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Physiologic
03-03-2011, 04:18 PM
Thread is finished and up-to-date with v1.7.0.1. Please see Yanis' thread for corrections and further updates. (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?18619-Pinks-with-Stats-and-Pictures-Balefort-Sewers-amp-Crafting)

Archers

Lv 55 Raid Roach w/ Auto-Bow: 2 crit, 5 h/s, 4 m/s, 3 damage (thanks Skimmey for letting me borrow this)

Lv 55 Raid Roach w/ Recurve: 2 crit, 4 h/s, 4 m/s, 4 damage (from Fluff and Fryce)

Lv 55 Raid Roach w/ Talon/Shield: 2 dodge, 4 h/s, 4 m/s, 4 armor (from Fluff)

Lv 55 Customized w/ Auto-Bow: 2 crit, 5 h/s, 4 m/s, 6 damage (from Formosa)

Lv 55 Customized w/ Recurve: 2 crit, 5 h/s, 4 m/s, 7 damage (from Moogerfooger)

Lv 55 Customized w/ Talon/Shield: 2 dodge, 2 hit, 4 h/s, 4 m/s, 6 armor (from Yanis)

Enchantress

Lv 55 Mega Mage w/ Gemstone Wand/Bracer: 6 h/s, 6 m/s, 2 armor (from Thatzme)

Lv 55 Mega Mage w/ Gemstone Staff: 4 h/s, 4 m/s, 6 damage (from joe8421 and Kossi)

Lv 55 Mega Mage w/ Gem Blast Staff: 4 h/s, 4 m/s, 6 damage (from MoonYeol and rocket)

Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gemstone Wand/Bracer: 2 dodge, 4 h/s, 4 m/s, 6 armor (from JaytB)

Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gemstone Staff: 2 crit, 4 m/s, 4 h/s, 7 damage (from JaytB)

Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gem Blast Staff: 2 crit, 4 m/s, 4 h/s, 7 damage (from JaytB)

Warrior

Lv 55 Fury Fighter w/ Gemstone Mace: 2 Crit , 4 h/s, 4 m/s, 4 damage (from Ellyidol)

Lv 55 Fury Fighter w/ Gemstone Sword/Shield: 6 h/s, 6 m/s, 2 armor (from Ellyidol)

Lv 55 Fury Fighter w/ Gem Battle Sword: 3 crit, 5 h/s, 4 m/s, 4 damage (from Ellyidol)

Lv 55 Fury Fighter w/ Royal Sewer Hammer: 5 crit, 1 h/s, 10 damage, 1 armor (from Ellyidol)

Lv 55 Fortified w/ Gemstone Mace: 4 crit, 4 h/s, 4m/s, 4 damage (from Wesman Carver)

Lv 55 Fortified w/ Gemstone Sword/Shield: 6 h/s, 4 m/s, 7 armor (from Darkmasulsa)

Lv 55 Fortified w/ Gem Battle Sword: 4 crit, 4 h/s, 4 m/s, 4 damage (from Wesman Carver)

These combos do NOT give any set bonuses:
Lv 55 Raid Roach w/ Dagger/Shield (from Fluff)
Lv 55 Customized w/ Sewer King Scarab Bow (from Moogerfooger)
Lv 55 Customized w/ Dagger/Shield (from Tour)
Lv 55 Raid Roach w/ Sewer King Scarab Bow (from Cryoblade, Yanis)
Lv 55 Sewer King complete set (from jiroununu)
Lv 55 Mega Mage w/ Gem Star Wand/Bracer (from Yanis)
Lv 55 Mega Mage w/ Gem Shard Wand/Bracer (from Magicalbanana)
Lv 55 Mega Mage w/ Sewer Queen Gemstone Staff (from Royce)
Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Sewer Queen Gemstone Staff (from Yanis)
Lv 55 Fury Fighter w/ Gemstone Battle Axe/Shield (from Yanis)
Lv 55 Fortified w/ Gemstone Battle Axe/Shield (from Giggly)
Lv 55 Sewer Queen complete set (from Echelong, jiroununu)
Lv 55 Royal Sewer complete set (from SweetWilliam)
Lv 55 Fortified w/ Royal Sewer Hammer (from Wesman Carver)

Most likely won't create an item set bonus (but not proven yet):
Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gem Star Wand/Bracer: ??
Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gem Shard Wand/Bracer: ??

Kingofhurtz
03-03-2011, 04:39 PM
Glad to know they added at least some ms. Now just a little more armor and I'll consoder it worth buying!

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 05:10 PM
updated. anyone with a fully customized set yet?

FluffNStuff
03-03-2011, 05:10 PM
Raid Roach With Recurve:
4 m/s, 4 h/s, 4 damage, 2 Crit.

Yanis
03-03-2011, 05:11 PM
Customized with talon/shield = nothing
FF with axe/shield = nothing
MM with star wand = nothing

:(

joe8421
03-03-2011, 05:14 PM
MM with gemstone staff 4ms 4hs and 6dmg

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 05:14 PM
Customized with talon/shield = nothing
FF with axe/shield = nothing
MM with star wand = nothing

:(

Oh my :/

Definitely a bug, since they stated that crafted items do get set bonuses.

TO THE BUG-CAVE!

