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gumball3000
02-24-2015, 02:32 PM
Please add option to vote kick players if the simple majority of 3 players in ctf or tdm agrees to it. You should only be able to kick team mates and only after the map has been locked.
This is a real issue at endgame where some people ruin the game experience for others.
I am not talking about blocking games on purpose only. Someone might go afk in the middle of the game so instead of relying on the other team to sit, we should just be able to kick the afker.

obee
02-24-2015, 02:34 PM
People are gonna abuse this by just kicking out people they don't like.

siddhant
02-24-2015, 02:38 PM
true legendary geared ppl will just be kicked by the arcanes so no

Dragoonclaws
02-24-2015, 02:46 PM
The algorithme would let people kick others only if the player is hosting the run. Since no runs are hosted, kick option stays unvailable.

gumball3000
02-24-2015, 02:53 PM
First of all there should be no kicking before the map got locked.
Then kicking should occur only if lets say 4 people agree in ctf.
I think if 4 people agree you should leave because you are ruining the game experience for them and you don't then you really deserve to be kicked.
And believe me, this would solve more peoblems than it would add.

Smallvil
02-24-2015, 02:53 PM
This is prone for players using dummy.. not recommendable..

gumball3000
02-24-2015, 03:00 PM
There is so much blocking going on that this would really be of great help to solve alot of the issues and the chaos that exists.
Not in all the games someone will get kicked but if you do then you can always look for another game thats maybe easier for you.

gumball3000
02-24-2015, 03:03 PM
This is prone for players using dummy.. not recommendable..
Can you please explain how this would add to the dummy farmers population?
Get kicked if all other 4 players in your team for ctf and 3 players for tdm agree to it.

Smallvil
02-24-2015, 03:08 PM
If a player has more than device he can manipulate a map of ctf and tdm. He can kick unwanted players and he can solely kill all his dummies.. if u get my point..

gumball3000
02-24-2015, 03:10 PM
If a player has more than device he can manipulate a map of ctf and tdm. He can kick unwanted players and he can solely kill all his dummies.. if u get my point..
No i don't get your point. It's so easy to find an empty map in ctf and farm dummy i don't think anyone will use 4 devices and 4 toons just to manipulate a map when he can easily find an empty one.

Actually i have see many people staying dead in a map probably with the intent of farming dummy after the map has cleared because they ruined the game so in fact kicking them would only make their dummy farming harder.

Candylicks
02-24-2015, 03:13 PM
You have the option to leave map if there is something not working.

Kick option opens the door for bullies.

obee
02-24-2015, 03:14 PM
I mean, you can just join another game. I don't agree with this, simply because people will abuse it.

Smallvil
02-24-2015, 03:18 PM
No i don't get your point. It's so easy to find an empty map in ctf and farm dummy i don't think anyone will use 4 devices and 4 toons just to manipulate a map when he can easily find an empty one.
Well no one will agree your suggestion maybe some but not those good players.. yeah you're idea is good still not recommendable..

gumball3000
02-24-2015, 03:23 PM
So lets say one guild has 5 players on one side and one player on the other. The 5 players kill the othe 4 opposing players while their guildmate takes free flags on the other side. You find this more abusive than kicking the free flagger? This is happening extremely often in endgame.

The bullying thats going on right now is because some guilds have so many players that they can fill 5 ctf maps if they wanted to.




The only way i see this working is that you can only vote to kick a player that entered the map via the join button or if they have a guild mate on the opposite team. Another possibility is to only be able to kick a player who has not dealt or received a reasonable amount of damage compared to his teammates

Really great ideas shiny, i did not post this to hurt the lower geared players or prevent them from playing because ill admit i am not even average geared for todays standards but to stop the abuse that is going on right now from people who do it on purpose.

Newcomx
02-25-2015, 01:36 AM
Fully geared players often ask not so fully geared players to leave pvp room.... so with this idea, you will make it official.

Arachnophobik
02-25-2015, 03:41 AM
true legendary geared ppl will just be kicked by the arcanes so no

No. The legendary people are the ones who will kick arcanes XD

Pirate Captain
02-25-2015, 09:16 AM
People are gonna abuse this by just kicking out people they don't like.

