I think what is causing the DC in the game! PLEASE READ

[cami]

I do not know what happens, but Sorcerers cause the DC and more if they use the clock on the map, it sounds funny but I try 5 times to make tombs II with them and happened all the time we gained the DC input BUT when I decided to make the party two rogues and two warr not happened this ... This is one of my doubts and whenever I do a party with magician I prefer to reject.


If you want to try

[Dermuti]

I can say that I stopped sorcplay completely because of permanent dc. I switched to the tank which is second char and it was reall a surprise, I could make the tombs the first time without any dc problem. Close to the boss, the ama dc and party crashed like normal, but not the barb. My barb runs stabil, and has also a soulstone. I will try this today in more runs but I agree that there is something with the sorcs. I made 20 runs before with the sorc and every time I dc much earlier as in one run with the barb yesterday.

[Samhayne]

Hi Cami,

Sorcerer Clock skills are no more intensive than other area of effect skills. I think your experience isn't conclusive and I would hate for their to be rumors to that effect. I play a lot as a sorcerer, in fact I did a Tindirin Elite run through the Wilds over the weekend with 3X sorcerers and a warrior. All of the Sorcerers were dropping clocks and we had no issues.

If you are experiencing disconnects that you feel the server is causing (and is not your device or connection) can you please reply with this information:

- Estimated time when the lag or disconnection occurred
- Character Name
- Type or device and OS. You can usually find your OS version in your settings.
- # of players in party and map you were on when experiencing lag or disconnects
- Description of the problem. What exactly happened?
- When did your connection issues begin? (date)
- Have they tried playing on a different internet connection? (WiFi vs 3g vs 4g)

[cami]

Hi Cami,

Hi sam


Sorcerer Clock skills are no more intensive than other area of effect skills. I think your experience isn't conclusive and I would hate for their to be rumors to that effect. I play a lot as a sorcerer, in fact I did a Tindirin Elite run through the Wilds over the weekend with 3X sorcerers and a warrior. All of the Sorcerers were dropping clocks and we had no issues.

I understand but as I said it is something that I was curious because I thought that only happened to me

If you are experiencing disconnects that you feel the server is causing (and is not your device or connection) can you please reply with this information:

- Estimated time when the lag or disconnection occurred (10m)
- Character Name Camilabb
- Type or device and OS. You can usually find your OS version in your settings. Tablet Titán 7010 Android 4.0
- # of players in party and map you were on when experiencing lag or disconnects 4 / tombs 2
- Description of the problem. What exactly happened? as I said before I disconnect when I play with only magicians , because I have now a normal game . Sam
- When did your connection issues begin? (date) 14/11/2014
- Have they tried playing on a different internet connection? (WiFi vs 3g vs 4g) only WI-fi

[Ninjasmurf]

Hi Cami,

Sorcerer Clock skills are no more intensive than other area of effect skills. I think your experience isn't conclusive and I would hate for their to be rumors to that effect. I play a lot as a sorcerer, in fact I did a Tindirin Elite run through the Wilds over the weekend with 3X sorcerers and a warrior. All of the Sorcerers were dropping clocks and we had no issues.

If you are experiencing disconnects that you feel the server is causing (and is not your device or connection) can you please reply with this information:

- Estimated time when the lag or disconnection occurred
- Character Name
- Type or device and OS. You can usually find your OS version in your settings.
- # of players in party and map you were on when experiencing lag or disconnects
- Description of the problem. What exactly happened?
- When did your connection issues begin? (date)
- Have they tried playing on a different internet connection? (WiFi vs 3g vs 4g)

Try running in tombs Sam. Im noticing that most of my dcs happen right after the clock drop and my party members are too including rogues and warriors.

[Dalmony]

Agreed. Unsure exactly what it is in mage skills but in terms of planar tombs only - not other maps - I've 100% noticed this as a pattern.

[Madnex]

I can also confirm this. We had one mage in the party not using Time Shift (clock) and the runs were bearable in a three-player party. He then respecialized to include it in his build and 4/5 times he dropped it, the whole party disconnected. Don't even get me started on what happens when two mages try to alternate clocks now; if you're lucky enough and lag doesn't completely cancel your skill leaving you wondering where it went, the most common annoyance is that it doesn't read the skill as charged which results in the most useless skill in the game (uncharged clock does no dot, just slight slowdown plus nonexistent dropdown damage).

I suggest mages learn to use Frost Bolt efficiently until this issue is resolved.

[raw]

I can also confirm this. We had one mage in the party not using Time Shift (clock) and the runs were bearable in a three-player party. He then respecialized to include it in his build and 4/5 times he dropped it, the whole party disconnected. Don't even get me started on what happens when two mages try to alternate clocks now; if you're lucky enough and lag doesn't completely cancel your skill leaving you wondering where it went, the most common annoyance is that it doesn't read the skill as charged which results in the most useless skill in the game (uncharged clock does no dot, just slight slowdown plus nonexistent dropdown damage).

I suggest mages learn to use Frost Bolt efficiently until this issue is resolved.

