Elite Planar Tombs Chest Drop Rate Log

[Zeus]

Release Date:

- Opened 12
Looted Dark Crystal Mask of Brutality (Rogue)

- Opened 50
Nothing

11/24/2014
- Opened 35
Looted Dark Crystal Heavy Plate of Assault (Warrior)
Looted Dark Crystal Cowl of Force (Sorcerer)
Looted Dark Crystal Cowl of Security (Sorcerer)

11/28/2014
- Opened 11
Looted Dark Crystal Heavy Plate of Assault (Warrior)

- Opened 7
Looted Shade Egg

- Opened 10
Nothing

11/29/2014
- Opened 7
Nothing
- Opened 7
Looted Dark Crystal Suit of Potency (Rogue)

12/1/2014
- Opened 1
Looted Dark Crystal Robe of Brutality (Sorcerer)



Total Opened: 140

Total Dark Crystal Piece(s) Looted: 7

Total Shade Looted: 1

Estimate Drop Rate of Items of Notable Value: 5.7%


*will be continue to update for anyone who is interested*

~Zeus

[Zeus]

Post Reserved.

[Visiting]

Not sure if showoff thread, or, serious thread ._. (Carry on, Zeusnub)

[Zeus]

I do not think they should raise drop rate of chests but instead allow an option to spend one's fragments on an elite planar chest. This will allow those to have a guarantee of obtaining a chest after a certain amount of runs. I would say perhaps 30-40 fragments.

[Energizeric]

I do not think they should raise drop rate of chests but instead allow an option to spend one's tokens on an elite planar chest. This will allow those to have a guarantee of obtaining a chest after a certain amount of runs. I would say perhaps 30-40 shards?

You mean fragments, and yes I agree that's a good idea.

[Visiting]

I do not think they should raise drop rate of chests but instead allowing an option to spend ones tokens on an elite planar chest. This will allow those to have a guarantee of obtaining a chest after a certain amount of runs. I would say perhaps 30-40 shards?

Let's go with 30 fragments, either 30 tomb 1 runs, or 15 tomb 2 and/or 3 runs. (Or, whatever combination of tomb runs you want to do to reach 30). It won't be easy to buy them with shards, but there is a guarantee that if you want em' you can get em' without paying the 800k-1m CS prices or trying to loot one.

[Serancha]

No offense, but of course you don't want the chest rate increased, since you're like the only one who can afford to buy them all. It's all very well to enjoy a monopoly, but it's not condusive to a good game overall.


If we look at the drop rates of chests:

Personally I have done 80 runs in parties of 4 and have not seen a single chest drop. That is 320 runs total, if you count each person as a run, and 0 chests.



Let's hear some other people's number of runs / chests seen ratios, shall we? Then we shall have a bit of an idea on the realistic chances of getting these items.

[Zeus]

No offense, but of course you don't want the chest rate increased, since you're like the only one who can afford to buy them all. It's all very well to enjoy a monopoly, but it's not condusive to a good game overall.


If we look at the drop rates of chests:

Personally I have done 80 runs in parties of 4 and have not seen a single chest drop. That is 320 runs total, if you count each person as a run, and 0 chests.



Let's hear some other people's number of runs / chests seen ratios, shall we? Then we shall have a bit of an idea on the realistic chances of getting these items.

We can increase the rate - I'm fine with it. It is just going to drop the value of the chests and the content inside a great deal. Wouldn't you rather have both retain value? I can get in about 10-20 runs of tomb 3 a day meaning the average player can get a chest every other day. If he gets - that's a good 600k-1000k for the player. Or, a potential chance at 20-30M loot.

I'm fine with it either way. If we go your way, I can get everything a lot cheaper without having to blow through 300-400m gold. :)

[Ravager]

Did you sell shade? Still for sale?

[Zeus]

Did you sell shade? Still for sale?

Gave it away, sorry. I'll let you know if I loot another!

[Ravager]

Ok. Thanks.

