[L41 PvP Rogue Tournament]: iDeadshot

[Zeus]

Hello all,

This is a tournament designed for L41 Rogues! Have you come to prove yourself? Sign up!

I. Tournament Bracket:
L41

II. Tournament Class:
Rogue

III. Tournament Time:
The tournament will begin as soon as slots fill up. Once slots fill up, contestants will have a week to schedule and fight their match as per rules. Please, read all the rules. By entering this tournament, you are acknowledging that you have read all the rules and everything within the original post (#1).

IV. Scorekeeping
Each tournament match will consist of 1 game, open map CTF where 2 rogues will be set to face each other in a race to 20. The first rogue to 20 will win and advance to the next round. All necessary screenshots must be posted on this tournament thread or private messaged to me.

V. Rules:
- No Arcane Rings
- Pet Allowed: Malison*
- Gear Allowed: Mythic Helm, Mythic Armor, Planar Pendant, Elo Bow/Frost Bow/Ghoulish Blades of Force, Mythic Ring
- Please complete registration properly according to sample registration section.
- No Trash Talking
- No Spawning
- No Abusing Spawn Bubbles
- First to 20 Wins!
- No Vanities Permitted
- No Camera Unlocked will be allowed!
- Bow stuns will not be allowed.
- Hide Helm Option NOT Permitted
- Screenshot before match begins declaring it is an official match must be posted.
- Screenshot after match with final score announced by both players must be posted.
- Once a round begins, players will have 1 week to schedule a match with their opponent and fight.
- A screenshot of agreed match time for both players must be shown/posted in thread. If a player does not show up at agreed time, the other player that has must show proof that he/she was online at scheduled time and he/she will be advanced to next round.
- Spectators must stay out of contestant's way. They will only be allowed to watch from within a spawn room.
- A match must be won by 4 or more. If not, you will have to re-do match until the winner is in lead by 4 or more.
- Semi Finals & Finals will be best of 3.
- Leaving the match to avoid death will not be allowed.

*= You are allowed to match arcane pets if both competitors have the EXACT SAME arcane pet. So, Samael for Samael, Nekro for Nekro, etc.

VI. Screenshots Required for Each Match:
- Screenshot of scheduled match time.
- Screenshot before match, declaring it as an official match
- Screenshot after match with final score announced by both players.

VII. How To Register:
Click the following link:
- http://www.spacetimestudios.com/tournaments.php?do=view&id=67
- Go to bottom of page
- Click Join Tournament Link
- Post on Tournament Thread w/ your character name, forum name, pet, gear, and weapon.


Sample Post:


Forum Name:
- Zeus

IGN:
- Zeus

Gear:
- Frost Touched Bow of Potency
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison*
*= unless my opponent has an arcane pet he wishes to use, I will match that arcane pet.

VIII. Prizes:

- IGN: Apollo will be granted to the player who places first in this tournament
- Potential developer reward/platinum prizes. Stay tuned!



With that being said....good luck and may the games begin!

[Zeus]

Forum Name:
- Zeus

IGN:
- Zeus

Gear:
- Frost Touched Bow of Potency/Ghoulish Blades of Force
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison*
*= unless my opponent has an arcane pet he wishes to use, I will match that arcane pet.

[Zeus]

This sounds interesting!can we expect a twitch steam? ^.^

I will try to record my fights and any fights I spectate.

[Khicho]

Forum Name:
- Khicho

IGN:
- Vaepor

Gear:
- Frost Touched Bow of Potency/ daggers
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison*

[Visiting]

Forum Name:
- Ralchior

IGN:
- Inotrich

Gear:
- Elo Bow of Whatever
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison (or Singe if the competitor wishes to use)

[Bless]

Forum Name:
- Bless

IGN:
- Bless

Gear:
- Frost bow / Ghoulish Daggers
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison*
*= unless my opponent has a samael he (or she, let's not be sexist x)) wishes to use.
*= unless my Malison runs out of pet feed.

[Visiting]

126207
I couldn't resist :/

[Hilyana]

Forum Name:
- Hilyana

IGN:
- Taste

Gear:
- Goulish Blades Of Force
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison*
*= unless my opponent has an arcane pet he wishes to use, I will match that arcane pet.

[Zeus]

126207
I couldn't resist :/

LOL!

Bless, remember to feed your Malison!

[Bless]

LOL!

Bless, remember to feed your Malison! done and edited post X)

[Eatt]

Forum Name:
Eatt

IGN:
Lewdysnipes

Gear:
Frost bow / ghoulish
Mythic armor
Mythic helm
Mythic Pendants
Mythic ring/haunted ring

Pet:

Malison
Samuel/hj if opponent has/or decides to use

[raw]

Good luck everyone. I actually would participate but ill be out of town for most of March :miserable: :(

Bless, I will donate 5k to your Malison fund! LOL

[Zeus]

Good luck everyone. I actually would participate but ill be out of town for most of March :miserable: :(

Bless, I will donate 5k to your Malison fund! LOL

Matches are done on your own time and from what I've seen, they take about an hour tops. Just letting you know to see if you can fit them in your schedule.

[Zeus]

One important rule I forgot - bow stuns are NOT allowed.

[Kingofninjas]

Forum name:
Kingofninjas

In game name:
Kingofninjas (may change in the next few weeks)

Gear:
Frost/Elond Bow/ Ghoulish daggers
Mythic helm
Mythic armor
Blood Ruby of Shuyal
Ancient Planar Pendant

Pet:
Malison (do not wish to use any other pet)

[Zeus]

Kingofninjas.
Will make a more detailed post later but sign me up.

You have to join yourself using the instructions I showed. The tournament system doesn't let me register you.

[Zeus]

Forum Name:
Safiras

IGN:
Safiras

Gear:
Elondrian Bow
Mythic armor
Mythic helm
Mythic Pendant
Mythic ring

Pet:

Malison

Make sure to click the link in OP and hit Join Tournament!

[Volt]

Forum Name:
- Volt

IGN:
- Quietlove

Gear:
- Elondrian Warfare Bow of Potency
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison

[Eatt]

Is anyone else having a problem with the sign up link?..

[Zeus]

Is anyone else having a problem with the sign up link?..

If it doesn't work from your phone, do it from your desktop.

[Soundlesskill]

V. Rules:
- No Arcane Rings
- Pet Allowed: Malison*
- Gear Allowed: Mythic Helm, Mythic Armor, Planar Pendant, Elo Bow/Frost Bow/Ghoulish Blades of Force, Mythic Ring
- Please complete registration properly according to sample registration section.
- No Trash Talking
- No Spawning
- No Abusing Spawn Bubbles
- First to 20 Wins!
- No Vanities Permitted
- No Camera Unlocked will be allowed!
- Bow stuns will not be allowed

Bow stuns not allowed? Wth, that's a part of PvPing, but of course I know it will be a completely luck based tourney, but really? No bow stuns? What happened to the epic gear? The pet restriction does pretty much nothing without the gear restriction.

[Zeus]

Bow stuns not allowed? Wth, that's a part of PvPing, but of course I know it will be a completely luck based tourney, but really? No bow stuns? What happened to the epic gear? The pet restriction does pretty much nothing without the gear restriction.

Bow stuns are not allowed because due to the high end damage of L41 rogues, it just turns into the first to bow stun or land stun winning the fight. And in the case of both rogues bow stunning each other, it ends up becoming a case of who will be freed from stun first, as there is a chance to be freed from stun early (which is why you see varying durations of bow stun). So, I disallowed it completely as a result.

