Take the reduced dmg out of pvp!

[swagaroo]

Part of the reason pvp is unbalanced at low levels and birds can't nuke anymore is because of this pvp reduced thing implemented about a year ago. I know sts said no more updates but it would still make it nice for the people who still play pl and people who enjoy pvping as a bird like it used to be. If you guys are going to have a game, all the classes should be fair and playable in pvp.

Thank this post if you agree!


Lets get the devs attention!!!!

[Ssneakykills]

Or just play 51+ bird which is more fun anyway

[ToastyLord]

I've played 16 bird and they can easily destroy 15 warriors with skill, so no, I disagree.

And if STS said no more updates, they actually mean it. Sorry, I don't like it either...




Deal with it.

[swagaroo]

I've played 16 bird and they can easily destroy 15 warriors with skill, so no, I disagree.

And if STS said no more updates, they actually mean it. Sorry, I don't like it either...




Deal with it.

they cant destroy anything except warriors

[swagaroo]

Or just play 51+ bird which is more fun anyway

my thread says low level. 51 is not low level

[Iilhopeliliil]

my thread says low level. 51 is not low level

51 is low level, 77 is endgame, 76 is high level, 71 is normal.

[ToastyLord]

they cant destroy anything except warriors

They can beat mages but to beat a good mage, it requires a lot of skill.

and seeing as 15 pvp is 75% bears, that's fair.

[swagaroo]

They can beat mages but to beat a good mage, it requires a lot of skill.

and seeing as 15 pvp is 75% bears, that's fair.

Ive never seen a bird kill a mage there

[swagaroo]

and im talking levels 22-40 where they suck

[Rescind]

My l31 warbird can win 4/10 fights against mages. If that counts

[DudeitsJacob]

Fiery used to dodge hs more often before class nerf ;-;

[Ssneakykills]

my thread says low level. 51 is not low level

But I gave you a suggestion of levels for birds that have a chance because they aren't going to sort pvp out are they?

[Ssneakykills]

I wasn't asking you for a suggestion of levels for birds that have a chance. If i wanted you to give me a suggestion i'd name the thread: "Give me pvp levels where birds have a chance". Almost every post i read from you, you just like to be a smart-***. Read what you are about to post before sending it.

I was trying to be helpful If you can't see that then it's not my fault

[swagaroo]

I was trying to be helpful If you can't see that then it's not my fault

That's not being helpful. I was not asking for any suggestions. Being helpful would mean staying on topic. Sorry if my last post came out rude.

[Ssneakykills]

That's not being helpful. I was not asking for any suggestions. Being helpful would mean staying on topic. Sorry if my last post came out rude.

Ya it came out pretty rude but oh well and if they buffed birds again birds would be op as they do alright at other levels which is a shame because I tried bird at low levels but wasn't fun when you coudnt nuke probably because Im so used to 51+ birds

[Etarbitrev]

They can beat mages but to beat a good mage, it requires a lot of skill.

and seeing as 15 pvp is 75% bears, that's fair.

Sorry I have to disagree, lv16 bird, already has 1 lvl advantage, cannot beat a paw mage who knows how to mage. End of story. They just die too fast if they nuke & they don't dmg enough for dodge & midway doesn't work as their light still hits, & ur hit goes lower & just fails. End. Gg. Wp'd.

[Etarbitrev]

Also, I still think just undo the chunker dmg nerf. That'd sort lower level.

[Etarbitrev]

That way they'd be able to kite and be slightly nukier.

[Ssneakykills]

That way they'd be able to kite and be slightly nukier.

But then bears would be more op if they used Chunker?

[swagaroo]

This would balance pvp so much.. They should just take away the reduced damage. I don't see why they even gave us this.

[Arpluvial]

Hey guys,

I've cleaned up the thread - let's keep it friendly. :)

[tHelonestud]

I heard there's other games that actually get updates or continue Playing and realize nothing is going to get better in the game.
You answered your own request in your post, there will be NO more updates.

[ToastyLord]

Sorry I have to disagree, lv16 bird, already has 1 lvl advantage, cannot beat a paw mage who knows how to mage. End of story. They just die too fast if they nuke & they don't dmg enough for dodge & midway doesn't work as their light still hits, & ur hit goes lower & just fails. End. Gg. Wp'd.

Very good point, perhaps not a good mage, just a mage.

And if 75% are bears, 5% are nab mages(?), 10% are complete nubs, then you can beat a whopping 90% of PvP!

(NOTE: perhaps I was thinking back when I rushed everyone as a 16 bird, I could easily catch a pro 15-17 mage by surprise and rek :))

[Electrophiles]

Part of the reason pvp is unbalanced at low levels and birds can't nuke anymore is because of this pvp reduced thing implemented about a year ago. I know sts said no more updates but it would still make it nice for the people who still play pl and people who enjoy pvping as a bird like it used to be. If you guys are going to have a game, all the classes should be fair and playable in pvp.

Thank this post if you agree!


Lets get the devs attention!!!!

If they do that then we will have the issue of OP endgame birds again. Again, I implore you to think about INT mages (NOT pallies), rhinos and foxes, which are all on the lower end of the stick. Birds at least can still dish out insane amounts of damage to these classes and can still defeat STR bear with relative ease as well. So bird is pretty OP at endgame with the Lust set and 2pc...

[iamtony]

the reduced damage was only like 20-30 damage

[iamtony]

how would endgame birds be op with only 20 more damage?

[Etarbitrev]

But then bears would be more op if they used Chunker?

No, due to it being higher bears would literally never hit their stomps as mages would have to go 5+ fire.

[HeyitsTubs]

umm... didnt they say they wouldnt update anymore..... isnt this talk useless?

[bearuang]

its not yet able to nuke there , try 30 or 45 if you want twink taste. 51 or 56 if you want to feel like playing endgame

[Crashgangsta]

Ive tried a paw mage lawl birds are squishy but stupid root and blast shoot nubs do no damage to me

[HeyitsTubs]

i couldnt agree more

[Etarbitrev]

1. A lvl17 bird can kill the best of 17 mages, its just they suck before lvl17. & at 17 you need fbow.
whereas I can safely tell you a lvl20 dex bow plat set bird can beat a lv18-20 fbow hs bear. They're better later on until mage/bear/fox get their crucial skills.

[Waug]

yea they should take it off, bird were op due to extra dodge, taking it off was good decision.

And top of that idk from which angel and who suggested to nerf dodge debuff of bird, it was the stupidest implementation, whearas opponents can have90+ dodge.

[AppleNoob]

1. A lvl17 bird can kill the best of 17 mages, its just they suck before lvl17. & at 17 you need fbow.
whereas I can safely tell you a lvl20 dex bow plat set bird can beat a lv18-20 fbow hs bear. They're better later on until mage/bear/fox get their crucial skills.

I beat 17 birds. The statement should be more along the lines, "a 17 bird can kill a 17 mage if it dodges all the skills.

[tHelonestud]

Damage should actually be increased by like 4.5x in PvP, also dodge should be reduced around 40% in PvP
How ever much dodge is removed you should gain that number multiplied by 6 added to your health pool and if its less than 100 health points you should gain 20 armor and 200 mana.

[AppleNoob]

Damage should actually be increased by like 4.5x in PvP, also dodge should be reduced around 40% in PvP
How ever much dodge is removed you should gain that number multiplied by 6 added to your health pool and if its less than 100 health points you should gain 20 armor and 200 mana.

Good to know you still joke.

[tHelonestud]

Always friendly