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Zeus
11-17-2014, 11:28 PM
Forumers,

I am sure many are excited about the new recipes, ingots, ores, mythic amulet, etc! As a fellow player, I just want to make sure players are fully informed into exactly the adversities of the upcoming conquest.


I. Crafting of Armor & Helms Process:

1. Obtain Recipe
2. Obtain Ingot
3. Obtain the corresponding armor or helm that the recipe indicates. (Details found in sections II & III)


II. Armor/Helm Loot Tables:
- Located in Planar Chests (epic rarity) found in Planar Tombs dropped via boss

III. Planar Chests:
- Upon opening, a player will be granted a single item! Epic if unfortunate, or one of the highly sought after planar legendary armors/helms required in the recipe sold by planar tombs vendor.
- Personally, I have opened about 20 planar chests and have only looted one planar brutality rogue helm. When in unrefined form, the stats of the planar tomb gear flat out suck. With the effort required to obtain these items, I do think that developers should look into buffing the rogue and sorcerer helms as in the current state, they are at best comparable to the L36 mythic helms - not necessarily better as promised.


So, overall, not only is there a lot of effort required to obtain the mythic amulet, but there is also a substantial amount of work required to obtain the helm/armor. Thoughts? Opinions? Is the work worth the reward? I think for armors, the general consensus is yet (excluding sorcerers) but for helms (excluding warriors), the helms do require a buff.


Cheers,

Zeus

Frekken
11-17-2014, 11:41 PM
Nah. I'm saving for next level cap. Ty very much
Thanks for the info

PurEvil
11-17-2014, 11:48 PM
For me, perhaps the pendant is worth the effort to craft, as for the other items, lvl36 myths are still better, looks better too.

PurEvil
11-17-2014, 11:50 PM
Nah. I'm saving for next level cap. Ty very much
Thanks for the info

that is a big factor to consider as well. What's the point wasting time and huge amount of plat to obtain those items if there's another cap increase over the horizon?

Zeus
11-17-2014, 11:51 PM
that is a big factor to consider as well. What's the point wasting time and huge amount of plat to obtain those items if there's another cap increase over the horizon?

Remiem said there will not be another level cap for more until spring, I believe.

Dogoeswoof
11-17-2014, 11:52 PM
Hello guys and girls,
Let's set aside the bias between rich and poor, strong and weak, and inexperienced and experienced, and talk about an important issue at hand. I have a long post but there are some important suggestions that my friends, my guildies, and this forum will support.

So I believe there are multiple reasons people run the planar tombs, but I'm sure the main reason is to obtain the new legendary armor.

How does one get the armor?
Well as zeus mentioned, it takes 100 fragments for a bar, two planarized ore, and apparently, there is a third part that was not mentioned. You need to have luck in opening planar chests to obtain a base crafting part for each new armor piece.

When I heard this, I was first confused as to why sts didn't say anything about this because I have already ran 52 times for 52 fragments totaling about 15min per run so about roughly 13 hours. I thought I would get the 160 fragments for the recipe for the armor and the bar and craft the new armor all would be good.

Next I felt hopelessness. 300k roughly per chest, you get one chance, and you have to get the base part that you want out of all the armors. Now, these chests are very rare for an epic item, I havent gotten a single one from 52, yes 52 runs!

Okay, moving on. I'd like to point out that the legendary armor and helm were nerfed immediately after players complained about their "op" ness without seeing truly how difficult and expensive they would be to obtain. Really why is there so much flexibility given to players on the forums to influence decision making. The armor should not have been nerfed at all now that we know there is a base part needed with luck.

This is outrageous, I'm not going to run the planar tombs anymore unless something is done here.

What I suggest and I would like to receive support on,

Solutions,

1. Buff the armor back to its original state so that there is VALUE in trying to get it, not some sub-par mythic armor that takes 10x the effort and gold to obtain. The mythic armor can be done by simply purchasing the lv 26 armor, doing quests and bam, you have the best armor. The planar tombs takes much longer, you have to get lucky in the even rarer crates, and you end up with a weaker armor. Please consider this.

2. NEXT, get rid of the base part in planar chests OR increase the drop rate of the planar chests. More dropped chests = more base parts and value in trying to get the better armor. Also, I've never heard about this base part until Zeus brought it up through actual testing and spending 6mil on planar crates. This is why getting rid of the base part is also viable. Ive ran 52 times and have gotten not a single elite planar crate. If there is no base part, it will still be a challenging and time consuming farm to get the armor and it is not luck based or money based to buy auction crates.

