So mad I can't see straight

[Tiliana]

Is it right for a group of 56 players to join a game I hosted ( joined uninvited mind you) leave me as I am doing a quest on that level to kill the boss without me? I told them all they were being rude to run onto the boss without running with me and no one answered me back. They went on to try to kill the boss. I was so mad that I booted each and everyone of them with the reason of "rude". One of them even had the gall to ask me how that was rude. Another saw me in a town right after that and told everyone I should be banned because I booted them at the boss. I wasn't even there with them at the boss. I didn't even get half the xp of the level I created for myself because they plowed through without me. Ooooohhhhh I am sooo mad. I want them to be banned! Who does that? It was MY game. I didn't ask anyone to help me, but I wasn't going to boot people who join and want to play in a friendly manner. It was when they were unfriendly that I booted them.

I wish I felt better after venting, but I don't. This is the sort of thing that makes me want to leave this game.

[Keohike]

Let it all out, yes it was rude of them. Did you tell them when they just come in or after like when you about to kill boss. Yesterday I joined a game in BS like 1 min before they killed boss and i got pink and i was like nice, the player said it was useless and then when i joined he kicked me telling me it was full party. Lol i just joined his game and there were extra space left. So im just guessing he mad i got pink and he prob went on alot of runs and didnt get anything. In the end w.e just game, just be bigger person. lol

Keohike

[Tiliana]

I told them all that it was rude to leave the host of a game they were not invited to kill the boss without said host. They had not gotten to the boss yet. When no one answered and I saw the words that the goblin king has appeared ( I was still at the entrance of the dungeon trying to finish my quest) I booted them all. I was left with nothing left to kill on the map I hosted. I was doing a quest and leveling myself. They had no right to clear the board without me. I booted them right as they arrived at the boss since no one had the decency to answer me back. I didn't even try tomkill the boss alone. My 52 Mage can't, but they would have killed him before I got there anyway. I was about to be left with no mobs and no boss on am level I had just started for myself. I was in no way out of line with them. I gave them a chance to explain themselves or at least wait or apologize, but nothing.

[Keohike]

Hmmm well stuff happens, i am on for little while Keohike, i am lvl 55 mage, I am NOT pro, add me if you want i help you finish your quest if you want. When i get booted i really dont care anymore, cuz when i started playing i level to 10 bymyself then from 10 -like 53 i just jump in keepers and every like 10 times i get booted 8 times hahah.

Keohike

[Pharcyde]

Tiliana, you sound like you would of been pretty angry during the rushing days. Public games were crashed, slashed, burned and pillaged by people after the "rush". There was no such thing as a party clearing the whole map, games would empty out with 95% enemies left.

[Lesrider]

Hmmm well stuff happens, i am on for little while Keohike, i am lvl 55 mage, I am NOT pro, add me if you want i help you finish your quest if you want. When i get booted i really dont care anymore, cuz when i started playing i level to 10 bymyself then from 10 -like 53 i just jump in keepers and every like 10 times i get booted 8 times hahah.

Keohike

You're like the poster child for the Anti-Powerleveling movement. Perhaps you wouldn't have been bored with the game after 2 weeks (and been more pro?) if you had played the game past lvl 10, instead of having others play for you?

[Tiliana]

Thanks, Keohike. I remember getting booted when I was lvls 45-49 from many AO3 maps, and swore I would not boot people who are where they should be. Sometimes I will let slightly lower than minimum levels stay as long as they work hard. These lvl 56 players acted like they were doing me a favor. I don't need their help. I am a very capable player and have worked my way through this game from level 1 to almost 53 without leaning on others. I just hope those rude players read this and see how they acted was wrong and will quit smearing my name as a player.

[Keohike]

You're like the poster child for the Anti-Powerleveling movement. Perhaps you wouldn't have been bored with the game after 2 weeks (and been more pro?) if you had played the game past lvl 10, instead of having others play for you?

Thats the thing i play games or do things my way, i know they might not be the way other play. But they way i see it i brought the game i play the way i see fit. As for pro i don't wish to be pro lol i am happy as a noob, but i know i dont suck that much cuz i always host BS runs and ppl always come back for rmk. As for power leveling if i play with ppl that holds me back i just leave and rmk. Then again i see the "PROS" point of view you guys dont want to do runs with noobs.

