Confused

[Ssneakykills]

This is my damage in a pvp game

109201


Second pic is of me in a town

109200


I'm confused to why my damage is so much lower in a game and no in a town?

[kinzmet]

I'm confused too. You said that the second picture is on town but it had "Get Ready! Match Starts in 5 Seconds!" on it. :confused:

[Madnex]

There's an unresolved issue with Rogue's damage buffs not being calculated due to the PvP zones' 10% damage debuff which overrides everything. So yeah, your damage is 20% lower in TDM/CTF.

[Appeltjes]

I'm confused too. You said that the second picture is on town but it had "Get Ready! Match Starts in 5 Seconds!" on it. :confused:

He might've switched them around, to the op rogues are nerfed in pvp (ctf).

[Callmemr]

I think the first pic is in town.
Didn't sts once say in a post that rogue's damage get nerfed in pvp?
I think they did.

[Ssneakykills]

Yeah sorry meant my damage was higher in a town than a pvp game

[Idly]

The second pic is in a pvp map, rogues get a 10-15% (i think) damage nerf in pvp. Not sure but I think tanks get a 5% buff too. Mages get.... farmed huhu

[kinzmet]

He might've switched them around, to the op rogues are nerfed in pvp (ctf).

I figured he did switched them :). But rogues are not OP in twink levels, only on endgames. From his photo, he only got 1.5k health and less than 600 armor not so OP. The damage nerf for rogues should only be for the endgames or at least not to twinks below 20. But thats another topic.

[Ssneakykills]

I figured he did switched them :). But rogues are not OP in twink levels, only on endgames. From his photo, he only got 1.5k health and less than 600 armor not so OP. The nerf for rogues should only be for the endgames or at least no on below 20 twinks. But thats another topic.

Tbh I find myself quite op at times for a rogue even if I use dova Instead of Sam and not use para gems

[kinzmet]

Tbh I find myself quite op at times for a rogue even if I use dova Instead of Sam and not use para gems

Well being OP at times is what being what a rogue for. But OP in endgame is 1-hit-kill or 1-combo-kill an equally geared opponent, definately not happening in twinks specially below level 20.

[Ssneakykills]

Well being OP at times is what being what a rogue for. But OP in endgame is 1-hit-kill or 1-combo-kill an equally geared opponent, definately not happening in twinks specially below level 20.

Yeah the I can imagine 1 hit kills to be very annoying at endgame

[kinzmet]

Yeah the I can imagine 1 hit kills to be very annoying at endgame

Thats why they had to nerf them, unfortunately twinks suffered the nerf too :( which is not for them.

[Psychologist]

I have 450 damage in town, around 340 in PvP. I'm not really liking it, haha. :p

[Ssneakykills]

Thats why they had to nerf them, unfortunately twinks suffered the nerf too :( which is not for them.

That sucks lol

[Samhayne]

There's an unresolved issue with Rogue's damage buffs not being calculated due to the PvP zones' 10% damage debuff which overrides everything. So yeah, your damage is 20% lower in TDM/CTF.

The reduction to Rogues is intentional. We use damage overrides to help with balance between PvP and PvE.

[Madnex]

The reduction to Rogues is intentional. We use damage overrides to help with balance between PvP and PvE.
Perhaps I didn't phrase it well. The adjustment of PvP damage and healing scalars is intentional; the side effects that nullify any buff of the same type are the acknowledged yet unresolved issue.


Thanks for the help! I'll check out what I can - I know that at least we will be looking into changing how buff/debuff stacking works.

More information on topic:
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?157892

[Arrowz]

Rogues recieve a 10 percent dmg debuff once they enter pvp, and since debuffs cancel any buff this means u get no bonus from ur pets dmg percent. So in towns u basicly have 110% of ur base dmg due to the dmg percent buff from samael. Once u enter pvp u lose ur dmg buff then u lose an additional 10 percent dmg which brings u down to 90 percent of your base dmg so ur really losing 20/110 X 100 % =18.18182 percent of your town dmg. So if you multiply (1-.18182)(160.8) you get 131.5. Well actually its 131.56 but this game rounds down so. Hope this clarifies :)

[Farz]

Rogues recieve a 10 percent dmg debuff once they enter pvp, and since debuffs cancel any buff this means u get no bonus from ur pets dmg percent. So in towns u basicly have 110% of ur base dmg due to the dmg percent buff from samael. Once u enter pvp u lose ur dmg buff then u lose an additional 10 percent dmg which brings u down to 90 percent of your base dmg so ur really losing 20/110 X 100 % =18.18182 percent of your town dmg. So if you multiply (1-.18182)(160.8) you get 131.5. Well actually its 131.56 but this game rounds down so. Hope this clarifies :)
Is it true?then dmg bonus pet sucks on pvp :/

[Ssneakykills]

Rogues recieve a 10 percent dmg debuff once they enter pvp, and since debuffs cancel any buff this means u get no bonus from ur pets dmg percent. So in towns u basicly have 110% of ur base dmg due to the dmg percent buff from samael. Once u enter pvp u lose ur dmg buff then u lose an additional 10 percent dmg which brings u down to 90 percent of your base dmg so ur really losing 20/110 X 100 % =18.18182 percent of your town dmg. So if you multiply (1-.18182)(160.8) you get 131.5. Well actually its 131.56 but this game rounds down so. Hope this clarifies :)

Oh I see and my damage seems so low for a rogue at 15 in pvp town

[Arrowz]

Is it true?then dmg bonus pet sucks on pvp :/

Yes it is true but this only applies to rogues. Dmg bonus is good for other classes

[Farz]

Yes it is true but this only applies to rogues. Dmg bonus is good for other classes

R.I.P. Hj for Rogue pvp.

[Arrowz]

R.I.P. Hj for Rogue pvp.

Has been like this for multiple seasons so

[kinzmet]

Oh I see and my damage seems so low for a rogue at 15 in pvp town

Yup, my level15 twink got 190 damage in town with 1800 health, 1025 mana and 615 armor.

[Ssneakykills]

Yup, my level15 twink got 190 damage in town with 1800 health, 1025 mana and 615 armor.

That's pretty sweet especially the damage, you using singe or?

[Higuani]

I lose only 17dmg bcs i have glacian (no dmg%) Thats quiet alot for a nerf on rogues under level 20 imo. Even some tanks got 20+ dmg more than me in pvp. Makes no sense but yeah what can we do lol

[kinzmet]

That's pretty sweet especially the damage, you using singe or?

Yup, Singe.

[prokean44]

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