I will not run anymore tombs until something is done. I can get 160 fragments for the brut/pot armor that seems only slightly better than mythics, but there is no garuntee with this new base part. Buff the armor again or get rid of the base part.

Lastly a message to sts - I know you guys are working very hard and are passionate about the game. As a player I really want to see what you guys think about this. If it's too difficult or too late to implement these changes, I'd like to know as you guys are working hard on the winter event. Make sure that event is flawless when it is released and take your time as this expansion is still a work in progress.

I'd also like this forum to be at the top so sts can see it :) So keep adding your support for this.

Frekken
11-17-2014, 11:56 PM
Until spring seems far... But I'm guessing the big amulet crafting horde is coming near that date so... Christmas is gonna happen without seeing a amulet in cs. Almost sure

Energizeric
11-18-2014, 12:06 AM
II. Armor/Helm Loot Tables:
- Located in Planar Chests (epic rarity) found in Planar Tombs dropped via boss

I have a problem with this part. I cannot manage even a single run through the planar tombs. I've tried at least 20 times, and every time I get disconnected. I've easily wasted 100+ plat in the process with revives and elixirs, only to eventually be disconnected each time.

Apocolyptika
11-18-2014, 12:18 AM
I have a problem with this part. I cannot manage even a single run through the planar tombs. I've tried at least 20 times, and every time I get disconnected. I've easily wasted 100+ plat in the process with revives and elixirs, only to eventually be disconnected each time.

IKR zzz i feel you!

inkredible
11-18-2014, 01:42 AM
Seo said like 30 mins ago that sts hasn't release all contents .. I think including recipe for mythic amulet so... GG

Dex Scene
11-18-2014, 01:59 AM
Nice thread

Linkincena
11-18-2014, 02:03 AM
Forumers,

I am sure many are excited about the new recipes, ingots, ores, mythic amulet, etc! As a fellow player, I just want to make sure players are fully informed into exactly the adversities of the upcoming conquest.


I. Crafting of Armor & Helms Process:

1. Obtain Recipe
2. Obtain Ingot
3. Obtain the corresponding armor or helm that the recipe indicates. (Details found in sections II & III)


II. Armor/Helm Loot Tables:
- Located in Planar Chests (epic rarity) found in Planar Tombs dropped via boss

III. Planar Chests:
- Upon opening, a player will be granted a single item! Epic if unfortunate, or one of the highly sought after planar legendary armors/helms required in the recipe sold by planar tombs vendor.
- Personally, I have opened about 20 planar chests and have only looted one planar brutality rogue helm. When in unrefined form, the stats of the planar tomb gear flat out suck. With the effort required to obtain these items, I do think that developers should look into buffing the rogue and sorcerer helms as in the current state, they are at best comparable to the L36 mythic helms - not necessarily better as promised.


So, overall, not only is there a lot of effort required to obtain the mythic amulet, but there is also a substantial amount of work required to obtain the helm/armor. Thoughts? Opinions? Is the work worth the reward? I think for armors, the general consensus is yet (excluding sorcerers) but for helms (excluding warriors), the helms do require a buff.


Cheers,

Zeus

It ain't no planar saga.. its dc saga lol

Jexetta
11-18-2014, 02:57 AM
You've got to be kidding me, we need to also find the exact armor in the chest we want?

Let me state... I've run the tombs 86 times and found a grand total of 2 Planar chests. I've been in a group of 3 constantly during this time and I've been the only one to loot a chest. That means the drop rate is about 2 (chests) to 258 (3 players x my runs) or a likelihood of looting one is 1% (rounding up from .007%)? Does this seem like good odds to you?

That's not all then... So after I get one, I need to open it and I get 1 chance at looting something of worth or I might get absolutely nothing.

Let me be clear if I'm to believe the above posting. Zeus opened 20 of these chests in order to get 1 helm he probably doesn't even want as much as a potency helm(maybe). At a 1% drop rate you're looking at 2,000 runs..... 2,000 TO GET 1 HELM. But you wanted a set right? Okay.... run the maps 4,000 times then. 4,000 runs at 15 minutes a run = 1,000 hours. How much time is 1,000 hours? Oh... a measly 42 days of constant play time. Give me a break.

