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twoxc
11-15-2014, 10:29 PM
Since planar elite tombs was released. Found out that Recipe is dropped from Arena Master at the end of the 4th boss. Been doing arena a lot 5-6 hours a day at a rate of 4-5 minutes a run. STILL NOTHING.

I would rather see the Recipe in SIRSPENDALOT and pay 10-20m lol then waste all this time for nothing and burning nearly the same amount of gold in Ankh. The drop rate is absurd at this rate mind as well wait for new gears in new event and such.

Does sts even realize or notice how often people do arena or even clear it. There are only certain amount of people that actually does arena and actually clear in 4-5 minute continuous every run. If these group of people actually ever loot their recipe they gonna keep it for themselves and won't ever try to find it again. So there are nearly absolutly no chance of profiting from it or getting enough out there for the population.

Just saying. Think about it sts the odds of this recipe dropping is just absurd.

Xpolosion
11-15-2014, 10:39 PM
4-5 minute per run is actually 4 people running so that's 4 chances going 4-5 hours at 4-5 minutes for 2 days now and still nothing. Sigh

Candylicks
11-15-2014, 11:55 PM
First of all, support my suggestion of the recipe being bought off an npc.
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?187023-Mythic-Amulet-Recipe-Buy-from-NPC

And yes after you grind out all the materials to never get your hands on the recipe completely wipes the fun out of completing this quest chain.

They are giving this amulet arcane status when in reality it's mythic.

Caabatric
11-16-2014, 01:00 AM
has anyone got it yet to even see the stats..

twoxc
11-16-2014, 02:53 AM
NOPE STILL NOTHING. I would rather farm elite tombs for fragment 20-30 fragment a day. I'll have my new dark armors in 10-14 days rather then waste it in arena with no chance of recipe what so ever.

Maketaca
11-16-2014, 07:58 AM
Compare to dragonite bar: you need 150 teeth, I think drop rate is 1/10 in normal maps => 1500 runs. 2 minutes per run => 3000 mins. You play 5 hours/day => you need 10 days to farm a dragonite bar :). Of course, you dont need ankh to farm teeth but I think you only need 1 recipe to craft many pendants (noone has a recipe, so I am not sure about it).
I really want to have a new mythic pendant but If you can have it after 2 days, it isnt mythic rarity. It's easier when they put mythic/arcane in locks but player asked for a farmable mythic.
P/S: maybe sts should make mythic parchment (like arcane parchment), increase drop rate like tooth and need 150 => 200 parchments to get a recipe :).
Sorry for my english :).

RDX
11-16-2014, 08:04 AM
Compare to dragonite bar: you need 150 teeth, I think drop rate is 1/10 in normal maps => 1500 runs. 2 minutes per run => 3000 mins. You play 5 hours/day => you need 10 days to farm a dragonite bar :). Of course, you dont need ankh to farm teeth but I think you only need 1 recipe to craft many pendants (noone has a recipe, so I am not sure about it).
I really want to have a new mythic pendant but If you can have it after 2 days, it isnt mythic rarity. It's easier when they put mythic/arcane in locks but player asked for a farmable mythic.
P/S: maybe sts should make mythic parchment (like arcane parchment), increase drop rate like tooth and need 150 => 200 parchments to get a recipe :).
Sorry for my english :).

tindrin in 2 minutes..lol gogogo

and wat about other essence?

Maketaca
11-16-2014, 09:18 AM
tindrin in 2 minutes..lol gogogo

and wat about other essence?

He can run arena in 4-5 mins, I think 2 mins/run is ok and he doesnt complain about other essence, so I think it's ok, too.

RDX
11-16-2014, 09:37 AM
He can run arena in 4-5 mins, I think 2 mins/run is ok and he dont complain about other essence, so I think it's ok, too.

Thats what i said he calculated time for 150 elite teeths
Only.so wat about the time which gonna spend in farming other essence.
And dnt forget how we obtain mythic pet grimm in events.
Yes u can call it arcane pendent then i have no prob lol.

Maketaca
11-16-2014, 10:11 AM
Thats what i said he calculated time for 150 elite teeths
Only.so wat about the time which gonna spend in farming other essence.
And dnt forget how we obtain mythic pet grimm in events.
Yes u can call it arcane pendent then i have no prob lol.