Kossi
03-03-2011, 05:15 PM
MM set with staff- 6 dmg 5 m/s

thanks mystical

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 05:18 PM
Can u guys double check the mega mage w/ staff? Got 2 diff answers

Kossi
03-03-2011, 05:22 PM
sorry, its 4 h/s also

Yanis
03-03-2011, 05:22 PM
Oh my :/

Definitely a bug, since they stated that crafted items do get set bonuses.

TO THE BUG-CAVE!

Check that, I was wearing Crown of Persistence...
Customized set with talon is 2dodge, 2hit, 4hs, 4ms, 6 armor

Sorry for the false alarm.

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 05:23 PM
Check that, I was wearing Crown of Persistence...
Customized set with talon is 4hs, 4ms, 6 armor

Sorry for the false alarm.

Ha, gotcha :)

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 05:25 PM
sorry, its 4 h/s also

What about the m/s? 4 or 5?

FluffNStuff
03-03-2011, 05:25 PM
Check that, I was wearing Crown of Persistence...
Customized set with talon is 2dodge, 2hit, 4hs, 4ms, 6 armor

Sorry for the false alarm.

Any chance you got to test the customized dagger?

Formora
03-03-2011, 05:27 PM
Anyone has the full customized set? I still need the leather.

Major
03-03-2011, 05:35 PM
Awesome good to know, thx Physiologic!!

BuLLitz
03-03-2011, 05:40 PM
How do we know set bonus? Do we have to do the math ourselves or does it tell us?

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 05:49 PM
They dont tell us anymore so we have to figure it out ourselves! :)

MoonYeol
03-03-2011, 05:50 PM
MM with Gem Blast Staff gives the same bonus as Gemstone Staff.

Thatzme
03-03-2011, 05:50 PM
MM with gemstone wand/bracer - 6 m/s 6 h/s 2 armor.
Not sure abt other wands.

Formora
03-03-2011, 05:51 PM
Ok I bought the leather. Here are the bonuses of customized set with auto bow :
2 crit, 4m/s, 4h/s

Yanis
03-03-2011, 05:52 PM
@physio: I like the circular reference we have going between our two threads :)

@fluff: I am on now and later tonight, if someone can lend me the dagger I can check.

BuLLitz
03-03-2011, 05:56 PM
I am thinking they changed the weapon stats for warriors. Before, with Fury, I didn't have this much MANA Regen. In fact, I had about Zero so I stopped using Fury. Now I have 19 and that is without the shield which adds another 6. Someone got a Fury 55 shield I can borrow to check for bonus? I currently have helm, sword, and armor...

Yanis
03-03-2011, 05:57 PM
Also, note that the Fury Fighter base stats changed!

Edit: BuLLitz beat me to it! :)

Ellyidol
03-03-2011, 05:59 PM
FF Set : Sword/Shield

6 H/S, 6 M/S, 2 Armour.

It's VERY PvE based, IMO.

I still prefer using my dex crown over the entire set. The new added H/S and M/S is a bit too much to replace the hit and crit from the crown, as well as its only a little armour to give up.

30 M/S on a bear? :P 10 and we can even spam with no problem.

Edit:

Yeah from 8 Dodge they put it down to 6, from 8 H/S they put it down to 6, and -2 armour on all pieces.

MoonYeol
03-03-2011, 06:03 PM
MM with gemstone wand/bracer - 6 m/s 6 h/s 2 armor.
Not sure abt other wands.

Seems only Gemstone Staff/Wand and Gem Blast Staff gives bonus. Gem Star doesn't, any info on Gem Shard?

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 06:04 PM
@Formosa - can you double-check for damage?

@Yanis - Haha this thread is meant to be short-lived until all these sets are figured out :p Your thread will be the final reference point for all of this

rocket
03-03-2011, 06:09 PM
Mega Mage set with Mega Mage Gem Blast Staff:

+4 H/s, +4 M/s +6 damage

Ellyidol
03-03-2011, 06:12 PM
Also, the 2H FF Sets are :

With 2H Sword :

3 Crit, 5 H/S, 4 M/S, 3 damage.

With Royal Hammer :

5 Crit, 1 H/S, 10 Damage, 1 Armour.

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 06:14 PM
Also, the 2H FF Sets are :

With 2H Sword :

3 Crit, 5 H/S, 4 M/S, 3 damage.

With Royal Hammer :

5 Crit, 1 H/S, 10 Damage, 1 Armour.

The sewer king royal hammer thing works with Fury Fighter armor/helm to make a set? o.o So by extension, would that mean that a Sewer King Scarab Bow would work with Raid Roach?

Ellyidol
03-03-2011, 06:16 PM
Yeah.

I was testing around with 2H, did mace and sword, and only sword worked.

I tried hammer, and the sparkles stayed. :)

Magicalbanana
03-03-2011, 06:18 PM
sadly...nothing on shard wand for 55 MM

FluffNStuff
03-03-2011, 06:19 PM
Did exit it out of inventory then go back in. Sparkles change when you leave inventory.

Doubletime
03-03-2011, 06:21 PM
Ahhhh....the sparkle of a set bonus. Was nice to finally see today.

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 06:21 PM
Yeah.

I was testing around with 2H, did mace and sword, and only sword worked.

I tried hammer, and the sparkles stayed. :)

Sparkles stayed outside of your character screen? As in the field?

edit: Fluff beat me to it.

Ellyidol
03-03-2011, 06:23 PM
Did exit it out of inventory then go back in. Sparkles change when you leave inventory.

For the Hammer?

