Concerns Regarding Sorcerer Strength

[Songoku]

I have a warrior and mage both lvl 14. They both have the best gear i could find in the CS. The differance:

Warrior with yowie equiped

- healt 3200 (3700 when vengfull blood active)
- armor 741
- damage 130 ( when in vengfull blood mode 163 damage)
- dodge 9.35
- crit -2.45. ( 27% when VB active)

Mage with yowie equiped

Health - 1650
Damage - 139
Armor - 410
Dodge - 9.60
Crit - 2.37

I dislike the fact that a warrior has more damage than a mage i mean arnt mages meant to be the " damage king". And by bringing breeze into the game i cant even do 20% damage to them. Im just "food".

and please dont ask me to get better gears coz with decent gear on my warrior i can suvive and kill. And with mage its always deaths. im quitting for now, i'll be back once the buff come

[Hercules]

:O Arrypota is a PRO mage and no weak. The guy can kill a warr and then why you say mages are weak? I believe that you need a good gear

[Serancha]

I have a mage at level 31 with 0 pve deaths. My level 41 mage with all but 2 elite ap's has less than 600 pve deaths. Warrior is easy. They're big and meaty. Mage takes skill and technique, but they are by far the best class for pve farming when it comes to anything except bosses. You don't have to farm deaths, not if you play smart.

Why on earth are you posting comparison stats with vengeful blood buffed? To try and make a point? Buffed stats don't count, ever.

[siddhant]

sts doesnt even tell us by buffing what kind of buff do they actually mean buff in dmg armor health no clue and that buff in shield didnt help much sts...

[siddhant]

I have a mage at level 31 with 0 deaths. My level 41 mage with all but 2 elite ap's has less than 600 deaths. Warrior is easy. They're big and meaty. Mage takes skill and technique, but they are by far the best class for pve farming when it comes to anything except bosses.
hmm he is clearly talking abt pvp here..

[siddhant]

:O Arrypota is a PRO mage and no weak. The guy can kill a warr and then why you say mages are weak? I believe that you need a good gear
hmm aryapotta killed a tank with singe because of his sns watch the video on youtube and u will see and evry mage cannot afford sns (u can t buy it anyway) and if u always vs a mage and tank with almost similar gear tanks always wins ty

[Hercules]

hmm aryapotta killed a tank with singe because of his sns watch the video on youtube and u will see and evry mage cannot afford sns (u can t buy it anyway) and if u always vs a mage and tank with almost similar gear tanks always wins ty

:/

Then:

* Warrior kill mage
* Mage kill Rogue
* Rogue kill Warrior and Mage

D:

[siddhant]

:/

Then:

* Warrior kill mage
* Mage kill Rogue
* Rogue kill Warrior and Mage

D:
pro mage kills nub rogue
pro rogue kills pro mage

[Hercules]

pro mage kills nub rogue
pro rogue kills pro mage

Re lol

[Serancha]

hmm he is clearly talking abt pvp here..

Nowhere does he specify pvp..he just says mages are weak compared to a warrior with vengeful blood buff.....If mages were weak, they would be weak everywhere, wouldn't they.

[siddhant]

Nowhere does he specify pvp..he just says mages are weak compared to a warrior with vengeful blood buff.....If mages were weak, they would be weak everywhere, wouldn't they.
arent mages told to be swapped in pve as well for rogues hmm?

[Songoku]

sts doesnt even tell us by buffing what kind of buff do they actually mean buff in dmg armor health no clue and that buff in shield didnt help much sts...

Exactyly the 10% increase on shild still says * 30% ingnore instead of 40% that is should say. Who know maybe be STS just threw in a joke to see stuff like " the shield is much better now" when in reality they didnt give that 10% increase. It was a prank to see peoples reaction on the matter. Who knows?

[Songoku]

I have a mage at level 31 with 0 pve deaths. My level 41 mage with all but 2 elite ap's has less than 600 pve deaths. Warrior is easy. They're big and meaty. Mage takes skill and technique, but they are by far the best class for pve farming when it comes to anything except bosses. You don't have to farm deaths, not if you play smart.

Why on earth are you posting comparison stats with vengeful blood buffed? To try and make a point? Buffed stats don't count, ever.

Why not? And without vengfull the damage and health is still great end off

[Madxnoob]

Mage is a support in pvp. Their not weak and they set most the timed records.

