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Motivating
03-08-2015, 10:35 AM
Would anyone be kind enough as to help me out with build/gear. I have no idea what I'm doing :)

zaorago
03-08-2015, 12:28 PM
Hey evil, so for a 25 mage:

GEAR:
Halloween bone armor
Halloween bone helm
Pink 25 paw
Pink 25 evidence braver
Damage/hit% ring

BUILD:
6 bom
4 bov
1frost
6 light
1 fire
1 Drain
4 heal
1 ms

ATTRIBUTES:
Some Dex for ring/hit%
Rest int (4 heal will act like 6 heal to a Dex mage)

D-:
03-08-2015, 01:08 PM
I'd pm Wrathfulbeast or Swagtony in game for help.

zaorago
03-08-2015, 03:14 PM
I'd pm Wrathfulbeast or Swagtony in game for help.

Blitz*

Much more experienced.

Iilhopeliliil
03-08-2015, 05:05 PM
Blitz*

Much more experienced.

He still plays? O.o

D-:
03-08-2015, 07:16 PM
Blitz*

Much more experienced.

He quit. I named an active player.

Motivating
03-09-2015, 10:33 AM
Ty guiz

D-:
03-09-2015, 02:10 PM
Blitz*

Much more experienced.

Also, tony beat blitz both on bear and Mage.

In fact, tony was one of the original pvpers at 26, while blitz was not. Blitz did 35.

Rescind
03-09-2015, 05:42 PM
Eroxah is pretty goooood

The Voices
03-10-2015, 05:43 PM
I dont know about you guys, but I never use 6 Bom on my L25 mage. Never. It was either 3,4,5, or none at all. I put more points into heal.

The Voices
03-10-2015, 05:45 PM
And I used no ms. At least, I didn't believe in ms at that time, due to the popularity of fbow and paw mages back then. Ms will kill you if you dont time it correctly.

AppleNoob
03-10-2015, 08:02 PM
And I used no ms. At least, I didn't believe in ms at that time, due to the popularity of fbow and paw mages back then. Ms will kill you if you dont time it correctly.

There is more SSC mages than paw mages, as far as I can tell, so MS is actually more viable than it used to be.

The Voices
03-10-2015, 09:00 PM
There is more SSC mages than paw mages, as far as I can tell, so MS is actually more viable than it used to be.

I still dont believe in Ms. Well... Maybe I think this because I cant time it LOLOLOLOL. But I do fine without ms. More points into heal = more sustain. More sustain = win more games. Winning more games = eternal happiness. Eternal happiness = You wont want to kill yourself because you failed to ms correctly.

The Voices
03-10-2015, 09:04 PM
Im not bes 25 doe. Everybody knows that im not bes at anything.

AppleNoob
03-11-2015, 12:42 AM
I still dont believe in Ms. Well... Maybe I think this because I cant time it LOLOLOLOL. But I do fine without ms. More points into heal = more sustain. More sustain = win more games. Winning more games = eternal happiness. Eternal happiness = You wont want to kill yourself because you failed to ms correctly.

Ms= more sustain.... in fact it can be approximately two times your max hp if you time it right.

Etarbitrev
03-15-2015, 10:56 AM
There is more SSC mages than paw mages, as far as I can tell, so MS is actually more viable than it used to be.
Sorry but when weren't they viable? I did 23 pre fbow & it was pretty viable for me.

AppleNoob
03-15-2015, 06:36 PM
Sorry but when weren't they viable? I did 23 pre fbow & it was pretty viable for me.

Back prenerf ms really couldn't save you at all due to you being nuked so hard.

Jyuu1205
03-15-2015, 09:00 PM
1 frost 6 light 1 icestorm 3 fire 1 drain 1 ms 6 bom 4 bov 1 heal, 22 int all dex!

Use hallo int set, Forg 25 pink or paw int set setup.

Combo: frost light fire drain, heal when you think is the right time to heal.

Ring: Champion's fine band or acrobat's (2 dodge ring)

Face: Lynx or mystic elf, crit face seems useless.

Motivating
03-16-2015, 11:28 AM
ty Jun bb I'll try that

zaorago
03-16-2015, 12:38 PM
1 frost 6 light 1 icestorm 3 fire 1 drain 1 ms 6 bom 4 bov 1 heal


I'd switch that to:

6bom
6bov
1 Fost
6 light
1 fire
2 heal
1 drain
1 ms

:D

JTZ
03-16-2015, 08:47 PM
I found 6 bom 6 light 4 heal 4 bov 1 frost 1 fire 1 drain 1 ms to be the most consistent but its pretty boring and you have to know 8m range to kite bears.