[Serancha]

We can increase the rate - I'm fine with it. It is just going to drop the value of the chests and the content inside a great deal. Wouldn't you rather have both retain value? I can get in about 10-20 runs of tomb 3 a day meaning the average player can get a chest every other day. If he gets - that's a good 600k-1000k for the player. Or, a potential chance at 20-30M loot.

I'm fine with it either way. If we go your way, I can get everything a lot cheaper without having to blow through 300-400m gold. :)

I have done 80+ runs with no chest, as have several people I know. So that means you have to do more than 40 runs a day to get a chest every second day. There's a dfference between rare and ridiculous, and this is the latter.

[Zeus]

I have done 80+ runs with no chest, as have several people I know. So that means you have to do more than 40 runs a day to get a chest every second day. There's a dfference between rare and ridiculous, and this is the latter.

Of course - I agree that's ridiculous so having them purchasable for 30-40 fragments from vendor without increasing drop rate is a solution, no? There will be a hard value to them because fragments cost ankhs and time.


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[Serancha]

That would be something, at least.

So if you get a chest every 2 days and there is something decent in 4% (4/100) of the chests, which would be (for arguement's sake) 1 in every 25 chests.

So, let's see.... it would take approximately 2 months (50 days) of 20 runs every day to get a single dark armor or helm - if you were very lucky. At 15 minutes/run average (for some it would take much longer) that is 4 hours of tomb runs every day.

[Electrophiles]

its called da monetization
sts will go to greatest lenghs 4 profit.

dont b surprised if eventually u see something that requires 160+ runs lel
the fact u actually spend 80+ runs shows that sts knows there r rly dedicated players
and they will exploit dat limit!

[Serancha]

its called da monetization
sts will go to greatest lenghs 4 profit.

dont b surprised if eventually u see something that requires 160+ runs lel
the fact u actually spend 80+ runs shows that sts knows there r rly dedicated players
and they will exploit dat limit!

I have also done 70+ runs in arena and seen no recipe drop. However, I don't do runs just for making money - if I did, I would have quit a very long time ago. I play and run elites because I enjoy running with friends, socializing, building skills and competing.

However, it would be nice if STS gave us a way to make our potion money back. Running for absolutely no chance at even a pink worth 100K is getting old fast.

[joydhillon]

Its all about when some few players can do the runs and get something VS when those same few players run and dont get something.
P.s : Also everyone wants dps for arena/tombs X'D provided we dont d.c
G.G

[heisenberg]

100m+ for open this chets..no is a good bussines no?

[Serancha]

100m+ for open this chets..no is a good bussines no?

There is only one type of armour that is of high value. That is the warrior assault version. The others may be worth something, but not the massive amounts people are paying for the assault. Definitely the rogue and mage are not worth many millions. The stat increase is not good enough to warrant that kind of expense. So that actually decreases the odds even more. But we shall see how it plays out.

Curious if the winter event gear will make the tombs obsolete before anyone even finds the base armours to craft.

[SacredKnight]

There is only one type of armour that is of high value. That is the warrior assault version. The others may be worth something, but not the massive amounts people are paying for the assault. Definitely the rogue and mage are not worth many millions. The stat increase is not good enough to warrant that kind of expense. So that actually decreases the odds even more. But we shall see how it plays out.

Curious if the winter event gear will make the tombs obsolete before anyone even finds the base armours to craft.

The probability of the latter statement is quite high if you look at the trends of gear releasement. Take Tindirin, Magmatic Armours of which are respectively tanking gear. Then came Ursoths which literally made Magmatic Armours even more obsolete than they were before, if that is possible any way..

Anyway, the new Winter Event will either have easier to obtain gear with virtually the same if not the same stats as the Planar gear, generally better and easier to obtain gear or completely useless gear. The latter being equally as possibly as the rest.

And on another note we can all recall the fabled gear releasement stages, but have we yet to see anything that holds difference to previous tactics of releasing gear? No.

To conclude I would just like to say that we can never predict what wonders STS is cooking, so for now we can just enjoy the game ;)


P.S. Is Scorch ever going to get a buff? If not I wish I could get a refund :/

[Kingofninjas]

I do not think they should raise drop rate of chests but instead allow an option to spend one's fragments on an elite planar chest. This will allow those to have a guarantee of obtaining a chest after a certain amount of runs. I would say perhaps 30-40 fragments.