[Dvsk]

:O Arrypota is a PRO mage and no weak. The guy can kill a warr and then why you say mages are weak? I believe that you need a good gear

I'm sorry but not everyone can afford arcane rings, elon guns and SnS. In a video he fought with a war the only way he was able to win was due to SnS incredible healing. Otherwise he would of been dead in the first 10 seconds. Not everyone can buy a 200m+ pet (and did i forget it's rare too).

[Dvsk]

In low level mages are very weak, however, in end game mages are fairly strong. In end game pro rogue can win pro mage 1v1 with HP SET, which means that this rogue will have no chance vs warrior (need dmg set). Moreover, in end game Pro rogue has no chance vs mage in 2v2, 3v3 or more situation.

Here is the stat of a Lvl41 mage:

900dmg(1000dps), 35crit, 4800hp and 1200 armor.

Rogue:

750dmg(in PvP it would be 600dmg), 45crit, 4800hp and 1600 armor

Warrior:

900dmg(700dps), 20crit, 8000hp and 2200 armor.

Not everyday do I see anyone with those stats. Maybe 1 or 2 in my lifetime. Please may I ask where / who those are from? 900dmg and 8000hp + 2.2k armor for a war is very rare indeed.

[Visiting]

One of the biggest advantages of mage is their huge mana pool, but at a low level (14 in this case) 600-800 mana will do just fine in a Pvp scenario, so without tip-top gear as mage, you're not going to be owning in PVP anytime soon.

[Visiting]

Not everyday do I see anyone with those stats. Maybe 1 or 2 in my lifetime. Please may I ask where / who those are from? 900dmg and 8000hp + 2.2k armor for a war is very rare indeed.

Only War I know of with those kind of stats would be Maarkus and Hell...

[Songoku]

Let me add .

Warrior has 25% chance to stun on normal attack with skyward smash where as a mage has a 25% chance to stun on a charged lighting attack. Whats up with that?

[Serancha]

In low level mages are very weak, however, in end game mages are fairly strong. In end game pro rogue can win pro mage 1v1 with HP SET, which means that this rogue will have no chance vs warrior (need dmg set). Moreover, in end game Pro rogue has no chance vs mage in 2v2, 3v3 or more situation.

Here is the stat of a Lvl41 mage:

900dmg(1000dps), 35crit, 4800hp and 1200 armor.

Rogue:

750dmg(in PvP it would be 600dmg), 45crit, 4800hp and 1600 armor

Warrior:

900dmg(700dps), 20crit, 8000hp and 2200 armor.

These numbers are unrealistic, so I am not sure where you got them.

The following are semi-maxed stats including mythic pendant, mythic weapon and arcane ring. (mythic armour and helm, not imbued)

Mage: 5067 hp, 21.82% crit (with 2 eyes), 851.7 damage, 1192 armour (stats are with Singe and 5 para gems)
Rogue: 4660 hp, 42.63% crit (with 2 eyes), 735.6 damage, 1533 armour (stats are with Samael, and 4 para gems)

My warrior does not have mythic gear so I am not including him, but can guarantee that the stats above for warrior are way out of proportion.

[Seoratrek]

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[Excuses]

The post is kind of not exactly pointing out the problem with wrong comparison, but yes, I have to say mages are squishy like wet bathroom tissue. Poor class.
Hope sts give better armor or hp on basic stat or gears.

[Songoku]

This is a reminder to keep all discussion friendly and constructive. Insults are not allowed. Thanks! :)

Lol K

[Songoku]

The post is kind of not exactly pointing out the problem with wrong comparison, but yes, I have to say mages are squishy like wet bathroom tissue. Poor class.
Hope sts give better armor or hp on basic stat or gears.

That is the problem we are "food" when other team see us they get happy coz "food" entered the battlefield. When good warrior or rouge enters they bring panic and threath. We mages.... Were a joke lol

[Dvsk]

These numbers are unrealistic, so I am not sure where you got them.

The following are semi-maxed stats including mythic pendant, mythic weapon and arcane ring. (mythic armour and helm, not imbued)

Mage: 5067 hp, 21.82% crit (with 2 eyes), 851.7 damage, 1192 armour (stats are with Singe and 5 para gems)
Rogue: 4660 hp, 42.63% crit (with 2 eyes), 735.6 damage, 1533 armour (stats are with Samael, and 4 para gems)

My warrior does not have mythic gear so I am not including him, but can guarantee that the stats above for warrior are way out of proportion.

Well not exactly out of proportion, those 1 or 2 people I said i've seen with these very rare stats (warrior) include hell and maybe 1 other. Who actually do have stats such as that.