So, you want everyone have new mythic pendant like grimm? I like it :). But think about other pendants. If you have grimm, you still wanna have other pets. If you have the best pendant, you dont want others. 2-3 days and you can farm it, what happen after 2 months?
As I said, IMO, sts should make parchment, players will be happier when they see 1/150 than 0/1.

Laveen
11-16-2014, 10:13 AM
Luckily, I didn't experience any disconnections like others. Farming isn't supposed to eat everyone's time and soul and it already costs lots of ankhs, elixirs and platinum.

While you (STS) want your players to enjoy the content more, let's not forget that this is a game, people farm day in and day out and yet no one looted a simple recipe which either must have an arcane rarity like the arcane fossil or an unobtainable rarity since the recipe seems to be non-existing.

Instead of making a test version for us and launching it with minimal to no difference/changes after feedback, you should maybe test it yourselves with gears that most of us have. Not SnS, arcane ring and paracelsus stones. The difficulty in the tombs is already hard enough, one map takes around 15-40 minutes (more or less) to complete depending on the party and gears. When someone disconnects it takes even longer time for some. I experienced two disconnected while we were killing the boss and we couldn't complete the map. And then the recipe for the mythic pendant is just impossible to get.

I personally already gave up farming arena that I think many others did as well. Make the recipe purchasable with Dragkin teeth/golds/whatever or change the rarity drastically to an actual obtainable rarity.

UndeadJudge
11-16-2014, 10:13 AM
It doesn't exist.


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Maketaca
11-16-2014, 10:30 AM
Luckily, I didn't experience any disconnections like others. Farming isn't supposed to eat everyone's time and soul and it already costs lots of ankhs, elixirs and platinum.

While you (STS) want your players to enjoy the content more, let's not forget that this is a game, people farm day in and day out and yet no one looted a simple recipe which either must have an arcane rarity like the arcane fossil or an unobtainable rarity since the recipe seems to be non-existing.

Instead of making a test version for us and launching it with minimal to no difference/changes after feedback, you should maybe test it yourselves with gears that most of us have. Not SnS, arcane ring and paracelsus stones. The difficulty in the tombs is already hard enough, one map takes around 15-40 minutes (more or less) to complete depending on the party and gears. When someone disconnects it takes even longer time for some. I experienced two disconnected while we were killing the boss and we couldn't complete the map. And then the recipe for the mythic pendant is just impossible to get.

I personally already gave up farming arena that I think many others did as well. Make the recipe purchasable with Dragkin teeth/golds/whatever or change the rarity drastically to an actual obtainable rarity.

I dont like farming for recipe but make the mythic quest is hard enough. Instead of farming for 1 recipe or increasing the recipe's drop rate, make a longer quest or as you said make the recipe purchasable (even with new token).

Titanium
11-16-2014, 10:49 AM
I dont like farming for recipe but make the mythic quest is hard enough. Instead of farming for 1 recipe or increasing the recipe's drop rate, make a longer quest or as you said make the recipe purchasable (even with new token).


Planar tokens - No. We already have to get 300 of those to get the new legendary armor/helm

RDX
11-16-2014, 11:23 AM
So, you want everyone have new mythic pendant like grimm? I like it :). But think about other pendants. If you have grimm, you still wanna have other pets. If you have the best pendant, you dont want others. 2-3 days and you can farm it, what happen after 2 montr
As I said, IMO, sts should make parchment, players will be happier when they see 1/150 than 0/1.

No i dnt lwant that it should be easy like grimm .lol
But i dnt also want that getting recipe is like getting fossil.
And what u want? Crafting it should be two months task ?

Maketaca
11-16-2014, 11:44 AM
No i dnt lwant that it should be easy like grimm .lol
But i dnt also want that getting recipe is like getting fossil.
And what u want? Crafting it should be two months task ?


I dont like farming for recipe but make the mythic quest is hard enough. Instead of farming for 1 recipe or increasing the recipe's drop rate, make a longer quest or as you said make the recipe purchasable (even with new token).