This makes me very unhappy. This is like a giant gambling wheel. Why does everything have to be based on rolling a digital pair of dice. I'm going to be honest, this really gives me pause if I want to continue on this 'ride'.

Zeus
11-18-2014, 03:09 AM
You've got to be kidding me, we need to also find the exact armor in the chest we want?

Let me state... I've run the tombs 86 times and found a grand total of 2 Planar chests. I've been in a group of 3 constantly during this time and I've been the only one to loot a chest. That means the drop rate is about 2 (chests) to 258 (3 players x my runs) or a likelihood of looting one is 1% (rounding up from .007%)? Does this seem like good odds to you?


That's not all then... So after I get one, I need to open it and I get 1 chance at looting something of worth or I might get absolutely nothing.

Let me be clear if I'm to believe the above posting. Zeus opened 20 of these chests in order to get 1 helm he probably doesn't even want as much as a potency helm(maybe). At a 1% drop rate you're looking at 2,000 runs..... 2,000 TO GET 1 HELM. But you wanted a set right? Okay.... run the maps 4,000 times then. 4,000 runs at 15 minutes a run = 1,000 hours. How much time is 1,000 hours? Oh... a measly 42 days of constant play time. Give me a break.

This makes me very unhappy. This is like a giant gambling wheel. Why does everything have to be based on rolling a digital pair of dice. I'm going to be honest, this really gives me pause if I want to continue on this 'ride'.

Brutality is better than potency. Too much health loss, lol.



I'm fine with it, tbh. It's an easy item to monopolize. >:-)

*whispers* Search planar in chest section of AH *whispers*

Uicheusa
11-18-2014, 03:32 AM
Ppl are getting smarter after they get to know what is under the disguise of a 'freemium' game.
So I believe this is what is called in the con business as 'screening process', serving the purpose of finding out those hardcores with deep pocket among us.

xcs
11-18-2014, 05:13 AM
Thankyou zeus.

To obtain the armor you need:

Recipe requirement for an Armor: 60 planar essences.
Planarite Ignot: 100 planar essences
2x Crystallized Planar Ore

So what you guys are saying in addition to the mentioned above requirements, you also need Rare loots from Planar chests...

Seems like a PRO TROLL STS..
GG.

Back to PVP ..

Zeus
11-18-2014, 05:24 AM
Thankyou zeus.

To obtain the armor you need:

Recipe requirement for an Armor: 60 planar essences.
Planarite Ignot: 100 planar essences
2x Crystallized Planar Ore

So what you guys are saying in addition to the mentioned above requirements, you also need Rare loots from Planar chests...

Seems like a PRO TROLL STS..
GG.

Back to PVP ..

Yes. :)

Titanium
11-18-2014, 05:25 AM
I wanted to say "wth" but now thinking better I'm done with the farm part and i guess many of you guys.

STS , put everything in lock crates... YOU WON !

Zeus
11-18-2014, 05:27 AM
I've now opened about 30 & the odds are pretty abysmal.

Madnex
11-18-2014, 06:07 AM
This is just hilarious, lol.

No one believed me when I was talking about needing base armor in order to make something perhaps slightly better than mythics. Unless they buff the armor on the rogue set back to what it was and/or buff the mage set to at least +100 (currently +43), the only people who will buy these recipes will be the ones ignoring the "hidden" crafting material. Guess what will happen when they figure it out; they'll be pestering both forums and support for planar fragment refunds.

Haligali
11-18-2014, 06:25 AM
I dont understand, the vendor says: need 1 ingot and 2 ore for recipe. Then you got a recipe, has anyone got it yet for a screenshot? If i loot some crystal gear and i wana upgrade to imbued gem gear, then what else do i need beside recipe? Another ingot? 20 vial? arcane fossil or shard?

Idly
11-18-2014, 06:34 AM
The cost of ingots needs to be reduced to 25-30 fragments. The helm should be 25 and armor 35. The elite planar chest drop rate needs to be increased exponentially and should also give
3 item's as opposed to the 1 STS have somehow decided is fair these days.
It will be the best set ingame but atm its ridiculously difficult to obtain even without the dc issues factored in. As is already stated it's legendary and should be nowhere near this hard to get. The only thing this questline is doing is angering and alienating the entire player base.
Please take note for once STS. We appreciate you wanted to try out a more difficult format and didn't want to put everything in crates (I bet you did but feared the usual p2p rage threads) however this is over the top of the top and needs to be re assessed.

