Level ranges are too wide!

[Protank]

This thread is old news and I can't believe it's still on the front page..

Join game lvls. PvP. To many different lvls in one game or not.?

That is the topic.

[Kujen]

Agreed. I've posted before in suggestions about level restrictions that could be set by hosts. I started twinking but don't PVP much because my lvl 15 gets stomped on by lvl 20s and the lvl 10s complain about me doing the same to them lol. I wish I could just play against 15 or 14-16 if I choose to.

Anyway, not sure they'll be changing this right now. But they have said that there will be a PVP overhaul in the future that includes official spacetime matches. Maybe more specific level ranges will be part of it.

[Protank]

yes that would be awesome. hope this comes with 1.7!

[Protank]

20 views and only one comment.. ugh
come on guys speak up. they listen trust me :)

[Kossi]

if you take down pvp ranges, pvp will be officially dead, but you can make up for it by:

making great pvp rewards (untradeable)
new pvp bosses: drop items
pvp townes (FREE FOR ALL MUAHAHAHAHAHA)
pvp quests
achievements that include pvp
making pvp more talent-based

[Sanatorium]

Hopefully with the new 1.7 update you could put the levels of player from min to max that can join your pvp game when you host it.
But I agree, I always go up against 8-10's on my level 5 twink -.-.

[Rebel]

if you take down pvp ranges, pvp will be officially dead, but you can make up for it by:

making great pvp rewards (untradeable)
new pvp bosses: drop items
pvp townes (FREE FOR ALL MUAHAHAHAHAHA)
pvp quests
achievements that include pvp
making pvp more talent-based

Exactly. There just needs to be an incentive to play.

[Protank]

how would it die? plz explain.
imo most people who pvp are at set lvls. 50 35 30 20 15 10 5 1
all the other seem like casual players. I don't see how setting level requirements for a pvp game would kill it. I think it would make people want to get in on it more then anything

[Tsarra]

pvp townes (FREE FOR ALL MUAHAHAHAHAHA)

I could see myself dropping by PvPTowne after a terrible day at work...and I'm not a big PvPer. Sometimes, though...it's just nice to pound the crap out of someone. Lots of someones.

[Conradin]

I would love pvp Townes. A epic dirty free for all. But daayuum mages would ownn

[BeardedBear]

I agree, this is pretty bad. It's often I join a game and find people 10 lvls higher and lower than me. I thought it was only a 5 lvl difference?

[Manipally]

thats what i thought too till i was lvl 10 and fighting lvl 18-20's who rape the crap outta me..lol

[StompArtist]

thats what i thought too till i was lvl 10 and fighting lvl 18-20's who rape the crap outta me..lol

Mmmm rape is probably in violation of the TOS. :D

[Protank]

It's 5 levels from the person who made the map.
So if ur a lvl 15 and make a map, lvl 10-20 can join. If ur 20 and make a map, 15-25 can join and so on.

Just to big of a gap imo

[Thelonearcher]

I want one map were any level can join even if the kills don't count. Omg I can see it now. -faints-

[romgar1]

LOL lone. How bout hidding places for sneak attacks and in that map no names show above you head? Back on topic, I would LOVE to see an option where you can host a game and restrict or allow different lvls. For instance, you are lvl 10, and you make a map for say lvl 9,10, and 11 only.

[asommers]

The main reason we did this is to open the playing field. It used to be every 5 levels (1-4, 5-9, 10-14, 15-19, etc.) all the way to the level cap, which had just one level. Do you want to move back to that?

Any changes to the client would need to wait for 1.7.1 (or later). My suggestion could be done server-side.

-ALS

[Kujen]

I would like that. People might need to get used to certain twink levels but at least lvl 10s won't get stomped on by lvl 20s.

I dont know when y'all made that change, but keep in mind the population has grown a lot.

[Ladylove]

People always say level 35 is unfair... A level 30-34 stands a perfectly good chance against a 35... Heck, Twinktastic's level what? 27? Dealt me some severe damage on my 35 pure. Caught me by surprise.

[romgar1]

To answer Asommers question. Yes, personally i think 5 lvls is the largest lvl range one can normally be competitive. Im sure a very experienced well gear lvl 35 can best a poor geared new a pvp lvl 45, but thats not the norm.

[Ladylove]

To answer Asommers question. Yes, personally i think 5 lvls is the largest lvl range one can normally be competitive. Im sure a very experienced well gear lvl 35 can best a poor geared new a pvp lvl 45, but thats not the norm.

I can bahahaha

[Zeus]

I can bahahaha

As can I :)

[Hekpoc]

As can I :)

The question is can I? :-P

[Protank]

Hmm I think 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20 and so on would be alot better. And i mean alot better. but if it's how u said asommers "1-4, 5-9, 10-14, 15-19" and so on, I'm not so sure if people would like that at all. Only because that it seems the nice item lvls 10 15 20 25 30 and on and on all going up in 5's and 10's and thats mainly the most popular pvp lvls. Although I sure do miss my level 19 I don't think to many others do..