Jyuu1205
03-17-2015, 12:44 AM
I'd switch that to:

6bom
6bov
1 Fost
6 light
1 fire
2 heal
1 drain
1 ms

:D

Still would work :P I used 3 fire because I prefer 10m of fire against bears, instead of 8m fire.

omglelz
03-17-2015, 02:11 PM
If anyone ever needs help with 8m Fire kiting I can help. I think I've mastered it at that level. I do it so well to the point that I beat most 30 bears.

zaorago
03-18-2015, 01:12 AM
I found 6 bom 6 light 4 heal 4 bov 1 frost 1 fire 1 drain 1 ms to be the most consistent but its pretty boring and you have to know 8m range to kite bears.

Yeah same thing as mine but -2bom +2heal.
Wonder if a 5 bom 3 heal would bridge the gap between armor and heal...I'd have to try that out.

AppleNoob
03-18-2015, 06:47 AM
Yeah same thing as mine but -2bom +2heal.
Wonder if a 5 bom 3 heal would bridge the gap between armor and heal...I'd have to try that out.

Hey ding dong, BOV is the armor buff.

Motivating
03-18-2015, 10:48 AM
Yeah same thing as mine but -2bom +2heal.
Wonder if a 5 bom 3 heal would bridge the gap between armor and heal...I'd have to try that out.

Or you could just -1bov +1heal and use a 8arm ring.

zaorago
03-18-2015, 12:04 PM
Or you could just -1bov +1heal and use a 8arm ring.

That's exactly what i just said.

Motivating
03-18-2015, 01:44 PM
I said use an armor ring. Read plz

zaorago
03-19-2015, 11:35 PM
I said use an armor ring. Read plz

The same exact build i said.
We're talking about builds here... Aren't we?

Motivating
03-22-2015, 07:57 AM
Yes we are. I simply said it would be better to -1bov and +1heal because bov gives +8 arm and you can just use a ring that give +8arm instead.

omgteenwolf
03-22-2015, 03:00 PM
talk to getshyton hes the best ;)

Motivating
04-01-2015, 09:11 AM
Same.

Etarbitrev
04-14-2015, 04:15 AM
Back prenerf ms really couldn't save you at all due to you being nuked so hard.
Which prenerf are you talking about cus from the 22-27 pvp where I'm from, the skill of it was the ms timing & the ability to nuke ppl before they msed. Much like mage vs mage at 66 imo.

Etarbitrev
04-15-2015, 02:44 AM
Sorry stomp, but 6 BoV is pointless with 2 heal, I do believe jun's build would beat yours.

Budapest
04-15-2015, 09:19 AM
I enjoy just nuking, so this build will be nuke. Not much sustain. It's what I used for my 27 mage, but it is also for 25-26 mages (If you remove BoV - 1 point from firestorm).

Stats:
52/55 Int, rest Dex (Preferred)
22 Int, rest Dex

Gear:
L25-27 Pink Forgotten Bow
L25 Dex Hallo Helm
L25 Dex Hallo Armor/L15 Alchemist Armor
L25 Int Crystalline/Earthquake Set + L10 Int Mage Plat Pack/L5 Alchemist for regen.

Build:
1 BoV (or none at all)
6 BoM
1 Heal
4 Drain
6 Light
1 Frostbite
6 Firestorm (or 5 firestorm)
1 Mana Shield

Etarbitrev
04-15-2015, 01:59 PM
I partially agree with ^ but I have to be honest I prefer a bit more sustain when using nuke mages. 3 heal 2 drain usually keeps you alive for another couple seconds, usually long enough to kill a debuff or dmg bear.

I just feel that today's combat doesn't fair well off 1 heal as it isn't very good when dealing with teamers + just isn't/wasn't enough sustainability when I do 25/27 mage

Budapest
04-15-2015, 02:06 PM
I partially agree with ^ but I have to be honest I prefer a bit more sustain when using nuke mages. 3 heal 2 drain usually keeps you alive for another couple seconds, usually long enough to kill a debuff or dmg bear.

I just feel that today's combat doesn't fair well off 1 heal as it isn't very good when dealing with teamers + just isn't/wasn't enough sustainability when I do 25/27 mage

I disagree. Paired with ms + some M/s regenerating gears, mana shield is enough to put your weight on. However this build isn't really for much besides nuke rushing (which is quite fun imo). If you'd like a build that carries you, I recommend having at least 4 heal, 3 would take a bit more skill to work with unless you've mastered using the skill Drain.