.


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[Quickrr]

What do you think?

I Believe that is unfair and now mages are more strong, I want a damage adjustments for mages!
The mages and warriors wouldn't understand lol

[lowratehitman]

Silentvvind lvl13 twink roghere tbh I can only win a vs against war if I'm near to a mana pack... And war has so much health and armor and now with the new pet the DMG that they have increased ten-fold its very hard to win...and with the mages that i have in countered when I'm doing solo, roaming around I notice that mages with the new pet are op if they know how to use it and timing it... Their shield OMG! its like a lvl20 shield that you can't brake.. Also mages that uses arcane pet such us singe is just way to op...with the curse and stun and the high DMG do to the singe buff is just way way to op

[lowratehitman]

Anyways it's my experience when I'm doing PvP when they implemented this Nerf bs

[Kakashis]

Rogues still hit plenty hard after 10% less damage. Still OP.

[shiabel]

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[debitmandiri]

Just give mage rogue's aim crit
More absorb shield. Anti stun skill. War's jugg.
And everybody happy :)

[Soundlesskill]

Give everyone a fair chance, reduce the difference between pinks, mythics and arcanes.