Why couldn't the new pet be farmable?

[regizakirs.rs]

First things first before I go any further here. I like what STS does the people who play Arcane Legends. With the release of the new pet Maridos. I checked it out and said cool I'd like to get this pet then, I said saw where it only attainable through the locked crates of the watch[emoji19] . I know that STS is in the business of making money also. They got to feed there families and keep the lights on at the company. Why couldn't they make this pet attainable for people who really can't afford to pop locks all day? I wish they would at least give the players an option to farm the pet or for those who can afford to buy platinum and pop locks. I mean if they want people to play the game them give them something worth playing for. I farm the tombs, arena, elite maps, etc. And what brings me back is the possibility that one day I may luck up on a recipe or fossil or shard. It gives you a sense of accomplishment seeing all your hard work paying off. I mean it seems like that the game is going towards those who can afford to pop locks all day. I know it's part of the game and I totally understand it. But Remiem sent me a message saying they are going to do things to close the gap between rich and poor in this game but, I think making this pet available only through crates is not a good start. I know they have a lot to deal with besides the rich and poor. It's still bugs and mages saying they need buffing, neckro needs buffing etc. It's a lot they are dealing with.

[Rx8]

I wanted to ask WHY DID IT NOT COME DURING THE EXPANSION LOL....

[regizakirs.rs]

I have no idea lol.

[Energizeric]

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?169313-My-last-idea-post

[Rx8]

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?205306-Make-Maridos-change-his-size-according-to-class!&goto=newpost

[oxon]

their is currently a arcane pet you can farm for,necro..but you need a fossil to craft it and they come from locks..but still only wealthy players own this pet..sts need's a reason to keep us crate openers buying platinum,people knew this pet was gonna be in locked crates,it was replacing hammer jaw and glacian,i hope they remove the maul next..arena drops the planar pendant recipe,non plat players want something to farm for they have it..i been playing this game a long time and iv'e learned nobody is ever happy,f2p players complain there is nothing to farm,give them something they can farm for,then they complain it's too hard or it's unobtainable..it goes on and on..their will be plenty of items to farm for once this new cap comes..

[Novyaj Zeanreh]

Simple, bcuz they dont care about poor people:/ if u cant afford them just stare them:D

[regizakirs.rs]

their is currently a arcane pet you can farm for,necro..but you need a fossil to craft it and they come from locks..but still only wealthy players own this pet..sts need's a reason to keep us crate openers buying platinum,people knew this pet was gonna be in locked crates,it was replacing hammer jaw and glacian,i hope they remove the maul next..arena drops the planar pendant recipe,non plat players want something to farm for they have it..i been playing this game a long time and iv'e learned nobody is ever happy,f2p players complain there is nothing to farm,give them something they can farm for,then they complain it's too hard or it's unobtainable..it goes on and on..their will be plenty of items to farm for once this new cap comes..
I know that you can farm neckro but it get got a nerf before it dropped. And you are exactly right. Give the non plat users something to farm it's too difficult. Then the rich players can just pop locks until they get the item they would like. It's just the way of the world I suppose either you have it or you don't and honestly it should not resort to this.

[Serancha]

their is currently a arcane pet you can farm for,necro..but you need a fossil to craft it and they come from locks..but still only wealthy players own this pet..sts need's a reason to keep us crate openers buying platinum,people knew this pet was gonna be in locked crates,it was replacing hammer jaw and glacian,i hope they remove the maul next..arena drops the planar pendant recipe,non plat players want something to farm for they have it..i been playing this game a long time and iv'e learned nobody is ever happy,f2p players complain there is nothing to farm,give them something they can farm for,then they complain it's too hard or it's unobtainable..it goes on and on..their will be plenty of items to farm for once this new cap comes..

The reason for this is because in the 5 months since it was released as "farmable" only one fossil ever dropped - coincidentally that happened at the same time that the recipe rates were increased for a single week - then it went back to never dropping at all. Because in 5 months STS never bothered to fix the drop rate, the only ones who have the pet are those who looted fossils - you guessed it - in locked crates. Never mind the other ingredient, the vials of undead ectoplasm, had drop rates so low that only the insanely rich could ever afford to make this pet.

Hopefully now that it has finally been fixed, the people who this pet was supposed to be for will actually get a chance to obtain it.

[siddhant]

atleast increase the drop rate of that pet i saw one of them coming for 37m and i was like seriously...

[Serancha]

If you are referring to Maridos, 37 mill is not excessively high for the first day of release. That price is only for people who are willing to spend extra to be "the first" to own it. More eggs will become available as time passes, and the price will settle for probably somewhere in the mid-20's, if history tells us anything at all.