Epic gear would result in running out of mana before even making a kill. Have you tested this suggestion? If you try it, you will see exactly what I mean. Additionally, how would I ensure what gear is epic and what gear is legendary? I cannot. A lot of epic gear and legendary gear look exactly the same. Let us not even delve into rings and amulets.

The pet restriction serves purpose to prevent OP pets like Shady & Surge or Nekro, something normal arcane pets cannot compete with in a 1v1 scenario. This is why I've made this rule.

The tournament has been geared down enough, IMO, so that a healthy amount of rogues would be able to compete. If this is not the case, of course, I will look into lowering gear even more so that more players can compete.





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[Soundlesskill]

Bow stuns are not allowed because due to the high end damage of L41 rogues, it just turns into the first to bow stun or land stun winning the fight. And in the case of both rogues bow stunning each other, it ends up becoming a case of who will be freed from stun first, as there is a chance to be freed from stun early (which is why you see varying durations of bow stun). So, I disallowed it completely as a result.

Epic gear would result in running out of mana before even making a kill. Have you tested this suggestion? If you try it, you will see exactly what I mean. Additionally, how would I ensure what gear is epic and what gear is legendary? I cannot. A lot of epic gear and legendary gear look exactly the same. Let us not even delve into rings and amulets.

The pet restriction serves purpose to prevent OP pets like Shady & Surge or Nekro, something normal arcane pets cannot compete with in a 1v1 scenario. This is why I've made this rule.

The tournament has been geared down enough, IMO, so that a healthy amount of rogues would be able to compete. If this is not the case, of course, I will look into lowering gear even more so that more players can compete.





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I guess I'll sign up with my fang. Is there any chance I can sign up as Noisykillar because I've changed IGN again lol, and the last two tournies I had different names too :P. I just wanna be noisy!

[Zeus]

I guess I'll sign up with my fang. Is there any chance I can sign up as Noisykillar because I've changed IGN again lol, and the last two tournies I had different names too :P. I just wanna be noisy!

Yes you can! What I can do is this..should there be not enough players to sign up with pendant - I will disallow mythic pendant to be used & make a Fang of Fenrir the required amulet to use (since it's the only one with particle effects).

[glendame]

Forum Name:
- Glendame

IGN:
- Glendame

Gear:
- Frost Bow
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Fang

Pet:
- Malison
- Blinky allowed?

[Soundlesskill]

Yes you can! What I can do is this..should there be not enough players to sign up with pendant - I will disallow mythic pendant to be used & make a Fang of Fenrir the required amulet to use (since it's the only one with particle effects).

And I believe I can't sign up from this thread on my phone?

[Soundlesskill]

Lol I think I got it now

Forum Name:
- Soundlesskill

IGN: Baited

Gear:
- Elon Bow
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Fang of Fenrir

Pet
- Malison

[glendame]

No planar pendant please. Not all 16 can afford. :)

[MissVzla]

Forum Name : MissVzla

Ign: MissVzla

Gear:
- Ghoulish Daggers
-Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet :
Malison

[Zeus]

Forum Name : MissVzla

Ign: MissVzla

Gear:
- Ghoulish Daggers
-Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet :
Malison

You have to click the link in the original post and hit the join tournament button to completely register. If it doesn't work on mobile device, you must do through PC

[noahgoulin]

This seems interesting,most of the rogue have the same gears,I'm very curious to see the results *.* lol

[Soundlesskill]

Why is the price a name?

[Snackie]

Forum Name:
- Snackie

IGN:
- Snackie

Gear:
- Frost Bow
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison*
*: Or Valkin, Samael and Nekro

[zethosj]

Forum Name:
- Zethosj

IGN:
- Zethost

Gear:
- Frost Bow
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison

[raw]

Forum Name:
- raw

IGN:
- Raw

Gear:
- Elondrian Warfare Bow of Potency
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison

[Zeus]

Forum Name:
- raw

IGN:
- Raw

Gear:
- Elondrian Warfare Bow of Potency
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison

Yay!

[Zeus]

Why is the price a name?

Waiting on word for a developer support prize as well.

[Zeus]

Forum Name:
- Zethosj

IGN:
- Zethost

Gear:
- Frost Bow
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison



You have to register via the link in original post too. If the link does not load from a mobile device, try a PC.

[Soundlesskill]

Lol I think I got it now

Forum Name:
- Soundlesskill

IGN: Baited

Gear:
- Elon Bow
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Fang of Fenrir

Pet
- Malison

Can I disqualify myself?

Nvm I found it

[Zeus]

Forum Name:
- Snackie

IGN:
- Snackie

Gear:
- Frost Bow
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison*
*: Or Valkin, Samael and Nekro

You also have to click the link in the original post and hit the join tournament button to be fully registered in the tournament. If the link does not work for you, I can log on your forum account and do it for you.

[Snackie]

Yea. Done it on PC coz I can't see any join button from my iPad. Thanks c(=

[Tiamat]

Forum Name:
- Tiamat

IGN:
- Kimart

Gear:
- Frost Touched Bow of Potency
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison*
*= unless my opponent wishes to use 'samael' then I will match that arcane pet.

[Serillia]

Forum Name:
- Serillia

IGN:
- Serillia

Gear:
- Ghoulish Blades Of Force
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Wild Talisman Of Potency

Pet:
- Malison

[Amokaachi]

Forum Name:
- Amokaachi

IGN:
- Amokaachi

Gear:
- Elon Bow/Frost Bow/Daggers
- Mythic Helm
- Mythic Armor
- Mythic Ring
- Planar Pendant

Pet:
- Malison (or Samael if the competitor wishes to use)

[Zeus]

Tournament has started!


Please get round 1 matches in within the next 7 days or risk being disqualified! Additionally, please make yourself familiar with the rules - some have been added recently after practicing and realizing potential exploits.

[Robhawk]

Final: Zeus vs Fog/Bless, winner Zeus...

;) :)

sry for OT, i know...

[KKIDIRA]

POSTING FOR MYARROWZ

IGN: Myarrowz

Gear:
-ghoulish blades of force
-mythic helm
-mythic armor
-mythic ring
-planar pendant

Pet:
-Malison
*will use singe if opponent also has singe

[Zeus]

POSTING FOR MYARROWZ

IGN: Myarrowz

Gear:
-ghoulish blades of force
-mythic helm
-mythic armor
-mythic ring
-planar pendant

Pet:
-Malison
*will use singe if opponent also has singe

He's a bit late, Kki. The bracket already started! :/

[Zeus]

Bracket:

126323

[zethosj]

Forum Name:
-zethosj

IGN:
-Zethost

Gear:
-Frost-touched Bow of Potency
-Mythic Helm
-Mythic Armor
-Mythic Ring
-Planar Pendant

Pet:
-Malison

[Kumsaati]

Good luck all i missed that one :/

[raw]

Zzz Raw vs Bless in the first round... good luck guys and everyone else taking part!

Bless do you want to play with sad Malisons for jokes?

=D

[Zeus]

Bless do you want to play with sad Malisons for jokes?

=D

Lol...this deserves a thumbs up!

[Zeus]

Final: Zeus vs Fog/Bless, winner Zeus...

;) :)

sry for OT, i know...

There's a lot of top notch rogues that have entered - I wouldn't say outright I'm going to be winner, lol. That puts a lot of pressure on me!

[Eatt]

Glendame I added you on game..not gonna wait till last minute..let's get this poppin. Ign: lewdysnipes

[glendame]

Ok copy. At work now. Boring. Zzz

[Visiting]

Inotrich vs Serillia - 20-17 - Inotrich wins

Screenshots and such being sent to Zeus. Was really fun :D

[Zeus]

Missvzla vs Zeus: 4-20

Zeus (me) wins.

