Concerns Regarding Blocking

[Higuani]

Can any dev do something about that?

There are guilds who block with dummys
There are guilds who whine about lvlgap so they MUST block (Go play 41 there is no lvlgap)
There are guilds who block for fun
There are guilds who uses 2 blockers
There are guilds only obsessed by blockers
There are guilds who block they flag till 4 give us slot after some hours we come in and they finish room
There are players who uses second device to block

Is this how pvp is supposed to be? Everyday i go in pvp i get blocked.. sometimes they block with 4.. come on 5v1?
Sts shud make a guild pvp room where your guild JOIN automacly the same team where your guildplayers are. So there are never blocks anymore.

[raw]

What level are you referring to? Blocking in end game is pretty rare, and if I'm blocked I instruct my team to leave.

If you stay and fight your enemies when blocked then you're sending the message to them that you're willing to fight a player down, and that you're okay with them blocking. Actions speak louder than words, so just have your team eject every time you're blocked.

Back in 26 we fought a guild that had alt accounts that they would use to block, and instead of fighting back we either blocked to have an even fight, or left. Eventually this guild stopped blocking because we always left.

Hope this helps, and shame on whatever guild is doing this.

[Higuani]

Playin lvl16-17-18 bracket there is only 1 guild whos does this and on top of that they stack breeze..

Raw, i am not a leaver tbh, Before breeze came out we could win 4-5 anytime.. But now with breeze its so useless we need to leave EVERY map.
I want to play properly the reason they block Always is the LEVELGAP.. Why the first place play twink then? If they whine about it go play 41 there is no LEVELGAP..

Just today i left 7 pvp rooms just because that guild is blocking like madness. Even if we try to swap 4-5 they block us again so its 3-5 how on earth can we play like that?
Everytime i hear the same story YOU 17 blabla.. and tbh there team had 17s aswell.. 1 year ago we didn't had this alot but now its of the hook.

there shud be some fix that if you join pvp rooms you join ONLY the team where you guildie is in. So there would never be blocks!!

[raw]

Playin lvl16-17-18 bracket there is only 1 guild whos does this and on top of that they stack breeze..

Raw, i am not a leaver tbh, Before breeze came out we could win 4-5 anytime.. But now with breeze its so useless we need to leave EVERY map.
I want to play properly the reason they block Always is the LEVELGAP.. Why the first place play twink then? If they whine about it go play 41 there is no LEVELGAP..

Just today i left 7 pvp rooms just because that guild is blocking like madness. Even if we try to swap 4-5 they block us again so its 3-5 how on earth can we play like that?
Everytime i hear the same story YOU 17 blabla.. and tbh there team had 17s aswell.. 1 year ago we didn't had this alot but now its of the hook.

there shud be some fix that if you join pvp rooms you join ONLY the team where you guildie is in. So there would never be blocks!!

There will likely not be a fix to this. Your best bet is to take a break from PvP until the Breeze issues are sorted out, and maybe find a new twink bracket, or level to end game.

[Higuani]

I played before endgame but i can't keep up in items/gold thats why i twink mainly. I made more gold on my 17 ive ever made on 41 tbh
Yeah maybe a break is the solution lol till they fixed breeze. Like i said before breeze we could win 4v5 but now its impossible with that pet lol

Anyway thx to reply raw. i appriciate it.

[davidvilla]

There r more serious issues beside u mentioned mate. Here r few of them
- using 3rd party app for spamming a.k.a mouse recorder or tap recorder
- PC ( chrome users) can change sides without being out of arena. I.e open new tab
- PC users r on top against android and iOS users just because they r just a button away for 5th skill, swap inventory.

Sts has to address these serious issues.

[GoodSyntax]

What level are you referring to? Blocking in end game is pretty rare, and if I'm blocked I instruct my team to leave.

If you stay and fight your enemies when blocked then you're sending the message to them that you're willing to fight a player down, and that you're okay with them blocking. Actions speak louder than words, so just have your team eject every time you're blocked.

Back in 26 we fought a guild that had alt accounts that they would use to block, and instead of fighting back we either blocked to have an even fight, or left. Eventually this guild stopped blocking because we always left.

Hope this helps, and shame on whatever guild is doing this.

Back when I used to PvP and when blocking first started, I'd face off 3v1. I'd stick around long enough to get into a situation where I killed all 3, then say, pffft, no fun fighting noobs and leave. They love it when you do that!

[raw]

Back when I used to PvP and when blocking first started, I'd face off 3v1. I'd stick around long enough to get into a situation where I killed all 3, then say, pffft, no fun fighting noobs and leave. They love it when you do that!

I do this in TDM all the time. I use trees or Trulle as my tank and just snipe and run away after they die =P.
This is why I love TDM and why CTF is just silly...
You rarely hear anyone complaining about TDM since it's being played as intended whereas CTF... ya that's a broken record XD

[GoodSyntax]

I do this in TDM all the time. I use trees or Trulle as my tank and just snipe and run away after they die =P.
This is why I love TDM and why CTF is just silly...
You rarely hear anyone complaining about TDM since it's being played as intended whereas CTF... ya that's a broken record XD

Using Truell and tree hugging is a terrific strategy. Hate all the clowns that say stop hiding noob, come out. Yeah, I'm the noob fighting 3v1....riiiiiiiiight.

[siddhant]

clearly the guild u are referring to blocks stack tanks with breeze like anything just yesterday in tdm i was in a room with a guidlie who was a tank and on my opponent team was a fnf rouge so we killed her once and then i just told her to call a tank without breeze so she said k wait so i waited then the tank joined and again we were able to kill each of them for 2rounds then they just called 2tanks with breeze and i was like wtf i play fair and u....from now on no mercy to fnf just when i see them i kill and when they dont have numbers on their side they just leave gg.