[siddhant]

If you are referring to Maridos, 37 mill is not excessively high for the first day of release. That price is only for people who are willing to spend extra to be "the first" to own it. More eggs will become available as time passes, and the price will settle for probably somewhere in the mid-20's, if history tells us anything at all.

20m is nevr possible for a non plat player to earn

[Serancha]

20m is nevr possible for a non plat player to earn

That's just plain not true. I have dozens of members in my guild who have done that and much more platless.

[siddhant]

That's just plain not true. I have dozens of members in my guild who have done that and much more platless.

season1 or 2player?

[Appeltjes]

Gratz I've opened quite a few locks and haven't been "lucky" enough to nab one yet.

Lolol so because the locks didn't give u one it suddenly needs to be farmable?

[regizakirs.rs]

Lolol so because the locks didn't give u one it suddenly needs to be farmable?
I'm afraid that you miss the point here. I would like to see all players have a fair shot at getting the new pet. I knew full well that opening the locks I may not be one of the lucky to get the pet. Why not make where everyone has a honest chance getting this pet? Is that to much to ask for?

[siddhant]

ermm sts are gonna decrease maridos drop rate till the 8plat thingy ends then u can see a sudden rise in the loot of maridos once 15plat comes back then again drop just assumptions

[siddhant]

Go loot 1 or 2 recipes from arena and then let's talk about if 20m is possible for a non plat user. Alternatively, you should have been running tombs 2 and 3 while they were scalable and you would not be making this comment.



I can vouch for this. There are players in pheonix who did not have a single arcane item 6-7 months ago but now have arcane pets, arcane ring, etc. It's mostly from running elite maps and being efficient with luck elixirs.

hmm i will just run out of money to buy ankhs i have heard ppl do 300 runs and still no drop...

[Titanium]

If Maridos was a farmable pet we will discuss it for weeks about " sts fix the drop rate of recipe and maridos " . Everyone who farms thinks he has a 99% chance to get it.

It is a lottery. But one thing I don't understand though. I don't understand how the maximum pack of platinum costs 90$ and you have 10% chances to get something useful. That's what bothers me. Not to mention ... the cost to open a lock crate is 15 platinum normally . NO guarantees to get something in AL with the biggest pack of platinum purchase ( 1700 plats )

[Universalpro]

20m is nevr possible for a non plat player to earn
I started during ursoth event and i have that much
ppl need to stop complaining on forums and focus more on farming/merching

@ post : its an arcane pet, even if it was farmable and wouldnt require anything from plats, it will still be impossible for the poor

[siddhant]

I started during ursoth event and i have that much
ppl need to stop complaining on forums and focus more on farming/merching

@ post : its an arcane pet, even if it was farmable and wouldnt require anything from plats, it will still be impossible for the poor

sure u must be a "pro"i speak for the majority u can call it crying or whatever u want but truth would be truth:)

[Universalpro]

sure u must be a "pro"i speak for the majority u can call it crying or whatever u want but truth would be truth:)
Nah i m not a pro
In any game u need to play smart thats it. There are a lot of ways in the game for non-plat players to earn gold..
It takes time and effort but its achievable and after all its much more fun to earn it the hard way rather than poping up locks and selling arcanes

[siddhant]

I started during ursoth event and i have that much
ppl need to stop complaining on forums and focus more on farming/merching

@ post : its an arcane pet, even if it was farmable and wouldnt require anything from plats, it will still be impossible for the poor

And btw i have seen many so called "poor"ppl own hj and glacian and now dont tell me the crap that they are old arcane pets zzz

[siddhant]

Nah i m not a pro
In any game u need to play smart thats it. There are a lot of ways in the game for non-plat players to earn gold..
It takes time and effort but its achievable and after all its much more fun to earn it the hard way rather than poping up locks and selling arcanes

Nah our opinions differ a man cant make the same amt of gold in 1yr but he can make more money in just 1hr of casino

[debitmandiri]

Nah our opinions differ a man cant make the same amt of gold in 1yr but he can make more money in just 1hr of casino

Bro...ur face looks doom and gloomy
There is no hope that i can see from it :(

[siddhant]

Bro...ur face looks doom and gloomy
There is no hope that i can see from it :(
Ermm can some1 translate it in simple english..ty

[Candylicks]

Sounds like they will continue to offer pets of arcane rarity in both locked and long crafting quests. With the new cap no doubt we will see some more of these things. Something to appease both the paying player and the free player too! Sounds good to me.