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126360

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[Zeus]

Congrats on Ralchior & me to advancing to the semi-finals! Thank you, Ral, for getting the match in so quickly!

[Amokaachi]

V. Rules:
- A match must be won by 4 or more. If not, you will have to re-do match until the winner is in lead by 4 or more.



Inotrich vs Serillia - 20-17 - Inotrich wins

Screenshots and such being sent to Zeus. Was really fun :D

Will this rule stay?

[Zeus]

Will this rule stay?

Yes - both parties agreed to keep score as it is tho since they were both evenly matched. Thus, this is why I let it slide.

I think in the future, what I will do is if someone cannot win by 20-16 or more, the matches will be done as best of 3. So, for example, if Inotrich fought Ser and the score was: 20-17 and they versed again, & score was again 20-17, Inotrich would win by default due to best of 3. This of course will only apply if one is not able to win by 20-16 or more.



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[Amokaachi]

Hello all,

This is a tournament designed for L41 Rogues! Have you come to prove yourself? Sign up!

I. Tournament Bracket:
L41

II. Tournament Class:
Rogue

III. Tournament Time:
The tournament will begin as soon as slots fill up. Once slots fill up, contestants will have a week to schedule and fight their match as per rules. Please, read all the rules. By entering this tournament, you are acknowledging that you have read all the rules and everything within the original post (#1).

IV. Scorekeeping
Each tournament match will consist of 1 game, open map CTF where 2 rogues will be set to face each other in a race to 20. The first rogue to 20 will win and advance to the next round. All necessary screenshots must be posted on this tournament thread or private messaged to me.

V. Rules:
- No Arcane Rings
- Pet Allowed: Malison*
- Gear Allowed: Mythic Helm, Mythic Armor, Planar Pendant, Elo Bow/Frost Bow/Ghoulish Blades of Force, Mythic Ring
- Please complete registration properly according to sample registration section.
- No Trash Talking
- No Spawning
- No Abusing Spawn Bubbles
- First to 20 Wins!
- No Vanities Permitted
- No Camera Unlocked will be allowed!
- Bow stuns will not be allowed.
- Hide Helm Option NOT Permitted
- Screenshot before match begins declaring it is an official match must be posted.
- Screenshot after match with final score announced by both players must be posted.
- Once a round begins, players will have 1 week to schedule a match with their opponent and fight.
- A screenshot of agreed match time for both players must be shown/posted in thread. If a player does not show up at agreed time, the other player that has must show proof that he/she was online at scheduled time and he/she will be advanced to next round.
- Spectators must stay out of contestant's way. They will only be allowed to watch from within a spawn room.
- A match must be won by 4 or more. If not, you will have to re-do match until the winner is in lead by 4 or more.
- Semi Finals & Finals will be best of 3.
- Leaving the match to avoid death will not be allowed.

*= You are allowed to match arcane pets if both competitors have the EXACT SAME arcane pet. So, Samael for Samael, Nekro for Nekro, etc.

VI. Screenshots Required for Each Match:
- Screenshot of scheduled match time.
- Screenshot before match, declaring it as an official match
- Screenshot after match with final score announced by both players.

VII. How To Register:
Click the following link:
- http://www.spacetimestudios.com/tournaments.php?do=view&id=67
- Go to bottom of page
- Click Join Tournament Link
- Post on Tournament Thread w/ your character name, forum name, pet, gear, and weapon.


Sample Post:



VIII. Prizes:

- IGN: Apollo will be granted to the player who places first in this tournament
- Potential developer reward/platinum prizes. Stay tuned!



With that being said....good luck and may the games begin!


Yes - both parties agreed to keep score as it is tho since they were both evenly matched. Thus, this is why I let it slide.

I think in the future, what I will do is if someone cannot win by 20-16 or more, the matches will be done as best of 3. So, for example, if Inotrich fought Ser and the score was: 20-17 and they versed again, & score was again 20-17, Inotrich would win by default due to best of 3. This of course will only apply if one is not able to win by 20-16 or more.



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Best of 3 sounds fair. But better state it as a rule in the 1st post for no misunderstandings.

[Spell]

Bow stuns are not allowed because due to the high end damage of L41 rogues, it just turns into the first to bow stun or land stun winning the fight. And in the case of both rogues bow stunning each other, it ends up becoming a case of who will be freed from stun first, as there is a chance to be freed from stun early (which is why you see varying durations of bow stun). So, I disallowed it completely as a result.

Epic gear would result in running out of mana before even making a kill. Have you tested this suggestion? If you try it, you will see exactly what I mean. Additionally, how would I ensure what gear is epic and what gear is legendary? I cannot. A lot of epic gear and legendary gear look exactly the same. Let us not even delve into rings and amulets.

The pet restriction serves purpose to prevent OP pets like Shady & Surge or Nekro, something normal arcane pets cannot compete with in a 1v1 scenario. This is why I've made this rule.

The tournament has been geared down enough, IMO, so that a healthy amount of rogues would be able to compete. If this is not the case, of course, I will look into lowering gear even more so that more players can compete.





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I think u also need to limit the number of para gems each rogue use also.

[Robhawk]

There's a lot of top notch rogues that have entered - I wouldn't say outright I'm going to be winner, lol. That puts a lot of pressure on me!

The pressure also keeps your concentration up, bro. ;)

[Zeus]

I think u also need to limit the number of para gems each rogue use also.

That's impossible to do so I'm not even going to bother with it. Additionally, each para gem used in a rogue vs lowers your HP & Crit. These are two very important factors in a rogue vs.

[Zeus]

Best of 3 sounds fair. But better state it as a rule in the 1st post for no misunderstandings.

Will do! Thanks! :)

[Spell]

That's impossible to do so I'm not even going to bother with it. Additionally, each para gem used in a rogue vs lowers your HP & Crit. These are two very important factors in a rogue vs.

Well at least have everyone post how many para gems are in thier set. Lets see whom has the skills and who relies on paras :D?

[Zeus]

Well at least have everyone post how many para gems are in thier set. Lets see whom has the skills and who relies on paras :D?

If you're referring to me - I'm running an eye build and not a para build. :)


3 paras, 7 eyes, rest super fire gems. Any more questions?

[Spell]

If you're referring to me - I'm running an eye build and not a para build. :)

Nope nope not reffering to u :) as it would be silly to say u would just rely on para gems.

Anyways i think this lil comp is silly since u took away bow stuns.thats like telling a mage u cant gun stun or a tank they cant charge their auto attack after an axe pull( for the stun). This isnt about strategies its about who can eye/para their gear fully.

I think if u had really wanted some fun competition u should have a required set that ANYONE can afford and only allow regular gems.mythic set ofc is fine.Eyes give the same amount of hp as a normal elond life shard but with some nice stats and crit.one para gem and three or four eyes should be the limit imo.this is just my honest opinion ^_^ im not in this comp.

[Zeus]

Nope nope not reffering to u :) as it would be silly to say u would just rely on para gems.

Anyways i think this lil comp is silly since u took away bow stuns.thats like telling a mage u cant gun stun or a tank they cant charge their auto attack after an axe pull( for the stun). This isnt about strategies its about who can eye/para their gear fully.

I think if u had really wanted some fun competition u should have a required set that ANYONE can afford and only allow regular gems.mythic set ofc is fine.Eyes give the same amount of hp as a normal elond life shard but with some nice stats and crit.one para gem and three or four eyes should be the limit imo.this is just my honest opinion ^_^ im not in this comp.

Taking away bow stuns was necessary. Otherwise, with the high rogue damage, a stun would determine the match. That's also why I've made it a Malison only fight. These were the classic rules of most other rogue tournaments so I do not see why it would be an issue now.