Edit:

Yes they stay. I exit of inventory, even character switch.

Magicalbanana
03-03-2011, 06:23 PM
no set bonus for shard wand

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 06:29 PM
Elly can you double check to see if the 2H sword is 2 damage and not 3, because actually equipping weapons does weird things to damage.

BuLLitz
03-03-2011, 06:29 PM
Also, note that the Fury Fighter base stats changed!

Edit: BuLLitz beat me to it! :)

Good for you Yanis... thought I had gone loopy. I may still have, but at least there is reason for doubt. :-)

By the way, if a Fury set bonus does not improve Hit%,Crit%,DMG, and DPS, then Fury still SUCKS.

It took me five swings at a Forest Haven lvl 1 zombie to kill it using Fury.
My normal load-out does it in 1 stroke half of the time and never more than twice.

Both Comparisons are using a Bellows Gemstone Shield since I do not have Fury.
My normal load-out consists of Hate Helm, Rooters Gemstone Battle Axe (Yellow), Rooters Gemstone Plate (Yellow) and the aforementioned shield. Compare the stats:

.......FURY.....My Load
STR 208 204
DEX 97 97
INT 21 21
HIT% 83 100
Crit 20 41
Dodge 32 13
Health 704 702
Regen 26 10
Mana 410 410
Regen 19 11
Damage 151/158 165/185
DPS 154 194
Armor 154 126

Rationalle: In BS, you have to kill some of the bosses quickly. So, the more damage you CAN do, the better. Yeah, I am a little weak on the armor but who cares... am usually surrounded by mages.

Ellyidol
03-03-2011, 06:32 PM
Elly can you double check to see if the 2H sword is 2 damage and not 3, because actually equipping weapons does weird things to damage.

4 base and 3 DPS. Just tried it again now on full str.

To be honest, I liked the older sets with no bonus better.

The sets have made bears more useless. We used to be good at tanking with the older set. No M/S, but the call for 30 M/S from a set, along with a total of -8 dodge, -8 HS, and -8 armour was not needed, IMO. I would have rather kept the 8 dodge, 8 HS, and 8 armour in trade for that 30 M/S. 5-7 would have been nice, 10 would have been very good.

The positive end is that we now have MS, but it stops there.

Physiologic
03-03-2011, 06:37 PM
4 base and 3 DPS. Just tried it again now on full str.

Ok fixed it. Weird how they give them a bit more stats, I imagined all of the noncrafted stuff to give +14 stats dispersed...

MoonYeol
03-03-2011, 06:54 PM
Ok fixed it. Weird how they give them a bit more stats, I imagined all of the noncrafted stuff to give +14 stats dispersed...

Just make sure you end up having the same amount of dex, int and str as before you equipped the set. Some might not consider that and count the addition of 2 dex as a point in dmg. Or something like that...

Royce
03-03-2011, 07:15 PM
FYI, sewer queen staff doesn't work with mega mage gear. I didn't expect it to but then I saw the hammer set. Anyway, I hear there's a sewer queen robe at least. I wonder if there's a whole SQ set perhaps...

Ellyidol
03-03-2011, 07:17 PM
FYI, sewer queen staff doesn't work with mega mage gear. I didn't expect it to but then I saw the hammer set. Anyway, I hear there's a sewer queen robe at least. I wonder if there's a whole SQ set perhaps...

Very possible, IMO.

I'm thinking the new SQ gear will replace the old Fury (which will be for paladins). The newest SQ Plate I saw had exactly the same stats as the pre-update Fury, 8 dodge 8 HS 60 armour.

Kinda sad though how dex sets belong to birds, int sets belong to mages, and the str set still fits best for mages, and not bears :( Lol

Magicalbanana
03-03-2011, 07:20 PM
elly i assume when you say SQ u mean royal sewer right?

Royce
03-03-2011, 07:21 PM
Very possible, IMO.

I'm thinking the new SQ gear will replace the old Fury (which will be for paladins). The newest SQ Plate I saw had exactly the same stats as the pre-update Fury, 8 dodge 8 HS 60 armour.

Kinda sad though how dex sets belong to birds, int sets belong to mages, and the str set still fits best for mages, and not bears :( Lol

Yeah the chorus of complaining pallys was to loud to ignore I guess. Personally I think they've gone way too far the other way now with M/s on Str gear, a bit overboard. And I'm also disappointed the mega Mage sets all waste points on additional regen. I don't need H/s on my mage, and I don't need more M/s (I have like 48 M/s now with the wand set and my offensive ring).

Ellyidol
03-03-2011, 07:22 PM
elly i assume when you say SQ u mean royal sewer right?

Yeah, thats only or the Hammer though. Its the only one I've seen that has Royal in it.

I'm guessing they'll add a Sewer King Gemstone Sword and a Sewer King Shield of some sort to complete the set, as well as a helmet.


Yeah the chorus of complaining pallys was to loud to ignore I guess. Personally I think they've gone way too far the other way now with M/s on Str gear, a bit overboard. And I'm also disappointed the mega Mage sets all waste points on additional regen. I don't need H/s on my mage, and I don't need more M/s (I have like 48 M/s now with the wand set and my offensive ring).

True.

The 30 MS gain for the bear vs the 8 dodge, 8 hs, and 8 armour loss isn't worth it. I still bypass the entire set by just using a 56 dex crown allowing me to have more hit.