PS. IF you play with me in a run i guarantee you wouldn't mind playing with me again.

Keohike

[Lesrider]

Thats the thing i play games or do things my way, i know they might not be the way other play. But they way i see it i brought the game i play the way i see fit. As for pro i don't wish to be pro lol i am happy as a noob, but i know i dont suck that much cuz i always host BS runs and ppl always come back for rmk. As for power leveling if i play with ppl that holds me back i just leave and rmk. Then again i see the "PROS" point of view you guys dont want to do runs with noobs.

PS. IF you play with me in a run i guarantee you wouldn't mind playing with me again.

Keohike

You yourself said you were bored after 2.5 weeks of playing. That's because you skipped roughly 95% of the game.

[Keohike]

You yourself said you were bored after 2.5 weeks of playing. That's because you skipped roughly 95% of the game.

Finish like 85 percent of quest by myself, and i was only interested in the economy, but like i said before i realize it will take wayyy to much time and effort for my goals i gave up.
As for ppl on frd list well, i have quite a bit on frd list but they always asking for level or such and sometimes i just wanna do my own things lol. Thats the kind of guy i am i do things my way. But any game i play for short amount of time with intensity then i lose interest.

PS. Sorry tillana off topic again i always go off topic, i hope you not angry now hehe. Just forget it there will be rude players in game just like rl what can u do? Forget bout them

[Otukura]

IF you play with me in a run i guarantee you wouldn't mind playing with me again.



Last time I played with you, I did... pulled an entire group onto the party while we were at the entrance and busy.... T.T
Tha

[Keohike]

Last time I played with you, I did... pulled an entire group onto the party while we were at the entrance and busy.... T.T
Tha

Lol sorry then i guess you would mind playing wif me :( ok when i see ur name i just leave the room pros coming in the noob gotta make way

[Tiliana]

PS. Sorry tillana off topic again i always go off topic, i hope you not angry now hehe. Just forget it there will be rude players in game just like rl what can u do? Forget bout them

I completely understand going off topic. My husband and I are both ADD. Going off-topic is our M.O.

Funny thing...I went back online and the same thing above happened again. I asked them again to either stay wi the host or create their own map. This time I got called a nerd by a lvl 55 and then I was told I should either lock my board or invite my friends instead. I don't mind people joining my maps as long as they keep with the host that created it. Only one person came back to where I was insteadvof leaving...a lvl 50 who had never been to that map. We finished it to the boss and I told him how to kill the boss. We didn't have enough strength to kill the boss even when potted. We are both mages so our dps was not high enough. He invited a friend (53 archer) and a 48 Dex Mage joined. The 53 archer said that this party couldn't beat the boss so he left. Well...I potted again, the lvl 50 potted and the three of us easily demolished the boss. I knew we had enough with that third person, but are peoples skills so bad that they don't even stand up for a challenge?

2 things I ask: People need to learn manners and people need to learn how to face challenges. Perseverance and Politeness.

[Tempest]

Raging is funny.

[Necrobane]

Lol, it sucks and I get it all the time. I make my own game, invite people from my friends list and once everyone is there I say "Doing the Bankjob, If you don't wanna leave and I'll replace you." No-one says anything so I assume they're ok with what I'm implying. We go straight past the Vault.....I'm the tank, I turn the corner and they just keep going...I put it down to xp grinding overload. Serious disease that leaves you as brain dead as a zombie.

[Tiliana]

Raging is funny.

Venting..not raging. Raging would have curse words and be belligerent. I do not curse nor do I act belligerent.
Why do you find it so funny?

[Tiliana]

Lol, it sucks and I get it all the time. I make my own game, invite people from my friends list and once everyone is there I say "Doing the Bankjob, If you don't wanna leave and I'll replace you." No-one says anything so I assume they're ok with what I'm implying. We go straight past the Vault.....I'm the tank, I turn the corner and they just keep going...I put it down to xp grinding overload. Serious disease that leaves you as brain dead as a zombie.

I agree. Thanks for the understanding. As a general rule, I have always tried to respect the host's wishes. If I want to do my own thing, I create my own instance.