Difficult, we can live with that.

Mind numbingly boring tedious over powerful hardcore tasks requiring months of elite farming in insane difficulty maps no thanks.

firechandra
11-18-2014, 06:43 AM
Zeus can you tell us please what have you dropped in other planar chests? I mean how many other legendary items and how many epics and if you have looted a shade egg

killarrow
11-18-2014, 06:46 AM
I've now opened about 30 & the odds are pretty abysmal.

STS can switch a loot table to high medium or low at will.

If you are unfortunately popping anything when sts has switched to the medium and low times, you are guaranteed to loot cheap, cheaper and cheapest items.

The loot tables are rotated to the whims and fancies of the STS devs who throttle the inflow of arcanes, mythics and legendaries. Also dont forget that they forget to include loot in tables.

Your luck is in the hands of STS.

Psychologist
11-18-2014, 07:53 AM
Brilliant little guide. Much appreciated, Zeus!

Sir Lubo Penev
11-18-2014, 08:59 AM
Ok, let me get this straight.

On top of the 160 fragments I need for ingot+recipe, I also need an "unimbued" version of the item I want? LOL.

A simple calculation, based on the numbers Zeus, Jexetta and others have provided here:
1. Chest drop rate: 1% (2 out of 258; if we include Dogo's 0 out of 52, it gets even worse)
2. Pink item from chest rate: 5% (1 helm out of 20 chests)
3. Odds of getting the item you actually want: 4% (1 out of 24 -> 8 pieces x 3 classes)

Can you do the math from here or should I tell you how many runs you actually need? A hint - it's in the thousands.

LOL

Raselph
11-18-2014, 09:02 AM
Remiem said there will not be another level cap for more until spring, I believe.

argh...i saw many springs while making the big lazy robot for a "spring lazy dance" and believe it or not....the machine fluked adn won me gold plaze...

Xorrior
11-18-2014, 09:24 AM
Is this a game or an online gambling site!

Candylicks
11-18-2014, 09:40 AM
Yeah after farming all the ingots and buying the recipes you have to loot the other part out of those planar chests which (1) never drop and (2) only have ONE item inside and very very rarely the crafting component that you need.

All of this for sets that aren't better than mythics?

LOL no thanks.

Moehummer
11-18-2014, 10:43 AM
109432

Ticklish
11-18-2014, 11:17 AM
Yes, and another similarly named set of Planar gears is deemed as still crap after all this time. I don't get why they have go be exclusive to Planar Tombs Chests. They have to be in Planar Arena Master Chests as well for goodness' sake! The fossil drop is a joke, might as well put something useful in there.

Energizeric
11-18-2014, 01:07 PM
OMG, it's been 4 days and everyone doesn't already have all the items they want? IT MUST BE TOO HARD!!!

Sorry guys, but I like that they made this super hard. It will actually add some PvE fun to this game instead of the usual 1-2 weeks of new PvE and then back to PvP. I like that we actually have something to do in PvE that will take months (yes months, not days!). I just wish they would fix the server issues so I could actually run the planar tombs and participate in this wonderful quest for better gear.

And BTW, you don't have to loot the exact item you want. These items are tradable, so you can loot a different one and sell it, or just buy the one you want with from another player. Did anyone here play Pocket Legends? This armor/helm crafting is so similar to how it was in PL. You first had to loot the legendary item, and then you had to work hard to get the crafting materials and the recipe, and then you could craft the upgraded set.

Good work STS. Please do not change a thing (except to get your servers fixed!)

Candylicks
11-18-2014, 01:15 PM
I could actually run the planar tombs and participate in this wonderful quest for better gear.


The gear is not better than mythics.

The cost to run the tombs is extreme.

Pocket legends is dead for a reason.

Heiress
11-18-2014, 01:43 PM
That's right Candy n we aren't dogs chasing cars. woof woof. shiiiinyyyy

Candylicks
11-18-2014, 01:45 PM
That's right Candy n we aren't dogs chasing cars. woof woof. shiiiinyyyy

Okay I laughed. Much needed today too.

Sorcerie
11-18-2014, 01:47 PM
OMG, it's been 4 days and everyone doesn't already have all the items they want? IT MUST BE TOO HARD!!!

