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notfaded1
11-12-2014, 10:14 PM
It's because the game is almost unplayable!

Headline: guess what without farmers running elites creating gold you see what happens?

I started thinking through what could cause this much problem this fast in the game economy?
Everyone spent all their gold during event? NO! That's not it!

It's the game failing to be playable. Farmers can't run elites and guess what? They play a very very important part in this economy... they create gold.

So 2 things: Farmers don't ever think u don't matter... and...

STS fix the dang game! It's killing the game fast!

obee
11-12-2014, 10:18 PM
We need something to revive elites, because it's pretty boring.

Candylicks
11-12-2014, 10:19 PM
I can't believe that sts has allowed this to perpetuate for so long. The game is 100% broken we can't run at all! there are hundreds of threads on it. I'm tired of hearing to try a different connection or it's in our end.

Wrong.

We can't play the game that we love and it's destroying the economy and community.

Please fix this. Please be more open to what's going on, we all feel like we are in limbo. You guys should be in the game and chat box way more than you are addressing these issues and making it right.

Feels like we are abandoned here with arcane legends.

cjswogkstkdg
11-12-2014, 10:20 PM
its true.. lol no one wants to farm, justs merch their butt off

Candylicks
11-12-2014, 10:21 PM
its true.. lol no one wants to farm, justs merch their butt off

We can't farm. You can't run an elite map w/o disconnect.

cjswogkstkdg
11-12-2014, 10:23 PM
We can't farm. You can't run an elite map w/o disconnect.

ah.. lol

Zeus
11-12-2014, 10:41 PM
It's terrible. It is not my internet either! I have a high bandwidth, high speed service that's usually stable around 120 mpbs download & 30 mpbs upload.

obee
11-12-2014, 10:46 PM
It's terrible. It is not my internet either! I have a high bandwidth, high speed service that's usually stable around 120 mpbs download & 30 mpbs upload.
If Zeus is lagging, something is terribly wrong.

Arachnophobik
11-12-2014, 10:48 PM
Say it with me, we matter! Cmon louder WE MATTER!!! I havent farmed for weeks due to these dcds!!

CAK Vader
11-12-2014, 10:51 PM
Ok, my internet on al was just fine until today, it started suddenly while I was running the tombs, as of today I can not complete one full run without ping over 100,000 followed by a disconnection. And btw my internet is FANTASTIC, not on my end.

CheifR
11-12-2014, 11:32 PM
I can't believe that sts has allowed this to perpetuate for so long. The game is 100% broken we can't run at all! there are hundreds of threads on it. I'm tired of hearing to try a different connection or it's in our end.

Wrong.

We can't play the game that we love and it's destroying the economy and community.

Please fix this. Please be more open to what's going on, we all feel like we are in limbo. You guys should be in the game and chat box way more than you are addressing these issues and making it right.

Feels like we are abandoned here with arcane legends.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/12/109dfdb975f3c37ed382f829839ad190.jpg ik its off topic but saw your toon sleeping :3

Candylicks
11-12-2014, 11:33 PM
Yeah I was in tell hell tonight.... Sorry if I missed anyone who tried to talk to me. :/

Raselph
11-12-2014, 11:58 PM
It's because the game is almost unplayable!

Headline: guess what without farmers running elites creating gold you see what happens?

I started thinking through what could cause this much problem this fast in the game economy?
Everyone spent all their gold during event? NO! That's not it!

It's the game failing to be playable. Farmers can't run elites and guess what? They play a very very important part in this economy... they create gold.

So 2 things: Farmers don't ever think u don't matter... and...

STS fix the dang game! It's killing the game fast!

okay , this is my main article on my Draft ALNews...

radagan
11-12-2014, 11:58 PM
You are right,

Raselph
11-13-2014, 12:00 AM
Yeah I was in tell hell tonight.... Sorry if I missed anyone who tried to talk to me. :/

hahaha candy i can catch you easy, you didnt say " hi cler" or "hi hi hi" as usually u respond to me! i caught you way fast than any!!

P.S> gimme some candy :3

Anarchist
11-13-2014, 12:11 AM
It's because the game is almost unplayable!

Headline: guess what without farmers running elites creating gold you see what happens?

I started thinking through what could cause this much problem this fast in the game economy?
Everyone spent all their gold during event? NO! That's not it!

It's the game failing to be playable. Farmers can't run elites and guess what? They play a very very important part in this economy... they create gold.

So 2 things: Farmers don't ever think u don't matter... and...

STS fix the dang game! It's killing the game fast!

Even when you don't get disconnected, what is there that worths farming except dragonite bars?

New contents unfortunately are reserved for a small % of the player base that can afford to waste ankhs and elixirs without gettin anything in exchange, the struggle is real.