How about using essences (maybe some amount of ancient planar essences and/or boss essences from arena, seeing as they are worthless after we have 1-3 sets of cleansed essences)? Maybe that will give some value to all the essences we have rotting away in our inventories.

[Ssneakykills]

I can't be the only one not to see a chest drop in tombs yet?

[heisenberg]

I have luck..i play 20/30 runs all days in tomb2 and 3 an got 2 or 3 elite planar chets everydays..11m in 4 days is a good for farming no for open...i think

[Serancha]

I can't be the only one not to see a chest drop in tombs yet?

Nope, I'm with you! Haven't even seen someone else get one!

[Kingofninjas]

Nope, I'm with you! Haven't even seen someone else get one!


I can't be the only one not to see a chest drop in tombs yet?
I haven't either. I've seen millions of crate drops though and its getting rly annoying to farm a hard elite map and loot a crate. I think crates that drop from elite should be elite locked crates with some extra benefit from locked crates. Maybe make them free to open :)

[Candylicks]

They should allow us to buy crates with essences. After you make the amulet they become liquidation items.

[Haligali]

I opened 4, got dark crystal helm of brutality for mage. Maybe i was lucky with these chests, considering that chests worth 4m, and the helm not worth much more or worth the same, im not gona open more.

[heisenberg]

I opened 4, got dark crystal helm of brutality for mage. Maybe i was lucky with these chests, not gona open more.
omg gz!! u sell it?

[Haligali]

omg gz!! u sell it?
Nah i try to upgrade. Finally something to do, this ghost hunt in arena for recipe is a big gold sink.

Btw imbued gem helm got - 1 armor compared to dark crystal lmfao: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?p=1933996

[Ssneakykills]

Nope, I'm with you! Haven't even seen someone else get one!

Lol my friend just dropped a chest in my tomb run

[Zeus]

How about using essences (maybe some amount of ancient planar essences and/or boss essences from arena, seeing as they are worthless after we have 1-3 sets of cleansed essences)? Maybe that will give some value to all the essences we have rotting away in our inventories.


Put relic away when you don't need it anymore.

[Zeus]

Opened 7 more - Nothing

[Samaeldavisjr]

I have done 80+ runs with no chest, as have several people I know. So that means you have to do more than 40 runs a day to get a chest every second day. There's a dfference between rare and ridiculous, and this is the latter.

yeah...im in same boat. STG just cant figure out a "Happy Medium". Its either arcane rarity on legendary gears or samael drops 25xs in 2 days. O.o lame

[Warhorseman]

Why not just change the daily tomb quest to one like juggernaut from nordr, after finish 20 runs you get a chest

[Zeus]

Looted Dark Crystal Potency Armor for Rogue today! (7 crates!)

[Pollata1246]

0.0...o.0...lucky u...........

[heisenberg]

Looted Dark Crystal Potency Armor for Rogue today! (7 crates!)
wow cost u 14m today for this item...omg so expensive items

[Zeus]

wow cost u 14m today for this item...omg so expensive items

139 crates @ 800k-1m = 111-139m

[heisenberg]

139 crates @ 800k-1m = 111-139m
only can get u and 3 or 4 ppl more?lol

[Caabatric]

patiently waits for new mythic gear to come out at 20m for full set :)

[Zeus]

patiently waits for new mythic gear to come out at 20m for full set :)

Buying Full Mythic Set, 100m for full set.

Gg!


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[Caabatric]

Buying Full Mythic Set, 100m for full set.

Gg!


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You make me fell so poor.....

and 100m for a set that crazy

let us see lvl 31 gun 1.5m old mythic armor full set 1.4m blood ruby 1m lunar 100k grimm 200k.
how to show off and say you bought your full mythic set for 4.2m ahahahaha

[Zeus]

You make me fell so poor.....

and 100m for a set that crazy

let us see lvl 31 gun 1.5m old mythic armor full set 1.4m blood ruby 1m lunar 100k grimm 200k.
how to show off and say you bought your full mythic set for 4.2m ahahahaha

I spent the gold on chests. I don't have 100m, lol. :)

[Caabatric]

yay!!!