[Necrobane]

He's right in a way though, the only way you get what you ask for is by making friends and inviting them. Shame though, it really doesn't hurt to help....seeing as I play my bear now, I can simply rush to the daily, and inv people into the actual instance. If ya need help for quests add my bear: Persistant :)

[PvP]

And now you have discovered the power of the boot button. You can see in this case how its a privelage, because back 'in the day' (if I may even apply that term to this game) we didn't have a boot button.

[JaytB]

@Tiliana

Feel free to add my 3 chars (see signature).

My gf and me both play PL quite often. We hate booting people and rarely/if ever boot anyone regardless of lvl (except for a lvl 5 in the shadow caves or so -.- And even then we would probably leave the room before booting). We also communicate during play and stick with the host or leave.

We often do are busy though, or away from the device so we won't be able to help each and every time ;)

[Corpser]

Thats the thing i play games or do things my way, i know they might not be the way other play. But they way i see it i brought the game i play the way i see fit. As for pro i don't wish to be pro lol i am happy as a noob, but i know i dont suck that much cuz i always host BS runs and ppl always come back for rmk. As for power leveling if i play with ppl that holds me back i just leave and rmk. Then again i see the "PROS" point of view you guys dont want to do runs with noobs.

PS. IF you play with me in a run i guarantee you wouldn't mind playing with me again.

Keohike

its true you wont regret it lol

[Kalielle]

You were totally right to boot. Even when I'm farming, I'd do the quest/clear the map if a party member happens to need it. And certainly since you were host they should have obeyed you.


Tiliana, you sound like you would of been pretty angry during the rushing days. Public games were crashed, slashed, burned and pillaged by people after the "rush". There was no such thing as a party clearing the whole map, games would empty out with 95% enemies left.

I was a big rusher during the days, and we always did it in hosted instances, not public/quest maps. And everybody knew ahead of time it was a rush, so people who didn't want to do it could leave.

Just saying, if you think one should obey the host or leave when she says "clear", same applies to when she says "rush".

[davidis57]

My question is why would you want to hunt solo anyway if you was just after xp. If your questing thats different. You get an xp bonus in a full party. Sewers give crappy xp to begin with. I sure would not want to solo it. You were the host it was your game but I dont understand your reasons for wanting to do it solo.

[Lesrider]

My question is why would you want to hunt solo anyway if you was just after xp. If your questing thats different. You get an xp bonus in a full party. Sewers give crappy xp to begin with. I sure would not want to solo it. You were the host it was your game but I dont understand your reasons for wanting to do it solo.

You misunderstood. She didn't want to solo -- she just wanted the rest of the group to stay with her and not rush ahead to the boss without her.

[Keohike]

I completely understand going off topic. My husband and I are both ADD. Going off-topic is our M.O.

Funny thing...I went back online and the same thing above happened again. I asked them again to either stay wi the host or create their own map. This time I got called a nerd by a lvl 55 and then I was told I should either lock my board or invite my friends instead. I don't mind people joining my maps as long as they keep with the host that created it. Only one person came back to where I was insteadvof leaving...a lvl 50 who had never been to that map. We finished it to the boss and I told him how to kill the boss. We didn't have enough strength to kill the boss even when potted. We are both mages so our dps was not high enough. He invited a friend (53 archer) and a 48 Dex Mage joined. The 53 archer said that this party couldn't beat the boss so he left. Well...I potted again, the lvl 50 potted and the three of us easily demolished the boss. I knew we had enough with that third person, but are peoples skills so bad that they don't even stand up for a challenge?

2 things I ask: People need to learn manners and people need to learn how to face challenges. Perseverance and Politeness.

Ok tillana add me and i will kill every last monster in the map, lol Calm breath in and out in and out. Maybe get paper bag, heard it helps.

PS. How far are u in BS quest, if you plan on finishing all of it, maybe we can q together cuz my goal now is to finish all q.

[kuroi]

"cuz when i started playing i level to 10 bymyself then from 10 -like 53 i just jump in keepers"

Keohike

lol?......

[kobebean]

Hey....tough luck there. But don't quit your day job :)

[Keohike]

lol?......