Arpluvial
11-13-2014, 12:39 AM
Hey guys,

I have cleaned up this thread and moved this thread to the AL Suggestions and Feedback section. Remember to keep it constructive and friendly. :)

Serancha
11-13-2014, 01:52 AM
It's because the game is almost unplayable!

Headline: guess what without farmers running elites creating gold you see what happens?

I started thinking through what could cause this much problem this fast in the game economy?
Everyone spent all their gold during event? NO! That's not it!

It's the game failing to be playable. Farmers can't run elites and guess what? They play a very very important part in this economy... they create gold.

So 2 things: Farmers don't ever think u don't matter... and...

STS fix the dang game! It's killing the game fast!

Are you android? I seem to be one of the few without issues, and am on ipad mini...

Instanthumor
11-13-2014, 02:25 AM
Are you android? I seem to be one of the few without issues, and am on ipad mini...

I'm also not having connection/dc issues. iPad as well.

My league of legends name is jackmihada add me.

Magegrimm
11-13-2014, 02:35 AM
Please sts FIX THE GAME I don't have much dc problems as other players do but I dc every now and then...
I'm not totally sure if the game is "completely" broken

epicrrr
11-13-2014, 03:40 AM
Someone is or are in need of more sleep than gametime. :Banana:

Raselph
11-13-2014, 04:51 AM
Please sts FIX THE GAME I don't have much dc problems as other players do but I dc every now and then...
I'm not totally sure if the game is "completely" broken

if the game was totally broken...AL players would have retired...and we still in the forums alone cannot fix this...everyone has to contribute...

CAK Vader
11-13-2014, 07:48 AM
Are you android? I seem to be one of the few without issues, and am on ipad mini...

I'm iPad mini as well, same problems ;/

GoodSyntax
11-13-2014, 08:18 AM
I'm typically on PCs.....

DC from office PC. DC from home PC. DC from android phone. DC from android tablet.

This week, I may have completed a dozen (possibly two dozen at most) elite runs. I usually get in two dozen or more elite runs a day. This is so frusturating because these DCs are wasting time, pots, gold, elixirs, ankh and plat. It is affecting real world money and is putting strain on friendships and guild operations. At this point, we cannot recruit players because we can not take them into elites for test runs.

What's more frustrating is the countless threads and limited (if any) response from STS. This is a real issue, it is affecting thousands of players worldwide - not everyone's ISP can be lagging out at the same time all across the world.

If everyone is saying the test server is unplayable due to DCs, and everyone is saying that the live server is unplayabe due to DCs....well, it would be reasonable to think the issue resides in the server, not with the tens of thousands of players spread across the world.

At this point, if STS hasn't put trace logs into the server to figure out what is going on so it can be corrected, and continues the wall of silence and misdirection with regards to the numerous reports, then this is not the company I used to know and love and it is time for me to find a different, more supportive game.

I will give it a bit more time, but my patience has run out. Unless things turn completely around, I might very well hang it up when my plat runs out, because every time I'm running and burning up elixirs or revives only to be DC.....that is money and time better spent doing more productive things....like watching paint dry or grass grow.

I will refrain from describing my other issues with the game, since it, like all other issues, will go unnoticed and unacknowledged. These are tough times to be an old vet that remembers the way things used to be...

Candylicks
11-13-2014, 08:33 AM
At this point, if STS hasn't put trace logs into the server to figure out what is going on so it can be corrected, and continues the wall of silence and misdirection with regards to the numerous reports, then this is not the company I used to know and love and it is time for me to find a different, more supportive game.


IKR

It's the finger pointing back to the community that it's issues on our end that's rediculous.

notfaded1
11-13-2014, 10:00 AM
I'm typically on PCs.....

DC from office PC. DC from home PC. DC from android phone. DC from android tablet.

This week, I may have completed a dozen (possibly two dozen at most) elite runs. I usually get in two dozen or more elite runs a day. This is so frusturating because these DCs are wasting time, pots, gold, elixirs, ankh and plat. It is affecting real world money and is putting strain on friendships and guild operations. At this point, we cannot recruit players because we can not take them into elites for test runs.

What's more frustrating is the countless threads and limited (if any) response from STS. This is a real issue, it is affecting thousands of players worldwide - not everyone's ISP can be lagging out at the same time all across the world.

If everyone is saying the test server is unplayable due to DCs, and everyone is saying that the live server is unplayabe due to DCs....well, it would be reasonable to think the issue resides in the server, not with the tens of thousands of players spread across the world.

At this point, if STS hasn't put trace logs into the server to figure out what is going on so it can be corrected, and continues the wall of silence and misdirection with regards to the numerous reports, then this is not the company I used to know and love and it is time for me to find a different, more supportive game.

