The FASTEST Hideout Run!

[Zeus]

Thanks to Physiologic, Moogerfooger, Mitsuisun, and Royce! The videos are still uploading so it haven't processes HD quality yet. HD viewing should be up within 15 minutes!

First video is with damage pots! Actual run time was 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZydmHsyO8k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZydmHsyO8k


Here is the Second Video, with NO ELIXERS! Run Time was 3:27 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELi2F5eSG2M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELi2F5eSG2M

[giayuan]

I like how you just ignored captnamerica ;)

EDIT: just noticed you guys killed gold fever like.. a plain mob LOL

[Kingofhurtz]

Yeah I remember mooger, mitsiusun and two mages and I flew threw it.

[Zeus]

I like how you just ignored captnamerica ;)

EDIT: just noticed you guys killed gold fever like.. a plain mob LOL

Had too unfortunately :(. Typing would slow us down and ruin our timing. As soon as I log back on in game, I'll answer his question if needed :p.

[Beanmachine]

I like how you just ignored captnamerica ;)

EDIT: just noticed you guys killed gold fever like.. a plain mob LOL

lol sorry didnt know u were recording:)
Is it possible to answer my question now plz?;)

[RATTANSINGHNAGRA]

Lmfao you guys play like n00bs :)

[adwin]

Hmm, I recognise a certain skill setup. ;]

I see you're going up->down by columns, but IMO, repulse shot should be last. If you repulse the enemy outside of your range, you won't hit him with the last shot.
Furthermore, shatterscream should be somewhere closer to blast shot. Does your combo chain each time?

[giayuan]

Hmm, I recognise a certain skill setup. ;]

I see you're going up->down by columns, but IMO, repulse shot should be last. If you repulse the enemy outside of your range, you won't hit him with the last shot.
Furthermore, shatterscream should be somewhere closer to blast shot. Does your combo chain each time?

I do that too! cept my column on the right for the 4 attacks are break armor, blast shot, stun thing, then repulse as adwin pointed out :D

[Zeus]

Hmm, I recognise a certain skill setup. ;]

I see you're going up->down by columns, but IMO, repulse shot should be last. If you repulse the enemy outside of your range, you won't hit him with the last shot.
Furthermore, shatterscream should be somewhere closer to blast shot. Does your combo chain each time?

I have my reasons for all of the following :p. Which I can't disclose :(. Sorry!


EDIT: It was a bit hard to follow through with it since it was an Ipad and I had to reach around my makeshift tripod and attempt to play. Thus hindering my performance.

[Kingofhurtz]

I have my reasons for all of the following :p. Which I can't disclose :(. Sorry!

His uber secret(no longer secret) pvp strategy!

[giayuan]

His uber secret(no longer secret) pvp strategy!

Right!!! I bet hes regretting posting this video now... LOL

[Zeus]

His uber secret(no longer secret) pvp strategy!

Actually, it's not that :p. That is my PVE map, but if I told him the reason why I ordered it like that, it would also hint my PvP strategy.

[Inching]

ive done it while damage pot was still not expired... it expired around when goldfever died so i guess 5 mins or so... oh and no damage pots

[giayuan]

you mean xp pot?

[Zeus]

Stupid me! I uploaded in standard quality! I was wondering why HD didn't show up yet. Got to reupload that one then I guess. Fastest Hideout Run without Elixirs coming up next!

[Moogerfooger]

We also did a 3:27 run with no pots at all :p which could have been a few seconds faster....

[Zeus]

We also did a 3:27 run with no pots at all :p which could have been a few seconds faster....

Dang Physiologic had to be the noob and die :(. Nah jk Physio. We love ya :).

[Inching]

you mean xp pot?

ya ya i mean XP pot hahaha thanks

[Ayrilana]

Dang Physiologic had to be the noob and die :(. Nah jk Physio. We love ya :).

He usually does when I play with him. :p I take it was from the fire traps?

[Beanmachine]

Had too unfortunately :(. Typing would slow us down and ruin our timing. As soon as I log back on in game, I'll answer his question if needed :p.

Im offline now but still waiting for an answer plz..

[Zeus]

Im offline now but still waiting for an answer plz..

I pmed you it :p.