That's the point

eonziggys
02-25-2015, 10:21 AM
No to this

Ravager
02-25-2015, 12:57 PM
No to this.

Dummy farm rooms will kick random people who are interrupting their dummy farming.

Often times, many free flaggers get mad at anyone who "disrupts" their free flagging, including myself. They'll just boot me out.

New players won't have a chance to play since they'll probably get booted out constantly.

Pirate Captain
02-25-2015, 01:35 PM
I like this idea
1-you can boot spot blockers
2-you can boot people interrupting gws/1v1s
If new players get booted then they go to pve and get better gear so it's "encouraging" new players to actually get decent gear before going to pvp and by encouraging I mean basically forcing. Also if a new player is dying to play pvp (no pun intended) they will get booted once or twice but then get into a game with other new players who were also booted from games and they will actually have a competition instead of just being farmed. So eventually game rooms will be either full of new players or geared pvpers making the game funner for both. People are already dummy farming this won't change the dummy farming industry and if anything it lets you boot the dummy farmers who are lying down dead on the ground waiting for everyone to leave.

UndeadJudge
02-25-2015, 01:36 PM
No to this.

Dummy farm rooms will kick random people who are interrupting their dummy farming.

Often times, many free flaggers get mad at anyone who "disrupts" their free flagging, including myself. They'll just boot me out.

New players won't have a chance to play since they'll probably get booted out constantly.

True, but does it really matter? It's so obvious to tell who dummy farms anyway. We really shouldn't let dummy farmers influence our additions to new PvP content. Besides, a large portion of the leaderboard is already occupied by dummy farmers. More of them won't change much.

Free flagging, lol. Honestly I blame the AP for that. It should really be removed and a title granted to people that have it (like Midas).

Last point here is why this won't ever be implemented in the game. Realistically, every person who plays PvP has an equal share in the game.

I do want something to be done about blocking, but vote kick isn't really the answer. There's really no way to implement it without upsetting someone.


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Doobiez
02-25-2015, 02:17 PM
-1 too many problems would come from this I see benefits but way more problems

gumball3000
06-08-2015, 08:14 PM
I like this idea
1-you can boot spot blockers
2-you can boot people interrupting gws/1v1s
If new players get booted then they go to pve and get better gear so it's "encouraging" new players to actually get decent gear before going to pvp and by encouraging I mean basically forcing. Also if a new player is dying to play pvp (no pun intended) they will get booted once or twice but then get into a game with other new players who were also booted from games and they will actually have a competition instead of just being farmed. So eventually game rooms will be either full of new players or geared pvpers making the game funner for both. People are already dummy farming this won't change the dummy farming industry and if anything it lets you boot the dummy farmers who are lying down dead on the ground waiting for everyone to leave.
Very good points!

Zylx
06-08-2015, 08:32 PM
Lol@pvp

If you're in a PvP zone with people you don't like, then you should be the one to leave. This isn't going to stop blocking, it'll end up with those with better gear kicking those that are either with weak gear, or those that aren't in their guild. This suggestion is totally unfair because everyone has the right to PvP, and no other player(s) should be able to take that right away. This is the worst thing that could ever come into the game.

Bluebatthing
06-08-2015, 09:00 PM
How about this? Take away the ability to pick team, randomly assign each player to a team. If you're in a party, you'll stay together in one team. This still leaves one spot open, but it'll lessen severe blocking. 4vs5 is more managable than 1 or 2 vs 5.

Oursizes
06-08-2015, 09:03 PM
How about this? Take away the ability to pick team, randomly assign each player to a team. If you're in a party, you'll stay together in one team. This still leaves one spot open, but it'll lessen severe blocking. 4vs5 is more managable than 1 or 2 vs 5.

So 4 nekro on one side destroying everything? No way. Your suggestion is good but even if in a party should be assigned random teams. There should be a seperate pvp map for gw friendly clash and stuff

Youtuber
06-08-2015, 09:12 PM
I say no to this, people would just abuse this option even if it was added for their own uses. If you dont like the ganging etc. then go find a new lobby. Its a simple solution.