I will give it a bit more time, but my patience has run out. Unless things turn completely around, I might very well hang it up when my plat runs out, because every time I'm running and burning up elixirs or revives only to be DC.....that is money and time better spent doing more productive things....like watching paint dry or grass grow.

I will refrain from describing my other issues with the game, since it, like all other issues, will go unnoticed and unacknowledged. These are tough times to be an old vet that remembers the way things used to be...

^^^^ THIS!!! And without the only gold source in the game which comes from everyone running maps you can see really quickly how fast the entire system can crumble (this is what's wrong with the economy)... I like Kalizza love this game when it works. It gotten so bad like he said that we can't even recruit because when we try to run recruits in an elite map we can't even complete ONE! It's really hard not to just be sad because we have all invested a lot of time and money and want to see Arlor thrive!

Also like Kalizza I know it's not my connection period... I have a rock solid 50M pipe with very low latency. Heh Zeus is on a Gigabit connection directly to the internet at school and even he's DC'in... that should tell you something. They don't call it client/server for no reason... either side can be the source of the problem.

Leambow
11-13-2014, 11:01 AM
I agree, everytime I run with my friends my ping spikes dramatically.
Make me just want to shut game off.

Zeus
11-13-2014, 02:26 PM
^^^^ THIS!!! And without the only gold source in the game which comes from everyone running maps you can see really quickly how fast the entire system can crumble (this is what's wrong with the economy)... I like Kalizza love this game when it works. It gotten so bad like he said that we can't even recruit because when we try to run recruits in an elite map we can't even complete ONE! It's really hard not to just be sad because we have all invested a lot of time and money and want to see Arlor thrive!

Also like Kalizza I know it's not my connection period... I have a rock solid 50M pipe with very low latency. Heh Zeus is on a Gigabit connection directly to the internet at school and even he's DC'in... that should tell you something. They don't call it client/server for no reason... either side can be the source of the problem.

Yep, I've tested from both my home connection and my college connection. They are both very very fast, very high bandwidth services and extremely stable because they're also used for more important tasks than playing AL. I disconnect from all of them...any time there is a big pull or running 4 or more party members (if a dev is in the instance).

Kingofninjas
11-13-2014, 04:11 PM
We can't farm. You can't run an elite map w/o disconnect.

Even if you don't dc you reroll and get a 100k item. WOOOOT!

Arpluvial
11-13-2014, 04:13 PM
Hey guys!

I have cleaned up this thread a bit - let's make sure to keep it friendly, constructive, and forum appropriate.

Mortalninja
11-13-2014, 04:55 PM
I disconected during Halloween event LOTS OF TIMES!! and dc'ed like 10 times at Paracelsus :( FIX IT PLEASE!!

Raselph
11-13-2014, 07:38 PM
^^^^ THIS!!! And without the only gold source in the game which comes from everyone running maps you can see really quickly how fast the entire system can crumble (this is what's wrong with the economy)... I like Kalizza love this game when it works. It gotten so bad like he said that we can't even recruit because when we try to run recruits in an elite map we can't even complete ONE! It's really hard not to just be sad because we have all invested a lot of time and money and want to see Arlor thrive!

Also like Kalizza I know it's not my connection period... I have a rock solid 50M pipe with very low latency. Heh Zeus is on a Gigabit connection directly to the internet at school and even he's DC'in... that should tell you something. They don't call it client/server for no reason... either side can be the source of the problem.

hmmm...if i only knew the problems aren't from the internet connections...

jiph
11-14-2014, 01:00 AM
The economy is fine as it is. Those prices on cs are what they should be .what you want is to make the 130m you lost on all those arcane rings from plat farmers back then.it has pass almost 1 year and arcane ring still supposedly over price as hell. so your desperate to make gold and that's not happening any time soon. Because everyone is saving for a arcane ring to supposedly be more competitive in pvp till sts comes with a new mytick ring every one is gonna stop feeling like they must get a arcane ring and that's not happening any time soon either .NERF ARCANE RING take out the +30 primary Stats it gives. problem solved

mightymynk
11-14-2014, 02:01 AM
i agree game is dying. actually the game used to work pretty good with a balance between farming users and platinum users when maybe 60-70 percent user farmed and rest 30 percent open locks and used plats. many merched that time too but actually farming was very good at that time. which time? i am talking about 3-4 season back at nordr and 31 being cap. at that time many players farmed and farmable items were good too, but now sts has made the game more towards platinum and premium stuff focused and less farmable which makes most of people either open locks to be rich or just pure merch and farming is not even able to make peoples daily gold needs as a result much more people have shifted to merch, and due to lack of farming no new items come in market to merch.

just try to compare what we had at nordr cap and how we used to play then to the gameplay of now.