[regizakirs.rs]

Nah i m not a pro
In any game u need to play smart thats it. There are a lot of ways in the game for non-plat players to earn gold..
It takes time and effort but its achievable and after all its much more fun to earn it the hard way rather than poping up locks and selling arcanes
Siddhant
During the Ursoth event I made a major error and I blew a lot of gold and it took me months to recover. But once the Halloween and Christmas events rolled in I buckled down and crafted and sold items and ran as many as I could fit in my schedule. The items are there to get them if you spend the time to get them.[emoji4]

[regizakirs.rs]

Sounds like they will continue to offer pets of arcane rarity in both locked and long crafting quests. With the new cap no doubt we will see some more of these things. Something to appease both the paying player and the free player too! Sounds good to me.
I think it would be great for all players[emoji4]

[siddhant]

Siddhant
During the Ursoth event I made a major error and I blew a lot of gold and it took me months to recover. But once the Halloween and Christmas events rolled in I buckled down and crafted and sold items and ran as many as I could fit in my schedule. The items are there to get them if you spend the time to get them.[emoji4]

Mhmm k enlighten me sir so u mean to say u mad 20m in those events without the use of even a single plat?pls enlighten me how u did that sir at max if i see all profits u could have made was maybe 3m by selling para gem hmm another 600k selling the eye 300k by selling blinky and yowie each necrolock u would have sold would have got u a profit of 10k at max
And what else u did to earn 20m i dont even see u reaching 10m ty

[regizakirs.rs]

Mhmm k enlighten me sir so u mean to say u mad 20m in those events without the use of even a single plat?pls enlighten me how u did that sir at max if i see all profits u could have made was maybe 3m by selling para gem hmm another 600k selling the eye 300k by selling blinky and yowie each necrolock u would have sold would have got u a profit of 10k at max
And what else u did to earn 20m i dont even see u reaching 10m ty
These are some of things that I did. I watched the auction house and seen what was selling the most. I listened in places like Paradise Pier, Expedition camp, etc. to see what the majority of the players were asking for. I went and I farmed those items a lot. I'll be honest with you here. Did I make 20 million? No I didn't but, I make enough to get some items that I wanted? You bet. And no only that I held a few times for a rainy day and sold them at a later date for a better profit. You can do it Siddhant it just takes time and effort.

[siddhant]

These are some of things that I did. I watched the auction house and seen what was selling the most. I listened in places like Paradise Pier, Expedition camp, etc. to see what the majority of the players were asking for. I went and I farmed those items a lot. I'll be honest with you here. Did I make 20 million? No I didn't but, I make enough to get some items that I wanted? You bet. And no only that I held a few times for a rainy day and sold them at a later date for a better profit. You can do it Siddhant it just takes time and effort.

Well i find everything in pve just based on luck apart from events where i totally participate the only thing which i like doing in pve is run km3 and farm locks when i am really low on money and need Around 100k i do that ty for ur suggestions thou appreciated:)

[Universalpro]

Mhmm k enlighten me sir so u mean to say u mad 20m in those events without the use of even a single plat?pls enlighten me how u did that sir at max if i see all profits u could have made was maybe 3m by selling para gem hmm another 600k selling the eye 300k by selling blinky and yowie each necrolock u would have sold would have got u a profit of 10k at max
And what else u did to earn 20m i dont even see u reaching 10m ty
Bought locks for 4-5k, crafted necro locks in halloweon and sold em for 45-55k( during x2 myth weekend), about 100-150
3 para gems = 7.5m(no plat spend and no energies bought)
Crafted a lot of elon locks and sold them for 85-95k, 6-7 dovas, vanities and other stuff
+ MERCHING
All of it was possible for any non-plat player.

[Zeus]

I've learned that one cannot help people who will not help themselves. I personally wouldn't waste my time. There are now numerous ways in the game to earn gold so there's really no excuse to state that making gold is impossible.

[Universalpro]

I've learned that one cannot help people who will not help themselves. I personally wouldn't waste my time. There are now numerous ways in the game to earn gold so there's really no excuse to state that making gold is impossible.
Exactly..
Even though most of merching is down, farming is more profitable

[Zeus]

Exactly..
Even though most of merching is down, farming is more profitable

Yep, merchanting is out of the question these days but that is okay...farming is currently a goldmine.

[regizakirs.rs]

I've learned that one cannot help people who will not help themselves. I personally wouldn't waste my time. There are now numerous ways in the game to earn gold so there's really no excuse to state that making gold is impossible.
100% true

[regizakirs.rs]

It took me time to figure it out lol

[Serancha]

Yep, merchanting is out of the question these days but that is okay...farming is currently a goldmine.

As it should be, and should have been all along.