[Zeus]

He usually does when I play with him. :p I take it was from the fire traps?

Barreled actually.

[Beanmachine]

I pmed you it :p.

oh ty i think ill just post in market:p

[KaotiicxDream]

Goldfever and Catspaw got OWNED!!!!!

[Zeus]

Goldfever and Catspaw got OWNED!!!!!

Yeah, looks like I made a mistake though and hit Standard Quality when I uploaded the first video. I'll remove that one and post the HD version. Then you can watch them get owned in HD!

[Physiologic]

Hahaha I ran into the barrel the very first run we recorded. Epicprosauce :D

[MITSUISUN]

warm up laps p

I still think we need a 2 min run just for the sake of it. i am sure if u guys ditched me and replace with Elar or some better birds it will be close to 2mins hehe.

mad fun as always, death trains ftw~

[Necrobane]

I reckon one bird for a mage woulda been better.

[Moogerfooger]

We had 4 birds, 1 mage. Going all bird actually slows it down a bit, as Royce is an epic mage and his combos/buffs/debuffs speed things up considerably :D

[superglut2]

Very nice run

[Necrobane]

Sorry I expressed myself poorly, I meant to switch a bird for a mage = 3 mages 2 birds

[Moogerfooger]

Gotcha...yeah, we have done that before, with pretty similar results :D 3:37, but with a slightly diff crew.

[Necrobane]

:) when your doing that much damage, theres no need for a tank. Maybe a warbird would be nice for the mobs.

[Ayrilana]

Gotcha...yeah, we have done that before, with pretty similar results :D 3:37, but with a slightly diff crew.

I like doing the groups with you guys.


:) when your doing that much damage, theres no need for a tank. Maybe a warbird would be nice for the mobs.

Unfortunately there's really no need for a tank in BS since you can kite the boss or share aggro.

[Zeus]

I like doing the groups with you guys.

So... Up next? Goblin King? Kill him before the totem heals him? Maybe king and queen too?

[Necrobane]

I like doing the groups with you guys.lol same
/10

[Ayrilana]

So... Up next? Goblin King? Kill him before the totem heals him? Maybe king and queen too?

Yeah. Just have to make sure people don't call you non-stop like they did over the weekend. I was in a group in Stronghold a few days ago where a bear would run far a head and pull a huge swarm of enemies back for us to nuke. Those were some pretty quick runs.

[MITSUISUN]

Sorry I expressed myself poorly, I meant to switch a bird for a mage = 3 mages 2 birds

Typically it's usually 4 birds 1 mage / 4 birds 1 bear for me ( we birds united while we were all lv55 heh ) or 5 birds (dont die is the theme)

I somehow felt it was smoother and faster with 1 bear, and more exciting when all of us trying to keep each other stay alive, help with repulse shot etc; that was one of best experience while griding, meeting top-notch birds, bears and of course mages.

[Doubletime]

So... Up next? Goblin King? Kill him before the totem heals him? Maybe king and queen too?

Running with Echelong last night we were able to do this with a mixed group bear/2 birds/2 mages. 3 birds/2 mages should blast through him long before the totem lights up. I know that I was running a damage pot. Don't think the rest were.

So Parth you need a bigger challenge. I say try soloing the queen with a dagger and cloth armor.

[Echelong]

Nice vid it makes the runs we did last weekend seem slow. We did a 3:07 with damage pot (never tried speed pot) and 3:44 i think without pots. Same configuration. I would like to try a potted run with speed pots with Elly and see if he can speed up the run. But yeah 3 birds and a mage owns. I would like to see Royce's vid just to see his perspective and learn hehe. Great runs guys.


Running with Echelong last night we were able to do this with a mixed group bear/2 birds/2 mages. 3 birds/2 mages should blast through him long before the totem lights up. I know that I was running a damage pot. Don't think the rest were.

So Parth you need a bigger challenge. I say try soloing the queen with a dagger and cloth armor.

hehe don't remind me about last night it as just as much fun as it was painful.

[IamBored]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

[Moogerfooger]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

Bears can speed things up and make for a smoother run with smart usage of Taunt, Beckon and Stomp. Some of the smoothest runs I have had, and fastest, have been with solid bears like Ellyidol or Warhammerben.