Again, the most decent set and result stats seem to be the dex one still.

Magicalbanana
03-03-2011, 07:25 PM
the plate is in shop elly and @royce i agree at the around 40 ms it gets to a point where its just not necessary. they should redirect thhe MM bonus towards some crit, or hit, dodge. maybe even some HP?

Ellyidol
03-03-2011, 07:27 PM
Oops, your right. Didn't notice the Royal.

So yeah, for the Str set I'm assuming they have Royal in them. So its just RS (Royal Sewer) for str :P

Royce
03-03-2011, 07:30 PM
the plate is in shop elly and @royce i agree at the around 40 ms it gets to a point where its just not necessary. they should redirect thhe MM bonus towards some crit, or hit, dodge. maybe even some HP?

The main things I was hoping for were Crit, Dodge, or a little Hit. Honestly the MM sets are mostly just for sparkle. People can argue with me all they want, but I still see no reason to want H/s on my mage, and the gear already gives 8 M/s a piece so more from the bonus is just not really needed (and absolutely ridiculous overkill for the wand set).

Magicalbanana
03-03-2011, 07:33 PM
hahah noone will argue with you, and h/s is pointless for mages with their heal. just wait 2 more seconds to gain ur life from a heal whiel other mages are healing too. the only significant reason a mage would need h/s would be if he was a pally, to be able to survive with no mana= therefore using str gear.... which just about ends that point.

WhoIsThis
03-03-2011, 10:45 PM
I suppose that this won't mollify unhappy people, so I imagine that there will be more changes after this ...

Mega mage right now is a matter of compromise. Yes armor is great and base damage is good, but I think they should have added some sort of crit bonus as Royce pointed out. Right now, for whatever reason, I still am not comfortable with the mega mage set. It just doesn't feel for whatever reason like a "worthy" successor to the shadow/cosmos sets. I know it is better overall, but I still don't feel well, like I enjoy the set so to speak.

Formora
03-04-2011, 01:05 AM
@Formosa - can you double-check for damage?

@Yanis - Haha this thread is meant to be short-lived until all these sets are figured out :p Your thread will be the final reference point for all of this


Sorry, my bad. Stats on customized set with auto bow are :

2 crit, 4 h/s, 4m/s and 6 damage.

Physiologic
03-04-2011, 01:22 AM
Sorry, my bad. Stats on customized set with auto bow are :

2 crit, 4 h/s, 4m/s and 6 damage.

Fixed, thanks a bunch.

Hmm...I dont get why the Customized Recurve gets an extra +2 bonus stat points, I'd imagine the same amount of bonus stats being distributed differently.

Formora
03-04-2011, 01:42 AM
Fixed, thanks a bunch.

Hmm...I dont get why the Customized Recurve gets an extra +2 bonus stat points, I'd imagine the same amount of bonus stats being distributed differently.

I checked again, and I'm really confused. I have the custom cap and leather on, and the auto bow unequipped. When I highlight the bow, it says it only adds 12 hit, 10 crit, 6 h/s, 10 armor and 136-175 damage. However when it's equipped I get an extra 2 hit, 2 crit, 5 h/s, 4 m/s, 8 damage and 1 armor. Is all that from the set bonus? I don't have any vanity or rings on.

Physiologic
03-04-2011, 01:44 AM
I checked again, and I'm really confused. I have the custom cap and leather on, and the auto bow unequipped. When I highlight the bow, it says it only adds 12 hit, 10 crit, 6 h/s, 10 armor and 136-175 damage. However when it's equipped I get an extra 2 hit, 2 crit, 5 h/s, 4 m/s, 8 damage and 1 armor. Is all that from the set bonus? I don't have any vanity or rings on.

The discrepancy lies in the added DEX from the gear. Do you mind if a borrow your gear right now to check it out?

Formora
03-04-2011, 01:54 AM
The discrepancy lies in the added DEX from the gear. Do you mind if a borrow your gear right now to check it out?

So how can you differentiate set bonus from dex bonus?

Physiologic
03-04-2011, 01:57 AM
So how can you differentiate set bonus from dex bonus?

Use these equations to figure out what DEX adds. (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?20606-How-to-calculate-your-attributes-using-STR-DEX-and-INT)

Luckily, I didn't have to use those equations because I have an old chart instead with stats before the set bonuses were implemented, so I just had to compare between the two :p

Formora
03-04-2011, 02:01 AM
Use these equations to figure out what DEX adds. (http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?20606-How-to-calculate-your-attributes-using-STR-DEX-and-INT)

Luckily, I didn't have to use those equations because I have an old chart instead with stats before the set bonuses were implemented, so I just had to compare between the two :p

Ah cool, well as long as you recorded the right bonuses I'm happy :)

Echelong
03-04-2011, 04:59 AM
Sewer queens set with sewer staff give 0 set bonus. Blah

Ellyidol
03-04-2011, 07:40 AM
Correction.

Fury Set + Fury Mace does give a bonus, didn't realise I was using a crafted mace.

Bonus is : 2 Crit , 4 H/S, 4 M/S, 4 damage

Physiologic
03-04-2011, 12:56 PM
updated with corrections!

Yanis
03-04-2011, 02:17 PM
Does no one have a fortified or enchanted set? Anyone with a customized dagger?

Royce
03-04-2011, 02:21 PM
Does no one have a fortified or enchanted set? Anyone with a customized dagger?