Sorry guys, but I like that they made this super hard. It will actually add some PvE fun to this game instead of the usual 1-2 weeks of new PvE and then back to PvP. I like that we actually have something to do in PvE that will take months (yes months, not days!). I just wish they would fix the server issues so I could actually run the planar tombs and participate in this wonderful quest for better gear.

And BTW, you don't have to loot the exact item you want. These items are tradable, so you can loot a different one and sell it, or just buy the one you want with from another player. Did anyone here play Pocket Legends? This armor/helm crafting is so similar to how it was in PL. You first had to loot the legendary item, and then you had to work hard to get the crafting materials and the recipe, and then you could craft the upgraded set.

Good work STS. Please do not change a thing (except to get your servers fixed!)I agree with you there, I think it's a bit too soon for people to start calling foul, but I also agree with Candy.

The tombs are quite expensive to run, and the fact that there are sooo many pieces to crafting this armor is pretty daunting.

300 Planar Fragments in all
80k in Planar Ingots

Plus you have to either loot or buy the base armor which could set you back pretty deep depending on the set you want -- and that's all on top of the endless supply of ankhs, pots, and elixirs that one needs to even get that far.

I'm all for difficult and lengthy quests for the hardcore end gamer, but damn, the time and gold/plat needed to complete this quest line is just a snowballs chance in my eyes, never mind the mythic necklace.

Zeus
11-18-2014, 01:47 PM
That's right Candy n we aren't dogs chasing cars. woof woof. shiiiinyyyy

They're giving us some cheap milk bones as our treats. Where's the premium jerky? :/

Jexetta
11-18-2014, 01:55 PM
That's right Candy n we aren't dogs chasing cars. woof woof. shiiiinyyyy

SQUIRREL!

109450

Energizer, I love your fresh optimism, but we crunched the math for you above - optimism will only get you so far and I also know how many hours a day you used to play back in Judgement. I can tell you that in order to complete this quest with the above loot percentages, it will take you about 2 hours per day / 1,000 hours or 500 days (I'm pretty sure there will be better armor by that time). You can support the quest as it stands as much as you want, but as soon as the exact details filter out to the community about every single item you need, the amount of items dispersing through the community from doing runs is going to drop.

Oh and this.


The gear is not better than mythics.

The cost to run the tombs is extreme.

Pocket legends is dead for a reason.

Candylicks
11-18-2014, 01:57 PM
They're giving us some cheap milk bones as our treats. Where's the premium jerky? :/

Dear Zeus,

109451

Love,
Candy

Zeus
11-18-2014, 01:58 PM
Dear Zeus,

109451

Love,
Candy

I asked for jerky and you gave steak...that's satisfaction, haha.

Dogoeswoof
11-18-2014, 02:00 PM
OMG, it's been 4 days and everyone doesn't already have all the items they want? IT MUST BE TOO HARD!!!

Sorry guys, but I like that they made this super hard. It will actually add some PvE fun to this game instead of the usual 1-2 weeks of new PvE and then back to PvP. I like that we actually have something to do in PvE that will take months (yes months, not days!). I just wish they would fix the server issues so I could actually run the planar tombs and participate in this wonderful quest for better gear.

And BTW, you don't have to loot the exact item you want. These items are tradable, so you can loot a different one and sell it, or just buy the one you want with from another player. Did anyone here play Pocket Legends? This armor/helm crafting is so similar to how it was in PL. You first had to loot the legendary item, and then you had to work hard to get the crafting materials and the recipe, and then you could craft the upgraded set.

Good work STS. Please do not change a thing (except to get your servers fixed!)

Its not that its TOO HARD, we never even said anything about the difficulty. ITS THE FACT THAT they never said anything about the base part and that the base part is based on LUCK NOT HARD WORK. ALSO THE ARMOR IS NOT EVEN WORTH THE HARD WORK.

@energizeric read my post and tell me what you think. Do you think it is fair?

Qamr
11-18-2014, 03:02 PM
Forumers,

III. Planar Chests:
- Upon opening, a player will be granted a single item! Epic if unfortunate, or one of the highly sought after planar legendary armors/helms required in the recipe sold by planar tombs vendor.
- Personally, I have opened about 20 planar chests and have only looted one planar brutality rogue helm. When in unrefined form, the stats of the planar tomb gear flat out suck. With the effort required to obtain these items, I do think that developers should look into buffing the rogue and sorcerer helms as in the current state, they are at best comparable to the L36 mythic helms - not necessarily better as promised.