[Spell]

yay!!!

5mins after this post Zeus loots 2 Arcane shards xD

[Caabatric]

5mins after this post Zeus loots 2 Arcane shards xD

then i become one of those annoying beggers

[Madnex]

Add 23 more chests opened with one Dark Crystal Gem Plate of Assault (twoxc).

[obee]

5mins after this post Zeus loots 2 Arcane shards xD
He sits in his full mythic home, surrounded by mythic bow windows. His TV remote is an arcane shard. He has 50 TVs.

[Fear]

are the dark crystal items needed to create imbued gear?

[PurEvil]

well the ratio is VERY reassuring xD

[conradev]

Not sure if showoff thread, or, serious thread ._. (Carry on, Zeusnub)


That would be something, at least.

So if you get a chest every 2 days and there is something decent in 4% (4/100) of the chests, which would be (for arguement's sake) 1 in every 25 chests.

So, let's see.... it would take approximately 2 months (50 days) of 20 runs every day to get a single dark armor or helm - if you were very lucky. At 15 minutes/run average (for some it would take much longer) that is 4 hours of tomb runs every day.
Multiply this figure by 4 because you arguably are only finding value in 1 type of armor and helm per class perhaps 2. You looking Potency for Rogue, Assault for mage and idk anything about tanks except that I am an OP one in CTF GF

[conradev]

No offense, but of course you don't want the chest rate increased, since you're like the only one who can afford to buy them all. It's all very well to enjoy a monopoly, but it's not condusive to a good game overall.


If we look at the drop rates of chests:

Personally I have done 80 runs in parties of 4 and have not seen a single chest drop. That is 320 runs total, if you count each person as a run, and 0 chests.



Let's hear some other people's number of runs / chests seen ratios, shall we? Then we shall have a bit of an idea on the realistic chances of getting these items.
I did 5 runs yesterday got 1 chest with nothing in it and 6 runs today 1 chest nothing in it. TBh I dont even know what I'm looking for in them...I still havent read the announcement for tombs release and probably wont bc reading is dumb. I dunt even know what this expansion is tbh...dont care. All I care about is being notoriously bad with money and not selling them, OP Tank CTF GG.

[Dalmony]

Unsure how many runs but I've farmed 130 fragments and in that time dropped 5 elite planar chests of which Zeus bought 3 I'm sure he can testify. Four of those dropped with lep only. One dropped without any luck as I'd forgotten to put on my lep -.-

Also during those runs I've seen other party members drop maybe 4-5 chests too.

[Zeus]

Opened 1 more - Dark Crystal Robe of Brutality (Sorcerer)

[XfrostfireX]

Serancha i do believe that sts has stated several times that tombs is a grind. The gear and loot is supposed to be difficult to get.

[barzagli]

This game is made for Zeus. Jk bro gratz on drops :)


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[Serancha]

Serancha i do believe that sts has stated several times that tombs is a grind. The gear and loot is supposed to be difficult to get.

Hmm? I don't recall saying I had a problem with grinding or things being difficult. However, like most other players, I do have a problem with spending millions of hard-earned gold (or plat) on ankhs and elixirs for absolutely no return.

120 runs for a single chest with a 4% chance of anything but epics inside is absurd. BTW, at 10 minutes a run that is 20 hours of grinding.

[barzagli]

Idk why sts make this drops so hard. I'm just worried that ppl will be leaving and finding other games.


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[Haligali]

Maybe its better with reroll? Or not?

[Serancha]

Chests are blue, so I am starting to wonder if reroll actually rolls off them and into crates or whatever.

[Haligali]

Chests are blue, so I am starting to wonder if reroll actually rolls off them and into crates or whatever.

When i was farming jarl for lockeds, i got many gold chest with reroll. Maybe this works in planar tomb too.

[Sir Lubo Penev]

I got 3 chests now. Not sure how many runs, but I have 81 fragments. I stopped using luck lix/lepre a few days ago.