So, it's not like saying a mage cannot stun or a tank cannot stun. Tanks cannot one shot each other and sorcerers rarely can.

Additionally, as I explained before, if both rogues are bow stunning, it comes down to who stuns & in the case if both stun, it comes down to Carapace's code and who ends up getting freed of stun early (which is why there are varying stun lengths.) Thus, entirely luck. The only thing that is not a luck factor is knowing range of bow stun & let's face it - many rogues already know the bow stun range.

As I've said before - many epic & legendary sets look alike. Secondly, when using epic, players will run out of mana before making a kill. If using legendary, how am I supposed to tell who has invested eye gems or multiple para gems? I can't. Therefore, it is not practical. On top of that, how am I going to get people to invest in gear? Again, it's not practical to that of people. If the cost of entering a tournament is too high, people will not enter. I've made that mistake in the past and I won't make it again. Practicality is also a major factor when entering tournaments. Fairness plays a role & I've made it fair enough for those who want to play may enter the bracket and fill up slots. That is all I was hoping to achieve - nothing more & nothing less. If I drop the gear requirements too much, then we run the risk of many non-committed players entering. Note, I am not saying that lower geared players are non-committed. However, there is a correlation between the two (especially if you look at past tournaments). If gear shows how invested someone is in a game, they're not as invested into the game, simple fact.

If we look at stats as percentages, let's say Person A has 5% better stats than Person B overall. On an equal skill level, the scores should be 5% higher for person A. However, there has been nothing like that. So, I doubt the gems were an issue.




If you feel otherwise, I welcome you to host your own tournament with your rules. As of now, this competition is already underway.

[Spell]

Taking away bow stuns was necessary. Otherwise, with the high rogue damage, a stun would determine the match. That's also why I've made it a Malison only fight. These were the classic rules of most other rogue tournaments so I do not see why it would be an issue now.

So, it's not like saying a mage cannot stun or a tank cannot stun. Tanks cannot one shot each other and sorcerers rarely can.

Additionally, as I explained before, if both rogues are bow stunning, it comes down to who stuns & in the case if both stun, it comes down to Carapace's code and who ends up getting freed of stun early (which is why there are varying stun lengths.) Thus, entirely luck. The only thing that is not a luck factor is knowing range of bow stun & let's face it - many rogues already know the bow stun range.

As I've said before - many epic & legendary sets look alike. Secondly, when using epic, players will run out of mana before making a kill. If using legendary, how am I supposed to tell who has invested eye gems or multiple para gems? I can't. Therefore, it is not practical. On top of that, how am I going to get people to invest in gear? Again, it's not practical to that of people. If the cost of entering a tournament is too high, people will not enter. I've made that mistake in the past and I won't make it again. Practicality is also a major factor when entering tournaments. Fairness plays a role & I've made it fair enough for those who want to play may enter the bracket and fill up slots. That is all I was hoping to achieve - nothing more & nothing less. If I drop the gear requirements too much, then we run the risk of many non-committed players entering. Note, I am not saying that lower geared players are non-committed. However, there is a correlation between the two (especially if you look at past tournaments). If gear shows how invested someone is in a game, they're not as invested into the game, simple fact.

If we look at stats as percentages, let's say Person A has 5% better stats than Person B overall. On an equal skill level, the scores should be 5% higher for person A. However, there has been nothing like that. So, I doubt the gems were an issue.




If you feel otherwise, I welcome you to host your own tournament with your rules. As of now, this competition is already underway.


I still think it would be cool to see how many eyes/para each rogue was using :)

[Zeus]

I still think it would be cool to see how many eyes/para each rogue was using :)

Agreed, but that's up to the participant to post as it can hint to the play style the rogue will use in tournament.

If any rogue wishes to follow pursuit and list their gems, I'm sure Lia and others would appreciate it.

Note: I miscounted in my previous post - I am actually 3 para, 8 eyes (3 on pendant, 3 on ring, 1 in armor, 1 in helm), 4 grand fire gems.




I think the maximum amount of realistic para gems that most rogues are going to use is 3. Yes, there's a potential for 15 paras but considering most of AL did not put their para gems in mythic armor, we theoretically are only looking for para gems in slots where we can obtain via trading/buying. So, 9 para gems in total. 9 para gems is formidable, but sacrifices A LOT of HP.

The ratio I've found to be nice when stacking para gems is: 3 paras for every 1 eye.

For rogue vs, it's the opposite for me: 3 eyes for every para gem.





Again, if any rogue participant would honor Lia's request, I am sure she would appreciate it.


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[raw]

Lia, if you would like to see our gear we can post screenshots of it. I disagree with your point that the rogue with the most para gems would win.

If I had 15 para gems I'd probably sit around (not including the damage debuff in pvp) 720+ damage with a mythic ring, but my crit would drop to around 38, and my health would drop to the low 4000s.

In these rogue 1v1 it often comes down to who gets one hit. A crit is a crit, and a charged aim - nox crit combo will kill regardless if your damage is 650 or 720. So, for the sake of this tournament eye gems (and at least 1 para) is the ideal build.

To be transparent I will be running with 4 para and 11 eyes and potentially daggers... havent decided yet.

[Zeus]

Lia, if you would like to see our gear we can post screenshots of it. I disagree with your point that the rogue with the most para gems would win.

If I had 15 para gems I'd probably sit around (not including the damage debuff in pvp) 720+ damage with a mythic ring, but my crit would drop to around 38, and my health would drop to the low 4000s.

In these rogue 1v1 it often comes down to who gets one hit. A crit is a crit, and a charged aim - nox crit combo will kill regardless if your damage is 650 or 720. So, for the sake of this tournament eye gems (and at least 1 para) is the ideal build.

To be transparent I will be running with 4 para and 11 eyes and potentially daggers... havent decided yet.

Trust me on this, Raw, daggers are a no-go. Damage drops too low with Malison for them to be used effectively. On top of that, a dagger user has to pick between aim stack or proc stack. Doing both is difficult for most and can also delay reaction time.

[raw]

Trust me on this, Raw, daggers are a no-go. Damage drops too low with Malison for them to be used effectively. On top of that, a dagger user has to pick between aim stack or proc stack. Doing both is difficult for most and can also delay reaction time.

Hmm... just depends on the way you're using the daggers. I have had some pretty great experience using daggers last season and I've found that the added health, crit, and proc allow me to be a little more gutsy whereas with a bow I have to be far more conservative. The damage may be lower but I'd be sitting near like 5k health (I think since I'll probably use a 3 eye set of daggers putting me at 14 eyes LOL).

[Spell]

Lia, if you would like to see our gear we can post screenshots of it. I disagree with your point that the rogue with the most para gems would win.

If I had 15 para gems I'd probably sit around (not including the damage debuff in pvp) 720+ damage with a mythic ring, but my crit would drop to around 38, and my health would drop to the low 4000s.



In these rogue 1v1 it often comes down to who gets one hit. A crit is a crit, and a charged aim - nox crit combo will kill regardless if your damage is 650 or 720. So, for the sake of this tournament eye gems (and at least 1 para) is the ideal build.

To be transparent I will be running with 4 para and 11 eyes and potentially daggers... havent decided yet.


Daggers are very risky

[Zeus]

Hmm... just depends on the way you're using the daggers. I have had some pretty great experience using daggers last season and I've found that the added health, crit, and proc allow me to be a little more gutsy whereas with a bow I have to be far more conservative. The damage may be lower but I'd be sitting near like 5k health (I think since I'll probably use a 3 eye set of daggers putting me at 14 eyes LOL).

You have a point. Want to test it in game to know for sure?

[raw]

Maybe tomorrow. I have to buy a mythic ring and potentially some daggers.