Maybe purchasable with new token is a bad idea .
I think 2 weeks. About 2 weeks for new mythic pendant and 2 weeks for new legendary gear. Then, winter event.

twoxc
11-16-2014, 12:53 PM
Planar fragment for the armors are easy to obtain. Just require a lot of time and repeatedly doing it. At least I know I have a finish line and a goal to reach. Which is 300 fragment. I know when I will finish and my progress is slowly moving as every minute I spend in planar tombs and gain 1 fragment. But for arena case lol I'm not sure if the recipe exist it's like fighting a pointless and endless battle here. PLANAR TOMBS for Fragment is Challenging, yes I love it. PLANAR ARENA for Recipe is nearly impossible. There's a huge different between CHALLENGED AND IMPOSSIBLE. Also sts have a history of making mistake on certain odds and drop rate. Who knows if there an actual bug that stop recipe from dropping haha.

Kakashis
11-16-2014, 01:07 PM
Yah I was expecting some new tombs but it's just recolor shuyal maps. But the worst part is that it's unprofitable. You spend 100k a run on anks but with no good loot. That will end farming fast.

Anarchist
11-16-2014, 01:14 PM
My DE-Addiction schedule is proceeding well.

How about yours? :D

Xpolosion
11-16-2014, 04:38 PM
So make all 4 bosses in arena drop the recipe not just last one. That would be perfect

Energizeric
11-16-2014, 04:48 PM
Guys, this is the first weekend. It's only been out for 3 days. I guess you think if it takes longer than 3 days then it means the drop rate is too low?

I posted many suggestions earlier this year, and one of them was for a long (very long) quest for a mythic or arcane item. I referenced the ichor quest in Pocket Legends as the basis for my example. For any of you who played PL a couple of years ago, you would remember that the ichor quest took weeks to complete, and that is with grinding daily. You had to complete the dungeon at least 1000 or more times to get your 500 ichors.

While I do agree that there are far too many one-hit kills and that the planar arena needs to be toned down in terms of the damage that the bosses and mobs hit us with, I do NOT agree that it takes too long. This is a mythic item, and should take at least a couple of weeks before anyone has obtained it, and for most of us it should take even longer than that.

Idly
11-16-2014, 04:53 PM
Guys, this is the first weekend. It's only been out for 3 days. I guess you think if it takes longer than 3 days then it means the drop rate is too low?

I posted many suggestions earlier this year, and one of them was for a long (very long) quest for a mythic or arcane item. I referenced the ichor quest in Pocket Legends as the basis for my example. For any of you who played PL a couple of years ago, you would remember that the ichor quest took weeks to complete, and that is with grinding daily. You had to complete the dungeon at least 1000 or more times to get your 500 ichors.

While I do agree that there are far too many one-hit kills and that the planar arena needs to be toned down in terms of the damage that the bosses and mobs hit us with, I do NOT agree that it takes too long. This is a mythic item, and should take at least a couple of weeks before anyone has obtained it, and for most of us it should take even longer than that.

Nobody is disagreeing that it should take a long time, the fact that many dedicated players have been farming the arena hard doing 5-7 minute runs for 6 hours a day and nobody has the recipe is the issue here Sure increase the other obtainable components needed to drag the quest out a bit but having one single item that does not drop is absurd. Arcane fossil 2.0

Dogoeswoof
11-16-2014, 05:17 PM
Guys, this is the first weekend. It's only been out for 3 days. I guess you think if it takes longer than 3 days then it means the drop rate is too low?

I posted many suggestions earlier this year, and one of them was for a long (very long) quest for a mythic or arcane item. I referenced the ichor quest in Pocket Legends as the basis for my example. For any of you who played PL a couple of years ago, you would remember that the ichor quest took weeks to complete, and that is with grinding daily. You had to complete the dungeon at least 1000 or more times to get your 500 ichors.

While I do agree that there are far too many one-hit kills and that the planar arena needs to be toned down in terms of the damage that the bosses and mobs hit us with, I do NOT agree that it takes too long. This is a mythic item, and should take at least a couple of weeks before anyone has obtained it, and for most of us it should take even longer than that.

Its not about hard work, its about luck, the chances are too small. You can run 500 times for the ichor and get 500 ichor. You can run 5000 times for the recipe and not get the recipe.

twoxc
11-16-2014, 05:44 PM
The Fragments are a guaranteed drop from each tombs boss. Now that I understand it is challenging and fun. No complain here. Arena Recipe on the other hand. Like I said there are only a hand full of people that actually can clear and finish arena runs in 4-5mins going 5-6 hours a day and still nothing. That's 4 people going at it together. 4 time the chance of looting recipe. Still nothing. Yes it has only been 3 day, But that's already been between 200-300 arena cleared. Let's wait one more week if it's still nothing what then? If sts Change to make it easier while people wasted hours and days and plats including ankh and gold for nearly no chance at it. That would be bull. So it's best to do something about it now then later.

