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Primeblades
01-12-2015, 10:33 PM
Im very confused with the new gems. Does anyone know what the best grand/perfect gems are for level 26 mage? Or maybe what the best combo of gems is?

Caabatric
01-12-2015, 10:45 PM
look at Hailigali's gem guides very informative and helpful :)
BTW: para gem op for all lvls

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?194971-Guide-Enchanted-Eye-of-Syrillax-stats-per-level-and-comparison&p=2002851#post2002851

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?129359-Guide-Tarlok-Gems-additional-stats

nevercan
01-13-2015, 12:53 PM
Do para,eye and elondra gems

Primeblades
01-13-2015, 01:01 PM
Do para,eye and elondra gems

Is it bad that elondrian gems dont add damage, int, or str? Because i heard str and int are good for a mages shield

Ssneakykills
01-13-2015, 01:10 PM
Is it bad that elondrian gems dont add damage, int, or str? Because i heard str and int are good for a mages shield

Para gems, elordian gems, mana gems and eye gems are all helpful in their own way.

And alordian gems give health which is key for a Mage surviving longer

nevercan
01-13-2015, 01:45 PM
Para gems, elordian gems, mana gems and eye gems are all helpful in their own way.

And alordian gems give health which is key for a Mage surviving longer
I havnt found a way that mana gems are useful

Kakashis
01-13-2015, 02:12 PM
I havnt found a way that mana gems are useful

On my tank twink, my mana gem rarely does, but sometimes I gain 117hp on attack. At the sacrifice of 50max hp, as long as my hp isn't always full, it's nice to get additional heals at times. That said, I'm the only one who uses it and sometimes I feel the loss of 5 str isn't worth it. Oh well.

nevercan
01-13-2015, 03:30 PM
On my tank twink, my mana gem rarely does, but sometimes I gain 117hp on attack. At the sacrifice of 50max hp, as long as my hp isn't always full, it's nice to get additional heals at times. That said, I'm the only one who uses it and sometimes I feel the loss of 5 str isn't worth it. Oh well.
You just sed the gem isnt that good....


:)

UndeadJudge
01-13-2015, 03:33 PM
Unless you want to spend a lot on gems, probably 1 para, rest super glacial. Tarlok wisdoms are slightly better when full super, but it costs a lot to get them. Eyes aren't as useful imo, DEX isn't that useful for sorcs.


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nevercan
01-13-2015, 03:39 PM
Unless you want to spend a lot on gems, probably 1 para, rest super glacial. Tarlok wisdoms are slightly better when full super, but it costs a lot to get them. Eyes aren't as useful imo, DEX isn't that useful for sorcs.

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Str and int is...

UndeadJudge
01-13-2015, 07:17 PM
Str and int is...

Which is why I like the wisdom gems


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Remarked
01-13-2015, 07:49 PM
You Should use 1 para, 1 grand elo gem and the rest tarlok wisdom as undead has said.

Primeblades
01-13-2015, 11:11 PM
You Should use 1 para, 1 grand elo gem and the rest tarlok wisdom as undead has said.

I still dont get whats so special about elon gems. I thought they were only useful for rogues? Dont mages need str for their shield? Once a mages shield is gone they are basically dead anyway

Zeus
01-13-2015, 11:26 PM
If you are a rogue or mage, you will want to do a mixture of para and eyes. If you're a mage, do 1 para for every 3 eyes. If you're a rogue, do 3 para for every 1 eye.

My current build is 10 para, 3 eye and both gems complement each other and make up for each other's weaknesses. The overall result is a rogue with very high damage, crit, and mana with little to no loss in health.



You will want more eyes as a mage because critical is far more noticeable on a mage than a tiny damage increase. You'll still get damage increase via paracelsus gems but you will also gain a bigger critical rate increase.

Kingofninjas
01-13-2015, 11:35 PM
Main thing is your budget. If you want the setup Zeus suggested, be prepared to invest 15-20m on gems. If you cannot afford that, I suggest a mixture of grand tarlok and ur primary gem with 1 eye and 1 para gem. Having 1 eye and 1 para is a must to compete in PvP. After that get as many grand tarlok as you can and the rest grand fire/glacial/blood.

UndeadJudge
01-14-2015, 05:55 AM
If you are a rogue or mage, you will want to do a mixture of para and eyes. If you're a mage, do 1 para for every 3 eyes. If you're a rogue, do 3 para for every 1 eye.

My current build is 10 para, 3 eye and both gems complement each other and make up for each other's weaknesses. The overall result is a rogue with very high damage, crit, and mana with little to no loss in health.



You will want more eyes as a mage because critical is far more noticeable on a mage than a tiny damage increase. You'll still get damage increase via paracelsus gems but you will also gain a bigger critical rate increase.

I think eyes only give 2 of each stat at 26. Maybe 1 eye is worth, but don't see myself using multiples


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Haligali
01-14-2015, 06:21 AM
On lvl25-29, using original gems is not as big disadvantage as on other lvls example lvl10-16, you need 1 para 1 eye obviously, the rest idk, use more eye if you need more crit.

Trikzy
01-14-2015, 07:51 AM
I find those gems good only for twinks

siddhant
01-14-2015, 07:55 AM
at 15 4paras and 6eyes work like a beast on mage and rouges i guess it would be good to have 4para and 6eyes on 26 as well ty.

UndeadJudge
01-14-2015, 09:07 AM
at 15 4paras and 6eyes work like a beast on mage and rouges i guess it would be good to have 4para and 6eyes on 26 as well ty.

That's just because at 15, you don't lose your main stat when using eyes. At 26, you lose 3 per eye which is a pretty hefty amount.

nevercan
01-14-2015, 10:39 AM
Which is why I like the wisdom gems


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:o i confuse those tarlok gems olways -.- and wich stat thet give

Primeblades
01-14-2015, 11:01 AM
That was helpful thanks guys. I think ill go try to get at least one para and one eye for now. Ill do grand wisdom gems on everything els if i can afford it :) thanks

Haligali
01-14-2015, 11:43 AM
1 para, 1 eye, 9 gem slots left if you use mythic helm:

9*88=792hp -45 Int compared to Grand Glacial= ~ -27 dmg (9 grand elon)
9*36=324hp -27 Int compared to Grand Glacial= ~ -15.5-16 dmg +6.03% crit (9 eye)
9*32=288hp -9 Int compared to Grand Glacial= ~ -5.4 dmg (9 grand wisdom)
9*15=135hp (9 grand glacial)

Im not sure about damage, i assume 1 int=~0.6 dmg in stats on lv26 currently.

Primeblades
01-14-2015, 04:35 PM
1 para, 1 eye, 9 gem slots left if you use mythic helm:

9*88=792hp -45 Int compared to Grand Glacial= ~ -27 dmg (9 grand elon)
9*36=324hp -27 Int compared to Grand Glacial= ~ -15.5-16 dmg +6.03% crit (9 eye)
9*32=288hp -9 Int compared to Grand Glacial= ~ -5.4 dmg (9 grand wisdom)
9*15=135hp (9 grand glacial)

Im not sure about damage, i assume 1 int=~0.6 dmg in stats on lv26 currently.

So next to para gems, grand glacial gems give the second highest damage? I think wisdom gems are better tho due to str. Elon gems give a ton of hp but they lack damage, elon gems dont even give bonus damage

Remarked
01-16-2015, 12:17 AM
lol my mage at 26 got 1 para and 1 eye on its helm. everything else is pure grand glacial.