[Zeus]

Maybe tomorrow. I have to buy a mythic ring and potentially some daggers.

Alright, sounds good!

[Kingofninjas]

Lmao I am either going to play with 3 para 4 eye and remaining grand fire or 1 para 3 eye 3 grand life and rest grand fire.

[Hilyana]

Taste vs Vaepor: 20-3

Taste wins.

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[Zeus]

Advanced, Taste and Lewdy may fight round two if they desire!

[Zeus]

126650

126651

Won 20-3 against iNotRich(Ralchior)

Ty Ral, GG!

[Visiting]

126650

126651

Won 20-3 against iNotRich(Ralchior)

Ty Ral, GG!

I doubt this surprised anyone, was fun though, plus got some Inotrich killed Zeus pics for later :D

[Zeus]

Safiras vs Amokaachi

15 - 20 (Amok wins!)


Advanced, grats Amok!

[Zeus]

Kimart won versus KingofNinjas: 20-7!


Congratulations, advanced!

[Thexkid]

Wow bro giving away your own ign as a prize :D. Thats awesome man(dev should compliment that with a greek gods related banner or vanity). Goodluck to all, looks like a very tough tourney! (Lewdy go get that ign!) Otherwise id like to see raw and zeus go at it for what id call a title fight between imho the top 2 current pvp rogues. Watch out the next time you guys see Apollo in pvp :O

[Zeus]

Wow bro giving away your own ign as a prize :D. Thats awesome man(dev should compliment that with a greek gods related banner or vanity). Goodluck to all, looks like a very tough tourney! (Lewdy go get that ign!) Otherwise id like to see raw and zeus go at it for what id call a title fight between imho the top 2 current pvp rogues. Watch out the next time you guys see Apollo in pvp :O

Lol, thanks bro!


Lewdy vs. Taste:
12 - 20

Taste advances!

[Rx8]

congrats taste!

[Hilyana]

congrats taste!

Thank you. :)

[Bless]

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Raw forfeits; Bless advances.

The score was pretty even but unfortunately he didn't have time for the lengthy games.

GG man!

[Zeus]

Advanced you, Bless! Thank you for participating, Raw! I know it was tough on you yet you still entered!

[Fog]

Btw, I'm still waiting for Snackie. We was 9-1 in vs and she's gone.. hope she ill be back before disqualification.
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[Snackie]

Oh wow! Really? U wanted me to follow your own timing when I said I'm not ready for that match due to my bad ping and I was away from home base. Disqualification would be made if u disregard the tournament rules. 1st: you wanted to bribe me to let you win. haha 2nd: you spawn killing at my spawn base. What more?

I dont wanna cause anymore drama here. Feel free to disqualified me coz what I've been briefed by Zeus, both opponent must agree on the time and date to fix the match. As most of you know, I dont work on the ground as you all do. Lol.

I leave this to you to decide sir Zeus :)

[Fog]

Oh wow! Really? U wanted me to follow your own timing when I said I'm not ready for that match due to my bad ping and I was away from home base. Disqualification would be made if u disregard the tournament rules. 1st: you wanted to bribe me to let you win. haha 2nd: you spawn killing at my spawn base. What more?

I dont wanna cause anymore drama here. Feel free to disqualified me coz what I've been briefed by Zeus, both opponent must agree on the time and date to fix the match. As most of you know, I dont work on the ground as you all do. Lol.

I leave this to you to decide sir Zeus :)
Chill. I just try all ways to catch u in game. U just leave my rooms and go to random ones. And I dont count the spawn kill. if its going to drama ill let u win without kill me ;) im out of the tournament ! Gg snackie u win :) really im dont care. Just cant play like a kids thats all. U waste my 1 hour with respec remap and lag ;) good luck all !
I'll vs 41 rogues both of em with same gear :) just for fun !

[Visiting]

Chill. I just try all ways to catch u in game. U just leave my rooms and go to random ones. And I dont count the spawn kill. if its going to drama ill let u win without kill me ;) im out of the tournament ! Gg snackie u win :) really im dont care. Just cant play like a kids thats all. U waste my 1 hour with respec remap and lag ;) good luck all !
I'll vs 41 rogues both of em with same gear :) just for fun !
:O Sounds nice, add me in game @ Inotrich, would be fun to do some more pvp derps :)

[conradev]

Where is the bracket

[Zeus]

Here's the deal...


Fog is currently in the lead. Disconnects are a player issue and something I cannot ask the opponent to rescind. If he or she does, good for him! However, I can't ask it to be rescinded. The spawn kill, however, was rescinded. Thus, this makes the score 8-1 if I was properly briefed by Fog and Snackie.

So, I'll give y'all until Friday to finish the match. If it's not completed, whoever is in the lead will be decided as the winner.



However, this is all only valid if yall agreed to that match being an official tournament match. Has there been agreement for that? Can either party provide screenshots?

@Conrad
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[conradev]

Lol Raw & Bless rd. 1

Ya'll should do a seeded tournament next using the results from this one.

I always thought of doing one that was seeded based on amount of CTF kills. Not the best standard but should connote some kind of experience if nothing else.

What program is that btw I need a bracket program.

[conradev]

Raw just called me via satellite phone from the Palace in Morocco and said he beat Bless 20 to 7.

[Zeus]

Raw just called me via satellite phone from the Palace in Morocco and said he beat Bless 20 to 7.

There's screenshots I received of Raw forfeiting match.



The bracket program I used is embedded in forums itself. It's automated as long as participants register correctly.

[Bless]

Raw just called me via satellite phone from the Palace in Morocco and said he beat Bless 20 to 7.

It was 20-17 bro.


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[conradev]

It was 20-17 bro.


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That's what I meant to type actually. My bad.

[Zeus]

That's what I meant to type actually. My bad.

Yes, in that event they have to rematch because the win may be due to luck of crit.

[conradev]

Yes, in that event they have to rematch because the win may be due to luck of crit.

Zzz, why not just declare winner as person who pulls ahead my 5 - 10 while having at least 20 kills like volleyball and other sports.

[Zeus]

Zzz, why not just declare winner as person who pulls ahead my 5 - 10 while having at least 20 kills like volleyball and other sports.

That's an excellent suggestion. Do you mind if I implement that in next tournament?

[conradev]

That's an excellent suggestion. Do you mind if I implement that in next tournament?

That's standard in many games and sportd, ofc not. Interesting to see maybe a score of 50-55 which would indicate a lengthy contest which remained close.

[Kriticality]

That's standard in many games and sportd, ofc not. Interesting to see maybe a score of 50-55 which would indicate a lengthy contest which remained close.

I Prob would've forfeit too. That bless v raw match was super long and tedious. I know he said earlier he was going to be pretty busy. By far the longest I've been in the room for. Felt bad for both of them. Of course that's probably also a testament to how great they both are. I also like the seeding idea based on the results of the tourney.

[Zeus]

That's standard in many games and sportd, ofc not. Interesting to see maybe a score of 50-55 which would indicate a lengthy contest which remained close.

If Bless and Raw want to redo it with suggested rule in place, I don't mind.


I went off of personal experience! :/

[raw]

If Bless and Raw want to redo it with suggested rule in place, I don't mind.


I went off of personal experience! :/

It was a great match indeed. I was having issues with my tablet so i kept switching between my phone and tablet which may have prolonged the match by like 10-15 mins.

Regardless, in the final rounds of the tournament the matches would probably be as long as the one that Bless and I had (which was nearly an hour). I cant imagine playing 2-3 games with multiple opponents.