Xpolosion
11-16-2014, 07:02 PM
Out of 3 days of ppl running there should atleast be one recipe looted...

Otahaanak
11-16-2014, 07:51 PM
With all the DC's, I'd be curious how many master chests have been looted in total.

3 times today we had party members DC before even getting to the fourth boss and having a shot at it.

Xpolosion
11-16-2014, 07:53 PM
Ya thats why it should drop from all 4 bosses and not just last boss

eugene9707
11-16-2014, 10:42 PM
Guys, this is the first weekend. It's only been out for 3 days. I guess you think if it takes longer than 3 days then it means the drop rate is too low?

I posted many suggestions earlier this year, and one of them was for a long (very long) quest for a mythic or arcane item. I referenced the ichor quest in Pocket Legends as the basis for my example. For any of you who played PL a couple of years ago, you would remember that the ichor quest took weeks to complete, and that is with grinding daily. You had to complete the dungeon at least 1000 or more times to get your 500 ichors.

While I do agree that there are far too many one-hit kills and that the planar arena needs to be toned down in terms of the damage that the bosses and mobs hit us with, I do NOT agree that it takes too long. This is a mythic item, and should take at least a couple of weeks before anyone has obtained it, and for most of us it should take even longer than that.

ya, grinding and farming it is fine, just at lest make the process more enjoyable and more doable for most players. STS said this(arena) is the place to farm after gearing up in tridrin elite? i guarantee that a group of 4 wearing full magma set cannot complete this.

csyui
11-16-2014, 11:05 PM
The tomb map has been live for 4 days. I myself have been running arena over 30 times these days. I know some hardcore players even have run over 50 times arena. But we haven't heard anyone has loot one recipe yet.

Considering players are more active these days, I am sure there are probably thousands of loot chance happen in the whole server these days, but no one claim he/she has looted one. The drop rate of recipe seems to be very close to zero based on my understanding. With such low chance, I am wondering how many players can get the recipe by next expansion.

I remember even shard or fossil with arcane rarity appears in the first day of release. There must be some glitches of the recipe which makes it not properly lootable.

twoxc
11-17-2014, 12:09 AM
The tomb map has been live for 4 days. I myself have been running arena over 30 times these days. I know some hardcore players even have run over 50 times arena. But we haven't heard anyone has loot one recipe yet.

Considering players are more active these days, I am sure there are probably thousands of loot chance happen in the whole server these days, but no one claim he/she has looted one. The drop rate of recipe seems to be very close to zero based on my understanding. With such low chance, I am wondering how many players can get the recipe by next expansion.

I remember even shard or fossil with arcane rarity appears in the first day of release. There must be some glitches of the recipe which makes it not properly lootable.

Yea probably some kind of glitch or bug messing up the chance of it dropping. It's just absurd as of right now to even bother with it. I'm slowly giving up on arena and doing more tombs as I have already gotten about 60 fragment. If I hadn't wasted so much time on arena I would have nearly gotten my new armor or helmet in another day or two.

See what I mean by progress xD as you play and play. But for arena and recipe. There is no progress lol it's CHANCE. How is CHANCE related to CHALLENGE or hard earned in anyways. This is no Challenge it's straight up high way robbery time wasting and gold/plat drown the drain.

Uicheusa
11-17-2014, 12:24 AM
Tanks are doomed.

Allocate
11-17-2014, 02:02 AM
How is CHANCE related to CHALLENGE or hard earned in anyways. This is no Challenge it's straight up high way robbery time wasting and gold/plat drown the drain.

Yup! If I wanted to go to the casino, I would.

This "chance" is the reason why I never have and never will spend a single cent on this game.

Appeltjes
11-17-2014, 02:06 AM
Yup! If I wanted to go to the casino, I would.

This "chance" is the reason why I never have and never will spend a single cent on this game.

You can also run these maps without plat, stop reacting on 6 threads at the same time about not spending money on this game.

Allocate
11-17-2014, 02:14 AM
You can also run these maps without plat, stop reacting on 6 threads at the same time about not spending money on this game.

You must be one of those players that spent a ton on this game, its your money but lol.