Zeus

Is it the Same Helm that You can loot from Master Chest (Arena Chest), the arena one also Called Planar helm of brutality..

Tip. if so go Buy All the Planar Gears From Cs before You Answer :D

Zeus
11-18-2014, 03:03 PM
Is it the Same Helm that You can loot from Master Chest (Arena Chest), the arena one also Called Planar helm of brutality..

Tip. if so go Buy All the Planar Gears From Cs before You Answer :D

It's not the same. These ones are Dark Crystal.

Maketaca
11-18-2014, 03:06 PM
Is it the Same Helm that You can loot from Master Chest (Arena Chest), the arena one also Called Planar helm of brutality..

Tip. if so go Buy All the Planar Gears From Cs before You Answer :D

For mage, It's Dark Crystal Cowl of Bru.
Sts announced the new legendary set.

Qamr
11-18-2014, 03:30 PM
It's not the same. These ones are Dark Crystal.

thanks God, I did the fragments Farm only 10 times and stop (just going for the third one for the AP)
I was sure there's some wrong about that as well as they didn't announce the details in fourms

Zeus
11-18-2014, 03:50 PM
Okay, I've now opened a total of 50-60 (I believe, hard to keep count) with only the helm I looted at the beginning on opening. The drop rate flat out sucks.

I think someone forgot to tell STG that just because this is a replacement for mythics does not mean it's okay to change the Legendary Rarity into Arcane rarity.

That's a good 20M down the drain and I was a lucky one. I hope that nobody tests their luck with these crates - you'll only be disappointed. Instead, save the gold and buy yourself a mythic amulet (LOL, JK)!

Ravager
11-18-2014, 03:55 PM
The sad thing is that this is just legendary gear. Gear that will probably be replaced next level cap or something comparable at the next event.

Energizeric
11-18-2014, 04:28 PM
The gear is not better than mythics.

The cost to run the tombs is extreme.

Pocket legends is dead for a reason.

Pocket Legends is dead because people were not spending plat and instead were playing for free. STS had not yet figured out a way to get people to spend enough plat, so the game was not profitable. They had not yet figured out the locked crate idea. But ask anyone who used to play PL regularly and then switched to AL, which one they liked better. PL was so much more fun.

My suggestion last year was for STS to combine some of the ideas that made PL so much fun, like farming for super rare dragon items, but also keep the locked crates so the game is still profitable for them. So it seems they have finally done that, and now people are raging that the items are too rare. Then don't farm for them. I farmed for dragon items for hours each day over a period of months and never saw one drop to anyone in my party. But a friend of mine got lucky and looted a blue armor at one point, so that gave me faith to keep trying. Eventually I managed to save up enough gold and just buy one.

The PvE aspect of Pocket Legends was so much better than Arcane Legends. I used to play hours per day, and I rarely even participated in PvP. PvE was enough to keep me interested and busy. In AL, PvE is mostly boring and dead. Maybe now that will change.

Having these items that are super rare and only drop in PvE (i.e. are not available for plat or in locked crates) makes farming profitable once again. Perhaps the drop rates must be adjusted slightly, but better off that they are too rare than too common. They can always adjust it to be slightly more common, but once it becomes too common, you can never adjust it back as the market is already ruined.

As for whether they are better than mythic, I just looked at the stats for the sorcerer armor and helm, and they are way better than mythic.

Sorcerer mythic helm is the "of assault" variety. If you compare the stats to the new crafted assault helm, every single stat is higher, and some like armor and damage are considerably higher. Sorcerer mythic armor is the "of force" variety. If you compare the stats of the new crafted "of force" armor to the mythic armor, every single stat is higher as well, with some being way higher.

Of course you are free to use a different type of helm or armor, like the "of brutality" or "of security", but when you switch from one type to another, you are always going to make a tradeoff. So yes, "of brutality" is always going to have less crit than "of force". It is your choice. If you want something directly comparable to the mythic gear you have now, then stick with the "of force" and "of assault" combo.

Either way they are much better than the mythic armor and helm. You will end up with a large armor increase, large damage or crit increase (depending on which variety you choose), and a health increase as well

As for the mythic pendant, the stats on that are way better than any other pendant. For us sorcerers, you will see a gain of 500+ health. Just that alone would make it worthwhile. But you will also gain some damage as well.

Energizeric
11-18-2014, 04:30 PM
I agree with you there, I think it's a bit too soon for people to start calling foul, but I also agree with Candy.

