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Ogani
10-10-2014, 12:05 AM
Ok...sts...people complained about the curse on the bulwark. You have gone to far thou. You have now made the weapon worse than before. It is one of the lowest damage weapon. This weapon was just 18m. You had people save for it and grind so hard. The nerf was to much. You must fix this. You truly have messed up most warriors in this game. We could still be beat and you have now made pvp even more unbalanced. So you listened to them when they complained. This has to be some type of fraud. Just because a group of players don't like the weapon or ability it doesn't mean you completely destroy it. Please fix what you have done.

SacredKnight
10-10-2014, 12:21 AM
#BuffScorch2014

Robhawk
10-10-2014, 01:28 AM
Ok...sts...people complained about the curse on the bulwark. You have gone to far thou. You have now made the weapon worse than before. It is one of the lowest damage weapon. This weapon was just 18m. You had people save for it and grind so hard. The nerf was to much. You must fix this. You truly have messed up most warriors in this game. We could still be beat and you have now made pvp even more unbalanced. So you listened to them when they complained. This has to be some type of fraud. Just because a group of players don't like the weapon or ability it doesn't mean you completely destroy it. Please fix what you have done.

Dude, that weapon never should have mages strongest skill with no cooldown! Although im with you that the weapon is weak... it just needs a buff in damage BUT NO MAGE SKILL... or do you see any mage weapon with juggernaut or VB? NO? ...

So bulwark back to "normal", maul nerfed -> get a glaive/bonesaw !!!

Ravager
10-10-2014, 02:29 AM
Ok...sts...people complained about the curse on the bulwark. You have gone to far thou. You have now made the weapon worse than before. It is one of the lowest damage weapon. This weapon was just 18m. You had people save for it and grind so hard. The nerf was to much. You must fix this. You truly have messed up most warriors in this game. We could still be beat and you have now made pvp even more unbalanced. So you listened to them when they complained. This has to be some type of fraud. Just because a group of players don't like the weapon or ability it doesn't mean you completely destroy it. Please fix what you have done.

Dude, that weapon never should have mages strongest skill with no cooldown! Although im with you that the weapon is weak... it just needs a buff in damage BUT NO MAGE SKILL... or do you see any mage weapon with juggernaut or VB? NO? ...

So bulwark back to "normal", maul nerfed -> get a glaive/bonesaw !!!

Maybe mages skills are easy to implement for them. Mythic daggers proc something similar to an uncharged shield.

Going back to glaive is the sad option here. How would rogues and mages feel of they had to go back to their 36 mythics?

Instanthumor
10-10-2014, 02:34 AM
Maybe mages skills are easy to implement for them. Mythic daggers proc something similar to an uncharged shield.

Going back to glaive is the sad option here. How would rogues and mages feel of they had to go back to their 36 mythics?

At least your 36 was good... BOTH our 36 sucked

aarrgggggg
10-11-2014, 11:26 AM
Dude, that weapon never should have mages strongest skill with no cooldown! Although im with you that the weapon is weak... it just needs a buff in damage BUT NO MAGE SKILL... or do you see any mage weapon with juggernaut or VB? NO? ...

So bulwark back to "normal", maul nerfed -> get a glaive/bonesaw !!!
Maul was never nerfed...... now it follows the seven second stun immunity rule.....thats it.
Now if only they would apply this same rule to panic/terrify pet aa's

Caabatric
10-11-2014, 04:36 PM
Bulwark does need a slight buff but doesn't need to be given a mage skill.
After all bulwark is a pve based weapon not a pvp based weapon. (maybe can add some dmg)
And i have never seen a mage beat a bulwark war during the buff even with a no dot build.

Ebezaanec
10-11-2014, 05:08 PM
The bulwark buff added to the overall imbalance of classes. Its current nerf did nothing to imbalance other than causing warriors to lose money and revert back to glaive/maul. Same scenario as it was for months.

To me, this perception of "extra imbalance" should be focused on reevaluating other classes. Btw, That group of players you are referring to is a WHOLE class.

Ogani
10-15-2014, 03:20 PM
Ok yes a slight nerf would have been fine. Cursing with every charged swing was rough but this was not just a slight nerf. And second of all you talk of class imbalance... This is not because of the bulwark. Because even in pvp both teams have them. Not only that but we still die. Bulwark doesn't make you invincible. The damage is garbage. This was a bad move. Still believe it needs to be fixed because they crushed the weapon.