Anarchist
11-17-2014, 02:54 AM
You can also run these maps without plat

How?

debitmandiri
11-17-2014, 05:46 AM
Type /killall /killboss

Taraaa no plat used

Idly
11-17-2014, 10:05 AM
How?

Look at the 'pure' lb its not impossible

RDX
11-17-2014, 10:32 AM
Why no dev or mod replying on this matter......

raw
11-17-2014, 10:51 AM
I agree with Energizeric. If this were an item that we could just buy from an NPC for a set amount of money, people would complain. If it were something lootable in a locked crate, people would complain. If this were something obtained after a day, people would lose interest.

I think STG got it right in the sense that they made this amulet difficult to get. As far as I can see, this is one of the first items that requires a lot of time to get.

However, STG clearly went wrong in how OP the bosses are. After a few tries, my team figured out how to coast through map 1/2, however map 3 is still quite ridiculous, and I don't have hundreds of Ankhs to test on a boss that one hits me 20-30 times a run (Costing me around 100k per run + pots + elixirs). I wouldn't mind farming these "tombs" (which aren't even tombs, but lets not even start on that) if the bosses dropped things of value more often, and didn't hit 4-5k my rogue.

At a certain point I question why I still play this game. I was really excited for the Halloween event, but quickly realized that it was a testament to who had the most money to blow on energy. Then this event came and I thought STG would have fixed all the kinks before releasing it, but I was clearly wrong. With extremely frequent DC (I DC just about every single map I run in any tombs), extremely difficult bosses, and nothing really profitable to farm with the new content, I'm surprised players haven't started to jump ship. I guess it's just a testament to how (blindly?) dedicated Legends players are...

Anyway, STG can you address the drop rate of the recipe (let us know the percentage for a drop, and if anyone has obtained one), and can you address the difficulty of the bosses.

Jexetta
11-17-2014, 11:16 AM
I know personally some people that have spent 24 hours at least farming Arena over the last 3 days. These are maxed out rogues running elixers and showing timed run style times. So, they may be going 2x or 3x faster than a normal or average group of players. So you can extrapolate that to average players running 48 or 72 hours in comparison. That is A LOT of runs and a lot of time. That's more hours spent running than what a typical player would play in a month running arena 1 to 2 hours every single day.

I appreciate people playing the devils advocate, I really do, but the drop rate is abysmal. Chalk in all the only PvE elite guilds running the arena and you have some serious issues with the drop rate. This isn't even arguable. To even run arena for most people it might take 20 minutes to get a group together.

You should be able to get the amulet with hard work and a little luck. You shouldn't have to look like this guy for 1 month straight of farming arena mindlessly for hours on end :

109357

No one wants this ^

Excuses
11-17-2014, 12:55 PM
Well.
First of all, why does the recipe of 'mythic' amulet have 'arcane' rarity of drop rate?

Nonsense.

Enterradora
11-17-2014, 02:19 PM
Any loot the recipe? XDDDD

i think rate 1/100 can be a good rate drop for that item.

So u need like 100 runs to get it.

Kingofninjas
11-17-2014, 07:29 PM
Its not about hard work, its about luck, the chances are too small. You can run 500 times for the ichor and get 500 ichor. You can run 5000 times for the recipe and not get the recipe.

You can also run arena just once and get recipe. Unlikely, but possible nonetheless.


Guys, this is the first weekend. It's only been out for 3 days. I guess you think if it takes longer than 3 days then it means the drop rate is too low?

I posted many suggestions earlier this year, and one of them was for a long (very long) quest for a mythic or arcane item. I referenced the ichor quest in Pocket Legends as the basis for my example. For any of you who played PL a couple of years ago, you would remember that the ichor quest took weeks to complete, and that is with grinding daily. You had to complete the dungeon at least 1000 or more times to get your 500 ichors.

While I do agree that there are far too many one-hit kills and that the planar arena needs to be toned down in terms of the damage that the bosses and mobs hit us with, I do NOT agree that it takes too long. This is a mythic item, and should take at least a couple of weeks before anyone has obtained it, and for most of us it should take even longer than that.

Energezeric makes a very valid point here. Give it a week or two and if there are still no drops, then let the cry threads run free. The cry threads started on day 2 after the release of the tombs, so at least give STS a week to analyze the situation and make changes accordingly. A week is not too much to ask for is it? After all, the are