The tombs are quite expensive to run, and the fact that there are sooo many pieces to crafting this armor is pretty daunting.

300 Planar Fragments in all
80k in Planar Ingots

Plus you have to either loot or buy the base armor which could set you back pretty deep depending on the set you want -- and that's all on top of the endless supply of ankhs, pots, and elixirs that one needs to even get that far.

I'm all for difficult and lengthy quests for the hardcore end gamer, but damn, the time and gold/plat needed to complete this quest line is just a snowballs chance in my eyes, never mind the mythic necklace.

I do agree that the one shots in the tombs are a bit much. I don't think it should take less time to complete the tombs, but I think the mobs should not hit so hard. It's crazy that a mob can one hit me. I can understand the boss doing that, but not the mobs. So yes, the amount of plat needed for revives is a bit much. I agree. But the time required to loot the rare items is not too much IMO.

Firezmz
11-18-2014, 05:05 PM
Dear Zeus,

109451

Love,
Candy

Look Like a RibEye Medium Rare to me :). Yummyyyyyyyyyyyy

Kingofninjas
11-18-2014, 07:06 PM
Please remove Locked Crates from the loot table. I have run the tombs like 15 times and already rerolled up from a planar tombs chest to a crate TWICE!! It pisses me off to no end to think that I have lost items worth 1m (at the time) for crap worth 10k. Something that is supposed to help me get better loot is taking away the only good loot I would have gotten so far. If the drop rate of these chests was reasonable, like Elite Golden Chests, I would not have made this post but it isn't, so I have.

Qamr
11-21-2014, 11:55 PM
Please remove Locked Crates from the loot table. I have run the tombs like 15 times and already rerolled up from a planar tombs chest to a crate TWICE!! It pisses me off to no end to think that I have lost items worth 1m (at the time) for crap worth 10k. Something that is supposed to help me get better loot is taking away the only good loot I would have gotten so far. If the drop rate of these chests was reasonable, like Elite Golden Chests, I would not have made this post but it isn't, so I have.
I agree with you in that point.
every time i got rerolled in the planar tomb i got locked crate or planar weapon the only one i got planar tomb chest i didn't reroll on it

Samaeldavisjr
11-24-2014, 09:30 AM
OMG, it's been 4 days and everyone doesn't already have all the items they want? IT MUST BE TOO HARD!!!

Sorry guys, but I like that they made this super hard. It will actually add some PvE fun to this game instead of the usual 1-2 weeks of new PvE and then back to PvP. I like that we actually have something to do in PvE that will take months (yes months, not days!). I just wish they would fix the server issues so I could actually run the planar tombs and participate in this wonderful quest for better gear.

And BTW, you don't have to loot the exact item you want. These items are tradable, so you can loot a different one and sell it, or just buy the one you want with from another player. Did anyone here play Pocket Legends? This armor/helm crafting is so similar to how it was in PL. You first had to loot the legendary item, and then you had to work hard to get the crafting materials and the recipe, and then you could craft the upgraded set.

Good work STS. Please do not change a thing (except to get your servers fixed!)

a proper reward to match efforts = fun for the game. without those this game sucks

Azemen
11-25-2014, 12:25 AM
So how are the tombs now after Thursday's patch? is tomb 2 and 3 manageable (as in not a 50 ankh suicide run) anymore? How long does each tomb take for a skilled party to complete now?

Remiem
11-26-2014, 02:32 PM
Hello all.

I would first like to sincerely apologize for the confusion about the new armors. I can definitely see how the recipe itself was extremely confusing for those who either did not see the details on the forums or don't look at them at all. This was an oversight on our part and I have notified the QA and design teams so we can fix it as soon as possible.

As for the drop rate of the chests to receive the base Dark Crystal armor, I have collected your feedback on the rarity and passed it along to QA and design as well so that they can assess how or if they want to tweak it. We wanted it to be a grind, but of course we don't want it to be impossible. I'll continue to read your feedback and stay in close communication with the team so that we can get everything to a place that makes everyone happy. :)

Thanks for all of the constructive feedback. I'll post when I hear back.

Remi

Energizeric
11-26-2014, 03:44 PM
Hello all.

I would first like to sincerely apologize for the confusion about the new armors. I can definitely see how the recipe itself was extremely confusing for those who either did not see the details on the forums or don't look at them at all. This was an oversight on our part and I have notified the QA and design teams so we can fix it as soon as possible.