[Echelong]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

If you played with a good bear like Ellyidol, persistant and a few others you would think otherwise.

[aluxuryhoggy]

Wowow! Can we get to together and do some runs today? What time zone you in?
Well done!

[Physiologic]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXpwubCFFa8

Ellyidol et al. at Catacombs. Run finished in 3 mins, 50 seconds.

[Ayrilana]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

They're very helpful in pulling mobs together.

[IamBored]

Remove one archer from the group and add in a warrior see if it's much faster or equal in time. Boss should one shot archer and mage so warrior would truly be needed.

[Moogerfooger]

If a 1 bear/2 archer/2 mage setup, and if all were skilled, would still not make a huge difference other than possibly boss takedown time.....the flip side of that is that mob-clearing up to the boss may be a little faster if the bear knows how to beckon into tight groups.

[Snakespeare]

A bear can pull mobs away from traps. This party didn't need a bear because of the elixirs, which made them all bears at heart. Also, they are all very skilled players most of whom have bears they play often. Most parties do benefit from someone beckoning the mobs away from the firetraps.

[kopi]

bears are useful in Bs if u know how to do it, especially in stronghold. Those that been playing with Olliwalli, u will know i mean. he's a str mage, got two of us bear in stronghold.

Two bears and he split up, each going diff direction, we run and lure the mobs to mages and bird waiting at a corner and blasted them away, always on screen there's say 15-20 plus mobs which slows down my phone frame. we kill super fast. I had no record of timing and it's the fastest among all games i joined before. this brings me back the memories of AO3 rushing.

i do not know how to take video on iphone, but those whoever joined agreed it's very fun. I run this method with my friends and they love it too, though my side still yet to perfect it with many deaths.

[MITSUISUN]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

It's really not that bears are not needed. Players and team work is all there is to it, and combination of good classes.

dex and tank bear works together is deadly, at same time you can argue birds are not needed because good mage's aoe is even more damage

[kopi]

If u got a group of 3 class together, all knows how to play their char, and with practice : bear move in, pull, mage weakness and nightmare, bear hellscream, bird root, mage lightning follow by icestorm and firestorm, same time bird shattering scream and blastshot. U can pretty much clear any maps fast

[IamBored]

Bear job is tank, pull and debuff. Mage job is to heal, debuff, and aoe damage. Archer job is to do damage and debuff. As you can see in the video, no tanking is needed because everything drop like flies even the boss. You guys kill so fast that a bear pull would not do much different. I can't really see but nobody in the group was in dangerous of dying. You can't say that about mage and archer because mage is best at aoe while archer is best at single target damage (boss).

[Echelong]

Bear job is tank, pull and debuff. Mage job is to heal, debuff, and aoe damage. Archer job is to do damage and debuff. As you can see in the video, no tanking is needed because everything drop like flies even the boss. You guys kill so fast that a bear pull would not do much different. I can't really see but nobody in the group was in dangerous of dying. You can't say that about mage and archer because mage is best at aoe while archer is best at single target damage (boss).

Have you seen Elly in action? He would pull and group mobs into a wall or corner and keep running and the group would kill them then he would keep grouping mobs and doing that till the boss when he would change into his dps gear and kill the boss without anyone or hardly anyone get hit by him. You can do fast runs with any group configuration as long as they know what to do.

We should do farming with damage and speed pots and see how it goes.

[KingFu]

Lmfao you guys play like n00bs :)

And you are......?

[Ayrilana]

Bear job is tank, pull and debuff. Mage job is to heal, debuff, and aoe damage. Archer job is to do damage and debuff. As you can see in the video, no tanking is needed because everything drop like flies even the boss. You guys kill so fast that a bear pull would not do much different. I can't really see but nobody in the group was in dangerous of dying. You can't say that about mage and archer because mage is best at aoe while archer is best at single target damage (boss).

Bears run up ahead and pull the mobs back to the group. It works very well in stronghold

[Moogerfooger]

You guys kill so fast that a bear pull would not do much different. I can't really see but nobody in the group was in dangerous of dying.

Wrong, and wrong. Bear pulls, with a bear in front grouping together mobs makes things much easier and speeds things up...it is not mandatory, but it does help a lot for the bear to take aggro from the archers.