Enchanted gear is totally bogus. I enchanted a wand just for kicks, but I can't imagine any mage dumb enough to enchant a whole set of good MM gear to wind up with 30-some H/s and only a handful of natural M/s. The set bonus for enchanted would have to provide at least 25 M/s or so for that gear to make sense for anyone to use on anything but an Int hybrid (like an Int bear), and I very much doubt that it does. I suspect it will be a long while before we find out the bonuses for the useless sets...

Hullukko
03-04-2011, 03:05 PM
But fortified is not useless and even I saw a sparkly pally yesterday in cs who claimed to be wearing fortifieds instead of furies when asked him about it.
Didn't get the bonuses from him before he split though, but I'm certain there enough fortifieds out there that we'll get the set bonuses soon enough.

Though now that the fury got modified I'm guessing there will be bears going for fortifieds and pallies back to fury.

Totally agree with the enchanted.

Addicted
03-04-2011, 03:44 PM
I assume the answer is no, but was wondering if anyone has checked for set bonuses on the level 51 and 53 sets. The update date notes didn't say it was only level 55. In the past, there wasn't an option for level 46 and 48 rift or cosmos items...

Just wondering.

Royce
03-04-2011, 03:47 PM
I assume the answer is no, but was wondering if anyone has checked for set bonuses on the level 51 and 53 sets. The update date notes didn't say it was only level 55. In the past, there wasn't an option for level 46 and 48 rift or cosmos items...

Just wondering.

I've heard from several sources that non-55 items don't work for the bonuses. And there is one case where this happened in the past. You are correct that C/V/R items don't come in any level other than 50, and Voodoo Master gear is only available as 35, but a couple pieces from both the Copperhead's and Swamp Rat's level 35 sets do show up as level 33, etc (the Copperhead Trident, and Swamp Rat wing for instance). Not that I have ever tried those with the swamp sets, just thought I'd mention it ;)

Ellyidol
03-04-2011, 04:11 PM
There are a few fortified sets being used out there. I have yet to confirm the figures, but from what I hear they're decent for bears.

Edit:

Darkmasulsa has a fortified set, and he told me the bonus stats are :

1 Health (might just be from the additional Str), 6 HS, 4 MS, 7 Armour.

This is a Fortified Gemstone Sword+Shield Set.

WhoIsThis
03-04-2011, 05:45 PM
There are a few fortified sets being used out there. I have yet to confirm the figures, but from what I hear they're decent for bears.

Edit:

Darkmasulsa has a fortified set, and he told me the bonus stats are :

1 Health (might just be from the additional Str), 6 HS, 4 MS, 7 Armour.

This is a Fortified Gemstone Sword+Shield Set.

If the fortified has a set bonus, the mastermind and henchman should also be checked.

Royce
03-04-2011, 05:46 PM
If the fortified has a set bonus, the mastermind and henchman should also be checked.

You're thinking of Bodyguard ;) Fortified is the equivalent of Customized and Enchanted.

WhoIsThis
03-04-2011, 05:52 PM
You're thinking of Bodyguard ;) Fortified is the equivalent of Customized and Enchanted.

Lol. I just realized that myself. Long day at work and not thinking straight.

I don't suppose that we'll know what mega mage (when crafted into enchanted) has to offer. Unless someone is very rich and willing to sacrifice a mega mage set anyways.


Edit: Speaking of fortified, what are the set bonuses?

Ellyidol
03-04-2011, 05:53 PM
I just posted it up there :P

Thats Sword+Shield set though.

WhoIsThis
03-04-2011, 05:56 PM
You're thinking of Bodyguard ;) Fortified is the equivalent of Customized and Enchanted.

Speaking of purples, come to think of it, has anyone tried? Perhaps if the devs made purples and greens more closer in stats to pinks than before, maybe they too have some sort of set bonus?

Physiologic
03-04-2011, 05:58 PM
Elly can you try Fortified Helm + Fortified Armor + Royal Sewer Hammer?

From asommer's thread on the patch, I guess the FF Helm/FF Armor/Royal Sewer Hammer is the extra set for warriors.

So that's 6 sets for mages/archers and 7 (or possibly 8) for warriors.

Ellyidol
03-04-2011, 05:59 PM
I lack the Customized Armour, since I just looked at Dark's stats and took down the set bonuses. I don't have a Fortified set yet :P

Edit:

Thats true, but I don't get why they didn't mention anything about the changes to the Fury set. Did all the MM and RR pieces stats get changed too?

WhoIsThis
03-04-2011, 06:08 PM
I lack the Customized Armour, since I just looked at Dark's stats and took down the set bonuses. I don't have a Fortified set yet :P

Edit:

Thats true, but I don't get why they didn't mention anything about the changes to the Fury set. Did all the MM and RR pieces stats get changed too?

At the rate that they are changing stats, it wouldn't surprise me if there were more things changed than unchanged among the sewers gear. It's entirely possible that mega mage could get as big an overhaul as fury fighter. Speaking of which, it's also possible that fury itself could be overhauled again to be more bear-suitable, especially if enough bears complain about it.

Ellyidol
03-04-2011, 06:10 PM
At the rate that they are changing stats, it wouldn't surprise me if there were more things changed than unchanged among the sewers gear.

True, but its just Fury thats changed with this patch though.

Just looked at RR and MM, they still have the same original stats + the bonus they get.