Ogani
10-15-2014, 03:25 PM
Bottom line you didn't need to destroy our weapon...you need to buff our mages.

InternetExplorer
10-15-2014, 04:12 PM
Waiting patiently for the " assessment and rebuff " of the weapon

Pacmanx
10-16-2014, 03:45 AM
Waiting patiently for the " assessment and rebuff " of the weapon

lmao UR not alone

beezulbulb
10-20-2014, 06:24 AM
How long will we have to wait??.

Raselph
10-20-2014, 06:28 AM
it goes like this:

CYCLE OF CORRUPTION:

a new weapon / range of weapons is made

if good // no complains

ELSE

if bad:

too many complains

NERFING COMPLETE

PRICES>>LOW

beezulbulb
10-20-2014, 06:32 AM
How long will we have to wait??.
I am so disappointed in the bulwark. I saved for many months and bought one hoping I would finally have a weapon that could deal punishment and hold its own during endgame only to find out it is garbage. Then it got buffed and I was happier. Then it got nerfed and I was disappointed once again. Just take the shield away and pump it full of damage and make it an offensive weapon like EVERY other weapon in ALL is...drop some hp and armor. Everyone wants kills and no one wants to stand in the background watching others wield powerful weapons...just saying. Please fix the bulwark once and for all. I love the game and was truly hurt with the evolution of this weapon.
Hope to see something good happen to it soon.

Raselph
10-20-2014, 06:35 AM
How long will we have to wait??.
I am so disappointed in the bulwark. I saved for many months and bought one hoping I would finally have a weapon that could deal punishment and hold its own during endgame only to find out it is garbage. Then it got buffed and I was happier. Then it got nerfed and I was disappointed once again. Just take the shield away and pump it full of damage and make it an offensive weapon like EVERY other weapon in ALL is...drop some hp and armor. Everyone wants kills and no one wants to stand in the background watching others wield powerful weapons...just saying. Please fix the bulwark once and for all. I love the game and was truly hurt with the evolution of this weapon.
Hope to see something good happen to it soon.

often in satisfactory there is disappointment which i TOTALLY understand...apologies....

InternetExplorer
10-20-2014, 06:49 AM
lmao UR not alone

Im done waiting! i moved from bulwark to glavie then bulwark again. Even if i have another bulwark i wont expect any rebuff from STS ( i do have a screenshot about the bulwark buff and the NO plans to buff it thing ). So for me, if they rebuff, thank you, if not, its STS, perhaps it will always be like this.

The coming mythics?? hmmm nevermind. LOL

Raselph
10-20-2014, 06:51 AM
Im done waiting! i moved from bulwark to glavie then bulwark again. Even if i have another bulwark i wont expect any rebuff from STS ( i do have a screenshot about the bulwark buff and the NO plans to buff it thing ). So for me, if they rebuff, thank you, if not, its STS, perhaps it will always be like this.

The coming mythics?? hmmm nevermind. LOL

we so far do not know or have any info , as far as we can guess-estimate they will be better than the previous ones!

beezulbulb
10-20-2014, 07:41 AM
Most anything will be better then the bulwark. ..lol.....hopefully sts will rebuff it. I cannot see why they wouldn't. Anyone can see it is an inferior weapon.

beezulbulb
10-20-2014, 07:44 AM
The way the game has evolved since the trusty pavise was brought out at lvl 31 demands offensive weapons now. Think days of defensive weapons are over. Just look at the super high dmg and dps in everything else nowadays

Alhuntrazeck
10-20-2014, 09:59 AM
How's this -

A change from the curse proc (which is anyway too rare now to be useful) to an armor debuff with the same proc rate as other mythic weapons' procs. -25% armor sounds nice.

This way, you will be able to inflict more damage on the enemy.

The 100% curse proc was IMO a glitch; it is, after all, a proc: Pogrammed Random OCcurrence; it should never have a 100% chance to be cast.

Also, the armor of the weapon could be lowered slightly and damage raised slightly to compensate. No one wants insanely high-armor and high-HP warriors WITH high damage to run around PvP!

beezulbulb
10-20-2014, 10:39 AM
Sounds fair to me. I dont need to be walking around with 2.5 armor or even 7.3 hp anyway...give it more dmg and throw the curse proc out the window

InternetExplorer
10-20-2014, 02:38 PM
Hey guys,

Theres a discussion here http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?180337-Bulwark-s-feedback-nerf-nerf-nerf-more about the bulwark..