Bless was a solid opponent but my impatience with the length of the match got the best of me. 20 kills is just too much for CTF... would be okay in TDM since you cant just camp out and hide for however long you want. I think first to 10 kills (with at least a 2 kill lead) would be fine. Then if it's like 10-9, then you play until 20 kills and the same 2+ kill rule to win applies. If not, go to 30 and so on. Kind of like single OT and double OT.

Anyway good luck all

[Zeus]

It was a great match indeed. I was having issues with my tablet so i kept switching between my phone and tablet which may have prolonged the match by like 10-15 mins.

Regardless, in the final rounds of the tournament the matches would probably be as long as the one that Bless and I had (which was nearly an hour). I cant imagine playing 2-3 games with multiple opponents.

Bless was a solid opponent but my impatience with the length of the match got the best of me. 20 kills is just too much for CTF... would be okay in TDM since you cant just camp out and hide for however long you want. I think first to 10 kills (with at least a 2 kill lead) would be fine. Then if it's like 10-9, then you play until 20 kills and the same 2+ kill rule to win applies. If not, go to 30 and so on. Kind of like single OT and double OT.

Anyway good luck all


Perhaps you may want to try a different playstyle against him, Raw.

After you fought, I was curious so I fought vs him & was able to win 2 out of 3 matches with each match being 30 minutes long. Scores: 20-4, 20-11, 20-17 (Bless won this one)


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[raw]

Perhaps you may want to try a different playstyle against him, Raw.

After you fought, I was curious so I fought vs him & was able to win 2 out of 3 matches with each match being 30 minutes long. Scores: 20-4, 20-11, 20-17


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The score was 17-10 at one point. I just don't have the patience for this type of fighting. I got him 4-5 times in a row in a 5 minute period by simply switching up my strategy. But at the end of the day I hate sniping battles. Head to head I'm much better at... which is where majority of my kills were. Bless adapted and my patience wore which is clearly evident by the final score.

If this was TDM I think the rule would have fit (20 kills is good for TDM), and it would've tested a skill which I am much better at.

Anyway GJ bless, you're much better than I am at sniping. Good luck in the rest of the tournament

[Amokaachi]

I won after 2 matches against Kimart.. Thanks and gg..

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[Kingofninjas]

I Prob would've forfeit too. That bless v raw match was super long and tedious. I know he said earlier he was going to be pretty busy. By far the longest I've been in the room for. Felt bad for both of them. Of course that's probably also a testament to how great they both are. I also like the seeding idea based on the results of the tourney.

He he you should have been there for the match between kimart and me. It stretched out for over 2 hours and I'm sure I could have stretched it out to 3 maybe even 4 if my patience had not wore thin.

[Robhawk]

This sounds like a very "exciting" tourney when its all about hiding and matches take several hours to play... omg.

Imho tourneys, no matter if endgame or twink should allways be: JUST player vs player or team vs team -> no walls, no trees, no trulle!


There could be a tourney map,tdm style, just a square room with nothing in it but the players... wouldnt that be easy? :hopelessness:

This effort wont happen, STG`s future PVP is called Call of Champions, deal with it.

If you still want to buy platinum for the AL-PVP part, do it - I WONT !

@mods: Before you delete my post feel free to delete my whole forum account !!! Im tired of wasting my time with factual critiscm beeing deleted by a mod! TY

Also thanks for the incredible effort put into class balance - awesome. :smiley_simmons:

[Zeus]

This sounds like a very "exciting" tourney when its all about hiding and matches take several hours to play... omg.

Imho tourneys, no matter if endgame or twink should allways be: JUST player vs player or team vs team -> no walls, no trees, no trulle!


There could be a tourney map,tdm style, just a square room with nothing in it but the players... wouldnt that be easy? :hopelessness:

This effort wont happen, STG`s future PVP is called Call of Champions, deal with it.

If you still want to buy platinum for the AL-PVP part, do it - I WONT !

@mods: Before you delete my post feel free to delete my whole forum account !!! Im tired of wasting my time with factual critiscm beeing deleted by a mod! TY

Also thanks for the incredible effort put into class balance - awesome. :smiley_simmons:

Matches take me 20-30 minutes each on average...including the ones against Kimart and Bless. I don't understand why it takes so long, honestly, lol.

[Zeus]

I won after 2 matches against Kimart.. Thanks and gg..

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When do you want to fight?

[Serillia]

When do you want to fight?

Fight's over?

[Zeus]

Fight's over?

Yes, forgot to post! Amok advances!


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[Amokaachi]

Thanks again for the great match..Enjoyed every second of it..6 sets in 4 hours..gg

[siddhant]

Yes, forgot to post! Amok advances!


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U lost?-.-tss

[xnorwayx]

Zeus lost....? No way..

[noahgoulin]

What was the score?

[Hilyana]

When are Fog and Snackie gonna fight? Waiting after this to continue since a week. :/

[Fog]

When are Fog and Snackie gonna fight? Waiting after this to continue since a week. :/
Lolol im still waiting for snackie.

[Zeus]

Was a great clash between 2 skilled rogues... one had to lose. Grats Amokaachi! Here's hoping for an even better final match!

Yep, I was in lead 20-12, 20-19 & then Amok pulled ahead with 20-6 & 20-15! 4 hour semi final and super fun!

I'll work with support to get the name reservation on Apollo removed in preparation for the final match. Thank you to everybody for participating, I had A LOT of fun!

[Robhawk]

Zeus u cant lose to Amokaachi. I kicked his *** in vs before he had arcane ring, lol. ;)

He often played smart but i didnt expect him to beat you. I put the pressure on you, so its my fault. :hopelessness: ;)

[nevercan]

U lost?-.-tss
He just didnt want to win himself :p

[Bless]

Still waiting for my match


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[nevercan]

Still waiting for my match


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[Zeus]

Zeus u cant lose to Amokaachi. I kicked his *** in vs before he had arcane ring, lol. ;)

He often played smart but i didnt expect him to beat you. I put the pressure on you, so its my fault. :hopelessness: ;)

A win is a win - I won't talk bad about it, sorry! I may have made some mistakes but they were my mistakes to make and I take responsibility for them. So, congratulations to Amokaachi for advancing!

[Givemeahellyeah]

Zeus u cant lose to Amokaachi. I kicked his *** in vs before he had arcane ring, lol. ;)

He often played smart but i didnt expect him to beat you. I put the pressure on you, so its my fault. :hopelessness: ;)

Lol, bro... Skills matters a lot.. He is too smart :)

[Snackie]

20-19 against Fog. I hate it when you camping and stacking packs lol. Anyway gg :) I managed to catch up from 8-1
Thanks for the match Fog.

[Zeus]

20-19 against Fog. I hate it when you camping and stacking packs lol. Anyway gg :) I managed to catch up from 8-1
Thanks for the match Fog.

The win has to be 20-16 or more. You'll have to redo or unless Fog says it's okay for you to advance, lol.

[siddhant]

Yep, I was in lead 20-12, 20-19 & then Amok pulled ahead with 20-6 & 20-15! 4 hour semi final and super fun!

I'll work with support to get the name reservation on Apollo removed in preparation for the final match. Thank you to everybody for participating, I had A LOT of fun!

demn y u lose broke my hatrcik of predicting winner-.- nvm i guess i will predict taste might win

[Zeus]

demn y u lose broke my hatrcik of predicting winner-.- nvm i guess i will predict taste might win

Happens dude, I can't win every tournament, lol. :)

As I said before, all the expectations put a lot of pressure on me! The tourbaments are nevertheless extremely fun & I'm quite interested to see who will win the final match.