TBH, I'd rather the original Fury stats + a bonus with a bit of MS or such.

WhoIsThis
03-04-2011, 06:12 PM
@Physiologic:

Somebody just told me that the enchanted gem star and gem shard wants don't give bonuses. Third hand knowledge as I've never met the player (grr ... I can't even remember his/her name; too many people have randomly generated names these days).

Edit: On the other hand, this may be expected as only the gemstone wands seem to give set bonuses.

Physiologic
03-04-2011, 06:33 PM
@Physiologic:

Somebody just told me that the enchanted gem star and gem shard wants don't give bonuses. Third hand knowledge as I've never met the player (grr ... I can't even remember his/her name; too many people have randomly generated names these days).

Edit: On the other hand, this may be expected as only the gemstone wands seem to give set bonuses.

Yeah it looks that way based on trends and I agree too. If anyone can double-check this then I'll put it up as none.

WhoIsThis
03-04-2011, 06:45 PM
Yeah it looks that way based on trends and I agree too. If anyone can double-check this then I'll put it up as none.

I can't remember the name of the player. Grr. And that mage was one of the few that I have met so far that had a set of full enchanted stuff.

It's probably also safe to rule out that there will be any bonuses with enchanted and mega mage with sewer queen stuff too. Same with customized and raid roach with sewer king, along with fortified and fury fighter with royal sewer. They seem to be completely separate sets. The way things are going, we're probably going to see a series of full sewer queen/king/royal sewer sets out very soon. Maybe they too will have their own crafted variants.


Edit: Somewhat related. Has anyone seen any bonuses with the crowns of persistence and any combination of these sets?

Ellyidol
03-04-2011, 06:48 PM
I think only Gemstone gear have the ability to finish off sets too.

ALS said in a previous post that they were going to add sets for Crowns, there's none atm.

Echelong
03-04-2011, 07:03 PM
Devs should also fix the crowns mages don't need h/s we want our mana regen back. Crown of prestige would be great if it provided mages with mana regen instead.

Kindread
03-04-2011, 07:15 PM
I don't see why the Crown of Persistence won't complete a Gemstone set. My Dex crown is basically a crafted Raid Roach's Gemstone Cap with better armor rating.

Echelong
03-04-2011, 07:17 PM
I don't see why the Crown of Persistence won't complete a Gemstone set. My Dex crown is basically a crafted Raid Roach's Gemstone Cap with better armor rating.

ALS said they will add that.

Ellyidol
03-04-2011, 07:18 PM
I don't see why the Crown of Persistence won't complete a Gemstone set. My Dex crown is basically a crafted Raid Roach's Gemstone Cap with better armor rating.

Agree. At the least it should complete a set, if they don't, they become a vanity helm used in towns only.

ALS did reply to your post though saying that they will add them :)

Bonniewinters
03-04-2011, 08:08 PM
I have all 55 mega mage gear with both staffs and I'm not seeing a bonus with either....

jiroununu
03-04-2011, 08:11 PM
Sewer king set has no set bonus for archer and Mage. Confirmed with my friend with full set. Not sure about str set but I believe they won't have set bonus either.

Royce
03-04-2011, 08:15 PM
I have all 55 mega mage gear with both staffs and I'm not seeing a bonus with either....

They work for me. Are you sure everything is 55 and none are enchanted?

RedRyder
03-04-2011, 08:58 PM
so you cant mix and match 51,53 and 55's? and are there sets for full 51,53, and 55?

Ellyidol
03-04-2011, 09:02 PM
so you cant mix and match 51,53 and 55's? and are there sets for full 51,53, and 55?

Yeah they only work with 55s, much like only 55s work with crafting.

RedRyder
03-04-2011, 09:04 PM
Yeah they only work with 55s, much like only 55s work with crafting.

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Bonniewinters
03-04-2011, 09:19 PM
They work for me. Are you sure everything is 55 and none are enchanted?

Omg. I was using a sewer helm and bought a mega Mage to try out the bonus. The one I bought was a 53! Got a 55 now and it's working nicely!

Kindread
03-04-2011, 09:25 PM
Yeah but I chatted with Cinco in the Chatbox and he said it sounds like a good idea to have crowns complete set and he'll think about it. Not necessarily saying itll be done anytime soon. So don't hold your breath hehe.

RedRyder
03-04-2011, 09:32 PM
Yeah but I chatted with Cinco in the Chatbox and he said it sounds like a good idea to have crowns complete set and he'll think about it. Not necessarily saying itll be done anytime soon. So don't hold your breath hehe.

theres no way theyd make it so it only completes a set if its with the crown. thats just wrong.
if anything theyd give it an added bonus along with the original set

Echelong
03-04-2011, 09:43 PM
What I think they would do is make another set that completes with the crown and the other sets.

PvpLegend
03-04-2011, 10:13 PM
so basically...
full sewer king set has no sparklez ? ;(

Tour
03-05-2011, 01:50 AM
Lv 55 Customized w/ Dagger/Shield: ??

Wearing Customized Cap, Leather, Dagger, and Shield. Gives no bonus.

I assume they haven't added it yet, since you also don't get any bonus for the none customized version.

Tour
03-05-2011, 01:56 AM
So customized recurve set vs raid roach recurve set...

you said ~5 dex = ~+1 dmg, so basically the overall trade-off is

-10 damage for +2 crit, +23 H/S, +4 M/S. I dunno, i'm still not convinced.