As for the drop rate of the chests to receive the base Dark Crystal armor, I have collected your feedback on the rarity and passed it along to QA and design as well so that they can assess how or if they want to tweak it. We wanted it to be a grind, but of course we don't want it to be impossible. I'll continue to read your feedback and stay in close communication with the team so that we can get everything to a place that makes everyone happy. :)

Thanks for all of the constructive feedback. I'll post when I hear back.

Remi

See, when I read this it tells me I better run and sell my dark crystal helm before the drop rate increases and the price falls to 10%. I hate when they keep messing with the drop rates on all these items. I can't even imagine how angry some folks must be who bought the amulet recipe for 20m+. I'm beginning to think it is not worth spending a lot of gold on anything because at any time it could become worthless.

Anarchist
11-26-2014, 04:00 PM
See, when I read this it tells me I better run and sell my dark crystal helm before the drop rate increases and the price falls to 10%. I hate when they keep messing with the drop rates on all these items. I can't even imagine how angry some folks must be who bought the amulet recipe for 20m+. I'm beginning to think it is not worth spending a lot of gold on anything because at any time it could become worthless.

Yo freeze.

Recipe wasn't tweaked it is haste that made some people spend 20m and that was their choice.

Zeus
11-26-2014, 04:11 PM
Yo freeze.

Recipe wasn't tweaked it is haste that made some people spend 20m and that was their choice.

Recipe rate was tweaked, lol. There was a patch on it.

Anarchist
11-26-2014, 04:15 PM
Recipe rate was tweaked, lol. There was a patch on it.
True, me forgot. Too much data.

Were recipes bought for 20m before or after tweak? cause before tweak i don't know about anyone looting recipe.

Appeltjes
11-26-2014, 04:16 PM
True, me forgot.

Were recipes bought for 20m before or after tweak?

Before the patch nobody had looted one for as far as I recall so after the patch people bought for 20m.

Energizeric
11-26-2014, 04:22 PM
Hopefully they will just buff the stats to make it worth the effort rather than increase the drop rate. Really they should keep the rarity and just change the imbued crafted versions to be mythic. I'm not just saying this because I have a helm...I still need to purchase the armor and a cheaper price would obviously make that easier for me. But I just want something in this game to be rare that does not come in locked crates.

Anarchist
11-26-2014, 04:27 PM
Before the patch nobody had looted one for as far as I recall so after the patch people bought for 20m.

Ergo if no one looted recipe before tweak and after tweak the first recipes were sold for 20m, its not sts fault and during the period recipes were sold for 20m there was no tweaks. LOL :eagerness:

Zeus
11-26-2014, 04:36 PM
True, me forgot. Too much data.

Were recipes bought for 20m before or after tweak? cause before tweak i don't know about anyone looting recipe.

That can't be verified, can it?

Anarchist
11-26-2014, 04:49 PM
That can't be verified, can it?

Nope. But you are welcome to prove it's wrong.
I was told you crafted a pendant before the recipe was tweaked but since you didnt open any thread showing it until the tweak went live i concluded it was a rumor.

Serancha
11-26-2014, 04:50 PM
Hopefully they will just buff the stats to make it worth the effort rather than increase the drop rate. Really they should keep the rarity and just change the imbued crafted versions to be mythic. I'm not just saying this because I have a helm...I still need to purchase the armor and a cheaper price would obviously make that easier for me. But I just want something in this game to be rare that does not come in locked crates.

There is a difference between rare and ridiculous.

Madnex
11-26-2014, 05:16 PM
There is a difference between rare and ridiculous.
Exactly. The odds are the same with looting planar gladiator gear from Arena master chests. Only that the later drop 100% while the rest drop in a rate of 1/200 runs.

Energizeric
11-26-2014, 06:19 PM
There is a difference between rare and ridiculous.

"Rare" to me means that 2 months after release, I don't go into town and see tons of players wearing them. For example, Shady & Surge is rare. Mythic rings are no longer rare. Nor are any of the elondrian mythic weapons. "Rare" means I don't see multiples of each item for sale in the auction at any one time. Kind of the way arcane eggs are. Sometimes there is a samael egg for sale in the auction, sometimes not. But it's rare to see more than 1 there for sale. That is what "rare" means to me. Once you see them all over the place, then they have become common.