we had so many things to farm at that time like malison egg, vixen egg and elite bosses like bael 2 and krunch 2. thse are just extinct now. people even used to farm small eggs like loki and kettle because they were good and valuable. i agree they lost their value as new content come but the problem is that the new content which came was more of platinum focused and less farmable.
we only have archon rings to farm now. i appreciate the introduction of new elite tombs which has much to farm but still we r dcing which makes it of no use and we still need more farming stuff

Goodhabbit
11-14-2014, 03:21 AM
my guild is elite runners, and our guild supposedly to have elites everywhere... but what i saw today, is that people are just standing up in the city and wait for the fix, we can't even finish the 1st pull without getting dced. We even experience that all of dced at the same time. Pls fix this sts, many ppl are quitting this game already because of this lag issues. We even have a joek to rename the guild to 'elite disconnecter'... fix this sts, i quit this game in the middle of halloween event and i log on today, expecting that the game stability improve but what i saw is really DISAPPOINTING.

ueveotadeo
11-17-2014, 10:19 AM
Didnt u read what samhayene wrote?

Its the dam cats that are killing the game....steping on ppl tablets and routers....i say call animal control fast!

Remiem
11-17-2014, 01:01 PM
We're working on improving game stability as I type. It's all hands on deck over here to get it resolved ASAP. Samhayne will be making an announcement about it shortly. Thank you for baring with us while we work on these nasty little kinks.

Raselph
11-18-2014, 11:40 PM
We're working on improving game stability as I type. It's all hands on deck over here to get it resolved ASAP. Samhayne will be making an announcement about it shortly. Thank you for baring with us while we work on these nasty little kinks.

ya knw what...i feel a DC virus has taken birth...i get DC at the same spot...every 5 mins...in tindirin i barely last for 10 seconds...and in guild hall im lag proof....

xutreuqux
11-20-2014, 07:45 AM
I rarely ever farmed but i still feel bugged with this. I am a merchant. I sell things i got from events when it gets expensive. But soon i realized that ppl r gettin poor without elite farmers. Prices r high but low demand. Elite farmers r very important coz they buy stuff from each other and buy things they cant get from us. With them getting poor nobody buys stuff in auc and everyone finally gets poor. Except the lockers and plat farmers of course lol

xutreuqux
11-20-2014, 07:50 AM
I rarely ever farmed but i still feel bugged with this. I am a merchant. I sell things i got from events when it gets expensive. But soon i realized that ppl r gettin poor without elite farmers. Prices r high but low demand. Elite farmers r very important coz they buy stuff from each other and buy things they cant get from us. With them getting poor nobody buys stuff in auc and everyone finally gets poor. Except the lockers and plat farmers of course lol

The other thing that caused ppl to b poor is inflation of elite items bcoz demand stays the same and supply goes down. So the money from the elite stuff sales goes to the farmers and stops there bcoz they cant farm anymore.

uen
11-24-2014, 11:03 PM
Ewww AL jk lol

XfrostfireX
11-25-2014, 04:59 AM
I stopped farming because its near impossible to reroll anymore. All i ever reroll is blue and green. Its annoying when i spend money on loot elix then get nothing for it. The reroll system needs to be slightly bumped. I do understand that if every reroll was what someone wanted it would kill game. But when i farm km3 for an hour with elix and leprechaun pendant and dont get a locked crate it is a bit much.

CheifR
11-25-2014, 08:35 AM
I stopped farming because its near impossible to reroll anymore. All i ever reroll is blue and green. Its annoying when i spend money on loot elix then get nothing for it. The reroll system needs to be slightly bumped. I do understand that if every reroll was what someone wanted it would kill game. But when i farm km3 for an hour with elix and leprechaun pendant and dont get a locked crate it is a bit much.
+1.

lowratehitman
11-25-2014, 10:56 AM
I'm not lagging when ever I'm in planar

CheifR
11-26-2014, 12:48 AM
I'm not lagging when ever I'm in planar
Gratz. Select few

Tranquilizers
11-26-2014, 08:19 AM
Ste must clean some players i siggest that all of the player that did not reach lvl cap will be remove in this game (exept for twinks

Justg
11-26-2014, 09:32 AM
Hey guys, we think we have addressed some major lag and DC issues and hopefully you are able to farm like nobody's business. Let us know how the service is working here: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?189098-Service-Stabilization-Update-11-26-14&p=1929023#post1929023

Ssneakykills
11-26-2014, 11:04 AM
No real certain chance of any thing good after farming but I step in the right place would be something like a certain tooth after running tiridin or something along those lines or make some of the best gear droppable from elites

aquascaper
11-26-2014, 08:24 PM
Because the Arlors are returning xD