And you have no clue about anyone's screens other than the ones in the video on a couple of runs, and in one of those videos we have tank pots to not worry about damage as much. Do you not see how often Physiologic uses health pots in his videos to stay that aggressive and do that much damage quickly???? With no bear taunting/beckoning/stunning, we are constantly hammering health pots in certain parts of the runs. To play this aggressively with archer, you are constantly in danger of dying, and use a lot of healths pots compared to hanging back and not using as many. Period.

You must never have played with a bear that knew what he was doing.

[Physiologic]

Bears that know how to Beckon and debuff when they're supposed to increases run speed and improves survivability. I'm saying this from experience, all based on countless runs with Ellyidol.

And hideout/stronghold is actually the easiest BS* map to run in. When you get to the slime monsters and face 10 mobs doing AoE fire damage on your party and you are bear-less, you'll think "damn I wish there were a tank here" right before the YOU HAVE DIED screen pops up.

[IamBored]

Check the second video again. The mage and archer Moogerfooger health dip to 50% once each so I think a mage heal would do for the other time being. I can't tell for Phys because his name is covered. I looked at Phys video and he used about 13 or 15 health potions in which he grouped with 2 random players and he was the only one leading the way in that video. Try a video with the best warrior and see how much thing speed up and also try 4 people instead of 5. Please post a video with a warrior pulling and see how it goes, you guys kill so fast that he will have to skip a group of mob because beckon doesn't reset fast enough.

[Zerious]

see this is why i need my archer and bear up and running >.<

[Moogerfooger]

Check the second video again. The mage and archer Moogerfooger health dip to 50% once each so I think a mage heal would do for the other time being. I can't tell for Phys because his name is covered. I looked at Phys video and he used about 13 or 15 health potions in which he grouped with 2 random players and he was the only one leading the way in that video. Try a video with the best warrior and see how much thing speed up and also try 4 people instead of 5. Please post a video with a warrior pulling and see how it goes, you guys kill so fast that he will have to skip a group of mob because beckon doesn't reset fast enough.

Do you know why my health rarely gets below 50%?? Not only is Royce a hell of a mage and does a great job healing/buffing....wait for it....

BECAUSE I AM CONSTANTLY HAMMERING HEALTH POTS ON A LOT OF THE MAP CLEANING UP THE WOUNDED/BYPASSED BY PHYSIOLOGIC, AND IN THE INTEREST OF NOT DYING AND SLOWING DOWN THE SPEED RUN, AND I HAVE 26 H/S.

And as Physiologic said, Hideout is one of the easiest BS levels to play aggressively. Trying to play like this, without a bear to take some of the heat off, in Catacombs would be stupid hard.

And once I again, you must never have played with a bear liked Ellyidol. Period. He has his Beckons timed perfectly and often runs ahead of the group (and we never have to wait for a Beckon to cool down). Oh wait, I am repeating myself to you AGAIN.

Buh-bye.

[Ellyidol]

We just did a run. +10 sec without elixirs and blanky spawn, Phys should have the video later. :)

[Physiologic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gohIAGpJ0ps

Runners: 4 birds, 1 bear [Physiologic, Apollo, Ellyidol, Doubletime, Yanis]
Time of run: 3 minutes, 42 second
Run spawned Blankey, added +7 seconds (other Hideout run did not have Blankey).

Time of run revised: 3 minutes 35 seconds.

[Ellyidol]

I swear we should film every run. We seem to drop a pink every time! Lol.

Edit:

Name of your vid is wrong, Hideout not cata :P

[Physiologic]

Whoops, fixed it.

And rofl, I recorded only 4 runs, 2 of which pinks dropped...

[Ellyidol]

The drop rate for recorded runs is 50%. Hahaha.

Thank you btw, for recording.

[Doubletime]

Based on the drop rate for recorded runs, and that was my first pink in a couple days, I think we should do recorded speed runs all day. :P

Good run guys.

[Echelong]

Based on the drop rate for recorded runs, and that was my first pink in a couple days, I think we should do recorded speed runs all day. :P

Good run guys.

Haha DT I know how you feel. I just hope the bad luck I have been carrying these past few days is off and the group can get more pinks.