Joshooaaa
03-05-2011, 01:15 PM
Ty physiologic! Good post! Now I can plan out my final gear.... This isn't going to be cheap!

Yanis
03-05-2011, 02:08 PM
Wish I had seen that someone had tested the customized dagger before I spent 150k... Also, it's strange that the sewer weapons create sets with rr, mm, and ff, but not with other sewer items.

Physiologic
03-05-2011, 02:15 PM
Wish I had seen that someone had tested the customized dagger before I spent 150k... Also, it's strange that the sewer weapons create sets with rr, mm, and ff, but not with other sewer items.

It's only the Royal Sewer Hammer that creates a set w/ Fury Fighter (not sure about Fortified + Royal Sewer Hammer) - I don't think the other Sewer weapons will create a set bonus like Royal Sewer+FF. I am certain that this was the extra item set for warriors that Asommers said in his announcement thread.



More new items added to Balefort Sewers!
Added new Gemstone item sets to Balefort Sewers!
Added item sets for crafted equipment in Balefort Sewers!
Added an item set for Warriors to Balefort Sewers.


He just said "an" item set for Warriors, so maybe it's just FF+Royal Sewer, and Fortified+Royal Sewer may not work.

WhoIsThis
03-06-2011, 06:55 PM
I think only Gemstone gear have the ability to finish off sets too.

ALS said in a previous post that they were going to add sets for Crowns, there's none atm.

Gem blast staff as was pointed above appears to be the only exception here. Both mega mage staffs seem to cause the combo bonus to appear.

It's safe to say that there are 2 2-handed weapons for each side and 1 1-handed weapon for each type that causes bonus. Royal sewer hammer being the only known exception.

lindacn
03-06-2011, 09:40 PM
My items: Mega Mage w/ Enchanted Gemstone Wand/Mega Mage Bracer = Nothing

WhoIsThis
03-06-2011, 09:50 PM
My items: Mega Mage w/ Enchanted Gemstone Wand/Mega Mage Bracer = Nothing

They must all be the level 55 versions. Plus you can't have a mega mage and an enchanted version together. Must be all mega mage or all enchanted for bonus.

lindacn
03-06-2011, 10:01 PM
Yes,all LV55. But I'm not rich enough to craft others.

Rolocoaster
03-06-2011, 10:42 PM
I hope there is a set bonus for sewer queen set soon. I spent a good amount of gold under the impression that it was gonna have a set bonus accordinto the update they put out because it said added gemstone set bonus and sewer queen set is made up of sewer queen GEMSTONE cowl , sewer queen GEMSTONE robe, sewer queen GEMSTONE staff. So I thougt this was one of the gemstone sets that they were talkinabout

Luchta
03-07-2011, 03:13 AM
RR set with Custom Auto-bow has no bonus. Did they change it?

Physiologic
03-07-2011, 03:14 AM
RR set with Custom Auto-bow has no bonus. Did they change it?

The Raid Roach set and the Customized (crafted) set are completely different. If you craft your Raid Roach Gemstone Auto-Bow into a Customized Auto-Bow, you lose out on the Raid Roach set bonus.

Luchta
03-07-2011, 03:16 AM
Ahh thanks that clears it out.

WesmanCarver
03-10-2011, 10:00 AM
Tried out the Fortified Helm, Fortified Plate, and the Fortified Battle Sword. I get +4 crit, +4 M/S, +4 H/S, and +4 damage with the set.

JaytB
03-11-2011, 03:57 AM
Enchanted set-gemstone wand/bracer:
armor: +6
h/s: +4
m/s: +4

Other stats changed (probably because of increase in INT):
Hit %: +2
dodge: +2
dmg (min/max): +1

I tested it on my lv 55 pure int Mage.

Royce
03-11-2011, 08:41 AM
Enchanted set-gemstone wand/bracer:
armor: +6
h/s: +4
m/s: +4

Other stats changed (probably because of increase in INT):
Hit %: +2
dodge: +2
dmg (min/max): +1

I tested it on my lv 55 pure int Mage.

You can't get 2 dodge from 12 Int. It would take about 400 Int for that, so the dodge has to be part of the set bonus. Also that would make sense since the other crafted sets have a couple additional stat points over the non-crafted bonus. I think maybe 1 other point would be from the set bonus too, but 1 Hit% in a bonus doesn't make much sense, maybe the damage, but that does go up with Int as does Hit% so it's hard to say...

Yanis
03-11-2011, 10:03 AM
No set bonus for Lv55 Raid Roach with Sewer King Bow.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff500/EddyFreddy/22406963.jpg

Confirmed that this does not give bonus, also confirming that mm with sewer staff does not give bonus.

Ellyidol
03-11-2011, 10:05 AM
Confirmed that this does not give bonus, also confirming that mm with sewer staff does not give bonus.

So this also confirms that the additional set warriors have is RS Hammer with FF armour?

JaytB
03-11-2011, 10:22 AM
You can't get 2 dodge from 12 Int. It would take about 400 Int for that, so the dodge has to be part of the set bonus. Also that would make sense since the other crafted sets have a couple additional stat points over the non-crafted bonus. I think maybe 1 other point would be from the set bonus too, but 1 Hit% in a bonus doesn't make much sense, maybe the damage, but that does go up with Int as does Hit% so it's hard to say...