LOl ya im King of NOOBS

[Inching]

Tiliana, you sound like you would of been pretty angry during the rushing days. Public games were crashed, slashed, burned and pillaged by people after the "rush". There was no such thing as a party clearing the whole map, games would empty out with 95% enemies left.

ahhh those days were fun..... join game.... run like he!! and if u died then basically u just leave the game because no one can or would go back to rez you as there are like 100 mobs running after the group....

it took real skill as a mage to survive back in those days.. believe it or not, that wass really good training for a mage... i learned now not to get argo while running ahead with another player, when to attack without getting agro, how to run first in a rush and at cornors wait there for the party to run past me making sure everyone lived while NOT getting agro (and the mob runs past me chasing agro'ed player) and lastly, how to survive in a game with only myself as a mage regardless of situation...

seriously was good training but was cr@p for other players whowanted to finish the map.... I dont mind finishing the map but in those days we didnt have a choice, it was follow the rush or get left behind.

Now we see mindless maynas gen guy who have no clue except run in and slash and expect rez... sigh

I would love to call out, "i dont have that skill learned yet" but a lvl 55 full on MM Set.... dont think anyone would believe that... doh

[Kalielle]

it took real skill as a mage to survive back in those days.. believe it or not, that wass really good training for a mage...

So true. People used to claim you learn nothing from rushing... Well now that it's gone and many players have never experienced it, I've seen bears who have no idea how to survive while, say, rounding up the mobs in the first circle of Stronghold - as if they've never heard of spamming health pots, timing your buffs when needed, or using stomp and roar when you get stuck.

Did some Stronghold runs on my bear today and some people thought it was amazing that I managed to survive. It really isn't. I remember what it was like to rush unpotted the Tpaxx map on a dex mage before the rebalance, or map 5 on a bear in AO2. Now that was not easy, and required a team that worked together and where every single member knew what she was doing.

[Inching]

So true. People used to claim you learn nothing from rushing... Well now that it's gone and many players have never experienced it, I've seen bears who have no idea how to survive while, say, rounding up the mobs in the first circle of Stronghold - as if they've never heard of spamming health pots, timing your buffs when needed, or using stomp and roar when you get stuck.

Did some Stronghold runs on my bear today and some people thought it was amazing that I managed to survive. It really isn't. I remember what it was like to rush unpotted the Tpaxx map on a dex mage before the rebalance, or map 5 on a bear in AO2. Now that was not easy, and required a team that worked together and where every single member knew what she was doing.

indeed....

map 5 AO2 was fun... that run was long man... basically u die and ur done.. was everyone for themselves.. if u die in front of a mage then u might get rez'ed if they press the spell running past u but other then that... ur toast if u die...

I wish these new guys could have a taste of it... would make this game more fun... oh well

[Kalielle]

map 5 AO2 was fun... that run was long man... basically u die and ur done.. was everyone for themselves..

Not so in some of the better groups I've been. I remember rushing it as paladin with 4 excellent bears with me... I was always looking both ways and watching the minimap to see where they all were and how they were doing, anticipating who might get stuck next, and staying with anyone who was stuck and healing them and doing things to share the aggro until they got freed again.

That was one of the best things a rush taught me - how not to just run in a panic and instead always look to see who might need help. When I first started doing it I would just run for dear life, hehe... Then one day I got stuck and I thought, oh I'm dead - and Xom who was way ahead of me somehow noticed right away, like he had eyes in the back of his head I swear, and turned around and came back to get me out... My jaw dropped. And if you've been through a rush you know why and how risky it was to go back for your teammates. Turns out he used to do it all the time, so then I thought I should learn to do this too - and I did. :o


I wish these new guys could have a taste of it... would make this game more fun... oh well

Me too - can you tell I miss it? Although I do like the clearing games too - they can be challenging in a different way, like making you round up all the mobs in a sparsely populated map. I just wish we could have a bit of both - maps for clearing and maps for rushing.

[Inching]

Not so in some of the better groups I've been. I remember rushing it as paladin with 4 excellent bears with me... I was always looking both ways and watching the minimap to see where they all were and how they were doing, anticipating who might get stuck next, and staying with anyone who was stuck and healing them and doing things to share the aggro until they got freed again.