[MITSUISUN]

Echelong,
I ran with couple different crews in past 2 days (thnx to Elly/Phy/Badtee that introduced me to new awesome players)

and I have to say... ITS REALLY YOU!!

We all got pinks and had mad fun dying / chatting / taking afk so others can join.

Perhaps we should not see each other anymore :p

[Doubletime]

Echelong,
I ran with couple different crews in past 2 days (thnx to Elly/Phy/Badtee that introduced me to new awesome players)

and I have to say... ITS REALLY YOU!!

We all got pinks and had mad fun dying / chatting / taking afk so others can join.

Perhaps we should not see each other anymore :p

I think Mitsu is on to something Echelong. I have racked up pinks lately when running with other groups. :)

Maybe you should sign on long enough that we can change your luck.

[Ayrilana]

You should try stronghold. It can be cleared in about 4 min and has better drops. Just get Elly to make those death trains.

[Sun]

I think your runs could go a lot faster if you split up. If your aiming to all get exp and drops this would be a bad idea but if your going for only run speed then sending only 1 - 2 people to the first right turn instead of all 5 would be a lot faster. and also at the spots where you branch off left and right

[Moogerfooger]

Has been tried and is not feasible without speed/damage pots and probably tank pots. Splitting up when we (in the videos) all use skills and combos heavily also detracts from overall effectiveness (think 'strength in numbers'), and takes longer to kill small groups of baddies. Staying roughly together = massive killing power. Not to mention, meeting back up before the boss(es) also adds time.

One other option is to have two bears. At the same intersection have the group pause, except one bear go right to Blanky's room, and another left and down the hall a bit. Each kite the mobs back to the archers/mages waiting in the middle for monster combos/AoE. I don't know if this is any faster, but it worth a look.

[MITSUISUN]

man Moog... we got new challenges need to beat lol i better improve my game more :p

team work coordination is a wonderful thing to practice. if later on, there's a big map that allows 2-3 teams to enter from different direction and jointly to fight a master boss, that'd be cool.

very agree on strength in numbers, nothing is more satisfying when everyone's skill went out same time and mobs die before they even have a chance to touch us.

I started to use raid+autobow set more these past 2 days as i been stashing pots and improve my potting finger. I liked how we birds had auto-bow party back when lv55, range + pick different targets in sight, and finished jointly with blast shot etc.

[Moogerfooger]

I liked how we birds had auto-bow party back when lv55, range + pick different targets in sight, and finished jointly with blast shot etc.

I don't know about you, but I have never used a sissy Autobow with Mooger :p lol. Give me damage over range, any day....just my personal style.

This split approach might work a little on Stronghold (some break left at the big area by the beginning and loop around though the 'up' hall, the other group go right and loop to the 'right' hall, and meet), but I don't think it would be faster on Hideout. Too much running to re-meet, I think.

[MITSUISUN]

Yes, you were the odd bird out with loaned scarb bow when Elar/Kujen/Kanital and I were all rocking different auto-bow hehe.

I 100% agree with you on damage driven; auto-bow is very good use in some maps but I need to get myself a raid recurve heh

[Moogerfooger]

Ironically, six hours before I was going to give Drew his Scarab back, I got one on a drop :D

I don't care about the Autobows, they have their advantages; I just like teasing Autobow-ers :p

[Ayrilana]

No need to split up on stronghold. You just need the bear to speed pot and then run around training the enemies back to the group. This is done about 6 times and then you're at the bandit king/queen.

[Physiologic]

I think your runs could go a lot faster if you split up. If your aiming to all get exp and drops this would be a bad idea but if your going for only run speed then sending only 1 - 2 people to the first right turn instead of all 5 would be a lot faster. and also at the spots where you branch off left and right

This won't work. Everyone runs at the same speed, so even if everyone did mini-split ups, you'd all have to eventually come together for Gold Fever, who goes down the fastest when everyone is grouped together. If you split up, the people who took the dead-end roads would have to eventually walk back to the main group.

[The Real Jira]

if later on, there's a big map that allows 2-3 teams to enter from different direction and jointly to fight a master boss, that'd be cool.

Mits, this is brilliant.