Bluebatthing
06-08-2015, 09:14 PM
Don't want to fight a team with 4 nekros? simply leave the room. Pretty soon those OP players who have outrageous advantages over the majority will have no one to fight with. The problem is that out-matched players who keep staying in a room where they're getting farmed, then complain about how unbalanced it is. Let the OP peeps duke it out with players at their levels, if you can't hang? Leave.
So 4 nekro on one side destroying everything? No way. Your suggestion is good but even if in a party should be assigned random teams. There should be a seperate pvp map for gw friendly clash and stuff



Ps: I vote no for the kick option, it will get abused, no doubt.

xtian02
06-08-2015, 09:28 PM
No please..

Earlingstad
06-09-2015, 01:14 AM
I disagree with the vote kick option. It can be exploited.

Vote kicking will spoil the user experience. Imagine new players getting kicked and not knowing why. Undergeared players who want to learn pvp getting kicked because the seasoned players just want to win. Maxed out players getting kicked because they put in effort to acquire their stuff. Alts will be created to troll-kick players.

Pvp is a mix of all kinds of people. If you do not want to be in a particular game, then just leave. Form a party with friends before entering pvp.

Ravager
06-10-2015, 03:59 AM
I say no to this, people would just abuse this option even if it was added for their own uses. If you dont like the ganging etc. then go find a new lobby. Its a simple solution.

Vote kicking is not the solution but at the same time, looking for a new lobby isnt either. I constantly warp to find other rooms. At any given time there are only 1 to 2 rooms of each type (tdm and ctf) that are randomly joinable. So sometimes I end up rewarping for 3 to 30 minutes. Then I finally give up. Theres no joy in that.

Candylicks
06-10-2015, 12:28 PM
Vote kicking is not the solution but at the same time, looking for a new lobby isnt either. I constantly warp to find other rooms. At any given time there are only 1 to 2 rooms of each type (tdm and ctf) that are randomly joinable. So sometimes I end up rewarping for 3 to 30 minutes. Then I finally give up. Theres no joy in that.

Agree. It's hard to find a decent game as of late.

I wish more people would simply come on whatever team has less players instead of all joining the same side. Who in their right mind would stay in that room? Not me. I have tried many times to do that and call some friends, but incoming gang 100% of the time. Makes zero sense to me like the majority of PvP.

Rage of Ren Gol can't come soon enough folks!!!

Serancha
06-10-2015, 05:35 PM
Maybe things are finally coming to the point where people learn that if they continue stacking teams so they can overpower everyone else, people are not going to stick around to be slaughtered. When everyone leaves the room as soon as an op player (and their op pals) show up, it defeats the purpose of being so op.

This problem is largely due to the massive stat gap between arcane and mythic players (not to mention legendary). The 100+ damage gap between weapon types (legendary vs mythic bow) is a major flaw in the game, not to mention another 100 damage for arcane ring, and 600 hp for mythic amulet, over the next best items. No wonder nobody wants to fight arcane players - there is no fun in not having any chance. Vote kick would just make this worse.

Arcane rogues 1-comboing each other is not most people's idea of fun either. Between the stat gaps and the "stack up to crush them all" mentality, it's not much wonder that many pvpers have switched to twink levels or else gone pure pve.

Being arcane should give an advantage, but not the equivalent of 5+ levels over other players.

Dimitrian
06-25-2015, 03:41 PM
That's why i'm suggesting a matchmaking sistem.

Yes,yes i know it's not a MOBA...

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Kingofninjas
06-25-2015, 05:29 PM
A simple solution is to put in a 1 vs 1 arena (copy paste coding from tdm and scale it down?) and then simply not allow someone to join a map if there is a guildy on the opposite side.
If someone blocks a random game, and yes, it does happens, especially by pinoy rules and kapitaran players, boot them if they haven't dealt any damage in x amount of time (2 minutes seems more than fair to me).

Amvulpix
06-25-2015, 10:26 PM
It's season 8 😂😂😭😂😭 game is old.

Dashie
06-25-2015, 10:48 PM
People are gonna abuse this by just kicking out people they don't like.

Agree :)


You have the option to leave map if there is something not working.

Kick option opens the door for bullies.

Exactly ^_^