Off topic I havnt deleted my 19 bear if anybody still has a 19 and wants to battle, pm me xD

[Protaris]

I have the solution,

Update 1.8:
- open world
- 2 factions
- open PvP (faction vs. faction)

:-D

i know i have a great fantasy

[KaotiicxDream]

This is more an idea under the feedback and so category...

[Kalielle]

My level 15 twink was in pvp last night with some level 15 friends and a level 6 joined. I was surprised that he could even join our game, and of course he didn't stand a chance. It seemed unfair towards him, and especially if the person was a true newbie -- what an intro to pvp for them.


Hmm I think 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20 and so on would be alot better.

I too think this would make more sense than 1-4, 5-9 etc especially now that a lot of twink gear is at 10, 15 etc ever since the Winter Festival.

[StompArtist]

I have the solution,

Update 1.8:
- open world
- 2 factions
- open PvP (faction vs. faction)

:-D

i know i have a great fantasy

Pocket wars! Who will you join?

[TwinkTastical]

my 27 beats 80% of 35s ;)

[Hekpoc]

my 27 beats 80% of 35s ;)

I was surprised :) when i saw that.

[Protank]

my 27 beats 80% of 35s ;)

Yes I don't doubt that statement at all. Not surprised. U twink, are not the norm. Not many if any can do what u do with ur twinks.

So I'm thinking just leave pvp lvl range how it is and let the devs add the option for the hosts to set the level range in 1.7.1 or 1.8 I'm cool with that. What do u guys think?

I been pvp'n my 50s since I made this thread and been having a blast. My bear is hard to kill but it's really hard to get kills. My bird kills most super fast but theres so many good players out there I have more deaths then kills. My pally is a beast and as long as I don't oom myself I kill most and don't die. I'm such a noob at 50 pvp but having great time learning xD

Plz post feedback on the pvp lvl ranges guys! Thx!

[Zerious]

I would love pvp Townes. A epic dirty free for all. But daayuum mages would ownn

actually they'd get creamed...

But I agree with everything Kossi has said, except pvp dying:
Twinks would start hosting their own games without having to worry about anit-twinks joining to ruin the fun. And lower levels should be facing people 6 levels higher than them at most. So instead of a 10 level range (example: level 15 host allows lvls 10-20) there should be a 6 level bracket (level 15 host allows lvls 12-18). If this isn't enough, then people need to stop joining game levels that are higher than their character's level. If you complain about fighting people that are 10 levels higher than you, it's because you're too IGNORANT to pay attention to the host's level.

[DontNerfMeBro]

It's 5 levels from the person who made the map.
So if ur a lvl 15 and make a map, lvl 10-20 can join. If ur 20 and make a map, 15-25 can join and so on.

Just to big of a gap imo

Eureka! The precise answer to my question regarding lvl ranges! ty

[Protank]

. If you complain about fighting people that are 10 levels higher than you, it's because you're too IGNORANT to pay attention to the host's level.

Herwolf, why start name calling? I like fighting lvl 15's on my lvl 10 dexbear. I think it's a lil more balanced then fighting lvl 10s with him cuz he op imo. All I'm saying is it suks when lv20's come in and smash us all.
I'm not ignorant but now i think u might be...

[noobmigo]

don't the ref drop his sword rarely?

[BeardedBear]

Hmm I think 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20 and so on would be alot better. And i mean alot better. but if it's how u said asommers "1-4, 5-9, 10-14, 15-19" and so on, I'm not so sure if people would like that at all. Only because that it seems the nice item lvls 10 15 20 25 30 and on and on all going up in 5's and 10's and thats mainly the most popular pvp lvls. Although I sure do miss my level 19 I don't think to many others do..

Off topic I havnt deleted my 19 bear if anybody still has a 19 and wants to battle, pm me xD

I dunno Tank, I prefer Asommers lvls better, for many reasons. Having 19s and 20's together is a bad idea. Barely anyone uses lvl 19s anymore because it's easier to get lvl 20 gear as well as being much, much more powerful. That goes for any x9 and x0 lvl being together. Every 5 lvls (typically) introduces better equips and it's best to keep them all apart, not blend them together. I thought the point was to make things more balanced?

[Protank]

This is tru bearedbear that's why on that other post I said just leave it how it is untill host can set lvl requirements in 1.7.1 or 1.8 or something

[FluffNStuff]

In 1.7, we are supposed to be able to specify the limit for a hosting map. Maybe we could do that in PVP, like if you are ten, then you could limit it to 8-12, or even just 10.

[Protank]

Eureka! The precise answer to my question regarding lvl ranges! ty

Your welcome :)

[Mj0]

The main reason we did this is to open the playing field. It used to be every 5 levels (1-4, 5-9, 10-14, 15-19, etc.) all the way to the level cap, which had just one level. Do you want to move back to that?

Any changes to the client would need to wait for 1.7.1 (or later). My suggestion could be done server-side.

-ALS

personally I would like this much more :)

i'm quite new, and i'm only level 30 with my main... but I expereinced what the OP said and it's quite frustrating :P