[Reaprr]

Zeus, Why are you participating in your own tournament? Cause if you're truly the best rogue than you'll just win your own tourney and that's no fun :3

[siddhant]

Zeus, Why are you participating in your own tournament? Cause if you're truly the best rogue than you'll just win your own tourney and that's no fun :3
Ermm he already out just read 4-5posts behind this just reading the first post and commenting err and y isnt it fun ?the rules and gear are same for every1 so there is no harm with him taking part.

[Reaprr]

Ermm he already out just read 4-5posts behind this just reading the first post and commenting err and y isnt it fun ?the rules and gear are same for every1 so there is no harm with him taking part.
Didn't read the first comment and post, It isn't fun IMO because its your tournament and if your hosting a tourney seems silly to me to participate is all : )

[nevercan]

Didn't read the first comment and post, It isn't fun IMO because its your tournament and if your hosting a tourney seems silly to me to participate is all : )
Thats why he did lose :)

[siddhant]

Didn't read the first comment and post, It isn't fun IMO because its your tournament and if your hosting a tourney seems silly to me to participate is all : )
Just because brazil hosted the 2014 world cup does it mean they shouldnt have taken part in it imo u are saying baseless points:p

[Reaprr]

Just because brazil hosted the 2014 world cup does it mean they shouldnt have taken part in it imo u are saying baseless points[emoji14]
Idk why you compared an event watched by millions and held in high esteem, to an in-game tournament but I'm sure you had your reasons.

[Zeus]

Lol @ complaints.


Yes Reaprr, I'm totally looking to benefit myself. That's why I put prizes that come from my own pocket. LOL! :rolleyes:

[Volt]

Zeus is the best tank I know.

[Zeus]

Zeus is the best tank I know.

worst*

:p

[Hail]

worst*

:p

Sorry dude, but I claimed the Worst Tank Ever title ages ago :rolleyes:

[Zeus]

Sorry dude, but I claimed the Worst Tank Ever title ages ago :rolleyes:

Let's host a tournament on who's the worst tank. :p

[Remarked]

Let's host a tournament on who's the worst tank. :p
Zephy wins.

[Rx8]

Its a direct finals match,

Posiedon VS HailNUB.

Posiedon looses thus claims the worst title tank EVER.

[Hail]

Let's host a tournament on who's the worst tank. :p

Omg yes haha, whoever loses advances on to the next round. If players are found losing on purpose they are disqualified xD

@Rx8 Its Goldanub tyvm

On topic, it would be nice to see the finals recorded. Any chance of that happening?

[Rx8]

Omg yes haha, whoever loses advances on to the next round. If players are found losing on purpose they are disqualified xD

@Rx8 Its Goldanub tyvm

On topic, it would be nice to see the finals recorded. Any chance of that happening?

How many times do even change those names -.-

[Serillia]

Topic successfully changed!

[Bless]

Been waiting for an advancement since 2 weeks....If you couldn't do your matches within your times because you're too busy then why sign up?

[Hilyana]

Been waiting for an advancement since 2 weeks....If you couldn't do your matches within your times because you're too busy then why sign up?

Omg I almost forgot we were having a tournament.. haha!

[Volt]

Let's host a tournament on who's the worst tank. :p
Zephy wins.

I win

[Serillia]

Is the tourney still happening or?

[Bless]

Is the tourney still happening or?

My match is underway, the score is 1-1 (she won one, I won one match). Now awaiting snackie for our last round of our match.


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[xnorwayx]

Is tournament still happening or?

[Hilyana]

Is tournament still happening or?

Not sure if Snackie is still alive or no... But I'll say yes, still.

[Serillia]

*knock knock*

I thought you would be disqualified if you dont show up in a week?

[Alhuntrazeck]

*knock knock*

I thought you would be disqualified if you dont show up in a week?
Don't, you'll need them brain cells to make a comeback to this witty insult.

Your turn

[Serillia]

Don't, you'll need them brain cells to make a comeback to this witty insult.

Your turn

Erm okay

[xnorwayx]

I guess tournament is over. Gratz to all participants to don't get to know a winner ._.

[Bless]

I guess tournament is over. Gratz to all participants to don't get to know a winner ._.
I'm waiting since 1 month..... Ffs

[Fog]

I'm waiting since 1 month..... Ffs
Ik ik. Its happened to me b4 ;)

[Bless]

Ik ik. Its happened to me b4 ;)
It's bs....annoying

[Fog]

It's bs....annoying
Good luck on waiting :) hope u dont kill urself [emoji14]

[Bless]

Good luck on waiting :) hope u dont kill urself [emoji14]
Help me die then huhu

[Hilyana]

Help me die then huhu

Want me to kill you? >:3

[Bless]

Want me to kill you? >:3
Yes pls :3 come bae

[Zeus]

It's bs....annoying

I agree, but I also do not want to DQ everyone just to make finals happen. Where's the fun in that...so finish it in your own time and whoever wins will get the name! :D

[Bless]

I agree, but I also do not want to DQ everyone just to make finals happen. Where's the fun in that...so finish it in your own time and whoever wins will get the name! :D
I cannot fight someone who isn't here, but of course I'll wait, there's no honour in advancing because of DQ.

I'll wait.

[Hilyana]

Yes pls :3 come bae

On my way C:


I agree, but I also do not want to DQ everyone just to make finals happen. Where's the fun in that...so finish it in your own time and whoever wins will get the name! :D

There's already no fun at all, waiting years for someone who will never fight is just annoying and boring.

[suckyiknow]

Okay so seriously, I guess the tourney is done for? Copied from your rules -

- A screenshot of agreed match time for both players must be shown/posted in thread. If a player does not show up at agreed time, the other player that has must show proof that he/she was online at scheduled time and he/she will be advanced to next round.

Obviously Bless was online, while Snackie was not. So, what is the problem? Why is Bless not advanced while Snackie is DQ'd?

Or have you simply given up on the tournament...

[Zeus]

Okay so seriously, I guess the tourney is done for? Copied from your rules -

- A screenshot of agreed match time for both players must be shown/posted in thread. If a player does not show up at agreed time, the other player that has must show proof that he/she was online at scheduled time and he/she will be advanced to next round.

Obviously Bless was online, while Snackie was not. So, what is the problem? Why is Bless not advanced while Snackie is DQ'd?

Or have you simply given up on the tournament...

Copied from my own statement, I don't want to DQ anyone. Considering the tournament comes from my own pocket and goodwill, I think it's more than fair to make others fight for the prize.

If you have something against it - fund your own tournament.

[Erebos]

u should do some tournments for warr also

[Zeus]

Bless & Snackie, please try your hardest to get the matches in...I really do not want to have to DQ anyone but at this point, I will, since there is a huge fuss about it.

[Kingofninjas]

Bless & Snackie, please try your hardest to get the matches in...I really do not want to have to DQ anyone but at this point, I will, since there is a huge fuss about it.

I have seen and played against bless on multiple occasions since this issue of snackie not showing up started. During this entire time, we have not received so much as a single statement from snackie. I agree there is no honor in winning by a DQ, but nor is it reasonable to be forced to wait for this long.

This is your tournament, and your rules which are subject to change as per your wishes, but as a participant who has already lost, I am quite curious to know who the winner is.

[Zeus]

I have seen and played against bless on multiple occasions since this issue of snackie not showing up started. During this entire time, we have not received so much as a single statement from snackie. I agree there is no honor in winning by a DQ, but nor is it reasonable to be forced to wait for this long.

This is your tournament, and your rules which are subject to change as per your wishes, but as a participant who has already lost, I am quite curious to know who the winner is.

Yes, which is why I gave her 7 more days to get the match in. If it's not in by then, I'll DQ.

[Zeus]

I can if I wanted to. There's nothing holding me from doing it.

Yet another statement in which my assumption of keeping a clean image can be applied. You want to but you more or less cant.