Also, I'm yet to see a chest drop from reroll (others still use lepres/luck lix).

[Madnex]

Chests are blue, so I am starting to wonder if reroll actually rolls off them and into crates or whatever.
Arcanes are red,
planar chests are blue.
I've never got either,
and neither will you.

[regizakirs.rs]

I can't be the only one not to see a chest drop in tombs yet?
No you aren't the only one

[CptAwsome]

I've looted 2 elite planar chests from about 8-10 runs in tombs both with luck re-roll.


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[Serancha]

Arcanes are red,
planar chests are blue.
I've never got either,
and neither will you.

That's just cold, Aspy.

[Energizeric]

They need to eliminate crates from the drop table of all elite bosses.

[Haligali]

13 planar chest, 1 rogue will helm.. Broke as f now. :'(

[Anarchist]

13 planar chest, 1 rogue will helm.. Broke as f now. :'(

Gold is precious. Now more than ever.

[regizakirs.rs]

He sits in his full mythic home, surrounded by mythic bow windows. His TV remote is an arcane shard. He has 50 TVs.
Lol with SnS as his house pets,

[Zeus]

Well, there are damage elixirs in these crates...just looted one after popping another 20.

[Haligali]

Well, there are damage elixirs in these crates...just looted one after popping another 20.
Just stop buying these chests, maybe they will drop in price. 20m for a damage elixir gg, im not gona open more.

[Zeus]

Just stop buying these chests, maybe they will drop in price. 20m for a damage elixir gg, im not gona open more.

I couldn't even sell it. Bonded to character upon looting. :/


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[Avshow]

I looted 4 in a day about 20-30 runs....coz i
started when having 78 frags and was going for freeze.


Maybe I was luck....but the loot rate is not that low to me....



I have done 80+ runs with no chest, as have several people I know. So that means you have to do more than 40 runs a day to get a chest every second day. There's a dfference between rare and ridiculous, and this is the latter.

[Avshow]

do math easily understand

legendary loot chance <epic loot chance < rare loot chance < common loot chance

let's say L 10%,E 20%, R 30%, C 40%

when u do not wear lep, you have 20% chance to get E

Now you have a 25% lucky elix, then your chance to get E= 20%*(1-25%)+30%*25%=22.5%

SO still have lix better

[Zeus]

do math easily understand

legendary loot chance <epic loot chance < rare loot chance < common loot chance

let's say L 10%,E 20%, R 30%, C 40%

when u do not wear lep, you have 20% chance to get E

Now you have a 25% lucky elix, then your chance to get E= 20%*(1-25%)+30%*25%=22.5%

SO still have lix better

Elixir does not affect crates.

[Carapace]

Hey guys,

I really like the idea you guys brought forth about purchasing Elite Planar Tombs Chests with Planar Fragments. That combined with a small increase in drop rate for the Chests from bosses. We'll be rolling that in with an upcoming update.

-Carapace

[Zeus]

Hey guys,

I really like the idea you guys brought forth about purchasing Elite Planar Tombs Chests with Planar Fragments. That combined with a small increase in drop rate for the Chests from bosses. We'll be rolling that in with an upcoming update.

-Carapace

Thank you!!!

[Ravager]

Hey guys,

I really like the idea you guys brought forth about purchasing Elite Planar Tombs Chests with Planar Fragments. That combined with a small increase in drop rate for the Chests from bosses. We'll be rolling that in with an upcoming update.

-Carapace

Nice. Thanks. Makes sense since Elite Golden Dragonscale can be purchased with teeth as well.

[Kingofninjas]

Hey guys,

I really like the idea you guys brought forth about purchasing Elite Planar Tombs Chests with Planar Fragments. That combined with a small increase in drop rate for the Chests from bosses. We'll be rolling that in with an upcoming update.

-Carapace

How about letting us buy it with planar essences? We already have enough to farm with fragments and essences are really just taking up space in the inventory. I wouldn't mind dishing out 40-75 essences for 1 of these chests since I understand that they are meant to be rare and we already have the daily that gives us 10 essences a day.