[Seoratrek]

Hi there!

Please remember to keep the discussion constructive and friendly. In regard to the pet Breeze, there have been some proposed changes mentioned here: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?203008-Breeze-and-Undead-Vials

In the meantime I will forward the 'blocking' concerns to the devs. Thanks!

[Higuani]

Hi there!

Please remember to keep the discussion constructive and friendly. In regard to the pet Breeze, there have been some proposed changes mentioned here: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?203008-Breeze-and-Undead-Vials

In the meantime I will forward the 'blocking' concerns to the devs. Thanks!

Wew ty Seoratrek!

Try to make something join guildbased? So if someone say 'join' in guildchat you join that player immidiatly in the same team (no need to chose teams). That would be the best way to stop those blocks. Imo its gettin out of control now. Ive never seen this before like how it is now.
But then we have another problem guild who have allies. Allies can aswell be blocking how on earth do we get rid of that! There comes the 'kick' option that would be very usefull. But we can only kick if 1 team has 3 players from same guild.

I think the main reason players quit pvp are just sick of blockers. There no other things who brings more frustation than that in pvp. I rather be freezed by 5 breezes in 5v5 then 4v5!!!

[Ovtlaw]

Can any dev do something about that?

There are guilds who block with dummys
There are guilds who whine about lvlgap so they MUST block (Go play 41 there is no lvlgap)
There are guilds who block for fun
There are guilds who uses 2 blockers
There are guilds only obsessed by blockers
There are guilds who block they flag till 4 give us slot after some hours we come in and they finish room
There are players who uses second device to block

Is this how pvp is supposed to be? Everyday i go in pvp i get blocked.. sometimes they block with 4.. come on 5v1?
Sts shud make a guild pvp room where your guild JOIN automacly the same team where your guildplayers are. So there are never blocks anymore.

Sponsor me tank gears and I'll farm all those noob for you bro... As u know my ability in pvp :)

[Pirate Captain]

Hi there!

Please remember to keep the discussion constructive and friendly. In regard to the pet Breeze, there have been some proposed changes mentioned here: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?203008-Breeze-and-Undead-Vials

In the meantime I will forward the 'blocking' concerns to the devs. Thanks!
Tell them blocking is bad

[siddhant]

all the above proposed suggestion wont u actually work u say a guildie can join a guidlie but what abt the nubs where do they go? then kick option wont sum1 just kick an undergear player from his team ty?

[kinzmet]

Even guild join is controlled by having the guildie join the same team as the guildmate, this wouldn't warranty a spot blocking free PVP.
My suggestions would be :

Control the joining of guildmates so that he joins the same team with the guildmate his joining (This is Higuani's idea).
Control the joining of friend so that he joins the same team with the friend in his friend list his joining.
Control the joining of partymates so that he joins the same team with the partymates his joining.
When a player joins a random room (where one or more of his guildmate/friend/partymate is there too) he will be automatically be on the team where his guildmate, friend, or partymate was in (in-order of importance).


The only backside of this idea is, you can't 1v1 your guildmate anymore. If you guys can add anymore idea to this then Seoratrek can forward the blocking concerns with our ideas to fix it.

[Higuani]

all the above proposed suggestion wont u actually work u say a guildie can join a guidlie but what abt the nubs where do they go? then kick option wont sum1 just kick an undergear player from his team ty?
Valid point. Aawtch my bad.

[siddhant]

The other major issue is ganging. Please consider having people wait in holding cells when teams are uneven. So if red has 3 and blue has 2, a player from the red team gets sent to the holding room
Holding room sounds like a good idea just there is pro of everything so there is
Con of this idea as well suppose opponent team loses 5vs5 then they just remove their 3players and the 2players left would be full arcane whereas the
First two player on the winning team would be kinda undergeared to fight so i wouldnt actually like my team being torn apart by those arcane players just saying implementing this stuff would actually be difficult for sts to implement especially in a game when players dont want any cons in the given stuff being given out ty.

[RadiantBless]

My suggestion is, the first player who choose a team TDM or CTF (red or blue) become team leader. Which has same function as party (has leader) who can decide to kick unwanted teammates or blocker. The kicked player will be kicked out of the match. And if the leader leave match, the next teammate automatically will become leader, or leader can choose next leader (just as party functioning). Blocker accounts mostly are guildless, or not same guild as anyone. So auto assign team based on guild will be useless. Therefor if an enemy member already become leader in your team, u better leave the match n find new room. But i fear blocker player mostly always find a way to block. So i'm afraid even with this kind of pvp they will still block by always make room with their guildy as leader on on other team. LoL, but hey, its just an idea to make pvp better.

[siddhant]

But even if players leave, at least it will still be 2v2. If they're under geared under skilled, at least it's a fair fight and they have the option to leave. It's better than getting ganged 5v2, right?
Hmm what happens if my team is losing 5vs5 i am near to death and i just leave does this mean one player from the other team gets immediately sent to the holding room and the whole fight has to restart again?there is clearly a lot of ways in which u could be able to exploit this system ty.

[kinzmet]

Actually fixing ganging is simple.
Make the protective bubble in the spawn room permanent, except when the player will leave the spawn room.

After dying in 5v1 the player being ganged will have an option to wait in the spawn room untill the number against the other team will be even again without the risk of being spawn killed.

This is for CTF, I still have no idea how to prevent ganging in TDM at the moment.