You must be right (since you always are) about the +2% dodge attribute
I also just noticed that critical hit gets +1...

If you want, I'll lend you the set (if you promise to give it back :)) or show you the stats, so you can figure it out. You clearly are waaaaay more knowledgeable than me. You could also take it for a test-run if you'd want. Not sure whether you'd like it or not though. I'm liking it more than I thought I would, and with a 3m/s ring the mana regen isn't all that bad (14m/s).

The set bonus is most likely (with maybe one additional point as noted by Royce)
armor: +6
h/s: +4
m/s: +4
Dodge: +2%

Royce
03-11-2011, 10:32 AM
Thanks JaytB. I would love to check it out. I have both Enchanted staffs as well, so we could finally get all the mage set bonuses :) I've got a semi busy afternoon, but I'll add you when I get on later.

Physiologic
03-11-2011, 02:04 PM
You must be right (since you always are) about the +2% dodge attribute
I also just noticed that critical hit gets +1...

If you want, I'll lend you the set (if you promise to give it back :)) or show you the stats, so you can figure it out. You clearly are waaaaay more knowledgeable than me. You could also take it for a test-run if you'd want. Not sure whether you'd like it or not though. I'm liking it more than I thought I would, and with a 3m/s ring the mana regen isn't all that bad (14m/s).

The set bonus is most likely (with maybe one additional point as noted by Royce)
armor: +6
h/s: +4
m/s: +4
Dodge: +2%

I'll put these bonuses down for now.

JaytB
03-11-2011, 07:06 PM
@Royce

I've sent you a pm a couple of hours ago. Let me know when and where you want to meet pls.

Physiologic
03-23-2011, 07:53 PM
Thread bump, would be much appreciated if anyone could provide info on missing set bonuses, or just post it in Yanis' thread.

Diodge
03-25-2011, 12:15 PM
info on missing set bonuses? maybe maybe with mini update today

Jinlac
03-25-2011, 12:34 PM
info on missing set bonuses? maybe maybe with mini update today

my sk set is not sparkling tho :/ sry to disappoint u^^

JaytB
03-26-2011, 10:53 AM
Edit: updated stats (see below)

Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gemstone Staff: 4 m/s, 4 h/s, 7 dmg, 2% crit

Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gem Blast Staff: 4 m/s, 4 h/s, 7 dmg, 2% crit



14 int points causes a 0.28 increase in m/s, so unless your m/s had a decimal value of greater than or equal to 'x.72' then it would probably just be 4 m/s.

Use this equation

M/s = 0.78 + (INT x 0.02) + M/s from equips

without your gear equipped, and then equip all the Enchanted stuff. The difference from the calculated m/s versus the equipped Enchanted gear should give you the more accurate value.

Without gear
Int= 277
m/s from equipment= 0 m/s

So: 0,78+(277 x 0.02)+0 = 6.32

With gear
Int= 333
m/s from eq= 0

So: 0,78+(333 x 0.02)+0 = 7.44

and total m/s with gear is 11 m/s, so
11m/s - 7.44 m/s = 3.56 m/s

So with rounding of m/s in stats window I'd say m/s is indeed 4 m/s.

Correct me if I'm wrong :)

Physiologic
03-26-2011, 02:33 PM
Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gemstone Staff: 5 m/s, 4 h/s, 7 dmg, 2% crit

Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gem Blast Staff: 5 m/s, 4 h/s, 7 dmg, 2% crit

About the 5 m/s: could be 4 m/s with 1 m/s because of the 14 int points. Not sure how to test this though *Confused gaze*

14 int points causes a 0.28 increase in m/s, so unless your m/s had a decimal value of greater than or equal to 'x.72' then it would probably just be 4 m/s.

Use this equation

M/s = 0.78 + (INT x 0.02) + M/s from equips

without your gear equipped, and then equip all the Enchanted stuff. The difference from the calculated m/s versus the equipped Enchanted gear should give you the more accurate value.

Yanis
03-28-2011, 02:20 PM
14 int points causes a 0.28 increase in m/s, so unless your m/s had a decimal value of greater than or equal to 'x.72' then it would probably just be 4 m/s.

Use this equation

M/s = 0.78 + (INT x 0.02) + M/s from equips

without your gear equipped, and then equip all the Enchanted stuff. The difference from the calculated m/s versus the equipped Enchanted gear should give you the more accurate value.

It would be great if you could also post some pictures of the enchanted sets you have. Thanks!

WesmanCarver
03-28-2011, 05:43 PM
No bonus from Fortified with Royal sewer hammer. There is however with the Fortified Mace. +4 crit, +4 h/s, +4m/s, +4 dmg

JaytB
03-31-2011, 01:21 PM
It would be great if you could also post some pictures of the enchanted sets you have. Thanks!

For completeness, just confirming this was done a couple of days ago :)


And grats Physiologic for finishing another great info threat! Now you might actually find some time to clean that inbox of yours ;)

Physiologic
03-31-2011, 02:56 PM
For completeness, just confirming this was done a couple of days ago :)


And grats Physiologic for finishing another great info threat! Now you might actually find some time to clean that inbox of yours ;)

It was actually Yanis who requested them so I PMed you about it :) But yeah I cleaned it up last night, they fill up mighty fast.

JaytB
04-29-2011, 01:40 PM
Lv 55 Enchanted w/ Gem Star Wand/Bracer: no bonus (recently tested)