That was one of the best things a rush taught me - how not to just run in a panic and instead always look to see who might need help. When I first started doing it I would just run for dear life, hehe... Then one day I got stuck and I thought, oh I'm dead - and Xom who was way ahead of me somehow noticed right away, like he had eyes in the back of his head I swear, and turned around and came back to get me out... My jaw dropped. And if you've been through a rush you know why and how risky it was to go back for your teammates. Turns out he used to do it all the time, so then I thought I should learn to do this too - and I did. :o



Me too - can you tell I miss it? Although I do like the clearing games too - they can be challenging in a different way, like making you round up all the mobs in a sparsely populated map. I just wish we could have a bit of both - maps for clearing and maps for rushing.

I agree...

learning to look at the minimap and team member's health and status was the greatest take-a-way...

these new noobs now dont evern know when team members die ... lame

in games with oldies, i have the revive button on my screen before my cold hard body hits the floor... such a big difference..

[Otukura]

Talking about rushing, has there even been a map for a campaign introduced later, after the campaign has been released? I'm wondering if something like VL/Sand Storm/PP/Boss Brawl, you get the idea, will be introduced.

[Lesrider]

Rushing before the nerf is what got me so addicted to PL that I was playing practically nonstop. After the nerf, it just wasn't the same. Once you got skilled at rushing and found a good rushing team, it really was a "rush!"

[davidis57]

no she opened the room alone the other 56 lvl came on their own. If she didn't intend on soloing she would have invited other players. read her 1st post again.

[Tiliana]

To clarify, my friends online were all in full groups and i dont spam invites to friends that I see are in other maps. I host my own maps instead of searching to join other random games. I never mind if random people join my games as long as they are polite and respectful when they join my game. In fact, I have made many friends this way. When I was a LVL 50, I was one of the few people who didn't boot those who were 43+. These people were really nice and are now high levels. I don't care if I play alone or with others. I do care about people hijacking my board and not respecting my wishes. If they want to hammer through to the boss, they can host their own instance.

[Necrobane]

Rushing was fun, but I love the way the game allows non pros to complete the same dungeons, simply slower. It is not very often that you find a group that isn't able to complete a level. Actually in all the pugs ive done, if everyones the right level we've ALWAYS got through it. Rushing simply makes the game unfair for those who PUG, as they will never loot half as much as those who rush.

[Inching]

what kept this exciting was the fact u know if u die then ur OUT~!!! u wont make it to the boss, u will not take part in boss killing and u will get no drops...

gets the blood flowing and just plain exciting...

now its repetitive and its a race to hit lvl cap... whooo hoooo ..... not

[Lesrider]

Rushing was fun, but I love the way the game allows non pros to complete the same dungeons, simply slower. It is not very often that you find a group that isn't able to complete a level. Actually in all the pugs ive done, if everyones the right level we've ALWAYS got through it. Rushing simply makes the game unfair for those who PUG, as they will never loot half as much as those who rush.

That's what I liked about it -- it rewarded those who practiced enough to get skilled enough to rush.
Actually, ao3 forced me to learn to play my bear properly. I had to respec bc I didn't even have any points in taunt and like 1 in beckon. But the more I played with others and we got to learn each other's strengths and weaknesses, we all improved and got really good at rushing. Then they nerfed it all to hell.

[Lesrider]

what kept this exciting was the fact u know if u die then ur OUT~!!! u wont make it to the boss, u will not take part in boss killing and u will get no drops...

gets the blood flowing and just plain exciting...

now its repetitive and its a race to hit lvl cap... whooo hoooo ..... not

Yes, it was fun!
And we definitely had our share of stress and frustration (much that could have been avoided if passworded games actually kept people out).
But since we mostly played with friends, if a man went down, the bears would usually go back to get them. If it was someone we didn't know and they kept dying, we'd give up on them after a couple of tries.

But yeah, the rushing days were so much more fun, even with the high death counts and other frustrations.

[Kalielle]

Rushing simply makes the game unfair for those who PUG

I used to host rush games open to random joins - as did Les and many others. In fact that's how I first got into rushing - joining with my bear in AO2 a random game that turned out to be a rush.

If you mean it rewards people with skill - duh! That's exactly the way it should be. But that's the case with current maps too; I've seen groups that take forever do get through a BS map, and actually wipe at Goldfever or Cockroach. Meanwhile an efficient group can clear a map like Catacombs in as little time as it would take to rush it (I'd like to test this once but I think it's true because we never seem to stop running while we play).