Of course its not like you're scamming anyone, I've never said it was.You didn't fully intend to give it away as you yourself entered the tournament and only after you were defeated are you trying to remove the reservation.So you had some hope of keeping the name (how much of a hope, we both know).

Its true, you're posts are more or less giving solutions but you yourself was not trying to progress the tournament until this, "fuss" as you so kindly put it, started. Imo, a host should be more responsible. But it is just my opinion and it is just an assumption. Maybe you were trying to progress, maybe you were not.Either one of them is true and it's my assumption that the latter is true but then again, it's just an assumption. I am not testing you, I merely want reasons because everyone has been looking forward to see who wins this tournament. But now, all the excitement because it's been a month since any actual progress has taken place and I fail to see any attempt from your part to progress your tournament.

You could've let people post without writing a response.But you, yourself, should have strictly abided by the rules and progressed the tournament. Dq'ing a person who does not show up and then finding the winner is much more exciting than waiting a whole month ignoring your own rules waiting for him/her to show up.Then again,its my opinion and it may/may not have been the right thing to do.I'm just expressing my opinion here.

Cheers ^_^


I fully intend to give away the name and I am actually trying everything in my power to get the reservation removed. Would you like me to send you the support emails or PM to Remiem? Yes, I sent an email afterwards but can you blame me? Why would I take the effort to remove a name reservation if I were to win a tournament? Emailing support is bothersome and time consuming - a process that I did not want to have to deal with until it was necessary. Additionally, if I had won, I would just put my own name at risk should I want to use it or transfer it to my main.

You say a host should be more responsible - I agree. What do you define as responsibility? Even after I lost, I still made effort to join and spectate other rounds including Bless vs. Snackie. I cannot really take action if there's literally no progress. What is there to comment about? No progress? I know Snackie is a maxed and active player. Eventually, even if it DOES take some time, the match would have been completed. This is my reason for waiting. You accuse me of wanting to keep the name yet you fail to understand a delay does NOT stop the inevitable. Eventually, Snackie vs. Bless would have an outcome. It was only a matter of time - I hope you understand that. If you are impatient on this, that is a personal problem.

Bless himself agreed to waiting. If he pushed for a DQ, I would have. Since he agreed, there was really no issue in this. Again, you must remember a DELAY does NOT stop the inevitable.


Now that I have answered your questions, any further instigations will be viewed as derailment of the thread and reported.

[Bless]

You really don't have to listen to slowking dude, it's your tournament and you can do with it as you wish. Personally I think waiting for Snackie and Bless to get their match in is fair (without DQ) I don't know why you're letting people like slowking get to you. Show your dignity and keep this tournament up until it's finished fairly and the winner gets the name that was deserved. What if Snackie is like insanely busy? Snackie can kill Bless as much as Bless can kill Snackie, and if Snackie were to come back and not have been given the wait she/he deserves with the name. She just might quit snacking due to huge depression. Right, I appreciate the humour and all, but honestly, there are other people waiting who have a life too. Under such circumstances, would you allow each player 1+ month time to get their match in? I don't have much of a problem waiting though since I'm not going anywhere. Just, for future tournaments, participants must be deterred not to make hold ups like this, i.e. through more firm consequences.

[Unhinqed]

Right, I appreciate the humour and all, but honestly, there are other people waiting who have a life too. Under such circumstances, would you allow each player 1+ month time to get their match in? I don't have much of a problem waiting though since I'm not going anywhere. Just, for future tournaments, participants must be deterred not to make hold ups like this, i.e. through more firm consequences.
What humour? I am being serious ;)

[Serillia]

Its been almost 7 days and still no Snackie vs Bless?

[suckyiknow]

I'll do this: Snackie gets 7 days to get the match in. If she can't, I'll advance Bless.

I expect Bless and Snackie to make every attempt to finish.



So, Slowking. Accuse me of wanting to keep name again, please? :rolleyes:

Thank you for understanding.

You see, a tournament has to be kept professional. Rules can't be flouted in the favor of the creator's personal friends. I hope this mistake won't be repeated again for your next tournament, should you host one!

Apologies if I came across as rude in any of my posts. I respect you, Zeus, and thank you for putting in your time to create tournaments for the community with little to no personal gain for yourself.

[Zeus]

Thank you for understanding.

You see, a tournament has to be kept professional. Rules can't be flouted in the favor of the creator's personal friends. I hope this mistake won't be repeated again for your next tournament, should you host one!

Apologies if I came across as rude in any of my posts. I respect you, Zeus, and thank you for putting in your time to create tournaments for the community with little to no personal gain for yourself.

No problem! Bless is more of a friend than Snackie though. :D

[kim_metra]

good to know

[Bless]

Its been almost 7 days and still no Snackie vs Bless?
I haven't seen her around.

[Zeus]

Advanced Bless! Congratulations!

[Wazakesy]

Finally!!!!!!!!

Gratz bless!!!

[Bless]

bless vs. iady >.>

[Wazakesy]

bless vs. iady >.>

>_>
<_<
>_>
>_<
<_>

[Zeus]

I'm sorry, but doesn't that make 4 corners?

Or 2, if you count your "guests, observers or participants" as one?

:rolleyes:

Or perhaps, as per your previous post, 5 or 3 corners, since you seem to think Slowking is in Bless's?

I'm confused :confusion:

Zeferoth,

The situation has been dealt with and there's no need for more drama. Let it go or please find another thread to argue with Kriticality on.

[Kriticality]

Maybe make a private group for all the participants zeus?

[raw]

I named him out not as a threat but because it appeals personally since me and him both know each other and used to help each out in PvP before he quit.

I warned you once before to test my patience with instigations. As a result, I'm shutting down the tournament and will distribute the prizes evenly to the remaining contestants.


Thank you all for participating and in the future, please do not mistake my patience as inability to take action.

I'm confused. So due to someone testing your patience you're closing down a tournament? Bless, Iady, Amok worked hard, and won tedious rounds in their brackets, and have been waiting for over a month to compete due to Snackie's inactiveness.

Obviously anyone who organized a tournament has the right to close down the tournament, but this seems rather unfair, and quite honestly like a bit of a power-trip.

[Bless]

Let's not ruin the fun guys, honestly it'll take no more than 2 weeks at maximum to finish the tournament.

Me and iady will have our semi finals match soon, please do not ruin the tournament for the participants by having debates about "corners" nobody gives a crap about, thanks.

Let the semis begin.


Edit: The tournament is shut down? :/

[Zeus]

I'm confused. So due to someone testing your patience you're closing down a tournament? Bless, Iady, Amok worked hard, and won tedious rounds in their brackets, and have been waiting for over a month to compete due to Snackie's inactiveness.

Obviously anyone who organized a tournament has the right to close down the tournament, but this seems rather unfair, and quite honestly like a bit of a power-trip.


I've been more than fair and lenient. I do not host tournaments to be insulted, ridiculed, or flamed. If that is what you are interested in - then host your own & deal with instigations, flames, etc. FYI, this is the only failed tournament I've hosted in 3 years and have personally hosted more than a handful. Severely disappointed that players cannot keep out drama.

Yall are welcome to compete but I will give prizes based on who is remaining. If participants find the prizes unfit, let me know and I will push for more.


Remaining participants, I messaged the prizes.

[Zeus]

I've come up with a better solution - remaining contestants!

I'll have this thread locked and y'all carry out your matches as scheduled. When the tournament is over, I'll post a winning thread that way others cannot cause drama.



Have fun and good luck!

[Arpluvial]

Hey guys!

Per the OP's request, I am going to go ahead and lock this thread down. Let's keep it friendly!