[Kingofninjas]

20m is nevr possible for a non plat player to earn

Not true at all. I have not bought a single plat and only gotten about 1k from free offers in about 2 years, half of which is spent on plat speeding upgrades. I opened like 30 crates total not gotten anything, but as of today I have samael, elond bow and an imbued vest, total which a costs 35-40m ATM and over 50m at the time I bought it.

[Energizeric]

Yep, merchanting is out of the question these days but that is okay...farming is currently a goldmine.

Not true, I've still been doing ok merching. You just have to search for the right items. There is always something out there that the majority of players do not notice.

[Kingofninjas]

Not true, I've still been doing ok merching. You just have to search for the right items. There is always something out there that the majority of players do not notice.

Let's put it this way. The risk doesn't outweigh the pay out anymore. With the constant market crashes and price drops, unless you can sell the item in question within 1-3 days, its risky to buy it. I used to merch like crazy and that is how I reached my first mythic weapon, but now I find that elite farming is far more profitable with much less risk.

I have a friend who is merching and not running elite at all and he just got his mythic weapon for 7m. In the time it took him to go from 2-7m I got samael egg, upgraded my ghoulish to elond bow and got imbued vest, all from running elite and maybe a 100-300k from merching.

[Visiting]

Nab, talk to me in game and I'll tell you safe method for merching that will double your gold over and over.

*PMs Shiny*

[Kingofninjas]

Nab, talk to me in game and I'll tell you safe method for merching that will double your gold over and over.

Hahaha i dont wanna double my gold atm its negative xD.

[Kingofninjas]

You must not have paid attention in math class. Repeat after me, "a negative times a negative equals a positive" :eagerness:

Sorry to burst your bubble but if you double a negative you get a bigger negative. Naaaab xD

[Serancha]

I'll double your gold over and over.

It's a scam!!!!!

(Disclaimer: this post was intentionally misquoted and is a joke)

[Zeus]

As it should be, and should have been all along.

No, because when merchanting is dead...the rest of the market goes after. Where else does all the gold to pop these planar chests comes from?

Farming is fine right now but merchanting and farming both need a healthy balance. If high risk merchanting keeps in the current state it is, I guarantee you the value of planar chests will bottom out soon as well. In fact, chests are already falling! :)

[Serancha]

Where else does all the gold to pop these planar chests comes from?


I'm too diplomatic to answer that.

[Zeus]

I'm too diplomatic to answer that.

Most of the plat farming gold is long gone and spent/distributed.

[regizakirs.rs]

Hahha I got a good laugh out of this. I somehow missed it the first time I read it.
Lol I couldn't help myself but laugh

[siddhant]

There is no hope for this Siddhant guy. He has a defeated attitude. This is the same guy that wanted the pvp leaderboards to be reset because he felt he would be able to make the leaderboard if that happened. After I gave the example that I was able to make the tdm leaderboard within a few months of starting to pvp, he insulted me by saying that I must have no life. Now he's crying like a victim again and wants gold to come easy. People like him do not make it very far in this game or in real life.

Siddhant, please stop posting your negative attitude on these forums. Everything that comes out of your mouth confuses and discourages newer players. Instead of asking for help or asking successful people how to become successful, you complain and say it cannot be done. This is not how the world works, I hate to break it to you.

Edit: Siddhant, refer back to post #21. The guy basically told you that he was able to make that much gold. Instead of arguing with him, why didn't you ask him how he was successful? SMH
Wew first u need to take a chill pill sure u must be one of the experienced player in the game but talking trash doesnt help does it ?if i would just wanna get on lb it would just take me one run of hauntlet with my friends and i will be easily there if u call discussion arguement ur wish and that guy himself told he wasnt able to earn 20m and being negative huh again lol defeated attitude if i had that
I wouldnt play mage just play rouge and get fast kills hmm and when did i say u have no life pls give a link?

[Universalpro]

Wew first u need to take a chill pill sure u must be one of the experienced player in the game but talking trash doesnt help does it ?if i would just wanna get on lb it would just take me one run of hauntlet with my friends and i will be easily there if u call discussion arguement ur wish and that guy himself told he wasnt able to earn 20m and being negative huh again lol defeated attitude if i had that
I wouldnt play mage just play rouge and get fast kills hmm and when did i say u have no life pls give a link?
When did i say i wasnt able to earn 20m?...

[Universalpro]

Merchanting is not out of the question but its very very risky.
What i meant was merchanting is not an option for ppl with less gold.. Thrs no point in taking a huge risk when u have less gold and as it is prices just keep falling... Only myths/arcane weps and commando/arlor vanities can fetch u a profit( considering u can selll them asap within 1-2 days)

[Energizeric]

No, because when merchanting is dead...the rest of the market goes after. Where else does all the gold to pop these planar chests comes from?