The mage TS skill does cause a bit of lag, but I don't think it's the direct cause of the DC. There seems to be a threshold for the amount of graphics/mobs that can be on the screen before a DC occurs. A TS is graphic intensive so that could be adding to the amount of graphics displayed on your device, so ya Asphynxia, ice instead of TS could be a viable solution for farming to prevent DC (unfortunately for timed runs it's not =/).

One suggestion is to use parties of 3. I've found that I DC a significant amount less in smaller parties!

[Paulnaj]

We tried party of 3 earlier. 3 mage 1 rogue.

Oltgar elite / planar tomb / elite wilds / elite caves

Someone randonly still gets dc

We tried no clock run again on tomb, guess what. One still got dc.

Edit: 2 mage 1 war

[Madnex]

The mage TS skill does cause a bit of lag, but I don't think it's the direct cause of the DC. There seems to be a threshold for the amount of graphics/mobs that can be on the screen before a DC occurs. A TS is graphic intensive so that could be adding to the amount of graphics displayed on your device, so ya Asphynxia, ice instead of TS could be a viable solution for farming to prevent DC (unfortunately for timed runs it's not =/).

One suggestion is to use parties of 3. I've found that I DC a significant amount less in smaller parties!
Correct. Parties of two or three are the optimal choice at the moment. It's not the direct cause, yes. But it does cause graphic lag and that is somehow connected to the actual lag from ping. When I'm running mage in continuous elites, my FPS drops much faster than when I'm running without mage (as rogue). In the same amount of time and similar pulls, of course.

[Serancha]

I also find if one person D/C then the rest are more likely to also. It seems to be like a domino effect.

[Drio Ramaco]

the best way to prove this is make a 10 run with full party without a mage, and a 10 run full party with 1 mage. If the the party without a mage still got dc then your theory proves wrong. (although the 10 run things isnt a complete study of this theory, its a good start to look at something atleast)

[Paulnaj]

I also find if one person D/C then the rest are more likely to also. It seems to be like a domino effect.


Correct, like a virus that spreads.

[elitwarrio]

No way ban all mages of the game..

[Haligali]

remove the effect of the paracelsus gems completely pls

[Candylicks]

For sure mage has the most going on w/ spells and does DC the most. I would tell mages to use fire/light/ice/wind for now and if you run with a trap rogue it's OK. Not ideal but works.

Kind of fun to use different spells.

[CAK Vader]

I found out what the reason is, the forum spam about dc complaints causes lag in game and disconnects us all :O!

[Qamr]

STS make a Game content with high Graphics and Visual Effects (very high than their Game can handle) and that what all of us experienced in the game when we find that we all get DC in the new (high visual Tombs and Arena) more than others maps - the lagging and chance for DC increase more when we use any visual effects (LB banner, LB vanity, Mage Skills, Large Pull, Para gem Effect, Etc.) we all know, Admit it please
almost 100% of our dc Cases (Dropped Frames)

[killarrow]

Hi Cami,

Sorcerer Clock skills are no more intensive than other area of effect skills. I think your experience isn't conclusive and I would hate for their to be rumors to that effect. I play a lot as a sorcerer, in fact I did a Tindirin Elite run through the Wilds over the weekend with 3X sorcerers and a warrior. All of the Sorcerers were dropping clocks and we had no issues.

If you are experiencing disconnects that you feel the server is causing (and is not your device or connection) can you please reply with this information:

- Estimated time when the lag or disconnection occurred
- Character Name
- Type or device and OS. You can usually find your OS version in your settings.
- # of players in party and map you were on when experiencing lag or disconnects
- Description of the problem. What exactly happened?
- When did your connection issues begin? (date)
- Have they tried playing on a different internet connection? (WiFi vs 3g vs 4g)

Hi Sam, just curious to know if you guys were on the latest client and not playing over your LAN, sitting ext to the server?

A bit surprised on your statement "a Tindin Elite run" being good without DC, compared to thousands of runs and thousands of DCs?

[Haligali]

I switched class just because of this bug.

(and got bored doing 0 damage on bosses too)

[Paulnaj]

Hi Sam, just curious to know if you guys were on the latest client and not playing over your LAN, sitting ext to the server?

A bit surprised on your statement "a Tindin Elite run" being good without DC, compared to thousands of runs and thousands of DCs?

They tried it on four pt members all with 1hit killings mobs ;))

[Major Nerd]

Did you know that if you reward a chicken at random it starts to make associations until it starts doing weird stuff to get the reward? I think a similar thing is going on here placing blame on the clock.
I have 4 toons. 2 roques, a warrior, and a mage. A guaranteed disconnect on all 4 is creating a huge mob at the beginning of wt4. It doesn't matter if I used clock tower, fireball, wind, nothing but basic attack, or other classes. The disconnect will occur every time a certain level of mayhem occurs, lending credence to the bug being related to dropped frames. Any location a large mob can be created has the same repeatable results. Tindirin is a hotspot for me too. I get disconnected in parties of two or more, but most often in parties of 4. I never get disconnected solo, so I have been doing solo runs only. I think the clock could possibly contribute if the GPU has to render damage text on the head of each member of a mob, but the same result seems to occur with all aoe attacks. Just to reiterate, I get disconnected on my other toons in parties without mages. Here is the ringer...most of the time a mob is involved, but not every time. Sometimes it is at single boss or small group. But I can produce the crash every time with a huge mob.