Farming is fine right now but merchanting and farming both need a healthy balance. If high risk merchanting keeps in the current state it is, I guarantee you the value of planar chests will bottom out soon as well. In fact, chests are already falling! :)

Good point. I think in an attempt to make farming more viable, STS had all of these events where they kept coming out with better event gear every couple of months. The problem is that after a while nobody wants to spend much on gear that is only going to be good for a couple of months. Last spring, a couple of months after the Tarlok winter event, Tarlok armors, helms & amulets were selling for tens of thousands of gold each. I can remember selling off about 30 Tarlok Fitness Helms for warrior, most for upwards of 30k each, and those were not even the best version (assault was considered better). Take a look at similar items from the last couple of events, and I'd be shocked if you could get more than 2k for them.

I think they need to find the right balance between adding new content and waiting a while when necessary. I think the second half of 2013 and the first half of 2014 was too slow in adding new content, but now the second half of 2014 was too fast. Somewhere in the middle would be best.

Another thing that could help is alternating the type of gear each event has. There is no need for every event to have armors, helms, rings and amulets. Have one event with better armors and helms, the next one could have great rings and amulets, and then maybe the next one should have great weapons. That way the items from each event will have some sustainability. Add a couple of interesting pets and/or gems with each event, and you have enough to keep people interested without killing the market for all of these items. I'd rather see items that are rarer, but better, than seeing the market flooded with junk.

[siddhant]

When did i say i wasnt able to earn 20m?...

Wew i wasnt even talking abt u zzz and btw u just said u earned 20m after ursoth event when i further asked u how u didnt reply as long as i remember

[Universalpro]

Wew i wasnt even talking abt u zzz and btw u just said u earned 20m after ursoth event when i further asked u how u didnt reply as long as i remember
Post no.21 is mine..
Maybe u didnt notice but i did give a small example in one of my posts
Post no.34.. I even quoted ur post o.o

[siddhant]

Post no.21 is mine..
Maybe u didnt notice but i did give a small example in one of my posts
Post no.34.. I even quoted ur post o.o
O.O sorry during post 34 i was sleeping zzz and on this phone i can just view the first and last page of any thread

[siddhant]

Wew first u need to take a chill pill sure u must be one of the experienced player in the game but talking trash doesnt help does it ?if i would just wanna get on lb it would just take me one run of hauntlet with my friends and i will be easily there if u call discussion arguement ur wish and that guy himself told he wasnt able to earn 20m and being negative huh again lol defeated attitude if i had that
I wouldnt play mage just play rouge and get fast kills hmm and when did i say u have no life pls give a link?
PS:time to be rude(u brought this upon urseld:))who do u think u are commenting that i wont go ahead in real life what do u know abt me my grade my personality my family financial status the course i am studying anything u know abt me huh?going personal hmm?

[Mejien]

It would be great if they put back the 250plats for arcane pets just like before. Right now this new pet is costly and super expensive.

[regizakirs.rs]

Please guys let's no be rude towards each other if we all don't mind. I just wanted to know if it was a bad idea not to make the pet farmable versus arcane locks only. Thanks.

[Kriticality]

Listen... 10 tomb 2/3 runs a day is 40 planar frags. Planar chest and breeze and ingot are EASILY available to get and sell. Save up frags, find buyer BEFORE you spend frags, someone wants to buy, go get item for them. You can easily make 100-400k/day. Could have done easily a breeze a week when price was 2.5M. Look for opportunities and suit up. Imo the tombs are currently an amazing place to farm. And arena is about to get wayyyy better with arena chest loot changing. Are you gonna buy genie pet in two days or a month? Maybe but Prob not. Can you make a million a week without too much time commitment? Absolutely.

[regizakirs.rs]

Well stated and I totally agree with you on this. [emoji106]

[Universalpro]

Listen... 10 tomb 2/3 runs a day is 40 planar frags. Planar chest and breeze and ingot are EASILY available to get and sell. Save up frags, find buyer BEFORE you spend frags, someone wants to buy, go get item for them. You can easily make 100-400k/day. Could have done easily a breeze a week when price was 2.5M. Look for opportunities and suit up. Imo the tombs are currently an amazing place to farm. And arena is about to get wayyyy better with arena chest loot changing. Are you gonna buy genie pet in two days or a month? Maybe but Prob not. Can you make a million a week without too much time commitment? Absolutely.
Also the gold u make by selling planar chests

[Arpluvial]

Hey guys! :)

I have cleaned up the thread. Let's keep it friendly and constructive.